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Red Shell spyware integrated into Civ 6 code?!
« on: June 13, 2018, 06:18:03 PM »
As the title says. There is a thread about it on the Civ6 Steam forums and the 2K forums. I am on my kindle right now so I cannot provide the links. I was tolerating Civ6 on my HD hoping for an AI fix. No more. It goes into the trash and I'll never buy a 2K game again.

Edit: OK, see if this works.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/289070/discussions/0/1694923613870153288/
« Last Edit: June 13, 2018, 06:42:31 PM by solops »
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Re: Red Shell spyware integrated into Civ 6 code?!
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2018, 08:46:22 PM »
Well that sucks. Uninstalled for now. Hopefully they will remove this garbage like several other games have done once they were called out on it.
Sorry to see so many suck-ups in that Steam thread. Why people defend this sort of thing boggles my mind.

Thanks for the heads up.

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Re: Red Shell spyware integrated into Civ 6 code?!
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2018, 05:40:03 AM »
Holy crap.
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Re: Red Shell spyware integrated into Civ 6 code?!
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2018, 07:25:01 AM »
 :-\ I've been doing a little internet searching and it appears its more than just Civ VI thats infected.  One list I saw has:

Elder Scrolls Online
Civilization VI
Any game in the Total War series
Kerbal Space Program
Warhammer: Vermintide 2
Dead by Daylight
Warhammer 40k Eternal Crusade
Magic the Gathering Arena
My Time At Portia
Battlerite
AER Memories of Old
Guardians of Ember
The Onion Knights
Realm Grinder
Heroine
Anthem Zero
Krosmaga
Secret World Legends
Hunt: Showdown
Escapists 2

I just did a quick search on my PC and found RedShellSDK.dll in my Kerbal directory.  I was not too surprised since there was much noise about the new EULA with that last Kerbal DLC/update.
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Re: Red Shell spyware integrated into Civ 6 code?!
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2018, 07:39:54 AM »
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Re: Red Shell spyware integrated into Civ 6 code?!
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2018, 07:44:02 AM »
Do we have another Facebook-privacy-gate sized thing here?

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Re: Red Shell spyware integrated into Civ 6 code?!
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2018, 07:44:44 AM »
I did not find RedShellSDK.dll on my PC. I did find RedShell.dll in my TW Attila, Warhammer and Warhammer II directories. It was not in Rome 2, Shogun 2, Empire or Napoleon. Time to start some awareness over on their boards?
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Re: Red Shell spyware integrated into Civ 6 code?!
« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2018, 07:46:06 AM »
On Steve’s list I only have Total War games and just installed Elder Scrolls Online. I wonder what happens to those games if I attempt to delete Red Shell.
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Re: Red Shell spyware integrated into Civ 6 code?!
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2018, 08:04:35 AM »
I just did a quick search on my PC and found RedShellSDK.dll in my Kerbal directory. 

Confirmed.  (in KSP_Data & KSP_x64_Data - managed directory)

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Re: Red Shell spyware integrated into Civ 6 code?!
« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2018, 08:10:22 AM »
Thanks Yassy - I wonder what Creative Assembly’s response will be.
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Re: Red Shell spyware integrated into Civ 6 code?!
« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2018, 08:13:06 AM »
I started a thread over on the CA forum. It was deleted within 5 minutes. So was another thread on RedShell. I also started one the TWC forums.
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Re: Red Shell spyware integrated into Civ 6 code?!
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2018, 08:21:01 AM »
I found a response from CA in the Steam forums:

Originally posted by CA Ella:
Hey, everyone.

Just so you know: we’re not ignoring this issue – we’re just making sure we’ve got all the facts and have addressed all your questions before we post a statement.

We’re aiming to get this out ASAP, so thanks for bearing with us in the meantime.

You can also find a brief overview of how Red Shell works here: https://redshell.io/gamers
"I could have conquered Europe, all of it, but I had women in my life." - King Henry II of England
I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly. - Winston Churchill
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