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VBS3 Comes to Grogheads
« on: April 25, 2016, 06:29:05 PM »
Get ready for some serious coverage. I'm pumped.

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Re: VBS3 Comes to Grogheads
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2016, 06:30:59 PM »
You should empty your Recycle Bin, JH.
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Re: VBS3 Comes to Grogheads
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2016, 06:36:45 PM »
What's VBS3
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Re: VBS3 Comes to Grogheads
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2016, 06:46:51 PM »
What's VBS3

It's what the grown-ups play and get to call 'work' while the rest of us are busy killing zombies or founding the Hanseatic League:  https://bisimulations.com/virtual-battlespace-3


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Re: VBS3 Comes to Grogheads
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2016, 07:39:53 PM »
There are some short, interesting videos on youtube.  I strongly suspect I won't be able to afford this nor will it run on my rig.  What the vids show is quite remarkable.

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Re: VBS3 Comes to Grogheads
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2016, 07:55:19 PM »
So how much does something like that cost?

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Re: VBS3 Comes to Grogheads
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2016, 08:01:32 PM »
So how much does something like that cost?

a 3 year contract with a few annual options, O&M markup, and scenario design support all on Uncle Sam's dime
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Re: VBS3 Comes to Grogheads
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2016, 10:22:26 PM »
Good to see the WinSP series still on the machine.   O0

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Re: VBS3 Comes to Grogheads
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2016, 11:28:10 PM »
Lucky you!

They stopped selling commercial licenses a few months back.
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Re: VBS3 Comes to Grogheads
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2016, 05:24:17 AM »
Lucky you!

They stopped selling commercial licenses a few months back.

Just as with vbs1 and vbs2, I think one of my conclusions is going to be that vbs is still not for gamers. It's not the kind of product that is meant to be used as a recreational experience. There are so many layers that are really useless to gamers and pretty much just add complexity and barriers to enjoyment from the standpoint of gameplay. It is an educational tool through and through. Approaching it from any other angle will lead to frustration and disappointment and probably a quick trip back to arma3.

I think some of our readers will enjoy seeing how professional military forces are currently using a digital gameplay format to enhance training for warfigting.
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Re: VBS3 Comes to Grogheads
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2016, 05:59:47 AM »
and let me tell you, scenario design is a BITCH!
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Re: VBS3 Comes to Grogheads
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2016, 07:18:51 AM »
a gamer will have much more fun with ARMA 3

IIRC  the main difference is
- all the equipment database-parameter and the numbers are of course different.
 (so lets say an RPG7 flies different and the impact may lead to other results then shown in ARMA)   
- you can plug-in special AI modules (for example behavior of civilans when their home get searched in a not 'cultural sensitive' way and they go apeshit for example)
- you can plug-in hardware interface-modules. (up to full blown hardware simulators) who send all their data to VBS as input
 (once saw a real life artillery piece being operated by its crew and the shell impacting in the far far distance in the landscape were show on a wall using a projector and VBS graphics) 
- shitload of automatic reporting and AARs, logs  and such are being generated... to evaluate each soldier performance   
- real 'mutliplayer'  in a fast network
- the editor is huge

in the end the experience is boaring, you drive a hours long patrol in real time! in 'real' Stan ...a vehicle in the convoy get hit by a roadside IED -finally, now all the carefully orchestrated military SOPs by all the soldiers involed in that training exercice are kicking in, including all the radio traffic, and the med evac, and everything get monitored ..and later analysed from all angels and the perfomrance of each guy rated.

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Re: VBS3 Comes to Grogheads
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2016, 10:13:00 AM »
What's VBS3

Vacation Bible School 3? ;)
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Re: VBS3 Comes to Grogheads
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2016, 11:57:18 AM »
a gamer will have much more fun with ARMA 3

IIRC  the main difference is
- all the equipment database-parameter and the numbers are of course different.
 (so lets say an RPG7 flies different and the impact may lead to other results then shown in ARMA)   
- you can plug-in special AI modules (for example behavior of civilans when their home get searched in a not 'cultural sensitive' way and they go apeshit for example)
- you can plug-in hardware interface-modules. (up to full blown hardware simulators) who send all their data to VBS as input
 (once saw a real life artillery piece being operated by its crew and the shell impacting in the far far distance in the landscape were show on a wall using a projector and VBS graphics) 
- shitload of automatic reporting and AARs, logs  and such are being generated... to evaluate each soldier performance   
- real 'mutliplayer'  in a fast network
- the editor is huge

in the end the experience is boaring, you drive a hours long patrol in real time! in 'real' Stan ...a vehicle in the convoy get hit by a roadside IED -finally, now all the carefully orchestrated military SOPs by all the soldiers involed in that training exercice are kicking in, including all the radio traffic, and the med evac, and everything get monitored ..and later analysed from all angels and the perfomrance of each guy rated.

They should add all that to arma3, just combine the 2 platforms...call it vbs in arma dlc.  Surprised they haven't added it with the "all in arma mod", but there's probably defense industry issues with that.

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Re: VBS3 Comes to Grogheads
« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2016, 12:45:40 PM »
I've had poor experiences with VBS-3 on the military side. I see no point in downloading it for commercial use.

ArmA 3 + RHS mod.