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Title: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on February 07, 2014, 08:21:37 AM
Yep, counting down for the combine, draft, etc

Let's start talking 2014 already!
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: BanzaiCat on February 07, 2014, 12:02:39 PM
F*ck Johnny Manziel.

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: bayonetbrant on February 07, 2014, 12:06:12 PM
http://nfl.si.com/2014/02/06/nfl-offseason-storylines-2014/?eref=sihp

of note to a few of you

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What will Texans do with No. 1 pick?
 
Burke: Take a quarterback.
 
Are we really going to have this debate for the next three months? The Texans have two dynamic receivers in place in Andre Johnson and DeAndre Hopkins, a top-tier running back (when he’s healthy) in Arian Foster, solid tight ends, decent line play …
 
They need a quarterback. Period.
 
Look, Case Keenum’s arrival was fun for a bit and Matt Schaub was at least adequate in the past, but if this team can find its Andrew Luck — and, granted, there might not be a QB of Luck’s talent level here — it is a playoff contender again.
 
Bringing in Jadeveon Clowney is a fun thought, especially when one considers him paired with J.J. Watt. Teams that finish 2-14, though, cannot afford luxury picks. The only other real option on the table, aside from a QB pick, would be to trade down if there’s an overwhelming offer on the table. If Houston could drop a couple spots, add a couple additional high picks and still think QB, it should entertain that possibility. Otherwise, just play it smart and get a starting quarterback.
 
Farrar: Take a quarterback — as long as you believe he’s your best bet.
 
Yes, the Texans need a quarterback. And yes, new head coach Bill O’Brien will provide a hospitable environment for that quarterback. But as much as some Texans fans would love for Teddy Bridgewater to be that first-overall pick, it’s also entirely possible the team’s brain trust sees Clowney, or Jake Matthews, or someone else as the best player available. And if that’s the case — especially if O’Brien believes he can either make do with Case Keenum or find a lesser-known prospect at some point in the draft process — the Texans will be well-served to stick with their board… no matter who’s on top.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: Martok on February 07, 2014, 12:13:38 PM
At this point, I'm almost desperate enough for the Vikes to grab Manziel. 

Almost. 

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: BanzaiCat on February 07, 2014, 12:32:57 PM
The Texans will probably get an OLB or a punter or waterboy with that first pick. You might have a shot.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: BanzaiCat on February 28, 2014, 11:42:17 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/613OdeUPG8L._SL1250_.jpg)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: Martok on February 28, 2014, 12:13:12 PM
Aye, 'tis only too true.  <sigh>

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: bayonetbrant on February 28, 2014, 06:54:55 PM
One dude you won't be getting drafted (http://www.ijreview.com/2014/02/118252-boston-college-football-star-passes-chance-play-nfl-become-navy-seal/)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: BanzaiCat on February 28, 2014, 07:21:44 PM
One dude you won't be getting drafted (http://www.ijreview.com/2014/02/118252-boston-college-football-star-passes-chance-play-nfl-become-navy-seal/)

Good on him! :D
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: Martok on March 01, 2014, 11:55:34 AM
One dude you won't be getting drafted (http://www.ijreview.com/2014/02/118252-boston-college-football-star-passes-chance-play-nfl-become-navy-seal/)

Very cool. 

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: bayonetbrant on April 29, 2014, 01:18:22 PM
Here's a kid you have to love

http://highschoolsports.nola.com/news/article/339042895041801427/classy-leonard-fournette-defers-prep-player-of-year-award-to-east-jefferson-quarterback-eugene-wells/
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: Martok on April 29, 2014, 01:35:17 PM
Very cool.  The world can always use more guys like him. 

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: Centurion40 on May 07, 2014, 07:01:57 AM
So I'm scrolling through the dial the other day, and I come across a listing for arena football.  One of the teams in the listing was the Los Angeles KISS.  So I take a look, and there's Paul Stanley in the stands and Gene Simmons in the booth.  Yep, that KISS.  They bought an arena football team.

(http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/loudwire.com/files/2013/08/9523637582_e757a066ff_c.jpg)

It was a spectacle.  They even had "cheerleaders" suspended from the rafters in cages.

(http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/bf/76/bf76168424068b417be28bf19cb3007f.jpg?itok=8R8nm0-H)

(http://cdn29.elitedaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/la-kiss-uniforms-elite-daily.jpg)

(http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/36700000/Paul-Stanley-image-paul-stanley-36739707-600-450.jpg)

(http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/blogs/LA-Kiss-Field.jpg)


Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: bayonetbrant on May 07, 2014, 07:24:58 AM
That's not 'zakly "news" since they've owned them for a while.
They* were on TV this past weekend.



* the team, not the band.  Tho I suspect Gene was on TV somewhere this past weekend.  The guy can't help it.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: Centurion40 on May 07, 2014, 07:27:55 AM
It's news to me!  Took me totally by surprise.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: Arctic Blast on May 07, 2014, 01:17:28 PM
That helmet sucks. Was it designed by a 15 year old pyromaniac?
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: Martok on May 07, 2014, 01:26:16 PM
That helmet sucks. Was it designed by a 15 year old pyromaniac?

Well this *is* arena football we're talking about, so odds are the answer is "yes". 

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: Centurion40 on May 07, 2014, 01:43:01 PM
That helmet sucks. Was it designed by a 15 year old pyromaniac?

Well this *is* arena football we're talking about, so odds are the answer is "yes".

No doubt one of Gene's or Paul's bastard kids.  ::)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: skeptical.platypus on May 09, 2014, 08:46:46 AM
Well, I just learned I wasn't drafted in the first round. I'm hurt, but not bitter.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: BanzaiCat on May 09, 2014, 11:25:27 AM
F*ck Johnny Manziel.

I repeat, f*ck Johnny Manziel.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BnKUMdaIgAE9-n9.jpg:large)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: bayonetbrant on May 09, 2014, 12:36:33 PM
hey - Houston didn't take him so what are you bitching about?
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: Steelgrave on May 09, 2014, 12:43:50 PM
It will be interesting to see who the Texans take at QB. Carr will be on the board, but there is some talk that because of how things went with Houston and his brother that neither sides are all that interested. A Ryan Mallett trade is supposedly in the works with the Patriots, so it is at least possible that Houston may not draft a QB at all. I'm good with the Clowney pick, but somebody has to throw the ball, Houston.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: BanzaiCat on May 10, 2014, 07:45:24 AM
I'm in full agreement. I couldn't watch the draft shows these last few nights as I've been in a show these last two nights - but I got the texts from the local sports station. Clowney I can understand...but then a guard, a tight end, and what, a defensive tackle? None of whom I've heard of, but that doesn't mean anything of course.

I think the Texans wanted Bridgewater and the Vikes stole him out from under their 33rd pick (might be a good pick for Minnesota, who knows). The Raiders got Carr, so that doesn't look good for his development (ha). Not sure what QBs worth a crap are left on the board right now.

Brant - f*ck Johnny Manziel. I'm just bitching in general. I've made no bones about my opinion of him as a human being. The Patriots' leaked analysis of him (http://www.brobible.com/sports/article/johnny-manziel-scouting-report-new-england-patriots/) had several interesting points that corroborate his uselessness to any NFL team:

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Vibe on this guy keeps getting worse. Support staff members are sick of him and ready for him to go. Described as a cocky, me-guy.

Loves football, FBI is high as well. Everything has been pretty well-documented in online articles about the kid, but sources say he’s a spoiled brat (grandfather gives him allowance, father bought him luxury car).

Couple of TXTC sources say can’t yell/scream at him or he shuts down; has walked away from Kingsbury in the past.

Doesn’t study the game, said to know about 60% of the offense in ’12, never watches film; one source said only time he watched film during ’12 was before ALUN.


I know the report has been called a fake, but down here in "his" neck of the woods, this stuff is pretty much circulating underneath the wild fanboi College Station BS manlove for this guy. Also, the Pats are exercising damage control, so of course they'd call it a fake report. Manziel is an arrogant jackass and Cleveland is something of poetic justice for his whiny, bratty self. I think a temper tantrum meltdown à la Ryan Leaf is but a few months away!
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: Steelgrave on May 10, 2014, 10:40:12 AM
^The guard Houston took is regarded as a "plug and play" lineman, capable of starting immediately. The tight end is said to match what O'Brien was looking for in terms of physicality (big blocker, good hands). The DT is a true nose tackle, a position key to a 3-4 defense and something Houston is short of. I think it's a good draft so far, not splashy with big names after Clowney, but clearly the Houston staff knows the kind of player they want to fit into their system. As far as QB's go, O'Brian is said to be enamored of LSU's Zack Mettenberger, so that may be a name to watch.

I honestly don't know what to think about Manziel. The Patriot's scouting report is pretty damning. I was honestly hoping the Cowboys would take him, simply because he could be the explosive, game-changing type of QB some expect if he is in the right situation. Cleveland has a lot of tools and could be a good fit, however Manziel is not a strong-armed QB and the AFC North requires someone who can toss a ball in strong winds come November. I don't know if Manziel can do that. Personally, I hope Manziel lights it up simply because he is so entertaining to watch. I dunno....I think a spectacular flameout is more likely though, especially if the Patriots report is dead on.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: Steelgrave on May 10, 2014, 11:55:33 AM
And Houston went with Tom Savage, QB from Pittsburgh, pro-style passer considered to possibly have a lot of upside with the right coach.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: OJsDad on May 10, 2014, 03:53:02 PM
Interesting.  Cincinnati took McCarron.  This is a wake up call for Dalton to etiher get his sh*t together or he'll be benched.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: BanzaiCat on May 10, 2014, 03:56:06 PM
And Houston went with Tom Savage, QB from Pittsburgh, pro-style passer considered to possibly have a lot of upside with the right coach.

Yeah, I wasn't sure what to make of that, but Savage had apparently been rising on everyone's draft boards over the last few months. He's no headliner but might be a solid backup to whomever starts this year for us.

Just saw they took a DE and a RB at 177 and 181. The DE I don't know, but Alfred Blue, the RB, had an ACL tear a couple of years ago; otherwise he's supposed to be a solid big back. Not sure it was wise to get someone with ACL issues, but whatever floats their boat.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: bayonetbrant on May 12, 2014, 12:03:43 PM
tangential to football; still funny

http://deadspin.com/malcolm-jenkins-pulled-off-a-solid-mothers-day-joke-1574712702
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: bayonetbrant on May 22, 2014, 08:24:55 AM
post-draft rankings at SI.com  http://nfl.si.com/2014/05/21/nfl-power-rankings-post-2014-nfl-draft/3/

I found this paragraph amusing:

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Not going to sit here and tell the Rams how to run their offense, but … well, handing off to Tre Mason and letting him run behind Greg Robinson worked out pretty well for Auburn last season. Handing off to Zac Stacy and letting him run behind Greg Robinson is another option. Or giving it to Tavon Austin behind Greg Robinson. I guess the main point here is that Greg Robinson can block.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: bayonetbrant on May 22, 2014, 08:25:57 AM
and hey - a videogame reference in the next paragraph!

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The Falcons’ 2013 season was like watching an 8-year-old try to win “Oregon Trail” as the farmer — you knew something would go wrong but the entertainment was in seeing what it might be. By Week 12, after the wagon had tipped over in a river and Julio Jones died of dysentery (I think that’s what happened), there was nothing left for Atlanta to do but wait for 2014. The offense will bounce back, if everyone stays healthy. How well will the defense adjust under its new 3-4 scheme?
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: MetalDog on May 22, 2014, 06:13:18 PM
That's a lot of mentions for players from the state of Alabama.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: bayonetbrant on May 27, 2014, 08:10:26 AM
This week's MMQB had a few things that made me think... 

Tom Brady quote
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“There’s nothing that can wake me up at 5 o’clock in the morning on a Thursday in May like getting ready for a day of football"
The dude is married to Gisele.  I can think of at least one thing that could wake me up at 5am on a Thursday in May that would be better than getting ready for a day of football.

solid move by the Seahawks
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There are two ways to look at what the Seattle Seahawks did when they waived their sixth-round pick, Marshall tackle Garrett Scott, on Friday. You can say they blew it with their pre-draft investigative work on him. Or you can say it correctly—no one knew about the rare heart defect Scott had, and it never affected him in his college career, and, once the team found out, the Seahawks did a noble thing.
 
Seattle doctors found the heretofore undiscovered heart defect in Scott—one that hadn’t shown up at Marshall or in the NFL’s pre-draft screenings—once he came to Seattle last week. Instead of releasing Scott because he’s not going to be able to perform this season, and maybe ever again, Seattle GM John Schneider first signed Scott to a four-year contract, with a $100,000 signing bonus.
 
“This enables him to go and see different experts,” Schneider said Saturday, “and allows us to either assist in getting him back on the playing field in 2015, or helping him transition to his post-football career. We’re just blessed that our docs dug further into the player and hopefully helped save a life.”

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: Martok on May 28, 2014, 06:27:47 AM
This week's MMQB had a few things that made me think... 

Tom Brady quote
Quote
“There’s nothing that can wake me up at 5 o’clock in the morning on a Thursday in May like getting ready for a day of football"
The dude is married to Gisele.  I can think of at least one thing that could wake me up at 5am on a Thursday in May that would be better than getting ready for a day of football.

I was gonna say, if I was married to a woman like Gisele, it would be easy to wake up at 5 a.m....just hard to actually get me out of bed.  :P 



solid move by the Seahawks
Quote
There are two ways to look at what the Seattle Seahawks did when they waived their sixth-round pick, Marshall tackle Garrett Scott, on Friday. You can say they blew it with their pre-draft investigative work on him. Or you can say it correctly—no one knew about the rare heart defect Scott had, and it never affected him in his college career, and, once the team found out, the Seahawks did a noble thing.
 
Seattle doctors found the heretofore undiscovered heart defect in Scott—one that hadn’t shown up at Marshall or in the NFL’s pre-draft screenings—once he came to Seattle last week. Instead of releasing Scott because he’s not going to be able to perform this season, and maybe ever again, Seattle GM John Schneider first signed Scott to a four-year contract, with a $100,000 signing bonus.
 
“This enables him to go and see different experts,” Schneider said Saturday, “and allows us to either assist in getting him back on the playing field in 2015, or helping him transition to his post-football career. We’re just blessed that our docs dug further into the player and hopefully helped save a life.”

Interesting; I hadn't heard about that.  I agree with that assessment, though. 

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: skeptical.platypus on May 29, 2014, 11:42:52 AM
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(http://cdn29.elitedaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/la-kiss-uniforms-elite-daily.jpg)



(http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/36700000/Paul-Stanley-image-paul-stanley-36739707-600-450.jpg)

(http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/blogs/LA-Kiss-Field.jpg)

I love what the yardage markings on an arena field suggest league management thinks about their fans.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: skeptical.platypus on May 29, 2014, 11:53:15 AM
This week's MMQB had a few things that made me think... 

Tom Brady quote
Quote
“There’s nothing that can wake me up at 5 o’clock in the morning on a Thursday in May like getting ready for a day of football"
The dude is married to Gisele.  I can think of at least one thing that could wake me up at 5am on a Thursday in May that would be better than getting ready for a day of football.


Or it's indicative of a kind of perspective/focus it requires to excel in extraordinarily competitive environments.

I'm not sure I ever want the kind of focus that precludes waking up next to the woman I love as hands down the best effin motivation to wake up any effin day.

Nor do I believe Tom Brady is stupid enough to not be aware of his football audience when talking to Peter King of MMQB. Because American football fans would never have a twitfit if a polarizing qb expressed anything other than team first, football second, and waking up next to your wife as only being acceptable because it's better than waking up next to your male longtime companion.

But I'm still a little hurt I wasn't drafted in the first round.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: Marty Ward on May 29, 2014, 11:58:23 AM
This week's MMQB had a few things that made me think... 

Tom Brady quote
Quote
“There’s nothing that can wake me up at 5 o’clock in the morning on a Thursday in May like getting ready for a day of football"
The dude is married to Gisele.  I can think of at least one thing that could wake me up at 5am on a Thursday in May that would be better than getting ready for a day of football.


Or it's indicative of a kind of perspective/focus it requires to excel in extraordinarily competitive environments.

I'm not sure I ever want the kind of focus that precludes waking up next to the woman I love as hands down the best effin motivation to wake up any effin day.

Nor do I believe Tom Brady is stupid enough to not be aware of his football audience when talking to Peter King of MMQB. Because American football fans would never have a twitfit if a polarizing qb expressed anything other than team first, football second, and waking up next to your wife as only being acceptable because it's better than waking up next to your male longtime companion.

But I'm still a little hurt I wasn't drafted in the first round.

I coulda been a first round pick if they had a draft for the least likely person to ever play pro football! :)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: skeptical.platypus on May 29, 2014, 12:00:39 PM
and hey - a videogame reference in the next paragraph!

Quote
The Falcons’ 2013 season was like watching an 8-year-old try to win “Oregon Trail” as the farmer — you knew something would go wrong but the entertainment was in seeing what it might be. By Week 12, after the wagon had tipped over in a river and Julio Jones died of dysentery (I think that’s what happened), there was nothing left for Atlanta to do but wait for 2014. The offense will bounce back, if everyone stays healthy. How well will the defense adjust under its new 3-4 scheme?

I like both Banks and King because of their willingness to talk about sports in non sports context. It's a heck of an analogy on Banks' part, too.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: skeptical.platypus on May 29, 2014, 12:03:03 PM
This week's MMQB had a few things that made me think... 

Tom Brady quote
Quote
“There’s nothing that can wake me up at 5 o’clock in the morning on a Thursday in May like getting ready for a day of football"
The dude is married to Gisele.  I can think of at least one thing that could wake me up at 5am on a Thursday in May that would be better than getting ready for a day of football.


Or it's indicative of a kind of perspective/focus it requires to excel in extraordinarily competitive environments.

I'm not sure I ever want the kind of focus that precludes waking up next to the woman I love as hands down the best effin motivation to wake up any effin day.

Nor do I believe Tom Brady is stupid enough to not be aware of his football audience when talking to Peter King of MMQB. Because American football fans would never have a twitfit if a polarizing qb expressed anything other than team first, football second, and waking up next to your wife as only being acceptable because it's better than waking up next to your male longtime companion.

But I'm still a little hurt I wasn't drafted in the first round.

I coulda been a first round pick if they had a draft for the least likely person to ever play pro football! :)

Marty, I can promise you you'd be picked lower than me. And that has nothing to do with you. I am the guy who couldn't get a yard behind Greg Robinson by simply falling forward. (And I've tried, a lot.) O0

(also, the NFLPA is prejudiced against platypus.)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: skeptical.platypus on May 29, 2014, 12:11:13 PM
I was gonna say, if I was married to a woman like Gisele, it would be easy to wake up at 5 a.m....just hard to actually get me out of bed.  :P 

If I was married to a woman like Gisele, I wouldn't limit ourselves to a bed.   :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: skeptical.platypus on May 29, 2014, 07:43:22 PM
The Seahawks visited the White House last week and gave them a 12th Platypus flag. Doug Baldwin (who got Golden Tate's money this week) wanted one thing and got it -- a white house bootie.

Meanwhile, Richard Sherman had some stuff to say.



(if for nothing else, skip to the last 20 seconds for a decent sight gag.)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: Martok on May 30, 2014, 10:40:17 AM
LOL!  "He's always doing that."  Good stuff.  ;D 




I was gonna say, if I was married to a woman like Gisele, it would be easy to wake up at 5 a.m....just hard to actually get me out of bed.  :P 

If I was married to a woman like Gisele, I wouldn't limit ourselves to a bed.   :coolsmiley:

Point.  :) 

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: bayonetbrant on June 02, 2014, 07:37:27 AM
don't f*&^ with the punter

http://miketanier.sportsonearthblog.com/a-punter-could-totally-whoop-your-butt/
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: Martok on June 02, 2014, 11:13:00 AM
don't f*&^ with the punter

http://miketanier.sportsonearthblog.com/a-punter-could-totally-whoop-your-butt/

Ha! 

Loved the quote under Steve Weatherford's photo: "Steve Weatherford crouches to summon Mjolnir, that he may smite his conniving brother and banish him from Asgard forsooth." 

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: bayonetbrant on June 06, 2014, 04:57:53 AM
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Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: MetalDog on June 06, 2014, 05:10:22 AM
Vikings fans everywhere are just wishing for the one thing that makes that even better...the words, 'Josh Freeman, your NEW starting QB!'
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: Martok on June 06, 2014, 06:46:24 AM
Sigh. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: BanzaiCat on June 09, 2014, 09:11:40 AM
HAhahahahahahahaha...

Sorry, Martok, but $2 is a rip-off...lol...

Soon, Cleveland sporting goods stores will be awash with failed Johnny Football jerseys.

And because the football gods (Fantasy Football division) tend to hate me, this means Johnny Douchebag will probably be Rookie of the Year.  >:(
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: skeptical.platypus on June 11, 2014, 06:16:18 PM
HAhahahahahahahaha...

Sorry, Martok, but $2 is a rip-off...lol...

Soon, Cleveland sporting goods stores will be awash with failed Johnny Football jerseys.

And because the football gods (Fantasy Football division) tend to hate me, this means Johnny Douchebag will probably be Rookie of the Year.  >:(

I'm surprised some enterprising 12th Person hasn't managed to snap some "Denver Broncos: Superbowl XLVIII Winners " tshirts from darkest Peru.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: Centurion40 on June 19, 2014, 01:48:24 PM
So, are we about to watch the first season of the Washington Reds?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2101279-washington-redskins-trademark-canceled-latest-details-and-reaction
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: bayonetbrant on June 20, 2014, 04:54:36 AM
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Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: Bison on August 06, 2014, 06:11:14 PM
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Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: MetalDog on August 06, 2014, 06:22:22 PM
I'd ask you where the one for Vikings is, but they've been sucking longer than the Internet, so, they couldn't make one.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: Bison on August 06, 2014, 07:59:38 PM
I don't know what your talking about...
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: Arctic Blast on August 07, 2014, 07:51:42 PM
Oh look, the Jets are in early season...midseason...late season...errr...season form.

