The "Uber" Command: Modern Air/Naval Ops Thread

mikeck · March 19, 2014, 10:05:13 AM

Ok, your site has 501 as the most recent but lays nights I updated from matrix and it had 500 as the most recent?

Disregard...I see on page three of the update thread they have build 501 candidate 5. I will get it tonight

Edit: thanks Baloogan, updated to 501 and that did the trick. Thanks for the scenario!!

Baloogan · March 19, 2014, 05:47:53 PM

Quote from: mikeck on March 19, 2014, 10:05:13 AM
Ok, your site has 501 as the most recent but lays nights I updated from matrix and it had 500 as the most recent?

Disregard...I see on page three of the update thread they have build 501 candidate 5. I will get it tonight

Edit: thanks Baloogan, updated to 501 and that did the trick. Thanks for the scenario!!

Good to hear it works :) and thanks to Kushan as well for letting me know you were having trouble!

Grim.Reaper · March 21, 2014, 09:12:53 PM

Looks like 1.03 patch officially released....

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3575582

Baloogan · March 22, 2014, 12:35:03 PM

This week on the Baloogan Campaign Stream I'll be playing a scenario that comes with Command: Iron Hand 2014! Stream is up right now!

Dimitris · March 26, 2014, 06:58:23 AM

Community scenario pack updated - Six new scenarios!

http://www.warfaresims.com/?p=2299

mikeck · March 26, 2014, 10:21:55 AM

I posted this over at the matrix forms. My HARM missiles are being shot down at an alarming rate by Russian SA-n-6 (s-300) missiles. I am wondering if one the missile is capable of even shooting down harms with some saying it is, but not at that success rate. In the matrix forum people keep saying that that's normal for harpoons missing the fact that it's a HARM...or telling me to post my game log which I've done twice already. so I haven't really received much except someone explain that it is possible for this to happen... I guess I'm just hoping to catch Dmitris here or get everybody on here's take on this.

Is the 75% hit rate of the S-300 against the HARM WaD or is it a bug?

" weapon (SA-n-6a Grumble is attacking AGM-88c harm #1419 with a base PH of 75%. Final PH: 75%. Die roll: 56 - Hit

3/14/2014 5:47:47 PM: Weapon (SA-N-6a Grumble [5R55RM] #1447) is attacking AGM-88C HARM #1419 with a base PH of 75%. Final PH: 75%. Die Roll: 21 - HIT

3/14/2014 5:47:46 PM: Weapon (SA-N-6a Grumble [5R55RM] #1445) is attacking AGM-88C HARM #1418 with a base PH of 75%. Final PH: 75%. Die Roll: 23 - HIT

3/14/2014 5:47:46 PM: Weapon (SA-N-6a Grumble [5R55RM] #1446) is attacking AGM-88C HARM #1418 with a base PH of 75%. Final PH: 75%. Die Roll: 40 - HIT

3/14/2014 5:47:44 PM: Contact VAMPIRE #77 has been lost.

3/14/2014 5:47:44 PM: Contact VAMPIRE #73 has been lost

3/14/2014 5:48:39 PM: Weapon (SA-10b Grumble [5V55R] #1464) is attacking AGM-88C HARM #1436 with a base PH of 75%. Final PH: 75%. Die Roll: 73 - HIT

3/14/2014 5:48:39 PM: Weapon (SA-10b Grumble [5V55R] #1465) is attacking AGM-88C HARM #1436 with a base PH of 75%. Final PH: 75%. Die Roll: 63 - HIT

3/14/2014 5:48:22 PM: Weapon (SA-N-6a Grumble [5R55RM] #1457) is attacking AGM-88C HARM #1439 with a base PH of 75%. Final PH: 75%. Die Roll: 37 - HIT

3/14/2014 5:48:22 PM: Weapon (SA-N-6a Grumble [5R55RM] #1456) is attacking AGM-88C HARM #1439 with a base PH of 75%. Final PH: 75%. Die Roll: 83 - MISS

3/14/2014 5:48:22 PM: Contact: MOBILE #80 has been type-classified as: SAM (Classification by: AN/ASQ-213 HTS R7 Pod [Sensor: AN/ASQ-213 HTS R7 [PIP]] at Estimated 122 nm)

3/14/2014 5:48:22 PM: New contact! Designated MOBILE #80 - Detected by 510th Fighter Squadron [F-16C Blk 40 Falcon] #1 [Sensors: AN/ASQ-213 HTS R7 [PIP]] at 102deg - Estimated 122NM

3/14/2014 5:48:22 PM: Contact: SAM #79 was observed attacking a friendly unit and is now considered as hostile!

