Women and wargaming

[Windigo]

Fishing is real popular around here.  In a few of the bachelor pads, there is a framed narrative that goes something like, 'Looking for woman with a boat who can cook, clean, do laundry, and skin a fish. Send pictures of the boat.'  I assume you're looking for pics of the counters ;)

LMAO, when I read the posts on geek, I thought, "hmmm, wonder if she likes fishing." Sad and true

[Crazy Girl]

I maybe a lesbian who got knocked up by a married man, but this, um no...
http://www.geekwire.com/2016/microsoft-apologizes-hiring-schoolgirl-dancers-gdc-party-calls-unequivocally-wrong/

wow.... a non jargon word I have to look up.

anathematize - to curse someone

Yeah, I know many of words not used in every day language. Every now and then I like to throw one for kicks.

indeed! -- though I knew that word. I'm guessing she got it the same place I knew it: from church.

I did go to Sunday school for 12 years and I spend most of my summers with the nuns.
There was a stint in an all girls Catholic high school. I wish our uniforms did not look like those Microsoft female dancers.

I am now both scared for and envious of B_C.  >:D

No need to feel scared, envious/jealous for B_C. He probably thinks I'm too young and dumb to be a worthy opponent.
But the truth is, we both know my IQ level is too high for him and he is one of the smartest people I know.
Which makes me sad for the rest of humanity, because most people are dumb. Happy Fools Day!

[avrotim]

Wait...Microsoft has female dancers?

[Nefaro]

Wait...Microsoft has female dancers?

The correct term would probably be "had".

[bayonetbrant]

For those of you that never head to the front page (or didn't even know we had one), here are some more thoughts

http://grogheads.com/?p=10737

[Ubercat]

Wow, great article.

With all the PC, progressive, professional victimhood nonsense going on today, I'd dismissed Sarkeesian and Quinn's claims out of hand. Reading that article showed that I may very well have jumped the gun on my assumptions. I might not immediately dive into researching the Gamersgate thing, but I also won't auto-sneer when I see their names in print.

[GJK]

Asked Tanya why she doesn't play wargames: "Because they're boring.  But it makes me happy to see you enjoying them".  That's my response.

[bayonetbrant]

Asked Tanya why she doesn't play wargames: "Because they're boring.  But it makes me happy to see you enjoying them".  That's my response.

O0

[bayonetbrant]

With all the PC, progressive, professional victimhood nonsense going on today, I'd dismissed Sarkeesian and Quinn's claims out of hand. Reading that article showed that I may very well have jumped the gun on my assumptions. I might not immediately dive into researching the Gamersgate thing, but I also won't auto-sneer when I see their names in print.

My point was that you can assume all you want, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with thinking they are professional victims (it's your opinion, so have whatever opinion you want).  But if you think that's the case, then craft a better argument in response.  You don't threaten them into submission with violence.

[TacticalWargames]

Posted an article on my facebook ppage..which grnated I didn't read but just saw the headline and the general jist seemed to be for us all to treat women equally and vice versa obviously, which I thought a fair thing to ask\say..well posting that was a mistake which I wont do again. Didn't expect the comments the post go. Had to delete it.

Some things really baffle me.

[bayonetbrant]

I would've been interested in seeing some of them

[TacticalWargames]

@bayonetbrant Well really not that much to see..just some didn't like it as it was seen  as political etc etc. As it just caused upset and could have turned into a flame war etc I decided to nip it in the bud. No one missed it. I had just read the heading and thought anything asking for equality was a good thing and so shared it.

I think forums are much better places to debate and discuss this sort of thing if it gets heated. A Facebook page geared towards game news prob isn't set up for this kind of heated discussion.

[TacticalWargames]

if you're going to have women in decision-making positions - not through quota but through their own interest in the job and their promotions based on merit - why wouldn't you want them equally represented in the professional wargaming world that purports to help them with decision-making related to their jobs?

That's how I feel.

[avrotim]

I saw that original article that fist started all this when it was first posted/reposted on Facebook.

Here's 2 degrees of separation for you:  you know me, and I have met the girl in question.  I bought a game from her when she was still at the game store where the harassment she reported happened.  The store is about 3-4 blocks for my house.

Its not a particularly inviting place.  You get the distinct impression when you walk in that if you are not a Magic player or a RPG, they really aren't interested in you.  The girl in question was a wee pixie of a thing with a grunge look going on.  She sold me the wrong game.

[mirth]

You get the distinct impression when you walk in that if you are not a Magic player or a RPG, they really aren't interested in you.

That's the impression I get from most game shops, but to be fair it's MTG that keeps most game shops afloat. That's the moneymaker and that's the primary market. Any kind of retail is a hard enough business, but running an FLGS is uber-niche.