(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b528/ElCliff76/Bueu7g1CMAA9RSz_zpsedb0a420.jpg)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: BanzaiCat on August 07, 2014, 07:59:37 PM
^ Only 42 yards to go? Their offense must be in high gear! Big things await the Jets this year! :2funny:
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: MetalDog on August 07, 2014, 08:35:14 PM
Having Jets fans around delights me to no end.  They can make you feel good about any other team in the league.  Except, maybe, the Browns.  Johnny Football is going to drive them to even lower depths of suckitude.  And I LOVE IT!!  I used to like them in the old Bernie Kosar/Ozzie Newsome days.  Then they threw up all over themselves, TWICE, to John Elway (another one I can't stand but with WAY more talent than Manziel will EVER hope to possess) and I fell off the wagon.  It's mostly because of Manziel though. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread
Post by: bayonetbrant on August 29, 2014, 07:27:33 AM
There might be people more knowledgeable than Steve Logan on college football, but there is no one I would rather listen to on the radio talking about college football than Steve Logan

http://www.wralsportsfan.com/colleges/blog/11677809/
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on August 29, 2014, 07:28:28 AM
no point having two threads, just stick all the 2014 running commentary in one place
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Marty Ward on August 29, 2014, 11:19:50 AM
no point having two threads, just stick all the 2014 running commentary in one place

Why are you mixing in the minor leagues?
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on August 29, 2014, 11:20:59 AM
Because they're a ton more fun, and they're all better than the Vikings
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on August 29, 2014, 02:21:40 PM
Well at the very least the Vikings aren't as shitty as the Bucs or Wolfpack.  :D
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on August 29, 2014, 02:53:42 PM
I'm not sure anybody is as crappy as the Wolfpack right now
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on August 29, 2014, 05:23:01 PM
I like Minnesota's OC and skill players on offense...except for the QB.  I like Tampa's Head Coach and offensive skill players...except for the QB.  And I'll be disappointed if the Bucs sign Incognito.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on August 29, 2014, 07:30:47 PM
The Vikings have for some reason taken in the most overrated piece of crap coach ever Norv "Douche" Turner.  I don't have more than 8-8 or 9-7 hopes for the Vikings this year.  And I'd put money down that Bridgewater is starting by week 8.  The defense is going through a major over hall and AP wants to go to Dallas.  Crap we might only be 4-12 this year given all of that.  Go Vikings!

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on August 29, 2014, 08:55:47 PM
The Vikings have for some reason taken in the most overrated piece of crap coach ever Norv "Douche" Turner. 

Argh, don't remind me.  I like the choice of Zimmer as head coach, but Norv as the Vikes' OC is both baffling and infuriating. 



And I'd put money down that Bridgewater is starting by week 8. 

Agreed.  Unless Cassel somehow manages to put up MVP numbers and/or is *very* efficient, Teddy will be in no later than halfway through the season. 



and AP wants to go to Dallas. 

Augh, don't say that!  Don't even think it!  The mere thought -- to say nothing of the actuality -- of any Vikings player going to the Cowboys makes me want to puke. 

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on August 30, 2014, 05:22:18 AM
Agreed.  Unless Cassel somehow manages to put up MVP numbers and/or is *very* efficient, Teddy will be in no later than halfway through the season. 

http://www.theonion.com/articles/vikings-intrigued-by-matt-cassels-ability-to-get-t,36807/
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Arctic Blast on August 30, 2014, 12:16:16 PM
Hell, sent AP to Dallas after the year. Dump that salary on Jerry Jones as Peterson turns 30 and begins a rapid decline until smashing into the wall...the rest of the league will love you for it! Anything that ruins Jerry Jones is a good thing.

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on August 30, 2014, 12:39:17 PM
Anything that ruins Jerry Jones is a good thing.

Sigh.  I can't really argue with that. 

It's just that...well, I just feel most Vikings players deserve a better fate than to finish their career as a Cowboy.  :P 

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Arctic Blast on September 01, 2014, 11:11:28 PM
Anything that ruins Jerry Jones is a good thing.

Sigh.  I can't really argue with that. 

It's just that...well, I just feel most Vikings players deserve a better fate than to finish their career as a Cowboy.  :P

Except that this idiot apparently wants it. Clearly, he's a moron. They were meant to be together.  :idiot2: ;D
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on September 04, 2014, 06:31:31 PM
Dolphins are going to the Super Bowl!!!!
















sorry, just trying to make Martok choke on his soda again.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on September 04, 2014, 06:37:15 PM
Then you should have said, "VIKINGS WIN THE SUPER BOWL!!"  You would have got a two for one with that.  Bison would need someone to pat him vigorously on the back to contain his choking fit, too.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on September 04, 2014, 06:39:26 PM
Pffft, child, please!

The Texans are going to the Su...

Ahem.

The TEXANS are goin...

Going...

The Tex...

sigh, I can't do it.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on September 04, 2014, 06:41:00 PM
How about this, "JOHNNY FOOTBALL LEADS TEXANS TO THIRD STRAIGHT SUPER BOWL TITLE!!!"
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on September 04, 2014, 06:57:11 PM
does anyone else see the tv guide say Sunday Night football?
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on September 04, 2014, 07:19:10 PM
Yes.  That's what NBC calls its football package.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on September 04, 2014, 09:48:36 PM
I watched a good portion of the game tonight.  I like Al Michaels play calling.  Chris what's his nuts is alright.  What really makes me happy is I don't recall hearing or seeing that pompous piece of shit Costas.   Costas ruins every fucking sporting event NBC insists on having him host. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Arctic Blast on September 04, 2014, 10:42:29 PM
Can't stop the run, an offensive lineman goes down with an injury...the Packers are already in midseason form.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on September 05, 2014, 02:13:52 AM
Costas ruins every fucking sporting event NBC insists on having him host.

at least he didnt go on some political rant tonight....  ::)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on September 05, 2014, 04:19:12 AM
Can't stop the run, an offensive lineman goes down with an injury...the Packers are already in midseason form.

Hope for the Vikings, yet!
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on September 05, 2014, 06:35:33 AM
There might be people more knowledgeable than Steve Logan on college football, but there is no one I would rather listen to on the radio talking about college football than Steve Logan

http://www.wralsportsfan.com/colleges/blog/11677809/

I know it's early - especially those of you not on the east coast - but Steve Logan is on the local morning show here at 7am on Friday for an hour to talk nothing but football
streaming show:  http://player.liquidcompass.net/WDNCAM
He coached under McCartney in Colorado, was the head coach at ECU for a while, including several great years.  He was Matt Ryan's OC in Boston, and worked in the NFL, also.
He has no problem straight-talking anyone about what really happens in college football.

One of the best stories he told was about a highly-recruited high school QB in North Carolina who committed to UNC, not long after Mack Brown became the head coach there.  Logan was on local radio and they asked him about losing the recruit to UNC.  Logan said something to the effect of "If he wants to feel smart, he'll go to UNC.  If he wants to play in the NFL, he'll come to ECU and let me coach him."  This was (I think) right after Jeff Blake went to the NFL, and Logan would coach multiple future NFL QBs over the years (iuncluding David Garrard).  Apparently Mack Brown wasn't real happy with an "uppity" coach from a "small" school talking smack, and wrote Logan a "sit down and shut up and stay in your place" letter.  Logan apparently ripped off a massive - and profane - screed to Brown in response, and put it, along with copies of both letters addressed to several NC newspapers, in the mail.  Fortuantely, a secretary intercepted them before they went out, and saved Logan from himself, but she shredded the letters, and Logan has said he's never been able to recapture the spirit of that letter he wrote Mack Brown, but he wished he'd kept a copy just for posterity's sake.

Just this morning he was talking about an offensive lineman back at BC that was so bad "he couldn't play dead in a cowboy movie".  They used to hold him out of drills in practice so he wouldn't accidentally injure his team-mates.  There was finally an injury in a game where they were forced to put him in, and he started every game for the rest of his time at BC b/c it just 'clicked' once he got on the field.

His candor about NCAA violations is hilarious also.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on September 05, 2014, 07:32:30 AM
Can't stop the run, an offensive lineman goes down with an injury...the Packers are already in midseason form.

Hope for the Vikings, yet!

I'd like to believe this but this year believing the Vikings are going to the Superbowl or the playoffs is right up there with believing the Washington Generals are going to beat the Harlem Globetrotters.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Marty Ward on September 05, 2014, 07:39:37 AM
Can't stop the run, an offensive lineman goes down with an injury...the Packers are already in midseason form.

Hope for the Vikings, yet!

I'd like to believe this but this year believing the Vikings are going to the Superbowl or the playoffs is right up there with believing the Washington Generals are going to beat the Harlem Globetrotters.

It could happen :)

http://washingtongeneralsfan.blogspot.com/2011/06/washington-generals-infamous-1971-win.html
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on September 05, 2014, 08:02:51 AM
Woot!  There's hope yet for the Vikings making a run to Superbowl glory!
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on September 05, 2014, 08:10:53 AM
Woot!  There's hope yet for the Vikings making a run to Superbowl glory!

also in the 1970s...
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on September 05, 2014, 08:16:28 AM
Ugh...I'm going  to petsmart now to look at fish.  If I see purple and yellow ones, I'll try and not punch out the poor cashier.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on September 05, 2014, 08:33:14 AM
Clowney's concussion causes some concern. Also causes some concern that O'Brien looked like he was denying it when the media asked him questions about it. Of course he's not going to comment on the health of his number 1 pick that's starting Sunday, but still, the kid hasn't played a full down in a game yet and now this is hanging over his head...

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on September 05, 2014, 08:38:54 AM
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on September 05, 2014, 08:55:56 AM
hell, we lost to damn near everybody last year.


except Georgia Southern
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on September 05, 2014, 08:58:18 AM
The video was pretty hilarious.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on September 05, 2014, 09:27:10 AM
so are the Viqueens.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on September 05, 2014, 09:33:20 AM
I'd go with pathetic but to each their own.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on September 07, 2014, 02:40:47 PM
Okay, I originally posted this in the wrong thread: 


Who the hell are these guys masquerading as my Minnesota Vikings??  It's been ages since they've looked this dominant (even if it is only against the Rams).  :o

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on September 07, 2014, 02:47:16 PM
The dolphins beat the patriots.  Bart opened some alternate universe bullshit withhis super collider.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on September 07, 2014, 02:59:15 PM
Okay, I originally posted this in the wrong thread: 


Who the hell are these guys masquerading as my Minnesota Vikings??  It's been ages since they've looked this dominant (even if it is only against the Rams).  :o

Then I'll post my reply to your observation in the right thread, too.


Believe me now and listen to me later, you & Bison will like Norv Turner by the end of the year.  It may not translate to record, but it'll be fun to watch.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on September 07, 2014, 03:12:38 PM
The dolphins beat the patriots.  Bart opened some alternate universe bullshit withhis super collider.

You're not kidding.  I just noticed that the Bills upset the Bears in Chicago!  WTF??!!  :o 




Believe me now and listen to me later, you & Bison will like Norv Turner by the end of the year. 

No offense to you (or Norv), but I don't think anything short of reaching the NFC Championship -- at least -- will make me change my mind about him.  I'll try to keep an open mind, though. 

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on September 07, 2014, 03:47:14 PM
Nothing soothes a loss like watching the Cowboys get pounded.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on September 07, 2014, 03:51:22 PM
Nothing soothes a loss like watching the Cowboys get pounded.

You ordered Brokeback Mountain on PPV again?
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on September 07, 2014, 03:53:28 PM
Nothing soothes a loss like watching the Cowboys get pounded.

You ordered Brokeback Mountain on PPV again?

Yes, but this time it's starring Tony Homo.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on September 07, 2014, 05:15:20 PM
Pretty funny exchange.  Especially if it's against the Cowgirls.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on September 07, 2014, 06:02:12 PM
Cowboys are already in late-season form. And that's not good if you're a Cowboy fan.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on September 07, 2014, 06:06:50 PM
Romo is really starting to make Cowboys fans wistful for the good ol' Gary Hogeboom years season games of days gone by...
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on September 07, 2014, 06:08:57 PM
I will never like Norv Turner. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on September 07, 2014, 07:40:14 PM
all I know is patriots can suck it!
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on September 07, 2014, 07:42:43 PM
Figures our #1 pick tears his friggin' meniscus. The Texans just can't get a break from the damn injuries.  >:(
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on September 07, 2014, 08:54:58 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10671267_841121052587714_1363043325481790822_n.jpg?oh=c2358ce5929078617e47d160bf518495&oe=54957AC8&__gda__=1419730708_05152e031c60fba97ee4003fdcc54ead)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on September 07, 2014, 09:01:53 PM
I need to meet another chick that sucks as much as the Cowboys.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on September 07, 2014, 09:55:33 PM
And so begins the end of all hope in Dallas...

(http://www.dallasnews.com/incoming/20140907-ns_08cowboyszj_39660467_452721.jpg.ece/BINARY/original/NS_08cowboysZJ_39660467_452721.JPG)

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on September 07, 2014, 10:09:56 PM
5 black guys beating down a helpless white guy and no presidential outrage.

were the hell is holder?!
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on September 08, 2014, 02:02:08 PM
Ray Rice released by Ravens, indefinitely suspended (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000391538/article/ray-rice-released-by-ravens-indefinitely-suspended)


Quote
The Baltimore Ravens announced the release of Ray Rice on Monday.

Shortly after, an NFL spokesperson announced that the running back has been suspended indefinitely.

A video emerged on TMZ of Rice punching his now-wife in an elevator. Rice was previously suspended two games on July 24 for violating the league's personal conduct policy for the same incident.

The Ravens supported Rice as an organization in the immediate aftermath of the incident back in March, but the release of this video changed their stance. NFL Media's Judy Battista was told the Ravens heard a "softer" version of the events included on the videotape. The NFL said Monday that they had not seen the video during their investigation.

"We requested from law enforcement any and all information about the incident, including the video from inside the elevator. That video was not made available to us and no one in our office has seen it until today," the league said in a statement released to NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport.

Since Rice's suspension, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell announced sweeping changes to the personal conduct policy concerning domestic violence cases. Violations regarding assault, battery, domestic violence or sexual assault that involve physical force "will be subject to a suspension without pay of six games for a first offense." A second offense will result in banishment from the NFL for at least one year.

Goodell expressed regret about the league's handling of Rice's suspension in a letter to NFL owners on Aug. 28.

"My disciplinary decision led the public to question our sincerity, our commitment, and whether we understood the toll that domestic violence inflicts on so many families," Goodell wrote. "I take responsibility both for the decision and for ensuring that our actions in the future properly reflect our values. I didn't get it right. Simply put, we have to do better. And we will."

Rice was entering his seventh season in Baltimore, including the last five years as a starter. He was a three-time Pro Bowl selection who signed a five-year, $40 million contract extension in July 2012. Bernard Pierce and Justin Forsett are next on the Ravens' depth chart at running back, but this decision was not about football.


In regards to that bolded/underlined part, I smell possible bullshit.  I have to wonder if the league truly hadn't already seen that video. 

Oh well.  At least Rice is finally getting a more fitting punishment -- even if it is still more about Goodell doing damage control and saving face. 




I need to meet another chick that sucks as much as the Cowboys.

*Another* one?  Dude, that implies you already have one (or more) who meets this qualification.  Save some for the rest of us!  :P 



And so begins the end of all hope in Dallas...

(http://www.dallasnews.com/incoming/20140907-ns_08cowboyszj_39660467_452721.jpg.ece/BINARY/original/NS_08cowboysZJ_39660467_452721.JPG)



A beautiful sight.  Although I'll admit I'm almost starting to feel bad for Romo.  (I always did have a soft spot in the black void that sits in place of my heart.) 




5 black guys beating down a helpless white guy and no presidential outrage.

were the hell is holder?!

Heh. 

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on September 08, 2014, 03:49:29 PM
It's a long season, but I'm thinking Cowboy fans may miss the glory days of 8-8 by the end of the year. And Jones wants credit for the 3 Super Bowl wins? What has your record been without Jimmy Johnson, Jerrah? If Cowboy fans voted on who went in the Ring of Honor, I'll tell you which JJ would be there...and which wouldn't.   >:(
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on September 08, 2014, 07:01:37 PM
Tom Landry's corpse could coach the Cowboys better.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on September 08, 2014, 08:06:12 PM
Jerry screwed the pooch from the beginning with the way he treated Tom Landry.  He promptly went 1 - 15.  We all know what happened next.  He rode Jimmy Johnson to some goodwill and squandered it slowly after JJ's departure.  I think Jerry is a GREAT owner.  He's just an abysmal GM.  And you would think someone with that much success in business would be able to recognize his limitations.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on September 08, 2014, 08:26:59 PM
I've got to turn the sound off on the SD/Ariz game.  Chris Berman is calling the game and Trent Dilfer is his analyst.  Good thing I am an old pro at watching without the sound from the days that Joe Theisman was calling games.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on September 08, 2014, 09:08:19 PM
I like Berman and Dilfer.  They are far, far from the worst game commentators.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on September 08, 2014, 09:22:31 PM
Dilfer comes on the radio a lot and I like to hear him there.  On tv, he talks too fast, trying to get everything on his mind out at one time.  And Berman has been very subdued so far tonight.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: airboy on September 08, 2014, 09:28:53 PM
Auburn is looking very good offensively.  They have 2 different offensive sets that have been unstoppable so far.  They go to Kansas State a week from Thursday for the first real road test.  Still, I would hate to be a defensive coordinator trying to prepare my team to play AU.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on September 08, 2014, 09:56:28 PM
I haven't watched them yet.  Malzahn is really good at that offense stuff.  He's the mastermind behind the National Championship.  Him and Cam Newton. ;)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on September 09, 2014, 07:33:46 AM
It's a long season, but I'm thinking Cowboy fans may miss the glory days of 8-8 by the end of the year. And Jones wants credit for the 3 Super Bowl wins? What has your record been without Jimmy Johnson, Jerrah? If Cowboy fans voted on who went in the Ring of Honor, I'll tell you which JJ would be there...and which wouldn't.   >:(

Might be worth reading this, just for some perspective.  I had no idea it was this bad between them...
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11465560/bayless-jerry-jones-jimmy-johnson-dallas-cowboys

I think Bayless is 90% buffoon on TV, but this is a pretty interesting article
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Centurion40 on September 09, 2014, 08:06:58 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10671267_841121052587714_1363043325481790822_n.jpg?oh=c2358ce5929078617e47d160bf518495&oe=54957AC8&__gda__=1419730708_05152e031c60fba97ee4003fdcc54ead)

Bwahahahahahaha!!!  :2funny:

Ahhh, <sigh> that was good.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on September 09, 2014, 09:29:09 AM
It's a long season, but I'm thinking Cowboy fans may miss the glory days of 8-8 by the end of the year. And Jones wants credit for the 3 Super Bowl wins? What has your record been without Jimmy Johnson, Jerrah? If Cowboy fans voted on who went in the Ring of Honor, I'll tell you which JJ would be there...and which wouldn't.   >:(

Might be worth reading this, just for some perspective.  I had no idea it was this bad between them...
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11465560/bayless-jerry-jones-jimmy-johnson-dallas-cowboys

I think Bayless is 90% buffoon on TV, but this is a pretty interesting article

It is an interesting article. Bayless as the source gives me instant pause, but like most things, some of what he's saying is probably correct, some not so much. The story about the toast is something I've heard before from other sources, which validates the bad blood between the two superegos. I've never heard Aikman or the other Cowboys from the Super Bowl days have anything negative to say about either Jones or Johnson. I give Jones credit as an owner for not being afraid to open his wallet and I truly believe he loves the Cowboys. If only his ego didn't demand playing the GM, but hell.....if I was the owner, I'd likely do the same thing  :P

I will say that as the owner it's Jones right to hire and fire whomever he wishes, and as owner, it's "his" Ring of Honor. It's too bad for Cowboy fans everywhere that these colossal egos couldn't co-exist and that Jones' desire to run the club has essentially run it into the ground. Whatever the history of the Cowboys in the Jones era, it's his mistakes as GM that have led them to where they are today.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on September 09, 2014, 07:17:35 PM
Jones' is the leagues new Al Davis.  I'm waiting for him to come out in a cool sweat suit, but that hasn't happened yet.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Arctic Blast on September 09, 2014, 11:36:39 PM
Dilfer comes on the radio a lot and I like to hear him there.  On tv, he talks too fast, trying to get everything on his mind out at one time.  And Berman has been very subdued so far tonight.

It could be worse. At least Joe Buck wasn't involved. I would say he comes off like a robot, but he's too smarmy to be mechanical.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on September 10, 2014, 05:42:48 AM
I always like Summerall and Madden. Even though Madden could be infuriating with his x's and o's at times, they were, to me anyway, light years better than most of the guys nowadays.

Although Don Meredith and his "turn out the lights, the party's over" quoting was pretty epic as well.

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on September 10, 2014, 09:44:34 AM
Yes, it's taken from a humor site (PFM), but you have to admit this (http://profootballmock.com/tony-romo-takes-full-responsibility-advance-mistakes-will-make-week-49ers/) sounds almost eerily prophetic (it was posted back on Sept. 4)... 



Quote
Tony Romo Takes Full Responsibility In Advance For Mistakes He Will Make This Week Against 49ers


DALLAS – With his team’s 2014 season opening game against San Francisco just days away, Cowboys QB Tony Romo told reporters that he takes “full responsibility for all of the unfortunate mistakes and poorly timed miscues” that he will be making against the 49ers swarming defense, and vowed to improve upon his disappointing future outing during a press conference inside Cowboys team headquarters earlier today.

“Obviously, I feel bad for the turnovers and other negative plays that will be occurring on Sunday,” a somber Romo told reporters. “And I’m willing to admit that it’s 100% my bad. Costly turnovers are simply not acceptable, so I deeply regret the ones that I’ll be committing this weekend. I know I’m capable of playing better than I will be playing against the 49ers.”

Despite Romo’s poor performance-to-be, team owner Jerry Jones maintained the embattled QB still has his full support.

“No, I haven’t lost any confidence in Tony,” Jones said. “I’ve stood by him through numerous gameday mishaps in the past, and I’ll continue to do so after Sunday’s struggles as well. I firmly believe that Tony Romo’s best days still lie ahead of him, despite the rough outing he’s apparently going to have against San Francisco.”

Romo stated that his willingness to shoulder the blame for the impending loss demonstrates his strength of leadership.

“I’m not going to sit here and point fingers at my teammates and say, ‘we’re going to lose because of that guy, or that guy,’” Romo concluded. “The bottom line is, it’s my responsibility to lead the team to victory, and I just won’t be getting the job come Sunday. I simply have to do a better job of protecting the ball and performing in the clutch than the way in which I’m not going to be doing those things this weekend.“
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Arctic Blast on September 11, 2014, 01:20:38 PM
I always like Summerall and Madden. Even though Madden could be infuriating with his x's and o's at times, they were, to me anyway, light years better than most of the guys nowadays.

