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Re: Gen. Giap Dies
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2013, 03:31:54 PM »
For the record, I hold the record on ninjaing the same thread six times.


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Re: Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2013, 03:32:53 PM »
Hmm...I never knew we celebrated men who were directly responsible for the death for thousands of Americans. 

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Re: Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies
« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2013, 03:38:30 PM »
do I like him, no.
but I can respect the fact that the guy re-wrote the book on asymmetrical warfare.
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Re: Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies
« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2013, 03:43:16 PM »
Hmm...I never knew we celebrated men who were directly responsible for the death for thousands of Americans.

For the record, I thought my reaction was clearly not a celebration.

Hannah Montana was for Mirth.

For Giap I'd have to think of something else. Maybe Elvis Costello's Tramp the Dirt Down or something. That would be a nice irony.

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Re: Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies
« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2013, 03:47:06 PM »
It's the same thing as studying Japanese or German tactics from WWII. Study them from a technical standpoint, etc. Doesn't mean we're joining the Vietnamese Army.
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Re: Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies
« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2013, 03:49:25 PM »
^+1

I agree with Gussy on that.
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Re: Gen. Giap Dies
« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2013, 03:56:39 PM »
HA
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Re: Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies
« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2013, 03:57:12 PM »
I can respect the fact that the guy re-wrote the book on asymmetrical warfare.

The notion that his asymmetrical warfare was alone responsible for the outcome of Vietnam is to ignore major aspects of media, political, and military handicaps self imposed upon American forces that were a much more direct impact to the long term outcome of the conflict.

This is not to say that his theories are not worth study or consideration.  It is prudent to study them.  They were in many ways effective and also had shortfalls but they do give insight to the current and future implementations of asymmetrical warfare. 

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Re: Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies
« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2013, 04:02:19 PM »
It's the same thing as studying Japanese or German tactics from WWII. Study them from a technical standpoint, etc. Doesn't mean we're joining the Vietnamese Army.

No I understand Gus.  I'm just a little bit more than pissed off with the whole WW2 Memorial and Normandy Beach cemetery shutdowns and disrespect shown to those Veterans for no reason other than political theater.  Carry on Gentlemen.  My annoyance is with something else entirely.  Sorry.

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Re: Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies
« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2013, 04:10:40 PM »
No problem. I know where you're coming from.

Additionally vets in my family were never able to see one time enemies as anything but enemies...Japanese, Koreans, Vietnamese, etc.

I know that's not exactly where you're coming from but, well...it's a sensitive subject.
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Re: Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies
« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2013, 04:41:01 PM »
It pleases me that we can mix a Hannah Montana reference into a thread on General Giap.
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Re: Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies
« Reply #26 on: October 04, 2013, 05:17:26 PM »
It flowed naturally. Good job by everyone involved.
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Re: Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies
« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2013, 05:28:54 PM »
It pleases me that we can mix a Hannah Montana reference into a thread on General Giap.

And now that she's grow up we can discuss her boobs.

Frankly, she should stick to her boobs - and keep those in private. Her public performance as both a singer and a sex object are both failures.

But at least we've covered the Grogheads basics now.

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Re: Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies
« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2013, 05:53:49 PM »
In a tweet, Senator McCain described Gen Giap as "a brilliant military strategist who once told me that we were an honourable enemy".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-24402278
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Re: Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies
« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2013, 06:31:09 PM »
In a tweet, Senator McCain described Gen Giap as "a brilliant military strategist who once told me that we were an honourable enemy".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-24402278

Okay. That's something coming from McCain.
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