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Re: RAF Eagle !
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2018, 11:45:58 AM »
… I picture an interface from 20 years ago (don't know if that's at all accurate) ...

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Re: RAF Eagle !
« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2018, 08:51:17 AM »
How is the AI?
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Re: RAF Eagle !
« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2018, 02:36:26 AM »
How is the AI?

The AI is the AI from the board game. (rules, charts, response tables, and modifiers by events….)
so i think it pretty slick, otherwise there would be complains all over at BGG about RAF Eagle board game
or i hope so...

Actually i see the PC version just a as a helper tool to tremendously speed up the process of playing
(there is a log file where you can still check all dice rolls and modifiers and what had happend in the background)   

here is an example of a one day scenario where i conducted several raids 
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-----   DAILY PREPARATION / REPAIR   -----   

Weather: Clear / Patchy. (Dice: 2)
New Time index: 0
Detection Roll: 1
Detection Roll: +2 (Radar Net 4)
Detection Roll: +2 (Radar Net 5)
Detection Roll: +2 (Radar Net 6)
Detection Roll: +1 (Weather)
Detection Roll: +5 (Raid size)
Detection Roll (Final): 13
Warning: Early / Intelligence: Poor
Warning Level: Early
Intelligence Level: Poor
Rendezvous Check Roll: 1
Rendezvous Failure: No
Added to Raid Response Pool: 3 Plane(s)
Added to Raid Response Pool: 2 Plane(s)
Added to Raid Response Pool: 2 Plane(s)
Added to Raid Response Pool: 1 Plane(s)
Added to Raid Response Pool: 1 Plane(s)
Actual Raid Pool size: 8 Plane(s)
Response Priority Roll: 6
11 Group (+1)
Airfield (+2)
Poor intelligence Major Raid (+2)
Response Priority Roll (final): 11
Squadrons to remove from pool: 4
Raid Response Tactics Charts. Squadrons that respond: 4
Hunter Attack. German Planes Attack Value: 0. British Planes Attack Value: 13. Luftwaffe Depletion Level: 0. Nr of Gruppen: 6. Dice: 5
Combat Row: C
Combat Row (Final): C
Combat result (German / British): NLN/DLA
Hunter Attack. German Planes Attack Value: 17. British Planes Attack Value: 6. Luftwaffe Depletion Level: 0. Nr of Gruppen: 3. Dice: 3
Combat Row: G
Combat Row (Final): G
Combat result (German / British): ADH/DNL
Bombing strength: 5
Bombing column: 3
Final bombing column: 3
Bombing roll: 4
Damage / VP Loss: 1
VP Loss reduction (non essential target): -1
New Time index: 1

   -----   AIRFIELD OPERATIONS   -----   

New Time index: 1
Detection Roll: 6
Detection Roll: +2 (Radar Net 5)
Detection Roll: +2 (Radar Net 6)
Detection Roll: +1 (Weather)
Detection Roll: +3 (Raid size)
Detection Roll (Final): 14
Warning: Sufficient / Intelligence: Accurate
Warning Level: Sufficient
Intelligence Level: Accurate
Rendezvous Check Roll: 6
Rendezvous Failure: No
Added to Raid Response Pool: 4 Plane(s)
Added to Raid Response Pool: 1 Plane(s)
Added to Raid Response Pool: 1 Plane(s)
Actual Raid Pool size: 4 Plane(s)
Response Priority Roll: 1
11 Group (+1)
Airfield (+2)
Accurate intelligence and >= 1 bomber in raid (+2)
Limited/Accurate intelligence and 6-8 Gruppen in raid (+1)
Response Priority Roll (final): 7
Squadrons to remove from pool: 2
Raid Response Tactics Charts. Squadrons that respond: 2
Hunter Attack. German Planes Attack Value: 0. British Planes Attack Value: 4. Luftwaffe Depletion Level: 0. Nr of Gruppen: 1. Dice: 3
Combat Row: E
Combat Row: -1 (German Altitude Advantage)
Combat Row (Final): D
Combat result (German / British): DDA/DAL
Hunter Attack. German Planes Attack Value: 5. British Planes Attack Value: 4. Luftwaffe Depletion Level: 0. Nr of Gruppen: 1. Dice: 6
Combat Row: H
Combat Row: -1 (German Altitude Advantage)
Combat Row (Final): G
Combat result (German / British): HLD/NAN
Bombing strength: 4
Bombing column: 3
Final bombing column: 3
Bombing roll: 4
Damage / VP Loss: 1
New Time index: 2