Although Don Meredith and his "turn out the lights, the party's over" quoting was pretty epic as well.

Madden was great for anyone just starting to watch football, because he taught the basics. Summerall was solid until he started fumbling over his words, forgetting everyone's name, and just generally going all 'old man in the booth'.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on September 11, 2014, 08:48:44 PM
the Ravens are giving a real beating to the Steelers!





















too soon?
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Marty Ward on September 12, 2014, 06:42:12 AM
the Ravens are giving a real beating to the Steelers!





















too soon?

The Ravens were all over the Steelers like Ben on a girl in the ladies ro .... errr like Ray Rice on an elevat ....errr like Vick at a dog poun .... errr.

All hell they just kicked their ass.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on September 12, 2014, 05:00:55 PM
Well shit (http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/12/justice/nfl-vikings-adrian-peterson-indicted/index.html)


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Vikings' Adrian Peterson indicted on felony charge of injury to a child


NFL running back Adrian Peterson has been indicted on a felony charge of injury to a child, Lt. Brady Fitzgerald of the Montgomery County, Texas, Sheriff's Office said Friday.

The sheriff's office entered a warrant for Peterson's arrest. The indictment was issued Thursday, and no further details were immediately available, Fitzgerald said.

Peterson wasn't in custody in the county jail as of Friday afternoon, and the sheriff's office didn't have details on any arrest of the football player, Fitzgerald said in a statement.

Peterson's attorney couldn't be immediately reached for comment.

"The Vikings are in the process of gathering information regarding the legal situation involving Adrian Peterson," the team said in a statement.

Peterson, whose hometown is Palestine, Texas, has been a running back for the Vikings since 2007, and he rushed for 75 yards in this season's first game.

In 2012, he was named the league's most valuable player when he rushed for 2,097 yards, just nine yards short of the single-season mark, the NFL said.

Peterson, 29, lost a 2-year-old son last year who was living with his mother in South Dakota, and her boyfriend, Joseph Robert Patterson, was charged with murder. Patterson has denied the charge and said the boy choked on strawberry fruit snacks, the Argus Leader of Sioux Falls, South Dakota, reported.

Patterson, 28, also was indicted for an alleged attack on the boy's mother and pleaded not guilty to those charges in July, the Argus Leader reported.



Obviously, I hope this turns out to be bogus, especially since he's never seemed like the kind of guy who would do that sort of thing.  If so, though, they'd better throw the proverbial book at him. 

<sigh>  I refer to my initial fecal-oriented statement... 

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on September 12, 2014, 05:47:54 PM
Well shit (http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/12/justice/nfl-vikings-adrian-peterson-indicted/index.html)


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Vikings' Adrian Peterson indicted on felony charge of injury to a child


NFL running back Adrian Peterson has been indicted on a felony charge of injury to a child, Lt. Brady Fitzgerald of the Montgomery County, Texas, Sheriff's Office said Friday.

The sheriff's office entered a warrant for Peterson's arrest. The indictment was issued Thursday, and no further details were immediately available, Fitzgerald said.

Peterson wasn't in custody in the county jail as of Friday afternoon, and the sheriff's office didn't have details on any arrest of the football player, Fitzgerald said in a statement.

Peterson's attorney couldn't be immediately reached for comment.

"The Vikings are in the process of gathering information regarding the legal situation involving Adrian Peterson," the team said in a statement.

Peterson, whose hometown is Palestine, Texas, has been a running back for the Vikings since 2007, and he rushed for 75 yards in this season's first game.

In 2012, he was named the league's most valuable player when he rushed for 2,097 yards, just nine yards short of the single-season mark, the NFL said.

Peterson, 29, lost a 2-year-old son last year who was living with his mother in South Dakota, and her boyfriend, Joseph Robert Patterson, was charged with murder. Patterson has denied the charge and said the boy choked on strawberry fruit snacks, the Argus Leader of Sioux Falls, South Dakota, reported.

Patterson, 28, also was indicted for an alleged attack on the boy's mother and pleaded not guilty to those charges in July, the Argus Leader reported.



Obviously, I hope this turns out to be bogus, especially since he's never seemed like the kind of guy who would do that sort of thing.  If so, though, they'd better throw the proverbial book at him. 

<sigh>  I refer to my initial fecal-oriented statement...

  Wait, wait, wait....felony injury to a child because he used a switch on him???? Are you 'effin KIDDING ME?!?! When I was a child and misbehaving, my grandma used to make me go pick a switch and if I came back with one that was deemed too small, Grandma would pick her own. That was never good and I quickly learned the minimum-acceptable switch size for my grandma.

  My very first memory is running down the street after my Grandpa because he didn't kiss me goodbye....my grandma was hot on my tail but managed to grab a switch off a bush and she switched my legs all the way back home for running in the street. If she was alive to do that today, SWAT teams would be breaking down her door. I guess I was raised by serial killers and psychopaths. Worse, she was a Democrat.....

Seriously, WTF is wrong with our legal system today??? And how the hell did people my age survive all the "abuse" we received? Is there NO common sense left among anyone in authority???
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on September 12, 2014, 08:22:08 PM
was it Murphy or Cosby that had the switch bit?
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Marty Ward on September 12, 2014, 09:25:17 PM
WTF is it with running backs who wear purple this year?
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Arctic Blast on September 12, 2014, 11:09:20 PM
Well shit (http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/12/justice/nfl-vikings-adrian-peterson-indicted/index.html)


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Vikings' Adrian Peterson indicted on felony charge of injury to a child


NFL running back Adrian Peterson has been indicted on a felony charge of injury to a child, Lt. Brady Fitzgerald of the Montgomery County, Texas, Sheriff's Office said Friday.

The sheriff's office entered a warrant for Peterson's arrest. The indictment was issued Thursday, and no further details were immediately available, Fitzgerald said.

Peterson wasn't in custody in the county jail as of Friday afternoon, and the sheriff's office didn't have details on any arrest of the football player, Fitzgerald said in a statement.

Peterson's attorney couldn't be immediately reached for comment.

"The Vikings are in the process of gathering information regarding the legal situation involving Adrian Peterson," the team said in a statement.

Peterson, whose hometown is Palestine, Texas, has been a running back for the Vikings since 2007, and he rushed for 75 yards in this season's first game.

In 2012, he was named the league's most valuable player when he rushed for 2,097 yards, just nine yards short of the single-season mark, the NFL said.

Peterson, 29, lost a 2-year-old son last year who was living with his mother in South Dakota, and her boyfriend, Joseph Robert Patterson, was charged with murder. Patterson has denied the charge and said the boy choked on strawberry fruit snacks, the Argus Leader of Sioux Falls, South Dakota, reported.

Patterson, 28, also was indicted for an alleged attack on the boy's mother and pleaded not guilty to those charges in July, the Argus Leader reported.



Obviously, I hope this turns out to be bogus, especially since he's never seemed like the kind of guy who would do that sort of thing.  If so, though, they'd better throw the proverbial book at him. 

<sigh>  I refer to my initial fecal-oriented statement...

Apparently the kid was 4 and needed medical attention...yikes.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: -budd- on September 13, 2014, 08:59:39 AM
AP's text messages on the subject don't look good either. Theoretically I got no problem with the switching up to a point. My grandma switched me a time or two....my dad's preferred method  was a belt, and i also got paddled in school..... i got to say.....i earned every one of those smacks. Didn't AP have a child in the hospital and not go to visit but played on sunday anyway? wonder if this is the same kid.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on September 14, 2014, 09:45:07 PM
What a terrible display of clock management by Kaepernick.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on September 14, 2014, 09:55:06 PM
I dont think AP actually knows how many kids he has.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on September 15, 2014, 04:21:38 AM
I didn't see a single game yesterday.  Glad to see the Vikings score indicates a crash landing into a field of reality.  Bridgewater will be quarterback by week 8  .  AP just needs to stay sidelined until this whole fiasco is settle by the courts.  I'm tired of celebrities, politicians, and professional athletes being treated as above the law by the "news" media, courts, and public opinion.  Fuck that.  They should be held to a higher standard and equality accountable for their actions to include fines and jail time.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bbmike on September 15, 2014, 04:43:00 AM
...When I was a child and misbehaving, my grandma used to make me go pick a switch and if I came back with one that was deemed too small, Grandma would pick her own. That was never good and I quickly learned the minimum-acceptable switch size for my grandma.

Your grandma and my mother must have read the same book!  ;D
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on September 15, 2014, 07:00:40 AM
Didn't get to see the Texans-Raiders game but saw the updates on my phone. Didn't know JJ Watt scored a TD until later that night when I finally got home. W00t! But the win was versus the Raiders, though.

At least they didn't blow an 18-point lead or ice their own tying TD pass late in the game with an illegal time out...LOL...
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on September 15, 2014, 07:09:52 AM
...When I was a child and misbehaving, my grandma used to make me go pick a switch and if I came back with one that was deemed too small, Grandma would pick her own. That was never good and I quickly learned the minimum-acceptable switch size for my grandma.

Your grandma and my mother must have read the same book!  ;D


I was spanked as a child, more than once with a yard-stick, but nothing like this:

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2014/09/12/0912-adrian-peterson-son-injuries-5.jpg)

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/09/12/minnesota_vikings_running_back_adrian_peterson_reportedly_indicted_for_child.html

And now there's a report that he put leaves in his son's mouth while he was whipping him?! Wtf?!


Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Marty Ward on September 15, 2014, 07:46:34 AM
...When I was a child and misbehaving, my grandma used to make me go pick a switch and if I came back with one that was deemed too small, Grandma would pick her own. That was never good and I quickly learned the minimum-acceptable switch size for my grandma.

Your grandma and my mother must have read the same book!  ;D

Guess you didn't live in the city. Old rebar or a lead pipe would have had to take the place of the switch!
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on September 16, 2014, 02:28:19 PM
however bad your team is, it's unlikely they're this bad...

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on September 16, 2014, 03:24:11 PM
For all the switchings I got as a kid....Grandma never left marks like that. My initial response was flippant, based on my own experiences and my disdain for how society seems to want to protect our children from every possible scraped knee. I'm appalled at what I'm seeing and hearing regarding AP, moreso because I've been a big fan of his since watching him play at Oklahoma. There are always lines in life and it appears AP crossed this one big time.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on September 16, 2014, 04:13:40 PM
Tom Brady does a weekly interview on WEEI in Boston and gave a total cop out response when asked about AP. Basically it was, "I'm not going to comment because nothing I say will make a difference". Really? How about something as simple as, "As a parent, I don't believe in beating my kids".

I'll see if I can dig up the interview, but I lost a lot of respect for Tom yesterday.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on September 16, 2014, 08:00:11 PM
however bad your team is, it's unlikely they're this bad...


Allow me to respond with...

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on September 16, 2014, 08:39:13 PM
I miss Dirty Sanchez.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on September 17, 2014, 05:22:21 AM
He HAD to find a Romo clip, didn't he?  :P

notthatitwashard........
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on September 17, 2014, 07:16:56 PM
The problem with Romo clips truly is just limiting yourself to picking just one Romo moment.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on September 17, 2014, 07:54:41 PM
What's the Vegas line on Goodell getting fired?
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on September 17, 2014, 10:23:05 PM
44 million to one.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on September 18, 2014, 12:01:03 AM
The problem with Romo clips truly is just limiting yourself to picking just one Romo moment.

kinda makes you wonder how someone with less skill then the typical Grog gets paid that much to fail.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on September 18, 2014, 04:06:16 AM
Sigh.  We've got another one (http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/jonathan-dwyer-arrested-suspicion-of-aggravated-assault-arizona-cardinals-091714?cmpid=msn:foxsports:ansfox11&gt1=msnans)... 



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Cards RB Dwyer charged with assault in domestic incidents, deactivated



Arizona Cardinals running back Jonathan Dwyer was arrested Wednesday on aggravated assault charges in connection with two altercations at his home in July involving a woman and their 18-month-old child, the latest in a string of such cases involving NFL players.

The Cardinals said they became aware of the situation Wednesday and are cooperating with the investigation.

"Given the serious nature of these allegations we have taken the immediate step to deactivate Jonathan from all team activities," the team said in a statement.

The NFL said the case will be reviewed under the league's personal-conduct policy.

One of the counts was "aggravated assault causing a fracture" involving the 27-year-old victim, whom they did not identify. Police said they were carrying out a search warrant of Dwyer's residence in pursuit of more evidence.

Police said that in interviews with detectives, the 25-year-old player denied committing any assault.

There was no reply to telephone message left for Dwyer's agent, Adisa Bakari, seeking comment Wednesday.

Authorities depicted a stormy relationship between Dwyer and the woman that escalated into violence on July 21, four days before the Cardinals reported to training camp.

Neighbors heard a fight and called police, who showed up at the residence but left without making an arrest because Dwyer hid in the bathroom and the woman said no one else was at the home, Sgt. Trent Crump said.

"She said she was in an argument on the phone only," Crump said.

The next day, Crump said, Dwyer snatched the woman's cellphone and threw it from the second floor of their residence to prevent her from calling police about another dispute.

Crump confirmed there was an allegation that Dwyer threw a shoe at or toward his son. Crump said he couldn't elaborate on it.

Crump said the woman moved out of state with the child, but came forward last week and provided police with information about her injuries and text messages indicating Dwyer "was going to harm himself because of what had been going on."

The NFL has been rocked by domestic violence issues ever since a videotape surfaced that showed former Baltimore Ravens running back Ray Rice knocking out his then-fiancee in an Atlantic City, New Jersey, elevator. Then Minnesota Vikings star running back Adrian Peterson was indicted on felony child-abuse charges. On Wednesday, the Carolina Panthers decided that star defensive end Greg Hardy will not play any more games for the team until his domestic violence case is resolved.

Hardy was convicted of assault on a female and communicating threats after the victim said the 6-foot-4, 275-pound player threw her in the bathtub and onto a sofa covered with guns before threatening to kill her. Hardy is appealing the ruling.

Critics have been calling for NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell's resignation for his handling of Rice's case. Rice was originally suspended for two games, then banned indefinitely after the video surfaced of his attack in the casino elevator.

This is the second domestic violence case involving a Cardinals player. Inside linebacker Daryl Washington pleaded guilty to assaulting his ex-girlfriend and is serving a year of supervised probation. Washington has not yet been penalized by the NFL for the offense but is suspended for this season for violating the league's substance abuse policy.

Dwyer was led into the jail in handcuffs to be booked on counts that include aggravated assault causing a fracture and involving a minor, criminal damage and preventing the use of a phone in an emergency.

The Maricopa County Sheriff's Office, which runs the jail, said Dwyer has refused all media interviews.

Dwyer signed with the Cardinals this year and was their second-string running back after spending the last four seasons with the Pittsburgh Steelers. He scored a touchdown last week in Arizona's victory over the New York Giants.

His best year for Pittsburgh was 2012 when injuries depleted the team's backfield in the middle of the season and Dwyer filled in and had 100-yard-plus games in consecutive weeks.

Dwyer, from Marietta, Georgia, was a sixth-round draft pick of the Steelers out of Georgia Tech in 2010.

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on September 18, 2014, 06:51:47 AM
I'm not surprised at all.

Also saw this morning about Pepsi jumping on the FREE PUBLICITY bandwagon by denouncing the NFL. Denouncing the same squeaky wheel that advertises their shitty products to TENS of millions. Sugary, crappy soda drinks that do more to cause diabetes and unhealthiness to thousands than NFL wife-beaters do. The thing that infuriates me is the obviousness of Pepsi trying to get that free pub along with the others - it has NOTHING to do with outrage on their part, whatsoever. They're a business and they're taking advantage of the situation, using this faux outrage to get the media to oblige, and the news will of course like the lapdogs they are eat it up and give them what they want.  :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff:

That all said, while I'm completely cynical to their advertisers' motivations, I can't disagree that the NFL drops the ball every day when it comes to player discipline. Personally I think any player that runs afoul of the law should suffer severe consequences. Misdemeanor? You're suspended without pay for a certain number of games, depending on the class of the misdemeanor. Felony? You're out. Period. Go to Canada to play in the CFL or find a real job somewhere. These guys are, for better or worse, in the public eye and acting like idiots and getting arrested, then being on the field the next day, sends the wrong message.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: airboy on September 21, 2014, 12:19:09 PM
The SEC was very interesting this week.  Alabama doubled Florida (42 - 21) but trailed in the third quarter due to mistakes.
LSU lost at home to Mississippi State for the first time in 20 years.  First loss to them in 14 years.
Auburn won on the road in an ugly performance against top 20 Kansas State.
Texas A&M keeps lighting up the score board.

Auburn still has to play LSU, Mississippi State, Mississippi, Texas A&M, Alabama, Georgia and South Carolina.  Talk about a killer schedule.  AU has to play the only two good teams in the SEC East (Georgia & SC) plus the normal brutal SEC West opponents.  In two weeks Auburn plays LSU and my tailgate has the traditional Seafood Boil which is just excellent!

On the down side, UNC gave up 70 points and almost 800 yards of total offense against East Carolina.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on September 21, 2014, 01:00:55 PM
I have zero motivation for football today.  Im just sitting here churning out Shogun2 turns and cant be bothered.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on September 21, 2014, 01:16:38 PM
That was an absolutely bullshit unnecessary roughness penalty called on the Vikes.  And now the Saints' drive is continuing instead of us having the ball back.  >:( 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on September 21, 2014, 07:09:00 PM
Texans =  :-[  :tickedoff:  :uglystupid2:
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on September 22, 2014, 10:30:50 AM
Best college football headline of the weekend (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2014/09/21/against-florida-state-clemsons-clemsoning-was-the-most-clemsoning-clemson-ever-clemsoned/)

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Against Florida State, Clemson’s ‘Clemsoning’ was the most ‘Clemsoning’ Clemson ever Clemsoned

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Top-ranked Florida State, without Jameis Winston, rallied for an overtime win Saturday, 23-17, over No. 22 Clemson. The game is sure to spawn innumerable articles and blog posts about Winston, the performance of his backup, Sean Maguire, and the Seminoles in general.

This isn’t one of those blog posts. This post is about “Clemsoning.” Or, as it trended on Twitter on Saturday night, #Clemsoning.

See, there it is, to the left, just after “Winston” and a word from one of Twitter’s fine sponsors.

So what is “Clemsoning”? Well, it’s a term that’s made its way far enough into common parlance that it gets defined in Urban Dictionary. That Web site’s first definition reads thusly:

“The act of delivering an inexplicably disappointing performance, usually within the context of a college football season.”

A helpful example of use within a phrase is then offered: “Oklahoma State’s overtime loss to an unranked Iowa State was a full-blown Clemsoning.”

The fact is, Clemson’s performance Saturday, in which it repeatedly declined opportunities to beat the No. 1 team in the country at their crib, was very much par for the course. It’s just what Clemson does, year after year. The team has an uncanny knack for putting together talented squads that inevitably become less than the sum of their parts.

The Web site Lost Lettermen cites, as an example of Clemsoning, the 2012 Orange Bowl, pitting Clemson against West Virginia. The Tigers had finally not done a lot of Clemsoning that season, winning the ACC for the first time in 20 years and reaching its first-ever BCS bowl game. So what did it do in that bowl game? Clemson got blown out, 70-33.

But we need not go back any further than Saturday to find immaculate examples of Clemsoning. In the third quarter, with the game tied at 10, the Tigers had a first-and-goal from the Seminoles 1-yard line. Here comes a touchdown, right? Wrong. Two extremely predictable running plays right up the middle went nowhere, but wait, there was a penalty on Florida State, giving Clemson another second-down play, mere inches from the goal line.

Then Clemsoning happened. The snap to quarterback Deshaun Watson, who was in a shotgun formation — raising the question, “Why are the coaches having you stand back in the shotgun when your team is on the goal line??!!” — sailed right past, and Watson could only sprint back and fall on the ball at the 24-yard line. Two plays and a missed field goal later, the Tigers had nothing to show for near-certain scoring position.

there's much more at the link, including a lot of twitter excerpts that are just funny :)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: airboy on September 22, 2014, 11:36:51 AM
Best college football headline of the weekend (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2014/09/21/against-florida-state-clemsons-clemsoning-was-the-most-clemsoning-clemson-ever-clemsoned/)

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Against Florida State, Clemson’s ‘Clemsoning’ was the most ‘Clemsoning’ Clemson ever Clemsoned

Quote
Top-ranked Florida State, without Jameis Winston, rallied for an overtime win Saturday, 23-17, over No. 22 Clemson. The game is sure to spawn innumerable articles and blog posts about Winston, the performance of his backup, Sean Maguire, and the Seminoles in general.

This isn’t one of those blog posts. This post is about “Clemsoning.” Or, as it trended on Twitter on Saturday night, #Clemsoning.

See, there it is, to the left, just after “Winston” and a word from one of Twitter’s fine sponsors.

So what is “Clemsoning”? Well, it’s a term that’s made its way far enough into common parlance that it gets defined in Urban Dictionary. That Web site’s first definition reads thusly:

“The act of delivering an inexplicably disappointing performance, usually within the context of a college football season.”

A helpful example of use within a phrase is then offered: “Oklahoma State’s overtime loss to an unranked Iowa State was a full-blown Clemsoning.”

The fact is, Clemson’s performance Saturday, in which it repeatedly declined opportunities to beat the No. 1 team in the country at their crib, was very much par for the course. It’s just what Clemson does, year after year. The team has an uncanny knack for putting together talented squads that inevitably become less than the sum of their parts.

The Web site Lost Lettermen cites, as an example of Clemsoning, the 2012 Orange Bowl, pitting Clemson against West Virginia. The Tigers had finally not done a lot of Clemsoning that season, winning the ACC for the first time in 20 years and reaching its first-ever BCS bowl game. So what did it do in that bowl game? Clemson got blown out, 70-33.

But we need not go back any further than Saturday to find immaculate examples of Clemsoning. In the third quarter, with the game tied at 10, the Tigers had a first-and-goal from the Seminoles 1-yard line. Here comes a touchdown, right? Wrong. Two extremely predictable running plays right up the middle went nowhere, but wait, there was a penalty on Florida State, giving Clemson another second-down play, mere inches from the goal line.

Then Clemsoning happened. The snap to quarterback Deshaun Watson, who was in a shotgun formation — raising the question, “Why are the coaches having you stand back in the shotgun when your team is on the goal line??!!” — sailed right past, and Watson could only sprint back and fall on the ball at the 24-yard line. Two plays and a missed field goal later, the Tigers had nothing to show for near-certain scoring position.

there's much more at the link, including a lot of twitter excerpts that are just funny :)

Thanks!  My wife will love this.  Almost as good as the "Chicken Curse" for South Carolina.

