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Re: 2017 Running Football Thread
« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2017, 04:26:20 PM »
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Re: 2017 Running Football Thread
« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2017, 05:51:05 PM »
My favorite Tom Brady stat I heard today

Tom Brady's career percentage of seasons making it to the Super Bowl:  44%
Russell Westbrook's career field goal percentage on the basketball court: 43%

It's more likely that Tom Brady is in the Super Bowl at the end of the season than Russell Westbrook hits a jumper on any given night in an NBA game.
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Re: 2017 Running Football Thread
« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2017, 06:04:52 PM »
^crazy stat
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Re: 2017 Running Football Thread
« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2017, 06:38:50 PM »
These are some incredible numbers

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/03/sports/football/tom-brady-40-new-england-patriots.html

It really couldn't be any clearer than Brady when you're talking GOAT. You can hate the Patriots, you can debate the top five or even ten QB's to ever play and have plenty of material, but only Manning has come close to Brady's single-minded focus on the game. Personally I would choose Montana first in a fantasy draft but damn....how do you argue Brady's success given how long he's been at the top? The dude has five Super Bowl rings. And will it really surprise anyone if Tom adds a sixth Super Bowl ring this year?

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Re: 2017 Running Football Thread
« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2017, 06:44:57 PM »
I'm a huge Montana fan, but it's hard to argue with Brady as GOAT. The only thing I would say for Montana is that he won every time he went to the Super Bowl, but there's really no debate anymore after last year against the Falcons.
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Re: 2017 Running Football Thread
« Reply #20 on: August 03, 2017, 06:58:19 PM »
I'm a huge Montana fan, but it's hard to argue with Brady as GOAT. The only thing I would say for Montana is that he won every time he went to the Super Bowl, but there's really no debate anymore after last year against the Falcons.

I agree completely. If I had to win one game, I would choose Montana first in a fantasy draft, but Brady is the clear GOAT. Captain America has secured his position at the top of the QB chart.
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Re: 2017 Running Football Thread
« Reply #21 on: August 03, 2017, 07:41:20 PM »
Otto Graham

Played 10 years in the NFL

Played in the title game 10 times.

(But yeah, Super Bowl era?  Tom.  All day, every day.)
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Re: 2017 Running Football Thread
« Reply #22 on: August 03, 2017, 07:56:00 PM »
Otto Graham

Played 10 years in the NFL

Played in the title game 10 times.

(But yeah, Super Bowl era?  Tom.  All day, every day.)

Yeah, uh....back when there were eight teams maybe. Honestly, I think it's really difficult to compare teams or players from such different eras....it's hardly even the same game. But no, it won't stop us, ha!  O0
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Re: 2017 Running Football Thread
« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2017, 08:29:50 PM »
It is impossible to fairly compare QB's from different eras. For example Brady has completed almost exactly twice as many passes (5244) as Graham attempted (2626). In their time both were the best there was. Brady is certainly the best in the past 40 years.
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Re: 2017 Running Football Thread
« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2017, 08:38:27 PM »
Yeah, if you want a fair comparison for today, you have to look at post-1978, when they went to a 16-game schedule and changed the pass interference rules
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Re: 2017 Running Football Thread
« Reply #25 on: August 03, 2017, 08:39:00 PM »
The flip side is, if playing back in Otto Graham's day was so easy, how come no one else went to 10 straight title games?
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Re: 2017 Running Football Thread
« Reply #26 on: August 03, 2017, 10:09:38 PM »
My mistake
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Re: 2017 Running Football Thread
« Reply #27 on: August 04, 2017, 01:23:24 PM »
Another useless stat between Brady and Graham, they have about the same TD% rate, 6.6% for Graham and 5.5% for Brady but Brady has an incredibly low 1.8% INT rate

Graham also has 1 INT for a TD and 1 fumble recovery for a TD along with a few hundred punt/kick-off return yards..
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Re: 2017 Running Football Thread
« Reply #28 on: August 04, 2017, 01:33:29 PM »
Did Graham really play both quarterback and defensive back for his first 3 seasons?! Damn that's impressive if he did.
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Re: 2017 Running Football Thread
« Reply #29 on: August 04, 2017, 01:43:16 PM »
One of my all-time favorite useless stats is that Brett Favre's first career completion was to....  himself, on a batted ball.
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