   -----   AIRFIELD OPERATIONS   -----   

New Time index: 2
Detection Roll: 6
Detection Roll: +2 (Radar Net 2)
Detection Roll: +2 (Radar Net 3)
Detection Roll: +2 (Radar Net 4)
Detection Roll: +1 (Weather)
Detection Roll: +5 (Raid size)
Detection Roll (Final): 18
Warning: Very Early / Intelligence: Limited
Warning Level: Very Early
Intelligence Level: Limited
Rendezvous Check Roll: 3
Rendezvous Failure: No
Added to Raid Response Pool: 3 Plane(s)
Added to Raid Response Pool: 2 Plane(s)
Added to Raid Response Pool: 2 Plane(s)
Added to Raid Response Pool: 1 Plane(s)
Added to Raid Response Pool: 1 Plane(s)
Actual Raid Pool size: 9 Plane(s)
Response Priority Roll: 3
11 Group (+1)
Very Early warning (+1)
Limited/Accurate intelligence and >=12 Gruppen in raid (+3)
Response Priority Roll (final): 8
Squadrons to remove from pool: 3
Raid Response Tactics Charts. Squadrons that respond: 6
Hunter Attack. German Planes Attack Value: 0. British Planes Attack Value: 0. Luftwaffe Depletion Level: 0. Nr of Gruppen: 0. Dice: 1
Bombing strength: 30
Bombing column: 11
Bombing shift: -1 (Patchy Clouds)
Final bombing column: 10
Bombing roll: 5
Damage / VP Loss: 3
Hunter Attack. German Planes Attack Value: 40. British Planes Attack Value: 21. Luftwaffe Depletion Level: 0. Nr of Gruppen: 14. Dice: 1
Combat Row: H
Combat Row (Final): H
Combat result (German / British): DHA/AND
New Time index: 5

   -----   AIRFIELD OPERATIONS   -----   

New Time index: 5
Detection Roll: 1
Detection Roll: +2 (Radar Net 1)
Detection Roll: +2 (Radar Net 2)
Detection Roll: +2 (Weather)
Detection Roll: +3 (Raid size)
Detection Roll (Final): 10
Warning: Late / Intelligence: Accurate
Warning Level: Late
Intelligence Level: Accurate
Rendezvous Check Roll: 2
Rendezvous Failure: No
Added to Raid Response Pool: 2 Plane(s)
Actual Raid Pool size: 2 Plane(s)
Response Priority Roll: 6
Accurate intelligence and >= 1 bomber in raid (+2)
Limited/Accurate intelligence and 6-8 Gruppen in raid (+1)
Response Priority Roll (final): 9
Squadrons to remove from pool: 0
Raid Response Tactics Charts. Squadrons that respond: 2
Hunter Attack. German Planes Attack Value: 0. British Planes Attack Value: 0. Luftwaffe Depletion Level: 0. Nr of Gruppen: 0. Dice: 4
Hunter Attack. German Planes Attack Value: 10. British Planes Attack Value: 8. Luftwaffe Depletion Level: 0. Nr of Gruppen: 2. Dice: 6
Combat Row: H
Combat Row (Final): H
Combat result (German / British): LHL/DDN
Bombing strength: 10
Bombing column: 6
Bombing shift: -1 (Patchy Clouds)
Final bombing column: 5
Bombing roll: 1
Damage / VP Loss: 0




   

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Re: RAF Eagle !
« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2018, 03:43:30 AM »
I picture an interface from 20 years ago (don't know if that's at all accurate) and end up passing every time.

