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Offline malize

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Re: Latin Era GROGPUBLIC game thread
« Reply #255 on: October 11, 2018, 10:12:47 AM »
The populists also cannot accept the recombination of these offices, something the people have expended their sons and fathers just lately to keep from one mans control.

I fear it is a bad precedent to make for our republic

Populist faction votes nay. 

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Re: Latin Era GROGPUBLIC game thread
« Reply #256 on: October 11, 2018, 10:22:08 AM »
I.I.'s Aristocrats next!

(I'm at work where I can't double-check the vote tallies yet, although I'm pretty sure the Conservatives have got 11 votes for, and the Progressives as previously noted would have 5 votes against due to their activist knight triggering. Populists may be 5 or 6 votes, can't recall -- one of their senators is being held captive by the barbarians from the north.)
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Re: Latin Era GROGPUBLIC game thread
« Reply #257 on: October 11, 2018, 04:24:03 PM »
The Aristocrats vote for.

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Re: Latin Era GROGPUBLIC game thread
« Reply #258 on: October 11, 2018, 04:33:00 PM »
Currently it's a pretty close vote: the Conservatives bring 11 Ora votes in favor, but the Progressives bring 3 Ora + 2 (1 knight x2 activist trigger) and the Populists bring 3 Ora +1 knight +1 Pop.

So we stand at net +1 for, with 24 potential votes pro or con remaining.

And, while I was accounting that, the Aristocrats block voted "for", adding 7 Ora + 1 knight = 8 votes!

This brings the net vote to +9 for, with 16 potential votes pro or con remaining.

It also prevents Fabius from losing 1 Influence in this vote, since not every other Faction voted against his proposal.

The Frog's Plutocrats are next. They have a total of 9 votes at stake, and will be the deciding factor if they agree 'for'. If they vote 'against', the Militarists will cast the deciding votes!
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Re: Latin Era GROGPUBLIC game thread
« Reply #259 on: October 12, 2018, 10:39:36 AM »
I believe I am next, and will vote FOR.  I think that seals it. 

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Re: Latin Era GROGPUBLIC game thread
« Reply #260 on: October 12, 2018, 11:21:26 AM »
Yep, that brings the net vote to +18, leaving over only 7 votes potentially against which wouldn't be enough to win, nor is there any benefit to the Militarists to vote now.

I resolve things out this afternoon, after work. But Fabius will gain 5 Influence, along with the responsibilities and prerogatives of being PontMax.

From this point, Fabius can appoint one senator to the priesthood per Turn.
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Re: Latin Era GROGPUBLIC game thread
« Reply #261 on: October 12, 2018, 04:05:07 PM »
Okay, I've updated the board: Fabius has the (lifetime) office of Pontifex Maximus, and punched his influence up 5 points to 13. Conservative total Influence is now 24.

AzTank can have Fabius appoint one senator per Turn to the priesthood, pretty much at will during any Senate phase. (And take a priesthood office away, one per turn I think. Update: Erax below correctly states that a priesthood can only be re-assigned, not simply taken away.)

Now that the Mandatory business is settled, Fabius can make a Proposal about raising more Legions. The PontMax (and priesthood) voting bonus does not apply to raising (or disbanding) units, by the way -- only when units and/or senators as commanders are sent to or recalled from a War.
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Re: Latin Era GROGPUBLIC game thread
« Reply #262 on: October 12, 2018, 05:15:57 PM »
It says he can 'assign or reassign one per turn', so I don't think he can remove a priesthood outright, he has to move it to someone else.

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Re: Latin Era GROGPUBLIC game thread
« Reply #263 on: October 12, 2018, 06:22:52 PM »
Ah, yep, good catch!

For those wondering, the post with the Living Rules and my Sabrerules modification flowchart attached, can be found here. Updated to October 5th. http://grogheads.com/forums/index.php?topic=22819.msg628536#msg628536
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Re: Latin Era GROGPUBLIC game thread
« Reply #264 on: October 12, 2018, 06:27:20 PM »
A question also came up concerning whether the PontMax must appoint a priest every Turn during the Senate Phase. That was true back in version 2.16 of the Living Rules, but this requirement was eliminated by the current set.

Note that the "2.16" version of the rules applies as a number to the original Avalon Hill edition. The current Living Rules are version 1.06, and apply to the Valley Games edition which is what we're using as a base. (The prologue and epilogue Eras use 2.16 of the AH rules, but anything different has been superseded by the VG rules.)
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Re: Latin Era GROGPUBLIC game thread
« Reply #265 on: October 13, 2018, 09:58:22 AM »
I will elevate the Frog's Fulvius to the Priesthood

Is there anyone among the coalition who feels we need to raise legions?  Since we are not at war, I am inclined not to raise any, but certainly will listen to a counter discussion

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Re: Latin Era GROGPUBLIC game thread
« Reply #266 on: October 13, 2018, 10:20:20 AM »
I will elevate the Frog's Fulvius to the Priesthood

Is there anyone among the coalition who feels we need to raise legions?  Since we are not at war, I am inclined not to raise any, but certainly will listen to a counter discussion

I'll make the adjustment this afternoon after work. (Overtime on Saturday today.)

The Republic has 39 talents now, and there won't be any expenses (besides raising legions) between now and next turn's revenue phase, so I suggest we raise 3 legions; we won't go bankrupt before new income rolls in. Yes, we'll need to spend 6 talents on upkeep that we'd save if we didn't raise them now, but there are circumstances (unrest and events, if I remember right) which could make legions harder or even impossible to raise next turn, and right now we have no such restrictions.

The projected budget would look something like this:

Current: 39
Three Legions: -30 = 9
Upkeep next Turn: -2 per Legion x 4 Legions = 1
Regular Republic Income: +30 = 31
Allied Enthusiasm Event resolves: +25 = 56 Talents, up from 39.

Those two Allied Enthusiasm Events y'all have rolled randomly, have been absolute windfalls!

High unrest can make legions harder to raise, including manpower shortages, which can also trigger as a random event in itself.


I think this is all the discussion about raising more Legions this Turn, between the time we settled the Consul election, and the time when I remembered there's a PontMax office needing filled now.
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Re: Latin Era GROGPUBLIC game thread
« Reply #267 on: October 13, 2018, 02:32:19 PM »
Then let's raise three.
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Re: Latin Era GROGPUBLIC game thread
« Reply #268 on: October 13, 2018, 02:33:02 PM »
Fulvius now updated with a Priest marker. Fulvius’ influence +1 to 6, Plutocrat influence total now 15.
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Re: Latin Era GROGPUBLIC game thread
« Reply #269 on: October 13, 2018, 02:33:50 PM »
Then let's raise three.

Is that a proposal calling for a vote? And if so, are you ready to provide the Faction voting order?
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