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Re: Ships!
« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2013, 09:53:47 PM »
Brant is sort of right- look at the wake. That flattop is making a very sharp turn and those things can go upwards of thirty knots. What would happen to your car if you were going over thirty and you suddenly spun the wheel hard to the right?

I'll buy that. The deck is clear. They're either hot dogging or practicing because that's as close to a calm sea on the open water as you could ask for.

Yeah, because dumping your air component into the ocean is generally frowned upon by the Navy Department. Whoopsie!
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Re: Ships!
« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2013, 10:54:33 PM »
that is not a calm sea.  it may look like that until you scale that chop with a 1200' carrier doing a sharp turn.
also that white line on the left is the wake of this carrier getting all Tokyo drift.
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Re: Ships!
« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2013, 09:16:59 AM »
Kitty Hawk in heavy seas.

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Re: Ships!
« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2013, 10:02:01 AM »
Good one, Mirth.
Now think of the escorting destroyers and frigates in that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_PPs2MNwLY

It was pretty common for the screen commander to call the admiral's staff and ask for a course change in heavy weather.  We would be taking green water over the bow and doing heavy rolls, while on the carrier they just thought it was a heavy rain.
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Re: Ships!
« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2013, 10:56:02 AM »
Yeah I don't imagine it would be much fun for the escorts when the carrier is taking waves over the flight deck, 60ft above the waterline.

This vid is pretty impressive too



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Re: Ships!
« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2013, 12:42:26 PM »
Yeah I don't imagine it would be much fun for the escorts when the carrier is taking waves over the flight deck, 60ft above the waterline.

This vid is pretty impressive too



That's kinda what I had in mind when I called the carrier pic Brant posted in "calm seas."

That stuff is crazy. I can't imagine being on a ship during those conditions.

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« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2013, 01:27:34 PM »
Makes me think of those poor bastards who did Atlantic convoy duty in those tiny corvettes and subchasers in WWII.
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« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2013, 04:00:20 PM »
You want to know crazy?
The brits built their destroyers and corvettes with open bridges.  Gave them the belief that visability was improved.
When the first american DDs went into Liverpool, the admiral was dismayed.  He figured with enclosed bridges the USN must be soft.
Try going through two weeks of convoy escort wwhere you stand watch on the open deck.
Oh, yes, the Canadians built their corvettes that way, too. 
“Most gods throw dice, but Fate plays chess, and you don’t find out until too late that he’s been playing with two queens all along”.  Terry Pratchett.

During filming of Airplane, Leslie Nielsen used a whoopee cushion to keep the cast off-balance. Hays said that Nielsen "played that thing like a maestro"

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Re: Ships!
« Reply #23 on: May 11, 2013, 04:16:20 PM »
You want to know crazy?
The brits built their destroyers and corvettes with open bridges.  Gave them the belief that visability was improved.
When the first american DDs went into Liverpool, the admiral was dismayed.  He figured with enclosed bridges the USN must be soft.
Try going through two weeks of convoy escort wwhere you stand watch on the open deck.
Oh, yes, the Canadians built their corvettes that way, too.

How did the calls of "Man Overboard" compare?

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Re: Ships!
« Reply #24 on: May 11, 2013, 06:04:46 PM »
You want to know crazy?
The brits built their destroyers and corvettes with open bridges.  Gave them the belief that visability was improved.
When the first american DDs went into Liverpool, the admiral was dismayed.  He figured with enclosed bridges the USN must be soft.
Try going through two weeks of convoy escort wwhere you stand watch on the open deck.
Oh, yes, the Canadians built their corvettes that way, too. 


That is crazy. Apparently using the head wasn't much fun either. From the wiki on the Flower-class corvette-

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The head (or sanitary toilet) was drained by a straight pipe to the ocean; and a reverse flow of the icy North Atlantic would cleanse the backside of those using it during rough weather.
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Re: Ships!
« Reply #25 on: May 11, 2013, 06:31:17 PM »
The US carrier Ranger (CV4) was the first american carrier designed as one, not a conversion.
She was a test bed and not ever considered a very successful design.
The pilots found life aboard her rather challenging.  Before operations, the pilots stayed in the ready rooms, waiting for information and orders.
The problem was that the ready rooms were just under the flight deck.  For this area, there was a trough used for sanitary purposes.  Seawater was pumped into the trough, it was slanted, and ran out over the water, carrying refuse.  When seas were rough, the piped water was reduced.  The "perfume" from the trough could be overwhelming.
One report noted that the fighter pilots of the ship were nearly overcome a few days before the North African landings.

Luckily, the French were unprepared.
“Most gods throw dice, but Fate plays chess, and you don’t find out until too late that he’s been playing with two queens all along”.  Terry Pratchett.

During filming of Airplane, Leslie Nielsen used a whoopee cushion to keep the cast off-balance. Hays said that Nielsen "played that thing like a maestro"

Tallulah Bankhead: "I'll come and make love to you at five o'clock. If I'm late, start without me."

"When all other trusts fail, turn to Flashman." — Abraham Lincoln.

"I have enjoyed very warm relations with my two husbands."
"With your eyes closed?"
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Re: Ships!
« Reply #26 on: May 14, 2013, 09:49:27 AM »
You want to know crazy?
The brits built their destroyers and corvettes with open bridges.  Gave them the belief that visability was improved.
When the first american DDs went into Liverpool, the admiral was dismayed.  He figured with enclosed bridges the USN must be soft.
Try going through two weeks of convoy escort wwhere you stand watch on the open deck.
Oh, yes, the Canadians built their corvettes that way, too. 


That is crazy. Apparently using the head wasn't much fun either. From the wiki on the Flower-class corvette-

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The head (or sanitary toilet) was drained by a straight pipe to the ocean; and a reverse flow of the icy North Atlantic would cleanse the backside of those using it during rough weather.

When my dad was in the RCN, he served on the HMCS Magnificent (the "Maggie") in the early 1950s.  At least some of the heads drained the same way.  He told me about getting a cold draft and the occasional spritz of some cold spray.

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Re: Ships!
« Reply #27 on: May 14, 2013, 03:52:11 PM »
Are those Hawker Sea Fury's on deck?
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« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2013, 08:58:04 AM »
Probably.  They flew Sea Furies off the Maggie.

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She was generally referred to as the Maggie. Her aircraft complement included Fairey Fireflies and Hawker Sea Furies, as well as Seafires and Avengers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMCS_Magnificent_(CVL_21)

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Re: Ships!
« Reply #29 on: September 16, 2013, 04:36:31 PM »
"45 minutes of pooping Tribbles being juggled by a drunken Horta would be better than Season 1 of TNG." - SirAndrewD

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