What irritated me was Clemson had the ball 1st and 10 around the Florida State 17 yard line with less than 2 minutes to go in a tie game on the road against #1.  Clemson then fumbled the next running play sending the game into overtime.

Clemson could not hold onto the %^*&_%^^%( ball long enough to kick a chippie field goal for a win.  All the while the Florida State morons were doing their moronic, repetitive chant that the IQ level of their average fan can barely manage.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on September 25, 2014, 08:40:05 PM
Eli Manning just passed Jim Kelly for 20th all time on the TD Pass list.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on September 26, 2014, 06:38:19 AM
Eli Manning just passed Jim Kelly for 20th all time on the TD Pass list.

Not if you add in Kelly's days as a Houston Gambler  8)  In two seasons in Houston leading coach Mouse Davis' run-and-shoot offense, Kelly threw for 9,842 yards and 83 touchdowns.

And yeah, I know...it doesn't count. Nor should it. But fun to consider nonetheless.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on September 26, 2014, 08:04:29 AM
Eli Manning just passed Jim Kelly for 20th all time on the TD Pass list.

<barf>
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on September 28, 2014, 03:16:36 PM
What's with the guys in the purple uniforms?  Somebody tell'em they are Vikings and can start sucking any time they want now...
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on September 28, 2014, 05:10:41 PM
Ben Roethlisberger -  314 yds & 3TDs and the Steelers lose to the Bucs! Hahahahahahahaha!
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on September 28, 2014, 06:50:54 PM
what an odd day of football.

Bears lose at home.
Vikings win with a rookie QB and no Peterson.    :o
last minute loss for the Steelers.
and a crushing win for the Dolphins.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on September 28, 2014, 06:51:32 PM
on the college side - my Wolfpack lost, but they didn't embarrass themselves.  Quite the contrary, the game is tonight's highlight 'rerun' on ESPNU tonight.  No one in the history of FSU football had scored 24 first-quarter points on the Seminoles until yesterday.  Of course, NC State got outscored 49-17 after the first quarter...
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on September 28, 2014, 07:43:56 PM
what an odd day of football.

Bears lose at home.
Vikings win with a rookie QB and no Peterson.    :o
last minute loss for the Steelers.
and a crushing win for the Dolphins.

And now the Cowboys are beating up on the Saints.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on September 28, 2014, 07:58:42 PM
I was pulling for NC State, Brant.  I hate hate all the Florida teams, FSU the least, but, I'm tired of Jameis Winston's antics and I was hoping a loss would shame the little fu*ker.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on September 29, 2014, 03:42:55 AM
It figures.  For once, I'm actually up during the day when the Vikes have a late afternoon game, AND they win...but I didn't get to watch the game.  :(  Granted, I was at the Renaissance Festival (and I had a good time), but still... 


Ah well.  Good to see them do well with Teddy at the helm, plus AP finally get a bunch of rushing yards and TD's...wait, what?? 

Okay yeah, this is a strange day.  Not a *bad* day, by any means.  But a strange one.  ??? 

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on September 29, 2014, 05:06:39 AM
J.J. Watts.  Damn, what can't that kid do? A receiving TD this year and an 80 yard interception return yesterday for a TD...by a defensive lineman. Great attitude and a monster on the field. One of those few players that the opposing team has to rewrite their offensive plans for. No exaggeration to call Watts a Hall of Famer in waiting.

I wish I could draft Watts for my fantasy football team....on offense! He's better than a couple of bench warmers I have already.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Airborne Rifles on September 29, 2014, 06:01:54 AM
J.J. Watts.  Damn, what can't that kid do? A receiving TD this year and an 80 yard interception return yesterday for a TD...by a defensive lineman. Great attitude and a monster on the field. One of those few players that the opposing team has to rewrite their offensive plans for. No exaggeration to call Watts a Hall of Famer in waiting.

I wish I could draft Watts for my fantasy football team....on offense! He's better than a couple of bench warmers I have already.

He came to my base in Afghanistan on a USO tour last year. I didn't talk to him (didn't want to take time away from the young soldiers who the tour was supposed to cheer up a anyway) but just observing him in the mess hall he seemed a really stand-up guy, and the fact that he came to our base which wasn't really all that big (or safe) was cool.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on September 29, 2014, 06:02:21 AM
Yeah...we're all still kind of blown away down here by Watt. He's a damned good player and very dedicated to his work. Plus he's just an all-around good guy too, at least in the public eye (lol). He's involved in a lot of local stuff and you can't go to an HEB grocery store without seeing his face on some endcap or display...but that's one of the few times where celebrity advertising doesn't annoy the piss out of me. He deserves the raise he got, and I already think NFL players are VASTLY overpaid a-holes in general. Him, I make an exception for.

He was once asked why he doesn't live it up since he's a millionaire now, and a multi- one too. The day after he signed that $100 million contract, he was in the weight room at 4:00 a.m. again working out. His reply was something to the effect of, while he's on the team, he's working 24/7 to be the best he can be. He says he'll have plenty of time to play around after he retires.

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on September 30, 2014, 10:15:42 AM
The Raiders have fired their coach, four games into the season.

Kansas State also fired their coach. 

Must be hoping to be first in line for good replacements.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on September 30, 2014, 10:17:17 AM
K-State did not.  Kansas did.  K-State still has Bill Snyder rolling strong
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on September 30, 2014, 10:26:30 AM
LOL - I'll tell my wife. She's a K-State alumnus and about the only football she gets good and pissed off about is when she's watching a K-State game. Snyder is a god to those people.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on September 30, 2014, 10:27:22 AM
K-State did not.  Kansas did.  K-State still has Bill Snyder rolling strong

Fixed it.  Thanks.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on September 30, 2014, 11:36:17 PM
The Raiders have fired their coach, four games into the season.

getting beat that badly by the Dolphins does that.   :2funny:

Im not a fan of the Dolphins but so far its about as good as one could hope for.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on October 01, 2014, 04:57:50 AM
The Raiders have fired their coach, four games into the season.

getting beat that badly by the Dolphins does that.   :2funny:

Im not a fan of the Dolphins but so far its about as good as one could hope for.

so you know what the Raiders did next?  They hired the Dolphins ex-coach :)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on October 01, 2014, 06:01:08 AM
I sounds like Al Davis is still running things in Oakland.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on October 01, 2014, 06:29:12 AM
Tony Sparano.

What the hell are they thinking?  :idiot2:
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on October 01, 2014, 06:51:26 AM
who else do you really think they could have gotten?
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on October 01, 2014, 07:10:44 AM
Point taken. Although the Gruden rumors are highly entertaining.  >:D
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Arctic Blast on October 02, 2014, 10:34:44 AM
I'm fully on board with anything that takes Gruden out of the booth. Please hire him, Oakland! We're all begging you!
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on October 02, 2014, 02:27:21 PM
I'm fully on board with anything that takes Gruden out of the booth. Please hire him, Oakland! We're all begging you!

+50 million
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on October 02, 2014, 03:51:36 PM
Praise fat baby Jeebus or Allah Admiral Akbar or whomever, yes. Get Gruden to da field (by choppah or whatevah)!!

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on October 02, 2014, 09:52:39 PM
All of youse, BACK OFF Chucky!  That's my coach!!  Tampa Bay Buccaneers Super Bowl winning coach!!!
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Arctic Blast on October 03, 2014, 01:11:12 PM
All of youse, BACK OFF Chucky!  That's my coach!!  Tampa Bay Buccaneers Super Bowl winning coach!!!

And possibly the worst commentator of all time...unless he's right and every single player for every single team actually is 'The greatest'.  :tickedoff:
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on October 03, 2014, 05:48:53 PM
Oh!  You want him out of the booth?  Well, then, by all means, put him on the sideline ;)


My all time worst commentator for football was Joe Theisman.  After a while, once I found out he was calling the game, I would just hit Mute.  Problem solved.

There are three more that I just refuse to listen to:

1)  Steve Phillips - ex-GM of the Mets who had a hate hard on for the Yankees.  He doesn't call games any more after he got fired from ESPN for sexual shenanigans with a co-worker.

2)  Danny Kanell - I don't watch tv much, and especially not any college coverage, but he comes on SVP and Russillo often and spews his special brand of SEC bias wherever he goes.

3)  Gene Deckerhoff - Ruined Bucs games for me in the Griese era by calling him, "Greezee."  Can't STAND that!
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on October 03, 2014, 06:15:52 PM
What's funny about Kannell is that he isn't an SEC guy. He played at FSU
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on October 03, 2014, 08:41:13 PM
I don't mind Joe.  I want to reach through my television and grab Bob Douchebag Costas any time I see or hear him.  He's ruined Sunday Night Football, the Olympics, Baseball, and just adds to the NBC insistence of using douchebags to push politics and ruin mind numbing sporting events.  Now I just don't watch any sport on NBC unless the volume is off just to mitigate against the possibility of hearing Bob spewing on about something inane.  It's the Washington Redskins Bob.  You fucking talentless moron.  Thanks guy now you got my blood pressure up.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on October 04, 2014, 12:34:26 AM
What's funny about Kannell is that he isn't an SEC guy. He played at FSU

Maybe I wasn't clear about Kanell and his bias.  It's not FOR the SEC, but AGAINST it.  And he doesn't bother trying to hide it.  For the first time in the history of college football, SIX ranked teams from the same conference will play one another on the same day.  Not only the same conference, but the same DIVISION of a conference.  And you can say what you'd like about how they got ranked or whether they all deserve to be ranked (they do, in case you didn't know), it's the system we have and it's HISTORICAL.  But Kanell will find a way to shit all over it and make FSU out to be greater than what happens Saturday.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on October 04, 2014, 06:47:05 PM
Big day for teams from Mississippi...
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on October 04, 2014, 07:07:11 PM
Big day for teams from Mississippi...

Not words that you hear often   8)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Con on October 04, 2014, 07:49:52 PM
Big day for teams from Mississippi...

Not words that you hear often   8)
Unless you are talking about teenage pregnancies
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on October 04, 2014, 08:38:25 PM
and slavery....   ::)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on October 04, 2014, 08:40:11 PM
Southern Miss just had to be different
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on October 04, 2014, 08:55:00 PM
all that aside....

tomorrow continues the Vikings march to the Superbowl!!!!



























for those that needed a good laugh.  8)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on October 04, 2014, 09:50:15 PM
I watched most of the Alabama-Ole Miss game.  There were missed field goals on both sides.  Two from the 'Bama kicker, which would have tied things and put it into overtime.  It seemed like Alabama had the game in hand at 17-10, but, the wheels fell off in the 4th.  A couple of passes behind the defense, one a long touchdown catch, and it was all over.  The fumble by Alabama's kickoff returner sealed the deal.

Didn't watch State and A&M.  After watching Arkansas almost take them out last week, I was none too confident Texas A&M could pull off the win.  Turns out I was right.  Here's to hoping that the SEC West continues to become clearer over the next few weeks and a worthy candidate for the playoff is born.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on October 04, 2014, 10:44:32 PM
I've already said I expect the Vikings to go no better than 4 -12 this season.  Anything more than 4 wins is pure, sweet goodness, pork fat laden gravy.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on October 04, 2014, 10:53:15 PM
its not like we're talking about the jets or cowgirls here.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on October 05, 2014, 10:50:20 AM
I've already said I expect the Vikings to go no better than 4 -12 this season.  Anything more than 4 wins is pure, sweet goodness, pork fat laden gravy.

I'm thinking more like 6-10 myself, but yeah we're certainly not going anywhere this season. 

So what do you think?  Will the Vikes grab a RB in next year's draft?  Or will they try to sign/trade for one instead? 

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on October 05, 2014, 11:01:47 AM
Even if AP comes back they need a good young back, because let's be honest AP has maybe 2 or 3 at the most premium years left and he has a history of injury.

Honestly the offense isn't horrible not like the defense which is an abject disaster.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Arctic Blast on October 05, 2014, 05:08:15 PM
The D will be fine. Zimmer's brilliant on that side of the ball, and they have some good young talent.

Brief return to 'broadcasters we hate' : Joe Buck. The man couldn't be more boring and robotic if he were made of metal. Awful.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on October 05, 2014, 06:11:59 PM
I don't mind Joe Buck at least he doesn't seem to feel the need to be a pontificating on the virtues of political correctness asshat. 

(http://newsbusters.org/sites/default/files/2013/Big%20Costas.jpg)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on October 05, 2014, 06:15:24 PM
(http://www.investors.com/image/RAMclrFNL101613_800.jpg.cms)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on October 05, 2014, 06:44:11 PM
The Royals are playing lights out against the Angels...wow!
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on October 05, 2014, 07:16:48 PM
wrong sport.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on October 05, 2014, 07:26:50 PM
How many goals are the Royals winning by?
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Staggerwing on October 05, 2014, 07:39:58 PM
15-Love
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Con on October 05, 2014, 07:46:31 PM
En garde.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on October 05, 2014, 07:47:15 PM
There's no baseball thread and I'm not watching football.  P.S.  I won both of my fantasy football games today.  :P
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on October 05, 2014, 08:32:31 PM
There's no baseball thread and I'm not watching football.  P.S.  I won both of my fantasy football games today.  :P

so there's not 1 Viking in your roster.  :2funny:
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on October 06, 2014, 05:45:23 AM
That Texans-Cowboys game...sigh. What a major disappointment. You can't have a football team hand you that many turnovers and only score 17 friggin' points.

TONY ROMOOOOOO :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff:
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on October 06, 2014, 07:36:00 AM
I did like how the Texans fans were loud enough that Romo had to go to silent count...  at home
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Marty Ward on October 06, 2014, 08:36:39 AM
wrong sport.

No right sport, at least for yesterday considering the stinker the Ravens put up. Go O's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on October 06, 2014, 01:04:51 PM
^  Could be worse.  At least your team wasn't utterly humiliated like the Jets, Bengals, or my Viqueens.  :-[ 




The Royals are playing lights out against the Angels...wow!

wrong sport.


How many goals are the Royals winning by?

15-Love

En garde.

This entire sequence exemplifies why Grogheads is one of the greatest websites ever.  (Cannot...stop...laughing...) 

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Marty Ward on October 06, 2014, 01:18:04 PM
^  Could be worse.  At least your team wasn't utterly humiliated like the Jets, Bengals, or my Viqueens.  :-[ 


True and we do get the Bucs next week so things are looking up!
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on October 06, 2014, 04:10:32 PM
I did like how the Texans fans were loud enough that Romo had to go to silent count...  at home

Yeah, saw the stands were full of red and blue. F&ck the Cowboys. Especially in that giant silver cockroach. Romo's yearly reckoning is coming.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on October 06, 2014, 04:29:44 PM
Romo's favorite time of giving defensive players the opportunity to shine is in December.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on October 07, 2014, 02:19:01 AM
^  Could be worse.  At least your team wasn't utterly humiliated like the Jets, Bengals, or my Viqueens.  :-[ 

rooting for the Viqueens is akin to dating that chick that wont suck your dick because she has TMJ or some bullshit but every Sunday you hope this is the day.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: airboy on October 07, 2014, 09:01:40 AM
Almost unbelievable week in College Football.  10 of the top 25 got beat.  Number 2, 3, 4 and 6 all lost (Oregon, Alabama, Oklahoma, Texas A&M).

This week #2 Auburn plays #3 Mississippi State in an SEC showdown of unbeatens.  If you had asked me at the start of the season if the AU-Miss St. game could be anything like this important I would have to have said no.

Although Auburn dismantled LSU last week, their upcoming schedule still has:
Mississippi St.
Mississippi
Texas A&M
South Carolina
Georgia
Alabama

Hard for me to see how they can win all 6 of these games in the regular season.  With half of the season completed, these 6 opponents have combined for 6 losses with half of the losses coming from South Carolina.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on October 07, 2014, 06:49:42 PM
You should beat A&M, Georgia and South Carolina fairly easily.  It's the rest of them that you have to watch out for.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: airboy on October 08, 2014, 07:51:25 PM
You should beat A&M, Georgia and South Carolina fairly easily.  It's the rest of them that you have to watch out for.

Auburn will have to show up, and play hard, to win any of them.  If they don't get up for any of these games they are dead meat.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on October 11, 2014, 11:52:28 AM
Great game last night.  The Royals managed a great 10th inning of power
hitting.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on October 11, 2014, 11:59:54 AM
That sounds like a great football game!   ::)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on October 11, 2014, 01:31:20 PM
It was a most excellent game.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on October 11, 2014, 06:49:09 PM
Best headline yet is on this article http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2014/10/11/6962393/miami-hurricanes-football-attendance-cincinnati
"There are several people at Miami's home game against Cincinnati"

with this picture
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzrxwqSIcAAz_Y0.jpg)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on October 11, 2014, 06:51:32 PM
this is once the game had started

(https://igcdn-photos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/10706813_719006271508115_1512100134_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on October 12, 2014, 12:24:03 PM
Okay, I know the Lions' defense is supposed to be good, but this is simply ridiculous.  Could the Vikes' offensive line maybe, just maybe, *not* immediately fucking collapse the moment the ball gets hiked??!!  I'm getting really tired of watching Bridgewater get sacked, hurried, and/or knocked down every goddamn play.  >:(  >:(  >:( 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: airboy on October 12, 2014, 09:17:44 PM
You should beat A&M, Georgia and South Carolina fairly easily.  It's the rest of them that you have to watch out for.

Auburn will have to show up, and play hard, to win any of them.  If they don't get up for any of these games they are dead meat.

And Auburn showed up and played real dumb at Mississippi State with 4 turnovers - three inside the 20 leading to touchdowns.  So we lose.

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on October 13, 2014, 01:02:36 AM
Ugh, what a crappy day.  Vikings lose, Steelers lose, the Vikes' division rivals all win...and so did the goddamn Patriots *and* the Cowboys.  That's about as bad as it gets. 




You should beat A&M, Georgia and South Carolina fairly easily.  It's the rest of them that you have to watch out for.

Auburn will have to show up, and play hard, to win any of them.  If they don't get up for any of these games they are dead meat.

And Auburn showed up and played real dumb at Mississippi State with 4 turnovers - three inside the 20 leading to touchdowns.  So we lose.



So odd to see Mississippi State at #1 in the rankings. 

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on October 13, 2014, 05:48:38 AM
it was a shit day all around.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on October 13, 2014, 06:33:07 AM
I see the Dolphins managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Arctic Blast on October 14, 2014, 08:12:55 PM
I found myself cheering for the Cowboys on Sunday. This is how deep my hated of everything Seahawk goes.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on October 14, 2014, 08:47:16 PM
You and Kushan should talk.  He LOATHES the Seahawks!
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on October 17, 2014, 10:50:06 AM
the comments on this one very quickly spiral into something that would happen over here

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11712391/baltimore-ravens-receiver-steve-smith-quits-twitter
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on October 17, 2014, 02:01:47 PM
Heh!  About all they're missing are the pictures of bewbays. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on October 20, 2014, 09:49:24 AM
very interesting (and borderline salacious) article about Jim Irsay and some of the, uh... "interesting" relationships he's had with women and/or drugs.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11705479/investigations-reveal-shadow-life-indianapolis-colts-owner-jim-irsay
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on October 26, 2014, 12:48:25 PM
Watching the Vikes and Bucs play each other is like watching a couple toddlers in a slap-fight. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on October 26, 2014, 01:09:13 PM
Thank you Chicago Bears for participating in the 2014-2015 NFL season.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on October 26, 2014, 01:12:30 PM
They had Bill Murray on Fox this morning, and you know he's a HUGE Bears fan.  He was woofing about the '85 SB.  That's about the same score, isn't it?  ;)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on October 26, 2014, 01:14:37 PM
They had Bill Murray on Fox this morning, and you know he's a HUGE Bears fan.  He was woofing about the '85 SB.  That's about the same score, isn't it?  ;)

Nobody's perfect. :P
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on October 26, 2014, 03:14:44 PM
Watching the Vikes and Bucs play each other is like watching a couple toddlers in a slap-fight.

I think you can add the Jets to that list of infamy. At least the Vikes won today, eh?
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on October 26, 2014, 03:18:05 PM
Watching the Vikes and Bucs play each other is like watching a couple toddlers in a slap-fight.

I think you can add the Jets to that list of infamy. At least the Vikes won today, eh?

The Jets don't qualify for toddler status.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on October 26, 2014, 03:33:33 PM
Well the Vikings are one win away from living up to my expectations for the season.  It's so much easier to be a fan when you don't live in the regional broadcast area.  I'm not subjected to watching their debacle of a season on a weekly basis.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on October 27, 2014, 11:53:14 AM
At least the Vikes won today, eh?

To my complete & utter astonishment, yes. 

After last week's last-second collapse in Buffalo, I became honestly convinced they wouldn't win another game this season.  My expectations have plummeted even lower than Bison's

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on October 27, 2014, 12:04:07 PM
with the Saints-Panthers game coming up THU, let's pause for a moment and look back at last year's freakin' awesome Battle of the Boards

http://profootballmock.com/boardbattles/battle-boards-panthers-saints/
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on October 28, 2014, 12:32:16 PM
The cowboys entered into second half of the season last night in prime form.   The best part was to see Jerry pathetically pacing the sidelines.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on October 29, 2014, 03:38:21 AM
I have to say, this was a pretty good weekend.  The Vikings and Steelers won, while the Packers, Bears, and Cowboys all lost. 

Of course, the goddamn Patriots steamrolled yet another opponent, but considering it was Chicago, I can't make myself hate them too much at the moment.  :P 

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: airboy on October 29, 2014, 11:04:13 AM
The first ranking for the college football playoffs came out.
1] Mississippi State
2] Florida State
3] Auburn
4] Ole Miss

Auburn and Ole Miss play in Oxford on Saturday.

Lots of SEC West teams in the top 10 - but they will knock each other down due to their schedule.

I will be surprised if Auburn can beat: Ole Miss, Texas A&M, Alabama and Georgia remaining on their schedule without another loss.  All but Texas A&M are road games.  Auburn has had a brutal schedule this year.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on October 29, 2014, 05:47:21 PM
I agree that Auburn has had a pretty tough schedule.  Seeing your remaining four, I don't see you going ANY worse than 2 & 2.  Georgia and A&M should really be no problem.  It's going to come down to how well you play against 'Bama and Ole Miss.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on October 29, 2014, 09:34:02 PM
Excellent World Series.  But they should have went for home in the 9th and an inside the park home run, because that was the only thing that was going to beat Bumgarner. 

