Trouble in Mosul

[GDS_Starfury]

I've ruminated.

still good with orbital kinetic strikes.

[LongBlade]

from my perspective its delicious irony.

http://www.funker530.com/germany-bans-all-isis-support-after-sharia-police-were-found-patrolling-german-streets/

its always cool when its the people you dont like.

time to ruminate.

In fairness, Germany has never been a bastion of freedom of intellectual thought after WWII. They tend to error on the side of the "greater good." That squishes neo-nazis from rising to power, but doesn't sit well with Americans whose First Amendment is freedom of speech (and thought).

Rumination, irony...it's all there.

[GDS_Starfury]

and here we go...

Iraq part 3

PARIS, Sept 15 (KUNA) -- French aircraft have begun carrying out reconnaissance flights over Iraq from the Al-Dhafra base in Abu Dhabi in the UAE in agreement with the Emirati authorities, French television reported.
The flights coincide with a major international conference in Paris to seek a response to the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) or Daash radicals who have been carrying out abuses in Syria and northern Iraq for several months and who claim to have set up a "Caliphate" straddling parts of those two countries.
"France's "I-Tele" television station said that Defence Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian had travelled to the UAE to be at the French airbase there from which the flights are taking place.
Defence Ministry sources confirmed that fighter aircraft had taken off from the UAE base but declined to give details.
"I-Tele" speculated that French strikes against ISIL targets could be imminent as President Francois Hollande said that "the fight against (Daash) is also ours" and he said France "would play its part" in military operations to protect Iraq against this "global threat which requires a global response."

[bayonetbrant]

don't see them flying any white flags, either...   >:D

[LongBlade]

Bring the rain.

[Gusington]

I wonder where the French have developed these new cajones...maybe its because France itself, particularly the larger cities, now contain 100s of 1000s of Muslims and they are taking their aggression out overseas instead of bombing Marseilles.

[LongBlade]

I wonder where the French have developed these new cajones...maybe its because France itself, particularly the larger cities, now contain 100s of 1000s of Muslims and they are taking their aggression out overseas instead of bombing Marseilles.

More likely it's because they were always jealous that they weren't the biggest dog in the park. Now that we've cut ours off and placed them on a mantle they appear more than happy to do some heavy lifting. Weird, but I guess that's geopolitics. Or something.

[GDS_Starfury]

all bullshit aside, the French have been pretty active for the last 30 years or so.  ever wonder why all that African bullshit went by by?

[bayonetbrant]

y'know - the French have been kicking a lot of ass for a bunch of years in some pretty thankless places like West Africa, but they got a lot of stick for not wanting to play in the Iraqi sandbox, and I'm not history hasn't at least partially vindicated them...

[Gusington]

I still think they are transfering their collective national anger. It is coming in handy, though.

[OJsDad]

Heard someone mention on CNBC this morning that Turkey seems to be absent in all of this.  They also stated that ISIS is getting a lot of recruits from Turkey. 

[LongBlade]

Heard someone mention on CNBC this morning that Turkey seems to be absent in all of this.  They also stated that ISIS is getting a lot of recruits from Turkey.

This is yet another civil war within Islam. They do this periodically - actually it's probably more often than not. The problem is that now their movement isn't constrained to horses and camels. As a result we have to be involved because they have made it their business to involve us.

The precedent for how this plays out and how to handle it are pretty clear through history. Unfortunately, it's an ugly history.

[jejo68]

Heard someone mention on CNBC this morning that Turkey seems to be absent in all of this.  They also stated that ISIS is getting a lot of recruits from Turkey.

This is yet another civil war within Islam. They do this periodically - actually it's probably more often than not. The problem is that now their movement isn't constrained to horses and camels. As a result we have to be involved because they have made it their business to involve us.

The precedent for how this plays out and how to handle it are pretty clear through history. Unfortunately, it's an ugly history.

There is only one proven way to handle extremist like these. Lets just hope we havent grown to soft yet.

[Boggit]

I wonder where the French have developed these new cajones...maybe its because France itself, particularly the larger cities, now contain 100s of 1000s of Muslims and they are taking their aggression out overseas instead of bombing Marseilles.

From what Sauron tells me France is a tinderbox of anti-muslim tension. He's expecting civil war. It's no accident that the Front National got 25% of the vote in the last election. Sauron's said that the government have played down the terrorist planning to attack the Bastille day parade - hes' the one who killed the Jews in Belgium and wanted to be extradited to France in the hope of being exonerated by their Minister of Justice - Mme Taubira, who has got a lot of flak for excusing the attacks on white French women by Maghrebians - as the French call them.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/25/belgian-police-hunt-gunman-jewish-museum-murders-brussels

http://www.france24.com/en/20140908-brussels-shooter-mehdi-nemmouche-planned-bastille-day-atrocity-paris/#./?&_suid=14110008139400020945105977330625

[LongBlade]

That's crazy, Boggit. I knew it was bad, but not that bad.