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Offline Pzrjager

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[War in the East] Using historical strategies to win :)
« on: April 16, 2018, 09:00:42 AM »
I kept getting my butt kicked on the Battle for Kharkov 1942 scenario in WitE. I read up the history for the battle on how the Axis won. Two things that stuck out to me: encircling the salient southwest of the Donets and bombing the Red Army to hell with the Luftwaffe.



Proceeded to do both and succesfully encircled the bulge :). You can see the encirclement in the yellow circle for both the historical map and my in-game save. I think experiencing history like this is what computer wargames is all about.



Now to deal with the rasputista...
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Re: [War in the East] Using historical strategies to win :)
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2018, 03:43:32 PM »
Interesting! I rarely have any success when applying historical strategies to games. It usually backfires heinously.

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Re: [War in the East] Using historical strategies to win :)
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2018, 07:27:46 AM »
I sense another AAR thread soon...  :bd: :dreamer:
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Re: [War in the East] Using historical strategies to win :)
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2018, 09:52:45 AM »
Agreed.  :bd:
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Re: [War in the East] Using historical strategies to win :)
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2018, 04:25:30 PM »
Interesting! I rarely have any success when applying historical strategies to games. It usually backfires heinously.

Yeah.  I prefer the "airdropping 200,000 paratroopers into Moscow" stratagem most of the time...

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Re: [War in the East] Using historical strategies to win :)
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2018, 06:53:10 PM »
But... whatever you do in WITE, Germany loses the war.

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Re: [War in the East] Using historical strategies to win :)
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2018, 07:25:11 PM »
But... whatever you do in WITE, Germany loses the war.

I assume you mean in the full campaign, not the shorter scenarios?

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Re: [War in the East] Using historical strategies to win :)
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2018, 07:46:23 PM »
But... whatever you do in WITE, Germany loses the war.

I assume you mean in the full campaign, not the shorter scenarios?

Yup. Scoring is different.

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Re: [War in the East] Using historical strategies to win :)
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2018, 07:54:03 PM »
Interesting! I rarely have any success when applying historical strategies to games. It usually backfires heinously.

Yeah.  I prefer the "airdropping 200,000 paratroopers into Moscow" stratagem most of the time...


So, the HOI4 method then?  :D
FIRE IN THE GROGS TOO -- a four-player full team mp of GMT's Vietnam War boardgame Fire in the Lake, recreated in TTS.

The GROGPUBLIC OF ROME ongoing forum game thread

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Re: [War in the East] Using historical strategies to win :)
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2018, 07:56:25 PM »
Can you link WitE and War in the West
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Re: [War in the East] Using historical strategies to win :)
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2018, 08:12:50 PM »
Do you want the Steam links, or the direct Matrix (or Slitherine) links?
FIRE IN THE GROGS TOO -- a four-player full team mp of GMT's Vietnam War boardgame Fire in the Lake, recreated in TTS.

The GROGPUBLIC OF ROME ongoing forum game thread

Survive Harder! In the grim darkness of the bowl there is only, um, Amazons. And tentacles and midgets. Not remotely what you're thinking! ...okay, maybe a little remotely.

PanzOrc Corpz Generals -- Season One complete; Fantasy Wars AAR

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Re: [War in the East] Using historical strategies to win :)
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2018, 08:15:17 PM »
http://store.steampowered.com/app/370540/Gary_Grigsbys_War_in_the_East/

http://store.steampowered.com/app/644710/Gary_Grigsbys_War_in_the_West/


I regard those as better for the occasional patching purposes (and they go on sale a little more often).
FIRE IN THE GROGS TOO -- a four-player full team mp of GMT's Vietnam War boardgame Fire in the Lake, recreated in TTS.

The GROGPUBLIC OF ROME ongoing forum game thread

Survive Harder! In the grim darkness of the bowl there is only, um, Amazons. And tentacles and midgets. Not remotely what you're thinking! ...okay, maybe a little remotely.

PanzOrc Corpz Generals -- Season One complete; Fantasy Wars AAR

The full pdf of Cry of Justice has been posted to the Grogheads Book category here.

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Re: [War in the East] Using historical strategies to win :)
« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2018, 08:25:22 PM »
Jason, I'm asking if the 2 games can be linked together. I.e. can outcomes in one impact the other
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Re: [War in the East] Using historical strategies to win :)
« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2018, 10:17:59 PM »
@jomni I've heard of people winning WitE as the axis in the grand campaign, although I've yet to attempt it myself.

@OJsDad I recommend getting a key on Matrix or Slitherine, which will also give you a Steam key if you register your Matrix/Slitherine key.

The two games can't be linked together, but I think the devs are talking about making a game linking the two in a future game.

Even doing a full campaign in one of the games is a lot to deal with though...

I'd like to do an AAR on this if I can manage a major victory. I got really close last night with a 1.9 to 1 minor victory. Goddam rasputista  >:(...

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Re: [War in the East] Using historical strategies to win :)
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2018, 09:08:27 AM »
Jason, I'm asking if the 2 games can be linked together. I.e. can outcomes in one impact the other

Oh, got it. No.

What I've read is that GG has made WitW large enough that eventually they plan to remake WitE using the WitW engine so that a grand campaign can be played. They have no plans to link the two current games, which I think they regard as functionally impossible.
FIRE IN THE GROGS TOO -- a four-player full team mp of GMT's Vietnam War boardgame Fire in the Lake, recreated in TTS.

The GROGPUBLIC OF ROME ongoing forum game thread

Survive Harder! In the grim darkness of the bowl there is only, um, Amazons. And tentacles and midgets. Not remotely what you're thinking! ...okay, maybe a little remotely.

PanzOrc Corpz Generals -- Season One complete; Fantasy Wars AAR

The full pdf of Cry of Justice has been posted to the Grogheads Book category here.