Well I'd do some SEC bashing tonight but I've run out of Dick and Jane quips that Metaldog would understand.  For the record.  Notre Dame gets a play off spot if they stay a one loss team.


Ben Roethlisberger:  That's because MetalDog is from the South and that makes him stupid.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on October 30, 2014, 05:15:48 PM
Ben Roethlisberger:  That's because MetalDog is from the South and that makes him stupid.

No it's because you are a Connecticut Yankee in Alabama who loves cheering for the elephants in the Bronx zoo.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on October 30, 2014, 05:44:47 PM
So that means I am a New York Crimson Tide fan hollering, "Roll Yanks!"
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on October 30, 2014, 06:13:18 PM
Exactly and that makes no f'n sense unless you're seeing pink elephants in which case we need to have a different conversation.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on October 30, 2014, 06:49:53 PM
I work with several guys that are Yankee fans here.  The fact that they also root for Auburn kind of skews things, but, I'm always willing to help them back to the winning side.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: airboy on November 01, 2014, 10:06:54 PM
Auburn beat Ole Miss in one of the oddest endings I have ever seen.  Auburn almost managed to beat themselves with all of their penalties.  But they have managed to beat two top ten teams on the road.

Still have Texas A&M, Georgia and Alabama to go - only A&M at home.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on November 02, 2014, 04:10:00 PM
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Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on November 02, 2014, 05:17:05 PM
Auburn beat Ole Miss in one of the oddest endings I have ever seen.  Auburn almost managed to beat themselves with all of their penalties.  But they have managed to beat two top ten teams on the road.

Still have Texas A&M, Georgia and Alabama to go - only A&M at home.

So, Ole Miss will drop all the way to what, 4th or 5th.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on November 02, 2014, 05:17:13 PM
yeah, the Chargers stank the place up today
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on November 02, 2014, 05:17:42 PM
:2funny:

nice use of the move tag there
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on November 02, 2014, 05:30:36 PM
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Peyton's had a similar demeanor this afternoon.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on November 02, 2014, 06:34:06 PM
I actually pulled off a huge major score today at me somewhat newish regular pub. 
I got Formula 1 on the projector tv.  O0
thats what going often and tipping well get ya in the real world.
after the race was over I couldnt give a crap what Captain Forehead and Prettyboy did in their game.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on November 02, 2014, 06:42:07 PM
Captain Forehead got a beat down.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on November 02, 2014, 06:43:26 PM
ewwwww 21-43
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on November 02, 2014, 07:25:35 PM
yeah, the Chargers stank the place up today

yeah, and so did the Texans...  :tickedoff:
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on November 02, 2014, 07:47:16 PM
no one expects good NFL teams from Texas.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on November 02, 2014, 09:17:08 PM
Then how come Cowboy fans seem to be all entitled and stuff?!
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on November 02, 2014, 09:18:07 PM
Auburn beat Ole Miss in one of the oddest endings I have ever seen.  Auburn almost managed to beat themselves with all of their penalties.  But they have managed to beat two top ten teams on the road.

Still have Texas A&M, Georgia and Alabama to go - only A&M at home.

So, Ole Miss will drop all the way to what, 4th or 5th.


I'm thinking no better than 6th.  Oregon and Alabama should both move up one.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on November 02, 2014, 09:19:55 PM
Then how come Cowboy fans seem to be all entitled and stuff?!

Longhorns and A&M
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on November 02, 2014, 09:21:23 PM
Any time a Texas team loses, a Democrat gets his/her...
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on November 03, 2014, 02:19:49 AM
Any time a Texas team loses, a Democrat gets his/her...

...Bell rung? 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on November 03, 2014, 06:14:00 AM
Longhorn fans are tolerable. A&M fans are not; they're generally entitled idiots and are as thick as mosquitoes here in southeast Texas.

I say 'generally' because I HAVE met a few individuals from A&M that are decent folk. Let's just say my expectations remain low. Much to my chagrin, my daughter wants to go there. Sigh.

And as far as the Texans go...at least they're not the Jets.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on November 04, 2014, 01:30:28 PM
Sounds like AP may have reached a plea agreement: 


http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/peterson-reportedly-reaches-plea-deal-in-child-abuse-case/ar-BBcXkUx?ocid=ansspfox11


If this is indeed the case, then the question becomes, will he play for the Vikings again?  And if so, when? 

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Arctic Blast on November 04, 2014, 01:42:44 PM
If I'm the Vikings, why do I bring him back? Their running game hasn't been a problem, and he doesn't add enough to be worth the massive PR hit he's bringing with him.

Unless he's suddenly going to become an impact linebacker, receiver, safety or offensive lineman, leave him at home.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Con on November 04, 2014, 04:15:22 PM
Make him trade bate and reverse Herschel Walker your way out of this mess into a raft of draft picks

Con
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on November 04, 2014, 05:25:10 PM
He'll be a Cowboy in no time. Conroe is only about three, 3.5 hours south of Dallas and just a bit north of me.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on November 04, 2014, 06:35:26 PM
Latest College Playoff Rankings;

1   Mississippi State   8-0
2   Florida State   8-0
3   Auburn   7-1
4   Oregon   8-1
5   Alabama   7-1
6   TCU   7-1
7   Kansas State   7-1
8   Michigan State   7-1
9   Arizona State   7-1
10   Notre Dame   7-1
11   Ole Miss   7-2
12   Baylor   7-1
13   Nebraska   8-1
14   Ohio State   7-1
15   Oklahoma   6-2
16   LSU   7-2
17   Utah   6-2
18   UCLA   7-2
19   Arizona   6-2
20   Georgia   6-2
21   Clemson   6-2
22   Duke   7-1
23   West Virginia   6-3
24   Georgia Tech   7-2
25   Wisconsin   6-2
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on November 05, 2014, 01:12:26 PM
Make him trade bate and reverse Herschel Walker your way out of this mess into a raft of draft picks

Con

He'll be a Cowboy in no time. Conroe is only about three, 3.5 hours south of Dallas and just a bit north of me.

Sad to say, this is starting to sound like way too much sense.  :-\ 

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on November 06, 2014, 12:37:20 PM
I think this pretty well sums up the Jets season. Every Jets season, really....

          (http://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/2363180/waaatryan.0.gif)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Arctic Blast on November 06, 2014, 01:43:26 PM
Make him trade bate and reverse Herschel Walker your way out of this mess into a raft of draft picks

Con

He'll be a Cowboy in no time. Conroe is only about three, 3.5 hours south of Dallas and just a bit north of me.

Sad to say, this is starting to sound like way too much sense.  :-\

Except the whole 'raft of draft picks' thing. At this point, you MIGHT be able to trade him for an actual raft. Maybe.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on November 06, 2014, 02:01:08 PM
Make him trade bate and reverse Herschel Walker your way out of this mess into a raft of draft picks

Con

He'll be a Cowboy in no time. Conroe is only about three, 3.5 hours south of Dallas and just a bit north of me.

Sad to say, this is starting to sound like way too much sense.  :-\

Except the whole 'raft of draft picks' thing. At this point, you MIGHT be able to trade him for an actual raft. Maybe.
I don't see the 'Boys giving much for AP considering how well DeMarco Murray has performed. Of course, Jerry Jones has overpaid in trades before, so I'm not putting money down....
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on November 06, 2014, 02:07:29 PM
isn't Murray a free agent after this year?
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on November 06, 2014, 03:16:29 PM
isn't Murray a free agent after this year?

I believe you're right. Good point.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on November 06, 2014, 06:13:36 PM
Rex Ryan is an idiot.  He's right up their Norv "Douche Bag" Turner.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on November 06, 2014, 06:23:48 PM
Far be it for me to defend anyone associated, past, present, or future, with the Dallas Cowboys (tom Landry is the exception), but, I always thought Turner was a good OC for them.  It doesn't hurt when you have talent, but, I thought he designed a good scheme and game plan.  He's totally lost me with the Vikes this tear though.  Granted, it's not Aikman, Irvin and Smith, but, Cordarrelle Patterson, Jerick McKinon and Teddy Bridgewater should be growing together and I just don't see it.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on November 06, 2014, 08:38:27 PM
  He's totally lost me with the Vikes this tear though. 

the subconscious leaking through.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on November 06, 2014, 10:13:23 PM
Typing too fast and not proofreading. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Arctic Blast on November 07, 2014, 02:00:17 PM
Far be it for me to defend anyone associated, past, present, or future, with the Dallas Cowboys (tom Landry is the exception), but, I always thought Turner was a good OC for them.  It doesn't hurt when you have talent, but, I thought he designed a good scheme and game plan.  He's totally lost me with the Vikes this tear though.  Granted, it's not Aikman, Irvin and Smith, but, Cordarrelle Patterson, Jerick McKinon and Teddy Bridgewater should be growing together and I just don't see it.

I actually don't think Patterson is that good. He seems to be just another version of a receiver drafted because "OHMYGOD, WHAT AN ATHLETE!", but he doesn't have a clue when it comes to things like running pass routes, catching the ball over his shoulder, or knowing how to work himself open. So the only time he gets the ball is when the offense draws up a gimmick play that the clueless oaf is actually capable of doing most of the time. See also : Austin, Tavon.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on November 07, 2014, 02:13:00 PM
NC State made Patterson a first-round pick when he torched David Amerson in the opening night game the year after Amerson was a first-team All-American for intercepting 18 passes or something crazy.  NC State took a pretty good defense and revamped the entire scheme, and Amerson was left on an island all night against a guy that had 6 inches on him, and got hosed with no safety help over the top.  Patterson laughed all the way to 200+ yards in that one game and a first-round pick.  Amerson is playing for the Redskins, but like the rest of their roster, doesn't admit it in public if he can help it.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on November 10, 2014, 12:15:04 PM
Thank you NY Jets for beating the Steelers.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on November 10, 2014, 01:28:56 PM
ROFL! 


"Bears Coach Entire Halftime Speech Consists Of 15 Minute Long “F***" (http://profootballmock.com/bears-coach-entire-halftime-speech-consists-of-15-minute-long-swear/)




Thank you NY Jets for beating the Steelers.

Are we sure that really happened?  I thought I'd somehow accidentally transported to an alternate universe or something when I woke up yesterday evening and saw the score.  :o 

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: endfire79 on November 10, 2014, 03:45:58 PM
Wow Bears made cowboys look good
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Marty Ward on November 10, 2014, 04:03:09 PM
WTF was that blocked punt in the Packers game? I have NEVER seen a punt blocked before the ball even gets to the punters foot.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on November 10, 2014, 04:05:47 PM
Anyone hear about Orlando Thomas passing away today, due to ALS?

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11851971/orlando-thomas-former-minnesota-vikings-player-dies-42
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on November 10, 2014, 06:10:22 PM
wow -hadn't heard that
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on November 11, 2014, 01:00:32 AM
Shit, I read this right when I got up tonight.  Sad news.  :( 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on November 11, 2014, 08:00:04 AM
http://online.wsj.com/articles/are-you-watching-too-much-football-1415579983

Quote
Which of the following have you done because of a football game on TV?

A. I missed an airplane.

B. I missed a wedding.
 
C. I missed my wedding.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on November 11, 2014, 08:07:08 AM
Every year in the off-season, I miss football and look forward to it starting again.

Every year when the season starts, the Texans do something early on to blow it, so I lose interest. (I become a RAGE-oholic when the Texans screw up, and God knows that's all they have done for 10+ years now; I do not need more anger in my life, so I purposefully stop watching to avoid that.)

As I stop watching, my interest wanes, and I end up most of the time forgetting that there's football on television.

The playoffs appear and I go, "Oh, yeah...who cares, those teams are YAAWWWNN..."

The Super Bowl rolls around and I ignore the first six hours of BS press hype coverage. I watch a quarter, tops, and get bored and think, "I could be playing a game," and go do that instead.

Admittedly my football passions were HUGE before I was married and were strong in the first 10 years or so, but that all waned. Not due to her - but due to the fact that all my buddies were in San Antonio and scattered to the four winds soon after I left. I've been in Houston 20+ years and know exactly nobody to hang out with and watch games. That would go a long way to restoring my passions, but without anyone to share that with...I'm pretty meh on football now.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on November 11, 2014, 09:17:29 AM
Berman channeling his inner Mike

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on November 11, 2014, 09:41:29 AM
http://online.wsj.com/articles/are-you-watching-too-much-football-1415579983

Quote
Which of the following have you done because of a football game on TV?

A. I missed an airplane.

B. I missed a wedding.
 
C. I missed my wedding.

An interesting article...and a surprising one. 


I didn't realize our country had apparently become *that* obsessed with the sport.  Because the following bit still describes my football viewing habits: 

Quote
you paid attention to your team and the teams in your division and maaayyybe the better teams in your conference and a few of the Big Important Games in the other conference, but mostly it was an internal battle between you and your own miserable birthright team

Perhaps I'm in the minority, but my football TV routine is pretty much the same now as it was 15 years ago.  The main difference is who I watch it with (which is usually nobody these days, since my pals moved out of their house earlier this year and scattered to the four winds :( ). 



Don't get me wrong:  I will cheerfully admit to a strong -- and probably irrational -- love of football.  I enjoy watching during the season (even when my Viqueens suck harder than an Amsterdam prostitute), I miss it terribly during the off-season, and I welcome Opening Weekend with far more joy than is probably warranted. 

But even I cannot fathom an obsession with the game to the extent described in the article.  That is simply beyond my comprehension.  ??? 

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on November 12, 2014, 06:05:02 AM
Latest rankings for CFP.

Oregon jumped ahead of FSU.  Alabama out of the top 4.  ND down to 18.

1   Mississippi State   9-0
2   Oregon   9-1
3   Florida State   9-0
4   TCU   8-1
5   Alabama   8-1
6   Arizona State   8-1
7   Baylor   8-1
8   Ohio State   8-1
9   Auburn   7-2
10   Ole Miss   8-2
11   UCLA   8-2
12   Michigan State   7-2
13   Kansas State   7-2
14   Arizona   7-2
15   Georgia   7-2
16   Nebraska   8-1
17   LSU   7-3
18   Notre Dame   7-2
19   Clemson   7-2
20   Wisconsin   7-2
21   Duke   8-1
22   Georgia Tech   8-2
23   Utah   6-3
24   Texas A&M   7-3
25   Minnesota   7-2
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on November 12, 2014, 07:13:59 AM
Duke is still being under-rated...  Hard to believe I'd say that about a football team.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on November 13, 2014, 03:54:53 PM
How did UCLA jump from 18 to 11.  They beat an unranked Washington.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on November 14, 2014, 12:04:28 AM
its Cali, they mugged someone.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on November 15, 2014, 11:56:07 AM
So bizarre to see Minnesota rated in the Top 25 for anything other than hockey and wrestling (or occasionally basketball).  :o 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on November 15, 2014, 06:51:37 PM
tomorrow should be a good shit show between the Queens and the Bears.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on November 15, 2014, 09:07:17 PM
I'm looking forward to Lions v Cardinals.  Nobody is talking about it, but the NFC Championship game could be a rematch of this contest.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on November 16, 2014, 10:37:57 AM
So bizarre to see Minnesota rated in the Top 25 for anything other than hockey and wrestling (or occasionally basketball).  :o

Well it was nice it lasted.  At least they didn't get blown out.  Considering how the Gophers have done the last umpteen seasons, losing to Ohio State by just seven points ain't half-bad...and being 7-3 is still a minor miracle for them. 




tomorrow should be a good shit show between the Queens and the Bears.

It's like that that joke about Red Shirts vs. Stormtroopers:  The Stormtrooper fires at the Redshirt and misses; the Redshirt falls over and dies anyway.  ::) 




I'm looking forward to Lions v Cardinals.  Nobody is talking about it, but the NFC Championship game could be a rematch of this contest.

That there's a serious possibility of either of these teams going to the Super Bowl automatically triggers the Twilight Zone music to start playing in my head... 

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on November 16, 2014, 11:10:07 AM
Am confused.  Why is the Vikes-Bears game on CBS (instead of FOX)?  I thought they covered only AFC teams.  ??? 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on November 16, 2014, 11:33:19 AM
HA!!  Fake punt to set up the TD!  Woot! 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on November 16, 2014, 11:35:17 AM
Sucka duck.  :knuppel2:
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on November 16, 2014, 11:47:40 AM
...And J.J. Watt just caught a touchdown pass for the Texans.  Man, this cat can do anything. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on November 16, 2014, 12:50:07 PM
Am confused.  Why is the Vikes-Bears game on CBS (instead of FOX)?  I thought they covered only AFC teams.  ??? 

Latest TV contracts allow for some crossover between conferences during the season
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on November 16, 2014, 02:23:31 PM
...And the Viqueens return to their usual form.  ::)  It was fun while it lasted. 




Am confused.  Why is the Vikes-Bears game on CBS (instead of FOX)?  I thought they covered only AFC teams.  ??? 

Latest TV contracts allow for some crossover between conferences during the season

Thanks Brant.  Was not aware of that til now. 

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Arctic Blast on November 16, 2014, 02:25:10 PM
Yeah, the Vikings plan of matching up one on one with 5 foot 9 corners against 6 foot 4 receivers was...interesting.

Could be worse, you could be cheering for the Redskins. When your fan base is actually calling for Colt McCoy, your team is a steaming pile.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Arctic Blast on November 16, 2014, 02:31:30 PM
The Packers are wearing their throwbacks. They look like the result of a drunken equipment manager assembling random items together and deciding they form a uniform.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on November 16, 2014, 02:35:00 PM
The Packers are wearing their throwbacks. They look like the result of a drunken equipment manager assembling random items together and deciding they form a uniform.

The Packers playing the Steelers with both wearing their throwback unis would induce vomiting.....
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on November 16, 2014, 04:02:55 PM
Agreed.  And aren't those Packer uniforms actually Michigan Wolverine colors?
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on November 16, 2014, 04:33:32 PM
Agreed.  And aren't those Packer uniforms actually Michigan Wolverine colors?

Dunno, I don't follow anything north of the Mason-Dixon line  8)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on November 16, 2014, 07:12:18 PM
Not sure The Pack is worried about the uniform while they destroy the Eagles.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on November 16, 2014, 07:31:45 PM
Not sure The Pack is worried about the uniform while they destroy the Eagles.

I can't wait to hear the gnashing of teeth and lamentations from the insufferable Philly talk radio station I listen to in the morning. The morning dj is truly insufferable. I look forward to his pain.....
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on November 16, 2014, 08:03:24 PM
DA BEARS!!!
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on November 16, 2014, 08:07:12 PM
Until today, the Chicago Blackhawks had as many wins in Chicago Stadium as the Bears in 2014.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on November 16, 2014, 08:49:20 PM
Not sure The Pack is worried about the uniform while they destroy the Eagles.

I can't wait to hear the gnashing of teeth and lamentations from the insufferable Philly talk radio station I listen to in the morning. The morning dj is truly insufferable. I look forward to his pain.....

You should have plenty to look forward to. That was a lot of pain. I felt a little bad for Dirty Sanchez. Just a little.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on November 18, 2014, 07:38:10 AM
Adrian Peterson suspended for the rest of the season:  http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2201694-adrian-peterson-suspended-latest-details-comments-and-reaction
will surely be appealed


Josh Gordon reinstated: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2270555-josh-gordon-reinstated-latest-details-comments-and-reaction-on-browns-wr
Suddenly, smoking dope doesn't look so bad anymore, huh?
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on November 18, 2014, 07:52:35 AM
Oh, AP will definitely be back in the NFL. There's too much money to be made off his ability, still. If not this year then certainly next year.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on November 18, 2014, 08:27:20 AM
Oh boy...  :-\ 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: airboy on November 18, 2014, 02:15:54 PM
Auburn got clobbered by Georgia in Athens.

But, it was a fun football season for me.  Lots of fun tailgates with great food.  The Auburn merchants were happy that AUs collapse occured on the last important home game.  I sold my extra tickets at close to the top of the market.

On to basketball season.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on November 18, 2014, 06:01:09 PM
Auburn got clobbered by Georgia in Athens.

But, it was a fun football season for me.  Lots of fun tailgates with great food.  The Auburn merchants were happy that AUs collapse occured on the last important home game.  I sold my extra tickets at close to the top of the market.

On to basketball season.

So, you's saying that Bama will take the Iron Bowl.  I thought the War Eagle faithful would consider it a successful season if they tripped up the Tide at the end of the season and spoiled their national championship hopes. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on November 19, 2014, 05:38:44 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10394123_1493665874249140_6046501278210544827_n.jpg?oh=26235d3408e714fd277eb80b137282b1&oe=551367CC&__gda__=1423684083_cd972af8d3e59289cb4c23d926236333)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on November 19, 2014, 10:25:19 AM
Huh.  I guess losing by 7 points to the Buckeyes was still a (barely) good enough showing for the Gophers to hang on to the Top 25 with their fingernails.  Who knew? 




(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10394123_1493665874249140_6046501278210544827_n.jpg?oh=26235d3408e714fd277eb80b137282b1&oe=551367CC&__gda__=1423684083_cd972af8d3e59289cb4c23d926236333)

Not me.  I laughed.  ;D 

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Arctic Blast on November 19, 2014, 08:36:51 PM
Anyone else enjoying the Saints crapping the bed this year? I can't stand that franchise, largely because of Sean Payton. Anyone who constantly wears a goddamn visor deserves misery, particularly when he seems to be quite the douchebag in general.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Marty Ward on November 20, 2014, 06:09:59 AM
Anyone else enjoying the Saints crapping the bed this year? I can't stand that franchise, largely because of Sean Payton. Anyone who constantly wears a goddamn visor deserves misery, particularly when he seems to be quite the douchebag in general.

I like Brees and the Saints but I hope they keep up the crapping for one more week. After that they can turn into the '72 Dolphins for all I care.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on November 20, 2014, 01:38:32 PM
Anyone else enjoying the Saints crapping the bed this year? I can't stand that franchise, largely because of Sean Payton. Anyone who constantly wears a goddamn visor deserves misery, particularly when he seems to be quite the douchebag in general.

Nope, I've been loving the Saints' downhill slide as well.  It's been one of my few joys this season. 

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on November 20, 2014, 01:53:43 PM
Anyone else enjoying the Saints crapping the bed this year? I can't stand that franchise, largely because of Sean Payton. Anyone who constantly wears a goddamn visor deserves misery, particularly when he seems to be quite the douchebag in general.