3/14/2014 5:48:22 PM: Weapon (SA-N-6a Grumble [5R55RM] #1459) is attacking AGM-88C HARM #1440 with a base PH of 75%. Final PH: 75%. Die Roll: 79 - MISS

3/14/2014 5:48:22 PM: Weapon (SA-N-6a Grumble [5R55RM] #1460) is attacking AGM-88C HARM #1440 with a base PH of 75%. Final PH: 75%. Die Roll: 98 - MISS

3/14/2014 5:48:21 PM: Weapon (SA-N-6a Grumble [5R55RM] #1455) is attacking AGM-88C HARM #1438 with a base PH of 75%. Final PH: 75%. Die Roll: 26 - HIT

3/14/2014 5:48:18 PM: Weapon (SA-N-6a Grumble [5R55RM] #1453) is attacking AGM-88C HARM #1435 with a base PH of 75%. Final PH: 75%. Die Roll: 9 - HIT

3/14/2014 5:48:17 PM: Contact: MOBILE #79 has been type-classified as: SAM (Classification by: AN/ASQ-213 HTS R7 Pod [Sensor: AN/ASQ-213 HTS R7 [PIP]] at Estimated 125 nm)

3/14/2014 5:48:17 PM: New contact! Designated MOBILE #79 - Detected by 492nd Fighter Squadron [F-15E Strike Eagle] #9 [Sensors: AN/ALR-56C TEWS] at 91deg - Estimated 114NM

3/14/2014 5:48:17 PM: Weapon (SA-N-6a Grumble [5R55RM] #1452) is attacking AGM-88C HARM #1436 with a base PH of 75%. Final PH: 75%. Die Roll: 85 - MISS

3/14/2014 5:48:17 PM: Weapon (SA-N-6a Grumble [5R55RM] #1449) is attacking AGM-88C HARM #1434 with a base PH of 75%. Final PH: 75%. Die Roll: 26 - HIT

3/14/2014 5:48:17 PM: Weapon (SA-N-6a Grumble [5R55RM] #1450) is attacking AGM-88C HARM #1436 with a base PH of 75%. Final PH: 75%. Die Roll: 98 -

Dimitris · March 26, 2014, 10:23:00 AM

Yes, I'm here :)

Dimitris · March 26, 2014, 10:36:13 AM

For those who missed the discussion at the Matrix forum: http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/fb.asp?m=3579316

The original query is whether modern Russian "double-digit" SAMs are (significantly) capable against missiles like the HARM. The dev team posits that this is indeed the case, considering that both legs of the S-300 family were designed to counter (among other target types) very fast, low-signature targets like SRAMs and even tactical ballistic missiles.

The main counter-argument of those who consider this ability exaggerated is that, to our knowledge, no HARM is known to have been shot down in combat. While true, this overlooks the fact that the HARM (and any other ARM for that matter) has never been pitted against systems like the SA-10. The inability of older Russian SAM systems (SA-2/3/4/5/6 etc.) to intercept the HARM is well documented and is modelled realistically in Command.

The USAF technical evaluation & foreign exploitation services are known to have acquired some early SA-10A/B systems from IIRC Belarus in the 90s (indeed, the compromise of these early variants has been one of the chief drivers for the development of the improved versions like SA-20, SA-21/S-400 etc.). It is reasonable to assume the ability of these systems to track & engage difficult targets has been tested. If they know something we don't, they're not telling.

mikeck · March 26, 2014, 01:57:32 PM

Okay, so this is as designed. It just comes down to whether you buy the numbers or not. I'm good with that l

Dimitris · March 26, 2014, 02:09:12 PM

Needless to mention, all our data are amenable to modification if new information is provided/discovered.

mikeck · March 26, 2014, 03:20:18 PM

I appreciate your response. For some reason, people became very upset over my post in matrix. Accusing me of a false premise, editing posts indicating I'm changing reports, causing a ruckus etc.

Anyway, all I wanted was an answer...you gave it...question answered, thank you.

Hopefully you hang out here because I'm done with the matrix forum.

Skoop · March 27, 2014, 12:54:49 PM

So I took a stab at baloogan's Crimea 2014 episode 1 tiger rifle senario and man was there an intense little exchange for air superiority. Frustrating as well because some of my f-15s went all maverick and charged head long right into the wall of SAMs while trying to engage red air. My intent was to create a wall of amraams over the Black Sea and just sniper from standoff, but a couple of my planes did ignore orders and forced bad situations. Not sure if by design or just didn't have the right box checked some where that lead to the behavior but man was I screaming at those pixel pilots...break off... Break off... Now that I have full air superiority, it's cruse missile spam payback, already sank a Russian frigate which netted 600 pts to the objective score and made up for some of the air losses.

So just as 30 tomahawks are about to impact the final land objectives, I get a massive crash which kills the scenario. Tried the 20sec autosave reload 5 times and won't advance to the impact, just locks up. Oh well, I will have to finish this up later, if I wasn't juggling 4 different games I might have been mad. Oh and this was with the latest patch by the way.

Skoop · March 27, 2014, 01:06:04 PM

On another note, if my novice commander skills can inflict this kind of damage on the Russians in just the first 2 hours of hostilities, maybe someone should send Putin a copy of command, so he can see what he's in for..... A lot of dead Russians.

Dimitris · March 27, 2014, 03:11:31 PM

Hello,

Can you post the autosave file? It would help us troubleshoot the crash issue.

Baloogan · March 27, 2014, 04:34:10 PM

Quote from: Skoop on March 27, 2014, 01:06:04 PM
On another note, if my novice commander skills can inflict this kind of damage on the Russians in just the first 2 hours of hostilities, maybe someone should send Putin a copy of command, so he can see what he's in for..... A lot of dead Russians.

Thats one of the reasons why I created that scenario; to demystify the S-400 (you face 2x battalions of S-400) and quite a few S-300 sites too on Crimea. Plus you don't get any really advanced A/C like the B-2, F-22 or F-35. Right now with F/A-18, F-15 and F-16 we can damage Russia significantly.