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Offline LoganismyHERO

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Close Combat-the blood first
« on: August 09, 2019, 11:01:34 AM »
I know beta testing is coming along and there is an NDA, but is anyone here in the beta?

I ask because this looks like a game I'd like to try and with a limited budget and all....just wondering how far along you beta testers think this game has to go before release.

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Re: Close Combat-the blood first
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2019, 11:08:46 AM »
I'm a beta tester. I don't think release will be too far off. Matter of a couple of months.

http://grogheads.com/forums/index.php?topic=23527.0
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Re: Close Combat-the blood first
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2019, 11:15:49 AM »
Thank you for this info Jarhead!  :notworthy:

Love the look and scale of this game.

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Re: Close Combat-the blood first
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2019, 12:05:39 PM »

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Re: Close Combat-the blood first
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2019, 12:50:56 PM »
I'm throwing my money at the screen but nothing's happening?  Why isn't the game appearing on my SSD??   :pullhair:
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Re: Close Combat-the blood first
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2019, 03:35:43 PM »
I'd love to hear what the beta people here think of the game?

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Re: Close Combat-the blood first
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2019, 07:26:26 PM »
Does this game carry on the tradition of not allowing you to do ANYTHING while paused?

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Re: Close Combat-the blood first
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2019, 07:45:30 PM »
Does this game carry on the tradition of not allowing you to do ANYTHING while paused?

No, this video shows the player giving orders while paused:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y16Ubu7IPi4
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Re: Close Combat-the blood first
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2019, 08:25:48 PM »
That's great to see!  I'll have to start paying attention to this game.  When I bought Cross of Iron a few years ago, I was very upset that I couldn't even view status of my units while paused.

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Re: Close Combat-the blood first
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2019, 10:03:40 PM »
I watched the video and I know it's a beta he was playing but it was concerning to see that Sherman take 5+ shots at maybe 100m away and miss.

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Re: Close Combat-the blood first
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2019, 10:49:07 AM »
I watched the video and I know it's a beta he was playing but it was concerning to see that Sherman take 5+ shots at maybe 100m away and miss.

This is something we are seeing as well and are looking into :)
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Re: Close Combat-the blood first
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2019, 03:10:54 PM »
I watched the video and I know it's a beta he was playing but it was concerning to see that Sherman take 5+ shots at maybe 100m away and miss.

This is very apparent issue in Das Tactic video. Sherman M4A1 is firing at Sdkfz 251/2 from point blank range of 75 meters for couple of minutes and missing. Clear view, no obstacles. Even more strange, Sdkfz 251/2 is just sitting there waiting to be sent to hell. Either crew has nerves of steel or AI is brain dead.

See it for yourself. Shooting starts from around 24 minute of video:

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Re: Close Combat-the blood first
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2019, 08:08:20 PM »
I'm no computer programmer, but that looks like bad AI to me. Otherwise, the game does look nice and I'm sure this is an easy fix (I hope).

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Re: Close Combat-the blood first
« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2019, 01:54:53 AM »
not to gloss over the historic failings of CC ai coding but, the meat of the game is pvp.
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Re: Close Combat-the blood first
« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2019, 02:19:41 AM »
...the meat of the game is pvp.

that claim of developers and esp publisher is so 90ies

its almost 2020, semi automatic cars are on the market, toy selfie drones swirling around your head at workout activity recognizing your hand gestures as an order, privat company owned rocket boosters take off and land on the same spot to be reused, and what not  but a decent AI for Close Combat is still a whish to far?

i really hope they improved the AI as much as the graphics, a decent AI can be done see Flashpoint Campaign Red Storm for example.