Nope, I've been loving the Saints' downhill slide as well.  It's been one of my few joys this season. 

fuck both of y'all!



says the guy whose family is from southern Louisiana...
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on November 20, 2014, 07:49:08 PM
I'm going to have to agree with Brant on this one.  Been a Saints fan since the early 80's.  Bucs, too.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on November 20, 2014, 07:53:48 PM
I'm going to have to agree with Brant on this one.  Been a Saints fan since the early 80's.  Bucs, too.

You also watched Saved by the Bell didn't you?
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on November 20, 2014, 08:00:45 PM
I figured him more for a Full House fan.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on November 20, 2014, 08:15:59 PM
Both wrong.  Facts of Life.  There was something I had that I always wanted to give to Blair.  Or Tootie.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on November 20, 2014, 08:32:13 PM
Just as well. Mailing those man-stained tighty-whiteys probably would have gotten you in trouble, anyway.  :))
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: airboy on November 21, 2014, 08:44:35 AM
Successful College Football Season:
UNC 45 - Dook 20

UNC gets the victory bell!  Evil is smited once again!  Everything is once again right in the College Football World!
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on November 21, 2014, 09:04:03 AM
Everything is once again right in the College Football World!

Not quite - the Tar Heels still need to lose next weekend, then all will be right
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: airboy on November 21, 2014, 02:28:05 PM
Everything is once again right in the College Football World!

Not quite - the Tar Heels still need to lose next weekend, then all will be right

I don't hate NCSU. 

Not trying to needle you, but it seems NCSU has played one quality opponent well (Florida State), beaten a bunch of wimpy teams, and gotten thrashed by every middle to good team they have played.  UNC has had some quality wins, and also some horribly embarrasing games.  They also had some narrow losses to some good opponents (Notre Dame...).

What do you really think is going to happen?  My opinion - if UNC actually shows up they will win.  If the "bad UNC" team from the first half of the season shows up State will win big.   
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on November 21, 2014, 02:38:22 PM
Not trying to needle you, but it seems NCSU has played one quality opponent well (Florida State), beaten a bunch of wimpy teams, and gotten thrashed by every middle to good team they have played. 
Factual accuracy isn't needling me.  It's a young team full of redshirt freshmen on the two-deep who needed a bunch of gimme wins to get bowl eligible and pick up those extra two weeks of bowl practices to build towards next year.  It's not a good team.  There's some talent, but it's raw and still learning how to win.

What do you really think is going to happen?  My opinion - if UNC actually shows up they will win.  If the "bad UNC" team from the first half of the season shows up State will win big.   
If UNC's defense reverts to being UNC's defense of their other 10 games this year, they're in trouble.  Even if they play halfway competent, it'll be an uphill battle if State can run the ball.  The problem is whether or not State can run the ball.  They have to control the clock and not get into a shootout with UNC.  If State keeps UNC's offense off the field, they'll win with a game in the low 30s.  If they can't, they'll lose a game in the mid 50s.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on November 22, 2014, 07:03:16 AM
Hey MD - decent Tampa Bay article here

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2273380-scenes-from-a-doomed-marriage-lovie-smith-returns-to-chicago
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on November 22, 2014, 08:46:53 AM
Thanks, Brant.  I didn't understand the Lovie firing when it came down.  The Bears had mostly been in the hunt with him at the helm.  That's why I was glad when Tampa hired him.  That, and his Dungy connection.  Can't stand that he brought McCown with him though.  I would much rather see Glennon under center.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on November 22, 2014, 11:16:21 AM
I would much rather see Glennon under center.

2 universities have had 3 graduates start games in the NFL this year

Michigan State (Hoyer, Stanton, Cousins)
NC State (Glennon, Rivers, Wilson)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Arctic Blast on November 23, 2014, 10:40:19 PM
The Giants lost, but Odell Beckham might have come down with the most ridiculous, athletic catch that I have ever seen.

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on November 24, 2014, 04:33:03 AM
I'll second that nomination :)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on November 24, 2014, 05:23:32 AM
Good catch, but all for naught since the Cowf&cks won.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Marty Ward on November 24, 2014, 04:49:58 PM
The Giants lost, but Odell Beckham might have come down with the most ridiculous, athletic catch that I have ever seen.



Hard to argue with that. It was unbelievable.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Centurion40 on November 28, 2014, 06:25:01 AM
I must say, it was a lot of fun watching the Eagles pummel the Cowboys... in Dallas!!  :)  O0

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on November 28, 2014, 07:34:27 AM
It's December or close enough.   Time for the annual romo and cowboys collapse.   The got beat beat by mark Sanchez which is hilarious.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on November 28, 2014, 08:10:07 AM
It's nice to see Dirty Sanchez back in the spotlight.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Airborne Rifles on November 28, 2014, 04:56:17 PM
I had to laugh when I heard one comentator say that the Jets could really use a half way decent quarterback...someone like a Mark Sanchez  ;D
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on November 29, 2014, 01:29:34 PM
Not a good day for UNC's collection of guys pretending to be a football team.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on November 29, 2014, 01:45:48 PM
OSU looked a little rough, but still put 42, one being a fumble recovery and return. 

The worst part is JT Barrett went out on a cart with a leg injury early in the 4th. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on November 29, 2014, 05:27:04 PM
#4 Miss St goes down by 14 to #19 Ole Miss.

#2 FSU get by Florida by 5, at home.

Things are starting to get interesting.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on November 29, 2014, 10:44:08 PM
RAMMER

JAMMER

YELLOW

HAMMER!!

ROLL

TIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on November 29, 2014, 11:21:55 PM
yellow hammer?

do you have jaundice?
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on November 30, 2014, 05:39:23 AM
It's a bird.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on November 30, 2014, 07:00:20 AM
In other news, the ACC swept all their games with the SEC yesterday.
But that's OK, FSU's got a week schedule because they only play in the ACC...
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on November 30, 2014, 08:07:57 AM
Who did the ACC beat?  South Carolina?  That's not a major feat.  I'll give you Georgia, but, it was to the Yellow Jackets gimmick offense.  Put your best team, FSU at the moment, in the SEC West and see what happens.  They won't be undefeated.  And Danny Kanell would HAVE to acknowledge that the SEC might be, "kinda," good.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on November 30, 2014, 08:24:58 AM
I cannot even think of one good SEC team outside of the Rutgers Scarlett Knights.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on November 30, 2014, 09:10:14 AM
Really?  That was weak.  Come strong or stay home.  Which is what one of those conferences that can't count to ten or even have a championship game are going to do.  Stay home.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on November 30, 2014, 09:23:30 AM
Who did the ACC beat?  South Carolina?  That's not a major feat.  I'll give you Georgia, but, it was to the Yellow Jackets gimmick offense.  Put your best team, FSU at the moment, in the SEC West and see what happens.  They won't be undefeated.  And Danny Kanell would HAVE to acknowledge that the SEC might be, "kinda," good.

Not the point. 

"SEC über alles" has been the chant all year long.

Well, the SEC just laid a fat goose-egg to the ACC, who has 5 teams with 9 wins or more (note, Big 1014 has 4) and other than the 4 teams from AL/MS, the SEC has been pretty underwhelming, which is tough for this LSU fan to say.  You don't get to deal and scream about SEC supremacy, and then when half the conference shits the bed suddenly revise it to "oh, wait, we just meant the west, not the whole thing."

Sorry that half of your conference is an embarrassment of mediocre parity (cough*ACCCoastal*cough) but either your conference is good or it's not.  And FSU has been hammered all year for "playing no one" but they didn't know Okie St was going to regress to their historical mean, or that Notre Dame was going to tank the rest of their season like they thought there were draft picks at stake, or that UF was going to try to get Muschamp fired.  When that schedule was made 4 years ago, a non-conference lineup of ND/OKSt/UF looked pretty good (and they have no say on UF anyway). 

It's not like Mizzou (who could still win the SEC) has set the world on fire.  They're a less-gimmicky GT, who beat up on a soft half of a conference and might could still have a BIG say in who goes into the playoff, even if they don't.  But UGA was supposed to be the bomb-shizzle, and so was USC (the real one), and so was LSU.  Meanwhile, Clemson and Louisville have both won the 9 games they were expected to win.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on November 30, 2014, 10:21:52 AM
Really?  That was weak.  Come strong or stay home.  Which is what one of those conferences that can't count to ten or even have a championship game are going to do.  Stay home.

Fine.  The Tide get beat in the playoffs by TCU.  Suck it.   :-X
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on November 30, 2014, 10:53:32 AM
Nebraska fired their coach, Bo Pelini, this morning.  I figure we should hear from Michigan today or tomorrow on whether or not Brady Hoke is staying. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on November 30, 2014, 10:56:17 AM
Nebraska fired their coach, Bo Pelini, this morning.  I figure we should hear from Michigan today or tomorrow on whether or not Brady Hoke is staying.

I don't get the Nebraska firing.  Pelini was putting together a pretty solid program after a decade of being pretty horrible.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on November 30, 2014, 11:07:15 AM
I hope they have someone lined up already.  I can see this turning into a long drawn out process that blows up in their faces.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11958376/nebraska-cornhuskers-fire-bo-pelini (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11958376/nebraska-cornhuskers-fire-bo-pelini)

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Pelini improved to 67-27 as Nebraska's coach on Friday with a 37-34 overtime win at Iowa. The victory pushed Pelini's win total past Tom Osborne for the most ever at the school in a coach's first seven years.

Bo Pelini, who was 67-27 as Nebraska's coach, was fired Sunday.
In fact, no coach in the history of a Power 5 program had been fired for on-field performance after winning as many games in his first seven years. Only Alabama and Oregon -- first and second this week in the College Football Playoff rankings -- can match the Huskers in winning nine games each year since 2008.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on November 30, 2014, 11:08:29 AM
Really?  That was weak.  Come strong or stay home.  Which is what one of those conferences that can't count to ten or even have a championship game are going to do.  Stay home.

Fine.  The Tide get beat in the playoffs by TCU.  Suck it.   :-X


Sour grapes :P


Who did the ACC beat?  South Carolina?  That's not a major feat.  I'll give you Georgia, but, it was to the Yellow Jackets gimmick offense.  Put your best team, FSU at the moment, in the SEC West and see what happens.  They won't be undefeated.  And Danny Kanell would HAVE to acknowledge that the SEC might be, "kinda," good.

Not the point. 

"SEC über alles" has been the chant all year long.

Well, the SEC just laid a fat goose-egg to the ACC, who has 5 teams with 9 wins or more (note, Big 1014 has 4) and other than the 4 teams from AL/MS, the SEC has been pretty underwhelming, which is tough for this LSU fan to say.  You don't get to deal and scream about SEC supremacy, and then when half the conference shits the bed suddenly revise it to "oh, wait, we just meant the west, not the whole thing."

Sorry that half of your conference is an embarrassment of mediocre parity (cough*ACCCoastal*cough) but either your conference is good or it's not.  And FSU has been hammered all year for "playing no one" but they didn't know Okie St was going to regress to their historical mean, or that Notre Dame was going to tank the rest of their season like they thought there were draft picks at stake, or that UF was going to try to get Muschamp fired.  When that schedule was made 4 years ago, a non-conference lineup of ND/OKSt/UF looked pretty good (and they have no say on UF anyway). 

It's not like Mizzou (who could still win the SEC) has set the world on fire.  They're a less-gimmicky GT, who beat up on a soft half of a conference and might could still have a BIG say in who goes into the playoff, even if they don't.  But UGA was supposed to be the bomb-shizzle, and so was USC (the real one), and so was LSU.  Meanwhile, Clemson and Louisville have both won the 9 games they were expected to win.

I agree with the scheduling argument.  You can't know in advance, whether it's next season or four years down the road, who is going to continue to be good.  And I'll give you that the SEC East doesn't contain any world beaters.  But you can only play the schedule in front of you, for good or bad.  And what I see, for all their faults, is a conference that has twelve Bowl eligible teams.  Once the Bowl season is over, we'll see who has the most wins, and against who.  Unless you would like to use some other determinating factor to make your argument.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: airboy on November 30, 2014, 11:13:46 AM
RAMMER

JAMMER

YELLOW

HAMMER!!

ROLL

TIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Happy much?

Shame that AU does not have even an average SEC level defense.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: airboy on November 30, 2014, 11:18:11 AM
In other news, the ACC swept all their games with the SEC yesterday.
But that's OK, FSU's got a week schedule because they only play in the ACC...

Georgia Tech beating Georgia was a biggie.
SC losing to Clemson was not that great.  SC has gotten pounded by the SEC West.

But two very weak SEC East teams (Kentucky and Florida) almost knocked off the top of the ACC (FSU and Louisville).   So I'm not so sure that this proves your point.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on November 30, 2014, 11:33:15 AM
Win.  The.  Game.

Doesn't matter how close.  Just win, baby.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on November 30, 2014, 12:31:24 PM
Ok.  So, bowl wins decides who's best?  And no bitching if your guys don't make more bowls than the other guys.  What was that you said, "Win.  The. Game.?"  Let's go with that.


Sorry, Airboy.  That was more directed at the SEC haters here.  Although, it was a LITTLE bit about winning the Iron Bowl ;)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on November 30, 2014, 12:32:27 PM
I watch the FSU game in horror last night as the Gators play calling at the end was just absurd and good grief if the place kicker could have just knocked in one of the two last FGs...what might have been.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on November 30, 2014, 01:41:55 PM
Ok.  So, bowl wins decides who's best?  And no bitching if your guys don't make more bowls than the other guys.  What was that you said, "Win.  The. Game.?"  Let's go with that.


Sorry, Airboy.  That was more directed at the SEC haters here.  Although, it was a LITTLE bit about winning the Iron Bowl ;)

Hey, I'm not an SEC hater.  Remember that after NC State, my next loyalty is LSU.  I'm a realist, though.  The SEC was pretty unbalanced this year, as was the ACC.  But the ACC still has 11 bowl teams (Wake, Syracuse, UVA not going) and by the end of it all, FSU could have a 'hit list' of 5 teams with 10 wins each.  Everyone has been bagging on FSU for a weak conference, but they just went 4-0 against everyone's favorite conference last weekend.

All that said - I don't know who's going to beat 'Bama in a playoff.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on November 30, 2014, 05:13:17 PM
Sad ending to this story.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11960455/kosta-karageorge-ohio-state-buckeyes-found-dead (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11960455/kosta-karageorge-ohio-state-buckeyes-found-dead)

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OLUMBUS, Ohio -- The body of missing Ohio State defensive lineman Kosta Karageorge was found by Columbus police on Sunday after a search that started after he went missing on Wednesday.

Karageorge, 22, was found dead in a dumpster of an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound. He was identified by tattoos at the scene, and a police spokesman said the investigation would continue with both the dumpster and the body of Karageorge being transported to the county morgue.

More at the link. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on November 30, 2014, 05:53:18 PM
I just read a story about Kargeorge's apparent suicide.  Just a real tragedy.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 01, 2014, 08:27:16 AM
Everything that's right with football

http://extras.denverpost.com/everythingmatters/

f'n' allergies...



warning: it's a long read.  you won't be disappointed
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on December 01, 2014, 07:27:00 PM
Outstanding!  Hooray for Coach Jajczyk!  Hooray for his players!  And hooray for Adams City!!
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on December 01, 2014, 08:04:14 PM
this is a shit show of a game for the Dolphins.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on December 02, 2014, 05:16:08 AM
Yeah, but they're 7-5 now. An ugly 7-5, but still.

Damn Texans are playing like a 2-10 Jets team but managing to eke out the 6-6 record is a bit shocking. People here are nuts talking about playoffs - they'll have more chance of hitting the lottery than winning a wild card game, but stranger things have happened I guess.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on December 02, 2014, 12:33:34 PM
Vikings win, Cowboys and Patriots both lose.  Not a bad weekend. 



On the other hand, the Steelers lost to the fucking Saints, plus I was actually rooting for the Packers yesterday.  I felt dirty. 

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on December 02, 2014, 03:32:44 PM
Id rather the pats lose then any of my teams win.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on December 05, 2014, 03:44:38 PM
Id rather the pats lose then any of my teams win.

Well as a Dolphins fan, it's more likely you'll get a Patriots loss.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on December 05, 2014, 04:04:43 PM
beat em once already this year.  O0
52 to 46 going back to 1966 actually.
so shut your whore mouth.  ;D
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on December 05, 2014, 06:25:57 PM
Bring back the days of Marino and the Marks brothers  :'(
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on December 06, 2014, 10:58:23 AM
And in other news, Gus' Junk-jets meet my Viqueens in a "Could this possibly matter any less at this point?" match-up tomorrow...  :-\ 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 06, 2014, 12:07:03 PM
And in other news, Gus' Junk-jets meet my Viqueens in a "Could this possibly matter any less at this point?" match-up tomorrow...  :-\ 

and that's why American sports need promotion/relegation.  If the loser spends next year in the minor leagues until they earn their way back, suddenly they give a shit about trying to win a late season game against another crappy team
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on December 07, 2014, 06:18:00 AM
Well I think TCU or Baylor deserves to be in the playoffs, but my early prediction is that the four teams will be Alabama, Oregon, Ohio State, and Florida State.  Frankly FSU doesn't deserve it, but how do you not let an undefeated defending champion no play to defend their title.

I'd like to see the NCAA drop a few regular season games and expand the playoffs.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 07, 2014, 06:27:13 AM
Frankly FSU doesn't deserve it, but how do you not let an undefeated defending champion no play to defend their title.

They're the only team in the top 25 to play all FBS-level opponents.  No I-AA teams on their schedule.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on December 07, 2014, 06:37:20 AM
They're the only team in the top 25 to play all FBS-level opponents.  No I-AA teams on their schedule.

The Citadal is FCS team.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on December 07, 2014, 07:12:52 AM
Frankly FSU doesn't deserve it, but how do you not let an undefeated defending champion no play to defend their title.

They're the only team in the top 25 to play all FBS-level opponents.  No I-AA teams on their schedule.

Which non FBS-level team did Ohio State play this year.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on December 07, 2014, 07:18:59 AM
Well I think TCU or Baylor deserves to be in the playoffs, but my early prediction is that the four teams will be Alabama, Oregon, Ohio State, and Florida State.  Frankly FSU doesn't deserve it, but how do you not let an undefeated defending champion no play to defend their title.

I'd like to see the NCAA drop a few regular season games and expand the playoffs.

I think they only need to expand it to eight teams.  The conference champions from the power 5 conferences and three at large.  That would add one week.  This should be easy to do.  The first round games are played 1 Jan. and the championship game is played on the 12th.  The time is there to play a third round. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 07, 2014, 07:28:18 AM
Frankly FSU doesn't deserve it, but how do you not let an undefeated defending champion no play to defend their title.

They're the only team in the top 25 to play all FBS-level opponents.  No I-AA teams on their schedule.

Which non FBS-level team did Ohio State play this year.

I mis-spoke - I didn't hear it right on the radio earlier.

FSU is the only team to beat 12 power-5 teams.  They did play an FCS team, but other than that 1, they only played power 5 teams.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on December 07, 2014, 07:36:40 AM
Frankly FSU doesn't deserve it, but how do you not let an undefeated defending champion no play to defend their title.

They're the only team in the top 25 to play all FBS-level opponents.  No I-AA teams on their schedule.

Which non FBS-level team did Ohio State play this year.

I mis-spoke - I didn't hear it right on the radio earlier.

FSU is the only team to beat 12 power-5 teams.  They did play an FCS team, but other than that 1, they only played power 5 teams.

No problems.  I'm glad I'm not the only one that does that :)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 07, 2014, 07:46:21 AM
I think they only need to expand it to eight teams.  The conference champions from the power 5 conferences and three at large.  That would add one week.  This should be easy to do.  The first round games are played 1 Jan. and the championship game is played on the 12th.  The time is there to play a third round. 

In what universe - ever - did the #7 team in any college football season have the remotest claim on "we should play for the title?"

You'd rather have an 8-5 conference champ (like UConn back in 2010) in the tournament?
Or how about a 9-3 Va Tech team (ACC 2008)
What claim did the 2012 Wisconsin Badgers have on a playoff berth, when rolling through the Big 10 er... 14, at a devastating 8-4?
10-3 K-State (Big XII, 2003)?
9-3 Nebraska (Big XII, 2006)?
9-2 Georgia (SEC, 2005)?
8-3 LSU (SEC, 2001)?

I agree that conference championships should mean something.  But let's face it, there have been some real stinkers of conference champs out there, and there's no way they should get in.

For 90 years, we argued over who was #1
For the past 16 years, we argued over who was #1 and #2
Now we're arguing over who is #s 1-4
Do you *really* think you're going to get any more precision arguing over #s 1-8?

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on December 07, 2014, 09:22:11 AM
Yes.
I think they only need to expand it to eight teams.  The conference champions from the power 5 conferences and three at large.  That would add one week.  This should be easy to do.  The first round games are played 1 Jan. and the championship game is played on the 12th.  The time is there to play a third round. 

In what universe - ever - did the #7 team in any college football season have the remotest claim on "we should play for the title?"

You'd rather have an 8-5 conference champ (like UConn back in 2010) in the tournament?
Or how about a 9-3 Va Tech team (ACC 2008)
What claim did the 2012 Wisconsin Badgers have on a playoff berth, when rolling through the Big 10 er... 14, at a devastating 8-4?
10-3 K-State (Big XII, 2003)?
9-3 Nebraska (Big XII, 2006)?
9-2 Georgia (SEC, 2005)?
8-3 LSU (SEC, 2001)?

I agree that conference championships should mean something.  But let's face it, there have been some real stinkers of conference champs out there, and there's no way they should get in.

For 90 years, we argued over who was #1
For the past 16 years, we argued over who was #1 and #2
Now we're arguing over who is #s 1-4
Do you *really* think you're going to get any more precision arguing over #s 1-8?



Yes.  And it'd end all the this conference is better b.s.   
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on December 07, 2014, 12:50:04 PM
That was a bullshit called fumble by the refs.  Patterson does need to learn to hold on to the ball better, though. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on December 07, 2014, 01:44:18 PM
I think they only need to expand it to eight teams.  The conference champions from the power 5 conferences and three at large.  That would add one week.  This should be easy to do.  The first round games are played 1 Jan. and the championship game is played on the 12th.  The time is there to play a third round. 

In what universe - ever - did the #7 team in any college football season have the remotest claim on "we should play for the title?"

