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"The Rise and Fall of the Luftwaffe" or "The End of Herman"
« on: January 05, 2019, 03:53:13 PM »
Found this formerly classified US Intel report on the interrogation of Herman Goering after WWII. 

The report comes in three PDFs and can be downloaded at the US Center for Military History here: 

http://cdm16040.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/compoundobject/collection/p4013coll8/id/834/rec/1


The guys doing it, must have been having fun, here is the cover photo:



Some interesting bits:

Preamble:



The interrogator's view of Goering:



Comic relief; or the firing of a V-2



Interesting comments on Hitler jumping into the how the Me-262 should be deployed: 


"Outlined against a blue-gray October sky, the Four Horsemen rode again. In dramatic lore they are known as Famine, Pestilence, Destruction and Death. These are only aliases. Their real names are Stuhldreher, Miller, Crowley and Layden."   Grantland Rice, New York Herald Tribune, October 18th, 1924. 

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Re: "The Rise and Fall of the Luftwaffe" or "The End of Herman"
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2019, 04:08:22 PM »
Maybe ten years ago, or more, there was a very in dept biography of Goering.  Cannot recall the title or author.
In summary, it was pretty clear that Herman never really grew past having the outlook of a squadron commander.
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Re: "The Rise and Fall of the Luftwaffe" or "The End of Herman"
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2019, 04:11:14 PM »
Promptly dl'd!

Also picked up the 1984 Art of War Symposium featuring a number of surviving Southeastern Front generals talking about Soviet Offensive Operations from the Don to the Dniepr (Dec 42 - Aug 43).

http://cdm16040.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p4013coll8/id/4111/rec/1
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Re: "The Rise and Fall of the Luftwaffe" or "The End of Herman"
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2019, 10:39:41 PM »
Promptly dl'd!

Also picked up the 1984 Art of War Symposium featuring a number of surviving Southeastern Front generals talking about Soviet Offensive Operations from the Don to the Dniepr (Dec 42 - Aug 43).

http://cdm16040.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p4013coll8/id/4111/rec/1

Wow! great find!  All sorts of good stuff in the cdm library.
"Outlined against a blue-gray October sky, the Four Horsemen rode again. In dramatic lore they are known as Famine, Pestilence, Destruction and Death. These are only aliases. Their real names are Stuhldreher, Miller, Crowley and Layden."   Grantland Rice, New York Herald Tribune, October 18th, 1924. 

Notre Dame wins at Army, 13 - 7, Oct. 18, 1924

Notre Dame undefeated 1924
Coach: Knute Rockne

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Re: "The Rise and Fall of the Luftwaffe" or "The End of Herman"
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2019, 11:34:02 AM »
Maybe ten years ago, or more, there was a very in dept biography of Goering.  Cannot recall the title or author.
In summary, it was pretty clear that Herman never really grew past having the outlook of a squadron commander.

I was in a Goodwill Store near Washington DC about eight years ago, the elderly volunteer cashier saw that I was buying a used book on the Luftwaffe; she told me that she had worked directly for Goering for a while, and "did not like working for him."  Just as the conversation was getting interesting, another customer came up, and I had to leave.  I went back a few weeks later to talk with her, and was told that she had to stop working due to her health. since then I have often wondered what she had to say.
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"Outlined against a blue-gray October sky, the Four Horsemen rode again. In dramatic lore they are known as Famine, Pestilence, Destruction and Death. These are only aliases. Their real names are Stuhldreher, Miller, Crowley and Layden."   Grantland Rice, New York Herald Tribune, October 18th, 1924. 

Notre Dame wins at Army, 13 - 7, Oct. 18, 1924

Notre Dame undefeated 1924
Coach: Knute Rockne

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Re: "The Rise and Fall of the Luftwaffe" or "The End of Herman"
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2019, 12:41:14 PM »
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