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Re: Tanks!
« Reply #885 on: January 12, 2015, 10:48:32 AM »
^love it
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Re: Tanks!
« Reply #887 on: January 12, 2015, 06:16:43 PM »
http://militaryhistorynow.com/2012/08/02/heavyweights-the-unused-super-tanks-of-world-war-two/

I can never quite resist sites like this, although the grog in me questions the authors German tank production numbers - no way Germany could have produced 15 000 Panthers and tigers.

I do wonder what the designers were smoking when they dreamed up the landkreuzers back then. 
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Re: Tanks!
« Reply #888 on: January 12, 2015, 06:25:58 PM »
iirc it was about 1200 tigers and around 6500-7000 panthers.
accurate numbers about panthers were effected by lots of fog.  ;)
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Re: Tanks!
« Reply #889 on: January 12, 2015, 06:26:43 PM »
You're right to question those production numbers. The Germans didn't come close to producing 15,000 Panthers & Tigers. It was around 8,500 if you count Panthers, Tiger Is and IIs.
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Re: Tanks!
« Reply #890 on: January 12, 2015, 06:27:03 PM »
iirc it was about 1200 tigers and around 6500-7000 panthers.
accurate numbers about panthers were effected by lots of fog.  ;)

Lol. Damned fog.
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Re: Tanks!
« Reply #891 on: January 12, 2015, 06:27:44 PM »
If you asked American soldiers back then, every German tank was a Tiger :P
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Re: Tanks!
« Reply #892 on: January 13, 2015, 08:26:49 AM »
I normally like David Axe's stuff quite a bit, but this one is bugging me...
https://medium.com/war-is-boring/chinas-got-a-new-mountain-tank-678ab544021c

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The ZTQ, which Beijing apparently developed in order to help defend China’s western land border, is impressive in a lot of ways—and not the least because the U.S. Army, the world’s leading ground combat force, tried and failed for years to acquire a similar vehicle.


No, the US Army didn't "fail", the chose not to pursue the XM8.  There's a big difference.
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Re: Tanks!
« Reply #893 on: January 13, 2015, 08:48:06 AM »
I wasn't too impressed by his T-34 article either
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Re: Tanks!
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Re: Tanks!
« Reply #895 on: January 13, 2015, 08:54:27 AM »
I wasn't too impressed by his T-34 article either

Axe is usually very good, especially when reporting on-site.  Some of the "analysis" articles, though, are a bit ill-informed.
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Re: Tanks!
« Reply #896 on: January 13, 2015, 08:58:50 AM »
"I will return before you can say 'antidisestablishmentarianism'."

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Re: Tanks!
« Reply #897 on: January 13, 2015, 09:08:18 AM »
I wasn't too impressed by his T-34 article either

Axe is usually very good, especially when reporting on-site.  Some of the "analysis" articles, though, are a bit ill-informed.


Ugh, some of his statements are just dumb:

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The ZTQ represents one military niche where China has actually exceeded the Pentagon’s own accomplishments.

We don’t know much about the ZTQ aside from what we can glean from the few photos, which have circulated in China’s popular Internet military forums for a few years now.

Wtf? We don't know anything about it, so how do we know it's exceeded anything?
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Re: Tanks!
« Reply #898 on: January 13, 2015, 11:25:27 AM »
http://www.somethingawful.com/news/my-tank-fight/
Lol his writing style definitely is quite distinct [emoji4]

He actually made up a dead tree book that went into greater detail/had more items:

http://www.amazon.com/My-Tank-Fight-Zack-Parsons/dp/0806527587

He sent me a copy gratis and I always intended to write an article for it - this was back at WG - but I never got around to it unfortunately. Still have the book on my shelf too.  :-[

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Re: Tanks!
« Reply #899 on: January 28, 2015, 11:42:26 AM »
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Captured German Tank Elfriede put out of action and captured by "A" Company 1st Battalion Tank Corps, 1km from Villers, Bretonneux on the Hangard en Santerre Road, during the first German tank attack - 24th April, 1918.


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