The UI has the charm of a shareware tool from the 90ties ^-^
but the map is a 1:1 representation of the board game map, interactive, updated on the fly to give the information, can get zoomed and dragged around.
overlay are movable windows and message boxes. the chits are crisp.
its functional       

max zoomed out


max zoomed in


example: Fighter selection  (i have to pick from Luftflotte3 to protect the mayor raid on Waymouth Port, )


example: Gruppen Placement (the 4 fighter Gruppen highlighted are about to add to the Hunt box), 



example of a Result Window


the original pictures are more sharp, the free picture hosting service seems to takes its toll 


- on a side note -
on program stability
atm i am the victim of either a nasty bug with my specific system or maybe its a copyright protection scheme with the CD that is falsely kicking in.

when i start a game and while accessing a target card to place into a slot in the planning phase, sometimes a circular cursor shows up for a short time (as if the program want to read/write access a file or something) and then program just terminates. 

I have reinstalled, reinstalled from a different external CD drive, run in admin mode, and tried some compatibility settings too ...but with no luck yet)

of course i have wrote a bug report to Decision Games support, and got a response from the programer Michael Olsen himself in less the 24h, go figure!  :) 

Really nothing to complain about support here :D     

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Re: RAF Eagle !
« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2018, 08:57:04 AM »
Looks very interesting, Mike.
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Re: RAF Eagle !
« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2018, 07:00:34 PM »
That looks really interesting.  They should have Mike do some screenshots for their website, because they ones they have on there right now look like poo.
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Re: RAF Eagle !
« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2018, 03:24:14 PM »
For those interested in download versions vs physical shipment, definitely possible and I just completed the transaction.  It's maybe not the greatest process but not horrible and well worth it to get delivered as a download.  From the time I ordered it until download links given to me, was only about 1/2 day and likely largely due to timezone difference.

1)  Go to their site and place an order for the computer game you want.  You'll need to still select a shipment option, but that will be removed later.  Doesn't appear they charge your credit card right away.
2)  Immediately after ordering, send an email to service@decisiongames.com.  Within that email, let them know your order details and that you want the download version instead.
3)  The support person will process your order without the shipping charges and then provide you with a link to download.

Now whether the game is good is a different story....I more bought it to try out the process versus the game itself:)  But I am eager to give it a short and if this turns out good, might try some of their other ones.

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Re: RAF Eagle !
« Reply #22 on: December 13, 2018, 06:25:54 AM »
...here is a very good video (series) about playing RAF Eagle the boardgame.
The 1 day introductory scenario


Playing through took him about 2 hours and 10 minutes   

and for those interested in the vids you can see the AI directing the British at work
(when the chances are to bad Spitfires and Hurricanes don't come out to play and England just suck up the eventual bombing damage… the trick as The German is to compose a raid not to small and then get mauled, but tasty enuf to trigger a response, but not to overwhelming so they just fly home. I go for the radar nets first because that reduce the detection level. also ist important to compose waves -if the drawn card allow that planning- in the same  sector or near sector.
If all went well with timing, their planes are still on the ground and cant respond in numbers, the single squadron in the pool then stays away to fight another day  and Germans can actually do some good bomb damage…. well, if the event cards and dice rolls not ruin the Luftwaffe plans all to much) 

With the PC version I just played the introductory scenario in 40 minutes
… and I reeeally have taken my time on planning the raids and later had in addition read the whole logfile of the day too
I scored -8 Victory points, a German win :)

yesterday, (before learning from Ronnie Tuckers videos) I lost a game with a +8 victory points result so. 

- on a side note -
i had a very nice, fruitful email and file exchange with Michael Olsen, the programmer.  O0
me sending in crash dumps and he sending me new test-candidates.
Didn't had any CTDs anymore with the latest versions, but will test some more ...if RL don't interdict to much.
The support was outstanding.
« Last Edit: December 13, 2018, 06:29:52 AM by MikeGER »

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Re: RAF Eagle !
« Reply #23 on: December 13, 2018, 11:28:44 AM »
Ordered Lion and Eagle, and also the Tarawa invasion game.  :smitten:
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Re: RAF Eagle !
« Reply #24 on: Yesterday at 08:46:48 AM »
Ordered Lion and Eagle, and also the Tarawa invasion game.  :smitten:
I have the Tarawa game and like it, but you do have to figure out how the UI works a bit too much on your own. Also have the D-day at Omaha which I really would like to play more, but it still has bugs that makes it near impossible to win. Which is too bad, because I really like the game mechanics of that series. I wonder if they will make PC versions of Peleliu and Iwo Jima that exist as boardgames?