You'd rather have an 8-5 conference champ (like UConn back in 2010) in the tournament?
Or how about a 9-3 Va Tech team (ACC 2008)
What claim did the 2012 Wisconsin Badgers have on a playoff berth, when rolling through the Big 10 er... 14, at a devastating 8-4?
10-3 K-State (Big XII, 2003)?
9-3 Nebraska (Big XII, 2006)?
9-2 Georgia (SEC, 2005)?
8-3 LSU (SEC, 2001)?

I agree that conference championships should mean something.  But let's face it, there have been some real stinkers of conference champs out there, and there's no way they should get in.

For 90 years, we argued over who was #1
For the past 16 years, we argued over who was #1 and #2
Now we're arguing over who is #s 1-4
Do you *really* think you're going to get any more precision arguing over #s 1-8?

Your right.  Why would we ever think that the 8th ranked team would ever have a chance of betting the first ranked team.


Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 07, 2014, 01:59:41 PM
The question isn't "can they"

It's "should they even have a chance to"

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on December 07, 2014, 02:21:59 PM
I think the NCAA basketball tourney really proves the greatness that is American college sports.  On any given day...
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on December 07, 2014, 02:23:09 PM
Ha!  Well that was an unexpected ending.  I actually thought the Jets were going to pull it off there. 

Sorry Gus
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 07, 2014, 02:24:13 PM
I think the NCAA basketball tourney really proves the greatness that is American college sports.  On any given day...

Without hitting Wikipedia, who was the best team in baseball in 2001...
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on December 07, 2014, 02:26:09 PM
The question isn't "can they"

It's "should they even have a chance to"

As soon as you think they can, then they will deserve a chance.

Given the rankings that were announced today, do you think either Baylor or TCU deserved a shot.  If only four teams are selected, who should one of those two replaced.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on December 07, 2014, 02:37:51 PM
I think the NCAA basketball tourney really proves the greatness that is American college sports.  On any given day...

Without hitting Wikipedia, who was the best team in baseball in 2001...

College?  Probably LSU.  That isn't the point.  The point is how many of the best as ranked by a poll teams have actually won the basketball tourney?  If the polls are the end all be all then why even have a championship game or a tourney?  I don't recall the pre-BCS days being any more definitive as to which is the best team.  Also you have the Big 12 who have two one loss teams in the top 6 and not a single team in the playoffs?  Lame.  OSU was on the outside looking in prior to yesterday.  TCU as in and did what it needed to do to maintain it's #3 rank.  In the end, I think the OSU selection was a fill the stadium selection that really screwed TCU over.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on December 07, 2014, 02:41:25 PM
Also look at the FCS playoffs.  Great games.  Yesterday NDSU the most dominate team in the FCS for the last 4 or so years almost lost at home to an underdog.  That is the playoff drama the "smart" guys at the big schools don't get.  Entertainment and excitement.  If this is the way they want it, the NCAA just needs to establish 4 conferences and that's it.  Everyone else goes away or to the FCS.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on December 07, 2014, 02:49:59 PM
Also you have the Big 12 who have two one loss teams in the top 6 and not a single team in the playoffs?  Lame.  OSU was on the outside looking in prior to yesterday.  TCU as in and did what it needed to do to maintain it's #3 rank.  In the end, I think the OSU selection was a fill the stadium selection that really screwed TCU over.

As a Buckeye fan, I cannot disagree with what you have said here.

Do you think the Big 12 is making phone calls today to get back up to 12 teams or are they going to sit around and have a pity party for themselves.  I think not having a championship game and a clear winner really hurt them the most. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 07, 2014, 02:56:24 PM
College football is one of the last sports where the regular season actually mattered (until Alabama got a 2011 rematch with LSU).  The best teams in the regular season, on balance, tended to win their bowl games / titles, and there wasn't usually a ton of argument about who the better team was for any given season. 

1990 started to really change that when Colorado and GT split.  Colorado had lost a game, tied a game, and cheated to win another game, but the started the year in the top 5 and never really fell out of it.  Meanwhile, an undefeated GT team had to start from outside the top 25 and wasn't even ranked until they were 4-0.  If there's no poll until the first week of October, GT might've been top 5 to start with.
1991, UW and Miami split, and that was one of the few years there was legitimate controversy, since both were pretty dominant and deserving.  Under the BCS, they would've played each other instead of on different coasts in their bowl games.  More than any year, that was a key driver behind the creation of the BCS.

The next "controversy" was '93, when Notre Dame beat FSU head to head, but then lost the next week to BC, and FSU leaped them in the polls and ended up playing (and beating) Nebraska in the '93 title game.  Notre Domers still insist they belonged in that game ahead of FSU.  Maybe they did.  But neither one of them should've been there ahead of the undefeated Big East champion WV Mountaineers, who had wins over 4 top 25 9-win teams on their resume.

Enter the Bowl Alliance and then the BCS - who actually got it more right than wrong most years.  The biggest problem the BCS had was the fact that they continually changed the 'formula' every year.  Any time there was a "controversy" they'd start to juggle the formula, and what the public learned was that if you scream loud enough, then the BCS will change things for you.  Of course, what happened - people started yelling louder.  Suddenly we got bonus points for "quality wins" and somewhere along the way we dropped "opponents strength of schedule".  And while everyone pissed and moaned about including the computers, the truth was that they had to do it because the human polls couldn't/wouldn't agree on who was #1...  which is why you had split champions in 1997 and 2003, even with the Bowl Alliance / BCS in place.
(Interesting note - only 1 team ever beat 2 BCS game participants in a season without ever playing in a BCS bowl themselves.  Let's see if anyone gets the team/year right :) )
Even 2007, when 2-loss LSU beat Ohio State for the title, had some controversy, but not enough to derail the BCS.  Oklahoma had 2 losses and a case could've been made for putting OU into the game ahead of LSU.  LSU fans would've been disappointed but not mad - the case for OU was understandable.  The case for LSU was bolstered this way: quit looking at who you lost to, and focus on who you beat.  And no one had a non-conference victory anywhere in the country as dominant as LSU's 40-point curb-stomping of VT in Blacksburg (who would finish 11-3).

The real problem was in 2011, when "settle it on the field" became a complete joke.  Alabama got a rematch with LSU, after the game had already been settled on the field.  Pure resumes?  Oklahoma State absolutely belonged in the game ahead of Alabama.  They'd beaten better teams over the course of the season.  But that was when the "SEC mystique" was at its most potent, and Alabama got the benefit of the doubt, despite not having the on-field resume.  Just like 20 years earlier, there was a watershed controversy that kick-started the change in the 'playoff process'.

The truth is, a playoff is the worst way to determine who the best team in any given sport is.  Who was the best NFL team in 1998?  Who were the best MLB teams in 2001 or 1997?  Who was the best NFL team in 2007?  Best NBA team of 2004?  Who was the best hockey team in 1997 or 1995?  None of the best teams won the end-of-season tournament in any of those sports in those years.  In some of them, it wasn't even close.

Settle it on the field?  We just spend 14 weeks settling it on the field, and now you're going to make them "settle" it more? WTF did we just play 14 weeks for?

There is no year, anywhere, that you can find any case of anyone outside the top 4 having the slightest claim to being worthy of playing in the "national title game" for college football.  In very, very few instances can you find a case for #4 (like they year Utah was unbeaten).  There are a few more years where #3 might have an argument (2004 Auburn, 2007 OU, 1993 WVU) but more often than not, the top 2 teams are pretty clear-cut. 
Honestly, more often than not, the top team is pretty clear-cut, but we have this infatuation with bowl games and insist that someone prove it again and you get the occasional upset (2005 Texas over USC, or 1986 PSU over Miami) but more often than not you get games like 1999 when FSU shellacked VT and only Vick's semi-heroics even kept it respectable.  Or Nebraska drubbing Tennessee 42-17 in 1997.  Or the 2006 UF beatdown of Ohio State.

The BCS really did a pretty good job of getting the teams right, except for 2011.  But God help you if you're not fully drinking the playoff kook-aid in every sport in America.


The NCAA basketball analogy?  Who was the best basketball team in 1983?  1985?  1991?  It wasn't the team that won in any of those years.  In fact, in a one-and-done like the tournament, it's rarely a wire-to-wire winner.  Great, you won a tournament.  You couldn't accomplish jack-squat for the 4 months leading up to it, but you got hot at the right time, and happened to be the best team for 3 weeks.  Yay you.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 07, 2014, 02:58:14 PM
I think the NCAA basketball tourney really proves the greatness that is American college sports.  On any given day...

Without hitting Wikipedia, who was the best team in baseball in 2001...

College?  Probably LSU.  That isn't the point.

BASEball - MLB.  Not college, and not basketball.

Who was the best MLB team in 2001 (and it wasn't even close).
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on December 07, 2014, 03:15:10 PM
So Brant, what you're saying is that the team that everyone knows is the best gets beat during a playoff game, then maybe they really are not the best. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 07, 2014, 03:27:01 PM
No, what I'm saying is that there's no way a #8 team would be in the conversation.  It's rare that #4 even needs to be in the conversation.

If your argument is "let them settle it on the field" then screw the regular season, draw up a 128-team bracket and start playing knockout games on Labor Day weekend - last team standing wins.  All the upsets you could possibly want.  Why have conferences?  Why have a regular season?  Anyone can win the tournament if they get hot, so the hell with it, let's just have the tournament, and who gives a shit what's happened in the 4 months leading up to the tournament?  I mean, if the tournament - excuse me, the "playoff" - is all that matters, then just hold the tournament and dispense with the actual season altogether.

But it you're going to have a regular season, shouldn't it mean something?

Over half the NHL gets in.
Over half the NBA gets in.
We're trending that way in the NFL.
MLB had it pretty good, and the way they've added the Wild Cards have actually made it meaningful - the only example you could find of an expansion actually having a worthwhile contribution, but that's because of the unique way pitching plays into baseball over the other sports.
College football came down to a final 2.  We've doubled that - with absolutely no meaningful gain outside of the wallet.  And you guys want to double it again before we've even played with the 4 yet.

I reiterate - they've already had their chances for out-of-left-field upsets - we call it the "regular season".  Cheapening it by establishing some "everyone gets a ribbon" playoff doesn't make the selection of a tournament winner any more meaningful.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on December 07, 2014, 03:45:21 PM
There should be 4 16 team superconferences.  Play a fifteen game schedule, once against every team in your league, then a championship game and a 4 team tournament to determine a national champion.  And before anyone screams about, "They are STUDENT athletes!," let's all just agree to what is apparent, they are athletes brought to play games and bring millions to their schools.  Period.  If they get an education along the way, good on them.  Otherwise, do what you are there for and stay out of the REAL students way.

And the Yankees were the 'Best' team of 2001.  Damned Diamondbacks!!!
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 07, 2014, 03:52:38 PM
And the Yankees were the 'Best' team of 2001.  Damned Diamondbacks!!!


bzzzzzzzt   ---  not even close.  Like 20 games not even close
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on December 07, 2014, 04:05:06 PM
My mistake.  The Mariners won 116 that year.  The Yanks went to the World Series and Curt Schilling earned my enmity for the first time.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 07, 2014, 04:11:15 PM
as far as the teams actually in the playoff?

Not a huge fan of any of them, but...

I'd like to see 'Bama shellack Ohio State.  That's mostly due to my hate of Ohio State, but while Nick Saban comes across as evil to a lot of "my" people back in Louisiana, any time I've ever heard him talking about football, like the ESPN specials, he's really a solid, genuine dude who happens to be an excellent coach, so I don't mind seeing him win 1 game.

Other side?  I'd be fine with either, with this caveat:  if Oregon is going to be FSU, I want them to win the title so they finally get one.  Otherwise, I want FSU to win so it reflects better on the ACC.

And while I'd like to see a competitive and entertaining game in the Rose Bowl, I want 'Bama ahead by 45 at the half and looking for volunteers from the crowd to play linebacker just to keep it competitive.

So give me the FSU-Oregon winner over 'Bama in the final, and I'm happy :)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on December 07, 2014, 04:26:27 PM
To bad the Dolphins showed up today.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on December 07, 2014, 04:38:49 PM
I'm not getting your point honestly Brant.  (I do understand)  If we are just going off of Conference Championships, the playoffs should be 11 teams if you count the independents.  If every FBS conference doesn't hold weight, than the NCAA needs to tell them so and cut sling load.

The Big 12 needs to go to 12 teams now.  I don't think they have any choice, but who do they pick up and not get hit with "weak" teams in the conference.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on December 07, 2014, 04:44:07 PM
The Big 12 needs to go to 12 teams now.  I don't think they have any choice, but who do they pick up and not get hit with "weak" teams in the conference.

I think their best two options are Cincinnati and Boise State.  Both would bring respectable teams to the Big 12. I don't think they will be able to entice any Big 10, SEC, ACC or PAC 12 teams.  Especially if Texas is still giving the rest of the conference the finger. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on December 07, 2014, 05:23:30 PM
No need to play anymore games, it's already been figured out;

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/playoff-simulation-alabama-vs-oregon-for-national-title/ar-BBgt2yj

Quote
PredictionMachine.com's Director of Research and Analytics, John Ewing, takes a look at what the College Football Playoffs look like through 50,000 simulations of the four-team playoff. Follow John on Twitter @JohnEwing for more notes from his analysis and to let him know what else you may like to see with these projections.

Who's in? The question has been answered and the four-team playoff is set.

Alabama, Oregon, Florida State and Ohio State (just like we predicted in August) will participate in the first ever College Football Playoff.

Which team is the most likely champion and what are the odds each team wins the title?

How this works

The Predictalator uses current rosters and strength-of-schedule and efficiency-adjusted team and player stats (weighted slightly more toward recent games), to play every game 50,000 times before it's actually played. For this analysis, we are tracking how likely a team is to make it to and win the championship of the College Football Playoff.

The Most Likely Champion Is…

Alabama has been No. 1 in our Power Rankings for eight consecutive weeks. The Crimson Tide is the only team in the country ranked in the top five in both offensive and defensive efficiency.

The SEC champions are the No. 1 seed for a reason and would be favored on a neutral field against Oregon, Florida State and Ohio State and every other team in the country by at least a field goal.

After 50,000 simulations, the most likely national champion is Alabama. Alabama wins 44.8% of all the simulated tournaments. In the most likely National Championship Game, Alabama defeats Oregon 58.4% of the time by an average score of 34-30.

The biggest impact of the selection committee's ranking is not the fact that TCU was left out of the Playoff, but rather that Florida State moved from the fourth to the third seed.

The Seminoles have won three consecutive ACC titles, they have a winning streak of 29 consecutive games and are defending national champions. However, Florida State ranks just 14th overall in our Power Rankings. There are 13 teams in the country that would be favored against Florida State on a neutral field.

Like in March Madness, seed and path to the championship are critical to each team's projected playoff probabilities. Had Florida State remained the fourth seed, Alabama's odds to win the title improve.

Alabama, in a bracket in which it played Florida State in the semifinal instead of Ohio State, would become more than 50% likely to win its fourth title in five years. Oregon, in this hypothetical scenario, would see its championship odds drop to less than 30% with a tougher opening-round matchup against Ohio State.

Based on the analysis, here is the projected College Football Playoff bracket:

Semifinals

No. 1 Alabama vs. No. 4 Ohio State | Alabama wins 69.9% of the time and by an average score of 30-21.

No. 2 Oregon vs. No. 3 Florida State | Oregon wins 72.6% of the time and by an average score of 41-28.

National Championship

No 1. Alabama vs. No. 2 Oregon | Alabama wins 58.4% of the time and by an average score of 34-30.

The likelihoods for each team to win the championship are 44.8% for Alabama, 33.9% for Oregon, 14.7% for Ohio State and 6.6% for Florida State.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on December 07, 2014, 05:32:26 PM
The Big 12 needs to go to 12 teams now.  I don't think they have any choice, but who do they pick up and not get hit with "weak" teams in the conference.

I think their best two options are Cincinnati and Boise State.  Both would bring respectable teams to the Big 12. I don't think they will be able to entice any Big 10, SEC, ACC or PAC 12 teams.  Especially if Texas is still giving the rest of the conference the finger.

They aren't bad teams but still not going to get the "quality" opponent rating that they lost when Nebraska, Missouri, Texas Tech, and Colorado jumped conferences. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on December 07, 2014, 05:37:27 PM
The Big 12 needs to go to 12 teams now.  I don't think they have any choice, but who do they pick up and not get hit with "weak" teams in the conference.

I think their best two options are Cincinnati and Boise State.  Both would bring respectable teams to the Big 12. I don't think they will be able to entice any Big 10, SEC, ACC or PAC 12 teams.  Especially if Texas is still giving the rest of the conference the finger.

They aren't bad teams but still not going to get the "quality" opponent rating that they lost when Nebraska, Missouri, Texas Tech, and Colorado jumped conferences.

I agree, I just think those are their best two options at this time. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 07, 2014, 05:40:17 PM
The Big 12 needs to go to 12 teams now.  I don't think they have any choice, but who do they pick up and not get hit with "weak" teams in the conference.

You get Cincinnati and Memphis, and if you have to stretch it, add La Tech.

The first 2 get you on TV in Ohio and Tennessee, respectively, to get you in competition for recruits from other conferences, plus both make your basketball conference a serious powerhouse.
LT only if you feel the need to fight for Louisiana recruits.

They should have grabbed Louisville when they grabbed West Virginia; they were too short-sighted to do it.

Before you *ever* touch Boise St, you go get BYU first.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 07, 2014, 05:40:55 PM
They aren't bad teams but still not going to get the "quality" opponent rating that they lost when Nebraska, Missouri, Texas Tech, and Colorado jumped conferences. 

it was A&M, not T-Tech. :)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on December 07, 2014, 05:45:06 PM
Before you *ever* touch Boise St, you go get BYU first.

I agree.  I'm just not sure if BYU is interested in joining a conference or if they want to emulate ND.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Arctic Blast on December 07, 2014, 07:18:04 PM
Ha!  Well that was an unexpected ending.  I actually thought the Jets were going to pull it off there


That's where you made your mistake.

(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/c9/c93606b8db8f217421c58fa2860c5325c0d6948e8613b5fcc61587bad2c0df6f.jpg)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 08, 2014, 09:51:09 AM
Tolling level: Expert

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2292491-rams-jeff-fisher-sends-players-traded-for-robert-griffin-iii-out-for-coin-toss


Quote from: Twitter
Fisher w/a little sense of humor. He sent Jenkins, Brockers, Stacy, Bailey, Robinson, Ogletree out for pregame coin toss at FedEx.
Quote from: Twitter
What's the meaning of all that? All six were acquired as result of the RGIII trade.

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Marty Ward on December 08, 2014, 10:36:17 AM
I think the NCAA basketball tourney really proves the greatness that is American college sports.  On any given day...

Picking the 2 best or having a knockout tournament are just two different ways of choosing a champion. It doesn't really matter how you do it, neither way guarantees the BEST team plays for it. Personally I think even if the #8 beats the #1 they aren't a better team.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on December 08, 2014, 10:48:28 AM
Tolling level: Expert

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2292491-rams-jeff-fisher-sends-players-traded-for-robert-griffin-iii-out-for-coin-toss


Quote from: Twitter
Fisher w/a little sense of humor. He sent Jenkins, Brockers, Stacy, Bailey, Robinson, Ogletree out for pregame coin toss at FedEx.
Quote from: Twitter
What's the meaning of all that? All six were acquired as result of the RGIII trade.

This one made me LMAO! Maybe Fisher will be kind and hire Gruden as an assistant after the season.

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on December 08, 2014, 12:08:44 PM
Tolling level: Expert

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2292491-rams-jeff-fisher-sends-players-traded-for-robert-griffin-iii-out-for-coin-toss


Quote from: Twitter
Fisher w/a little sense of humor. He sent Jenkins, Brockers, Stacy, Bailey, Robinson, Ogletree out for pregame coin toss at FedEx.
Quote from: Twitter
What's the meaning of all that? All six were acquired as result of the RGIII trade.

Ha!  Genius. 

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on December 09, 2014, 06:18:41 PM
I think the NCAA basketball tourney really proves the greatness that is American college sports.  On any given day...

Picking the 2 best or having a knockout tournament are just two different ways of choosing a champion. It doesn't really matter how you do it, neither way guarantees the BEST team plays for it. Personally I think even if the #8 beats the #1 they aren't a better team.

The purpose of the tournament is for entertainment and to determine the best team.  So if the #8 team beats the #1 and they hadn't played previously, then the #8 team is the better team.  I mostly get annoyed that all college football boils down to 5 conferences and in reality only about 10 teams out of all of the FBS that are even considered "worthy".  Boise State fielded some of the best teams in the early 2000s but were never give credit even when they beat the power conference preferred teams.  Same with TCU.  I want to see the FBS go to a FCS playoff system.  Higher ranked team gets the home game and a neutral Championship game site.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on December 09, 2014, 08:01:59 PM
I want to see the FBS go to a FCS playoff system.  Higher ranked team gets the home game and a neutral Championship game site.

I agree, but it will never happen.  The first time a southern team had to go to Boise or Madison in December and got their butts handed to them, that would be the end of it. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on December 09, 2014, 08:10:53 PM
So, if weather is so detrimental for Southern teams going north, what's the Northern teams excuses for getting their ass handed to them when they come south?
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 09, 2014, 08:20:07 PM
distracted by the cheerleaders
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on December 09, 2014, 08:33:35 PM
Heat and humidity.  Don't you remember all of the talk during the old orange bowl about northern teams playing a Florida or southern team and can they handle the heat and humidity.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on December 09, 2014, 08:46:57 PM
I know.  I'm just trying to give a little to the OSU fan from the Alabama fan.  Being an SEC fan is a lot like being a Yankee fan.  When you root, revel and glory vicariously in your teams success, you have to expect the jealous haters trying to harsh your mellow ;)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Marty Ward on December 10, 2014, 06:30:29 AM

The purpose of the tournament is for entertainment and to determine the best team.  So if the #8 team beats the #1 and they hadn't played previously, then the #8 team is the better team.  I mostly get annoyed that all college football boils down to 5 conferences and in reality only about 10 teams out of all of the FBS that are even considered "worthy".  Boise State fielded some of the best teams in the early 2000s but were never give credit even when they beat the power conference preferred teams.  Same with TCU.  I want to see the FBS go to a FCS playoff system.  Higher ranked team gets the home game and a neutral Championship game site.

A one and done tournament does not pretend to pick the best team. It is just another way to pick a champion. No doubt it can be exciting but it has nothing to do with determining who is the best. Look at the NFL, the playoff are what everyone is concerned about getting into but are you seriously saying the Giants were a better team than NE when they ruined the Pats perfect season? That if they had played a best of 7 series the Giants would have won even 1 more game? I don't think so. They were just better that day.

