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Offline Mr. Bigglesworth

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Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
« Reply #30 on: May 16, 2015, 11:54:18 PM »
the podcast was already long enough

you do tend to ramble on :P

Ramble, ha. Everyone is paying close attention. The gulf between gaming and real world is fascinating.

Good job Cyrano, the history is very interesting. Glad you were back MD and BB.

Cat, you the man for keeping these going. These are great. In fact im going to listen to that one again.  O0
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Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
« Reply #31 on: May 17, 2015, 06:20:07 AM »
Thanks, Biggs!  You are entirely too good for the ego :)
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Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
« Reply #32 on: May 17, 2015, 09:12:38 AM »
You have to encourage good things. This is good work by good people.

Back when I used to do planning for corporations, I did a lot of research on the most advanced scheduling algorithms. One of the best I found was a description of the system used on the Hubble telescope. The problem they had was various teams would always be vieing for telescope time. Things would get booked far in advance. Needs would change and people would relinquish their time for more important work, knowing the favor would be returned in the future. The point is that the very valuable schedule would get constatly broken with holes, overlaps, all kinds of errors. They adopted a technique called simulated annealing to repair the sequence.

When I look at military plans encoutering the enemy, the same kind of repair is required. You reorganize time and vectors to reoptimize based on the current real world situation. There is a smorgasbord of techniques to use, none of which I see in consumer games.
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Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
« Reply #33 on: May 17, 2015, 09:37:26 AM »
I would think there is only so much you can do with an AI.
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Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
« Reply #34 on: May 17, 2015, 09:41:15 AM »
Especially when all processor cycles are prioritized to eye candy.
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Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
« Reply #35 on: May 17, 2015, 09:52:34 AM »
First, many thanks for your kind words, they're appreciated.

Second, I love this discussion.  One of the things Doc Sterrett and Brant have impressed on me is that few (if any?) wargames commercially available build in the planning that's so much a part of what the real military does.  Some -- notably those used in the War College at Origins -- make it easier than others because of the tools available, &c., but few seem to require it.  The reasons probably run to the marketability of such a sim to a broad audience, but it places the sort of things you describe at an even further remove from what the game can do.

I prepare and keep the calendar for the council I serve and, just this week, I was commenting on how changing circumstances -- we've an election next year -- are punching holes in my precious document.  I think we'll need some real annealing...the simulated stuff may be insufficient.

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Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
« Reply #36 on: May 17, 2015, 03:03:19 PM »
Best one they Guys.  O0

MD we have to meet up and go for beers some day.  :D You too Banzai. I've met the other two and will prolly be drinking with them in a couple of weeks... oops sorry BB.  :coolsmiley:

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Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
« Reply #37 on: May 17, 2015, 06:08:27 PM »
It is my goal, come Hell or high water, to be at Origins next year.  We'll have some fun :)
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Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
« Reply #38 on: May 19, 2015, 03:33:19 AM »
Damned kids!

Well I was twenty years ago.  :P 




Good job Cyrano, the history is very interesting. Glad you were back MD and BB.

Seconded.  I generally have the attention span of a gnat, so the fact that I was able to sit down and actually listen to pretty much the whole thing (I admittedly skipped ahead in a couple spots -- mostly when discussion turned to professional military wargaming -- but that was it) is quite the testament to you guys.  Seriously, well done! 




Cat, you the man for keeping these going. These are great. In fact im going to listen to that one again.  O0

Again, seconded.  I know that has to require a fair amount of work & effort -- more so than I can probably guess -- but it's definitely appreciated.  :) 

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Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
« Reply #39 on: May 19, 2015, 04:59:00 AM »
Thanks, guys. It's good to know you're enjoying these.

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