In the end it is only about revenue. I bet the field will expand to 8 teams in the near future, and if they can expand it to 12 or more without bumping into the NFL playoff they will do it, simply because of the money it generates. It will be exciting and people will watch but when the #8 seed with 2 losses beats the #7 seed with 2 losses in the championship game you won't have seen the 2 best teams play, just the two that managed to win 2 or 3 games in a row.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on December 10, 2014, 03:01:57 PM
I know.  I'm just trying to give a little to the OSU fan from the Alabama fan.  Being an SEC fan is a lot like being a Yankee fan.  When you root, revel and glory vicariously in your teams success, you have to expect the jealous haters trying to harsh your mellow ;)

And that's what makes it fun!
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on December 10, 2014, 05:45:30 PM
Wow!  Did see this coming at all;

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Gary Andersen is leaving Wisconsin after two seasons to be the head coaching at Oregon State
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 10, 2014, 07:25:32 PM
Unfortunately, everyone around here is wondering if Dave Doeren is on the next flight out of town.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on December 11, 2014, 05:28:19 AM
Unfortunately, everyone around here is wondering if Dave Doeren is on the next flight out of town.

Must be a local story, because no one else in the country knows who Dave Doeren is.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 11, 2014, 07:23:11 AM
Head coach at NC State and former d-coord from Wisconsin. 
Left for the NC State gig after 2 years as the HC at N Illinois, about 3 weeks before Bielma left WISC for ARK.  Doeren never said it publicly, but a lot of people think he was pissed about Bielma's timing and that he could've had the WISC gig 2 years ago.  He's saying all the right things publicly, but everyone always says the right things publicly (Saban about 'Bama, Brown about Texas, Todd Graham about anything).  The only guy who said the right things publicly and then didn't jump was Les Miles at LSU in '07 when he could've gone to Michigan.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 11, 2014, 07:35:12 AM
(Interesting note - only 1 team ever beat 2 BCS game participants in a season without ever playing in a BCS bowl themselves.  Let's see if anyone gets the team/year right :) )

just wondering if anyone's interested in taking a swing at this...  no Googling!
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on December 11, 2014, 06:35:21 PM
Sign up for the for the fantasy college bowl picks.  I think brant said he's giving a hug to the winner if you need enticement.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on December 12, 2014, 10:28:22 AM
Unfortunately, everyone around here is wondering if Dave Doeren is on the next flight out of town.

Sounding like you don't have to worry about him going to Wisconsin.

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Former Wisconsin assistant and current Pittsburgh coach Paul Chryst is poised to become the Badgers' new head coach, a source confirmed to ESPN.com.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12018668/wisconsin-badgers-hire-pittsburgh-head-coach-paul-chryst
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on December 13, 2014, 10:40:58 AM
The Naval Academy Battle Goats take on the West Point Jack A**'s today. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on December 14, 2014, 02:11:21 PM
Ho hum another division title for the Pats
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on December 15, 2014, 05:30:06 AM
How 'bout them Texans...having players grievously injured since 2002.

Not that I'm a fan of Fitzpatrick at all, but the boy could scramble a helluva lot better than Schaub the Statue ever did. Not so much today, though.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 16, 2014, 04:18:59 AM
7-year-old kid sends JJ Watt his autographed jersey, so when the kid grows up and becomes famous, Watt already has it

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/154324/seven-year-old-sends-j-j-watt-his-autographed-jersey

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B48XSSICQAAW19M.jpg)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Arctic Blast on December 16, 2014, 09:11:08 PM
Ah, watching Johnny Manziel fail spectacularly was so delicious. I hope to enjoy the same for another 2 years or so before he's playing in the CFL.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on December 17, 2014, 04:42:39 AM
Ah, watching Johnny Manziel fail spectacularly was so delicious. I hope to enjoy the same for another 2 years or so before he's playing in the CFL for the Cowboys.

 ;D
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 18, 2014, 11:44:30 AM
Hey BC - here's lookin' at you, kid! (http://profootballmock.com/houston-texans-select-unpaid-intern-starting-qb/)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 18, 2014, 01:48:51 PM
http://www.wncn.com/story/27662602/5-year-old-ohio-state-fan-donates-1-to-save-uabs-football-program
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on December 21, 2014, 06:26:26 PM
Apparently Andrew Luck and Tony Romo were involved in one of those freaky Friday incidents where people switch bodies.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 21, 2014, 06:31:13 PM
Well now that the Saints are out of it, I don't have to care about the NFL again until the Super Bowl.  That's a lot of time I've got back for following soccer :)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on December 21, 2014, 06:31:31 PM
Apparently Andrew Luck and Tony Romo were involved in one of those freaky Friday incidents where people switch bodies.

Ummmm..............."Romo's fifth game out of the past six with a passer rating over 129.0 has pushed him past Aaron Rodgers for the NFL lead." NFL.com

Romo's probably the most underrated QB in the league. He's had some spectacular failures but still tends to end up in the top 5 of QB's most years. Frankly, without Romo the 'Boys would be fortunate to repeat the 8-8 records of the last few years.

Luck though....I do think he switched bodies with RGIII or maybe Johnny Paycheck Manziel.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on December 21, 2014, 06:32:44 PM
Don't try and ruin the Romo fun around here with suspicious facts from "nfl.com".
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on December 21, 2014, 06:47:38 PM
^At least you aren't admitting to watching soccer like some people.....
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on December 21, 2014, 06:49:27 PM
Dallas is really confusing me by winning in December.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on December 21, 2014, 07:07:30 PM
You think you're confused....hell, I've been a Cowboys fan for 42 years and I'm confused.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on December 23, 2014, 09:22:56 AM
Wow, I cannot believe the Bengals managed to win a Monday night game, against Peyton Manning and the Broncos no less.

What made it even better, is that my in-laws are here for the week and they were rooting from the Broncos.  I was proudly wearing my Bengals shirt and taunting them the whole time. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Con on December 23, 2014, 09:44:58 PM
Thank you Captain Forehead.  Pats get the first round bye and AFC playoffs go through Foxboro...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B5jEaVXCcAAAmFi.jpg)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on December 23, 2014, 10:29:20 PM
Rome rocks!  His radio show has always been the shit!  His tv shows, to the last one of them, have all sucked.  Except when Jim Everett almost beat his ass :)  And Rome, for all his SoCal affectations, is a chowd, or has enough blood from there to be one.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on December 24, 2014, 05:37:53 AM
Jim "Chrissy" Everett going after Rome after Rome taunted him was classic. Everett was a Ram at the time, but had been drafted by my Oilers before being traded for a sandwich and bag of chips. He couldn't handle the pressure of driving Houston freeways, much less a pass rush. Rome called it right.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 24, 2014, 01:44:57 PM
Holy shit - y'all needed to see the end of the WKU-CMU game in the Bahamas Bowl.  Wow.

I had just finished watching FF"s Sonic Highways Seattle episode and turned on the game just in time for the last play.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: endfire79 on December 29, 2014, 09:58:24 AM
Anybody see this one?

(http://i.imgur.com/lSS9ZUT.gif)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on December 29, 2014, 04:58:10 PM
Wow, DENIED! Seriously, I'm not gonna be surprised in any way should the Seahawks repeat as Super Bowl champs.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: endfire79 on December 31, 2014, 10:29:15 AM
Have to admit, they still got it.  I think NFC will be a close call this year
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on December 31, 2014, 09:24:54 PM
Not a good day for Mississippi football teams.  TCU proved today they got bent over and screwed by the bowl $election committee. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on December 31, 2014, 10:36:58 PM
It's looking more and more like I am going to have to concede to Brant that the SEC, ESPECIALLY the West, is not near as good as it's reputation.  That's going to suck!  :(
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on December 31, 2014, 10:58:07 PM
Well it certainly looks like the SEC may have been a touch overrated, which is why if a #16 beats a #1 based on human or computer rankings the better team won.  I want a full playoff like FCS even more now.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on January 01, 2015, 06:40:09 AM
I don't think you need more than eight.  Six might do, too.  The five league champions and a wild card.  And just because 16 beats 1 does NOT make 16 better than 1.  It just means they were better that day.  Just ask your self, if they played that game ten times, how many would 16 have won?  That's a much better indicator.  There are numerous examples of a team coming in uninterested and losing to one that isn't as good as they are.  It's still on them for losing, but it doesn't make the team that beat them better than they are.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 01, 2015, 06:54:06 AM
Doesn't matter.  Isn't that the point of any game?  To be better than the other team on the day you play?  Nor does it change the fact that the original ratings are arbitrary in nature anyway.  It's not a quantifiable fact that this team is #1 and that team is #22 and that team is #7 this week and #3 next.  It's an opinion.  It's a projection.  It is not fact.  The only fact is when two teams meet for a game; one wins and one loses.  That is a fact.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 01, 2015, 07:36:04 AM
The only fact is when two teams meet for a game; one wins and one loses.  That is a fact.

Settle it on the field, right?

I present to you, your 2011 rematch champions...
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on January 01, 2015, 07:46:23 AM
^ROLL TIDE BITCHES
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 01, 2015, 07:57:04 AM
The only fact is when two teams meet for a game; one wins and one loses.  That is a fact.

Settle it on the field, right?

I present to you, your 2011 rematch champions...

Exactly my point.  Alabama should never have been in the 2011 Championship game if season games have any meaning.  At this point, the NCAA selection committee should just cancel all foreseeable seasons and just let the computers and ADs from the "big" schools pick the championship game in September and be done with it.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on January 01, 2015, 08:24:41 AM
That sounds like a bunch of sour grapes from someone who -thinks- he wants what's best.  But when you get Boise State versus Marshall for the National Championship, you won't watch, you won't care and you'll wonder why, "USC, Alabama, Ohio State, fill in the blank," isn't in the championship game. 

I'm with you on the Committee being dunderheads.  A bunch of biased people who don't have to explain how they got to their conclusions.  But what's the alternative?  The BCS?  According to you guys, they failed by giving us a LSU/Alabama rematch in 2011.  Maybe we should go back to a 'mythical' National Champion as voted on by the AP.  Oh, wait.  We had ties in that system, giving split National Champs.  Even a playoff system isn't perfect.  Regardless of what number you limit it to, there will always be a team or six that could argue that they were just as deserving as, x, and they should have gotten in instead of x.  And there will DEFINITELY be times in a playoff where the best team DOESN'T win, they just got outplayed that day.  A key turnover or injury.  Some one we never expected, playing out their mind in a once for the ages performance.  It happens.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 01, 2015, 08:24:57 AM
It's looking more and more like I am going to have to concede to Brant that the SEC, ESPECIALLY the West, is not near as good as it's reputation.  That's going to suck!  :(

From ESPN's article (http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/106746/georgia-tech-makes-statement-with-orange-bowl-win) about GT-Miss St
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It was the fifth time this season an ACC team beat a nonconference opponent ranked in the top 10. The rest of the country has just two such wins. For the season so far, the ACC holds a 5-3 record against the mighty SEC.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on January 01, 2015, 08:27:57 AM
It's looking more and more like I am going to have to concede to Brant that the SEC, ESPECIALLY the West, is not near as good as it's reputation.  That's going to suck!  :(

From ESPN's article (http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/106746/georgia-tech-makes-statement-with-orange-bowl-win) about GT-Miss St
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It was the fifth time this season an ACC team beat a nonconference opponent ranked in the top 10. The rest of the country has just two such wins. For the season so far, the ACC holds a 5-3 record against the mighty SEC.

Up until yesterday, I would have poo-pooed your ACC claims.  Reminded you that your best beat our worst.  And Mississippi State gives up 452 yards and gets their ASS handed to them!  Good win by Georgia Tech.  It's still a gimmick offense, but, it's the one you have to beat and State didn't do it.  Kudos.  I gotta ask though, how did Louisville do?
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 01, 2015, 08:38:39 AM
That sounds like a bunch of sour grapes from someone who -thinks- he wants what's best.  But when you get Boise State versus Marshall for the National Championship, you won't watch, you won't care and you'll wonder why, "USC, Alabama, Ohio State, fill in the blank," isn't in the championship game. 

I'm with you on the Committee being dunderheads.  A bunch of biased people who don't have to explain how they got to their conclusions.  But what's the alternative?  The BCS?  According to you guys, they failed by giving us a LSU/Alabama rematch in 2011.  Maybe we should go back to a 'mythical' National Champion as voted on by the AP.  Oh, wait.  We had ties in that system, giving split National Champs.  Even a playoff system isn't perfect.  Regardless of what number you limit it to, there will always be a team or six that could argue that they were just as deserving as, x, and they should have gotten in instead of x.  And there will DEFINITELY be times in a playoff where the best team DOESN'T win, they just got outplayed that day.  A key turnover or injury.  Some one we never expected, playing out their mind in a once for the ages performance.  It happens.

No if you are going to call a school a FBS school and a conference of those same schools a FBS conference then that should mean something.  If it does, the answer is a playoff with the champion from each conference being represented.  And if it does end up being Boise State and Marshall then so be it.  I don't see the downside in that game other than "power" conference fay boys being all ass hurt, because they had a harder schedule and conference.  If you aren't going to give the opportunity for Boise State or Marshal or TCU or Fresno State or Bowling Green or Toledo or pick your school, the opportunity to ever play for the championship based on conference affiliation then tell them so and remove the FBS status from the schools and conferences.  Also I didn't watch the Alabama and LSU game.  It held no interest for me and the fact it was a rematch didn't help lure me into watching the game.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 01, 2015, 09:36:42 AM
I gotta ask though, how did Louisville do?

Not as well as Clemson.  Or NC State, for that matter :D
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on January 01, 2015, 10:57:52 AM
That sounds like a bunch of sour grapes from someone who -thinks- he wants what's best.  But when you get Boise State versus Marshall for the National Championship, you won't watch, you won't care and you'll wonder why, "USC, Alabama, Ohio State, fill in the blank," isn't in the championship game. 

I'm with you on the Committee being dunderheads.  A bunch of biased people who don't have to explain how they got to their conclusions.  But what's the alternative?  The BCS?  According to you guys, they failed by giving us a LSU/Alabama rematch in 2011.  Maybe we should go back to a 'mythical' National Champion as voted on by the AP.  Oh, wait.  We had ties in that system, giving split National Champs.  Even a playoff system isn't perfect.  Regardless of what number you limit it to, there will always be a team or six that could argue that they were just as deserving as, x, and they should have gotten in instead of x.  And there will DEFINITELY be times in a playoff where the best team DOESN'T win, they just got outplayed that day.  A key turnover or injury.  Some one we never expected, playing out their mind in a once for the ages performance.  It happens.

No if you are going to call a school a FBS school and a conference of those same schools a FBS conference then that should mean something.  If it does, the answer is a playoff with the champion from each conference being represented.  And if it does end up being Boise State and Marshall then so be it.  I don't see the downside in that game other than "power" conference fay boys being all ass hurt, because they had a harder schedule and conference.  If you aren't going to give the opportunity for Boise State or Marshal or TCU or Fresno State or Bowling Green or Toledo or pick your school, the opportunity to ever play for the championship based on conference affiliation then tell them so and remove the FBS status from the schools and conferences.  Also I didn't watch the Alabama and LSU game.  It held no interest for me and the fact it was a rematch didn't help lure me into watching the game.

In a world that made more sense, it would be four 16 team conferences and everyone else.  There would be two divisions in each of the four conferences of eight teams apiece.You play a fourteen game schedule, the seven in your own division, four from the other division and one each from the other three conferences.  Eight teams get in at the end.  It would be all of the division winners.  First round of the playoff is the conference championship game.  The winners go to a regional semi, located on a rotating basis by geography and bowl.  The winners of the semi play for the National Championship.  That way, all of the winning is done on the field and none of the whining matters.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 01, 2015, 11:52:28 AM
^ Exactly although the number and size of conferences could be negotiable.  The end state is conference champions earn a right to play for the national title.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 01, 2015, 12:10:53 PM
In a world that made more sense, it would be four 16 team conferences and everyone else.  There would be two divisions in each of the four conferences of eight teams apiece.You play a fourteen game schedule, the seven in your own division, four from the other division and one each from the other three conferences.  Eight teams get in at the end.  It would be all of the division winners.  First round of the playoff is the conference championship game.  The winners go to a regional semi, located on a rotating basis by geography and bowl.  The winners of the semi play for the National Championship.  That way, all of the winning is done on the field and none of the whining matters.

they call that the NFL
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 01, 2015, 12:19:06 PM
In a world that made more sense, it would be four 16 team conferences and everyone else.  There would be two divisions in each of the four conferences of eight teams apiece.You play a fourteen game schedule, the seven in your own division, four from the other division and one each from the other three conferences.  Eight teams get in at the end.  It would be all of the division winners.  First round of the playoff is the conference championship game.  The winners go to a regional semi, located on a rotating basis by geography and bowl.  The winners of the semi play for the National Championship.  That way, all of the winning is done on the field and none of the whining matters.

they call that the NFL

Some fairly obvious technical issues calling MD's scheme the NFL.   O:-)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on January 01, 2015, 01:41:21 PM
Look.  Neither of the last two NFL Commissioners were idiots.  They have expanded their influence to every month of the season.  Part of baseballs demise is directly attributed to that.  Fans have an insatiable appetite for 'insider' information.  It's easy to figure out how to bet on it and it's presented in an easily consumable form in a visual medium.  Football is the 800 pound gorilla and college football is the free feeder system.  Part of the reason owners have so much money is because they don't have to pay for a minor league.  And that's what it is ultimately about.  Money.  And what better model for college to follow than the pros?  So, my scenario, while not original to me, I see being what we will get in the future.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on January 01, 2015, 02:51:33 PM
YES!!!!  Michigan State just came from 20 points down at the start of the 4th and beat Baylor and their whiny arse coach.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 01, 2015, 02:56:31 PM
That was an excellent come back by MSU.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 01, 2015, 05:50:51 PM
Wow.  Oregon and Florida State's defenses suck.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 01, 2015, 06:02:43 PM
That's probably the nail in FSU's coffin right there.

Next steps?  'Bama beats OSU like a rented mule, then get killed by Oregon at Jerryworld.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 01, 2015, 06:03:58 PM
BAHAHAHAHA!   The fumble by Winston will live right up there with the Sanchez butt fumble in infamy.   HAHAHAHA!  Hilarious. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 01, 2015, 06:17:37 PM
So I guess the computers and the committee had completely overrated Florida State ...
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 01, 2015, 06:22:33 PM
Frankly if I was Jumbo, I'd just break out the lawn chair, a bucket of crab legs, and a six pack and enjoy the rest of the Rose Bowl in relaxing comfort.  And no I wouldn't offer Winston any of my crab legs.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 01, 2015, 07:00:19 PM
Well hopefully losing the coin toss is the worst thing that happens to OSU in the game tonight.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on January 01, 2015, 07:06:35 PM
Settle down, hater.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 01, 2015, 07:19:35 PM
Well it looks like the Jets have a quarterback to draft next year.

(http://sports-kings.com/downanddistance/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/YyedXM2.gif)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 01, 2015, 08:10:35 PM
OSU is not justifying their selection over TCU or Baylor.  The two games played today are making me even more pissed about how the teams were selected for this farce of a playoff.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 01, 2015, 08:36:30 PM
OK I take it back.  OSU is actually starting to play like they want to be here.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on January 01, 2015, 09:25:13 PM
'Bama better figure out how to take that QB out!  He's gonna run all OVER the place if they don't!!!!!
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on January 01, 2015, 10:23:58 PM
YES!!!!!
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on January 01, 2015, 10:33:48 PM
Well, Bama just drove down the field and scored.  It's a 7 point game with 1:59 left.  On side kick coming up.  Bama has 2 timeouts left.  OSU gets the onside kick.  It was a great kick with a perfect bounce, but Spencer made a great jump for it. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on January 01, 2015, 10:38:06 PM
That was a terrible series by OSU.  Almost no time off the clock.  The one goo thing is Bama has no time outs. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on January 01, 2015, 10:43:10 PM
They did!!!!! The Buckeyes pulled it out.

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 01, 2015, 10:49:11 PM
Finally I don' t have to listen to just how much better the SEC is than every other conference for at least 7 months.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on January 01, 2015, 10:53:40 PM
Next steps?  'Bama beats OSU like a rented mule,

That mule learned how to kick back. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 01, 2015, 10:54:41 PM
Well now that I've seen the two teams I wanted to see get beat get beat.  I have no further interest in the whole "playoff" thing.  Good luck to the fans of the chestnuts and the ugliest green uniforms ever worn in a football game.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on January 02, 2015, 05:00:39 AM
Congratulations to OSU.  They beat us fair and square.  I don't like that 'Bama lost, but, you can't argue with a decision on the field.  Good luck to the Ducks and the Buckeyes going forward.  As an aside, what's ESPN going to do now?  They played a role in the, 'SEC is the best!'  Do they just move on to someone else?  Or do they find a way to spin the losing bowl record, including by its juggernaut?
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on January 02, 2015, 05:04:17 AM
Two games, two upsets. You could argue these college playoffs just invalidated every college "championship" ever awarded by polls. This is how championships should be decided....on the field.

Can't wait for an 8 and then a 16 game playoff.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 02, 2015, 05:17:19 AM
there's some pretty damned funny tweets in here

http://espn.go.com/blog/acc/post/_/id/79069/social-reax-to-rose-blowout-arbys-shade-new-mighty-ducks-and-winston-memes

the one about Manti Teo's girlfriend is particularly good :)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on January 02, 2015, 06:01:33 AM
there's some pretty damned funny tweets in here

http://espn.go.com/blog/acc/post/_/id/79069/social-reax-to-rose-blowout-arbys-shade-new-mighty-ducks-and-winston-memes

the one about Manti Teo's girlfriend is particularly good :)

LOL nice! I liked the Odell Beckham one a lot.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on January 02, 2015, 07:04:38 AM
Two games, two upsets. You could argue these college playoffs just invalidated every college "championship" ever awarded by polls. This is how championships should be decided....on the field.

Can't wait for an 8 and then a 16 game playoff.

Two upsets?  The Oregon-FSU game was closer for longer than I thought it would be.  Then FSU imploded and just gave up.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on January 02, 2015, 07:06:41 AM
Two games, two upsets. You could argue these college playoffs just invalidated every college "championship" ever awarded by polls. This is how championships should be decided....on the field.

Can't wait for an 8 and then a 16 game playoff.

Two upsets?  The Oregon-FSU game was closer for longer than I thought it would be.  Then FSU imploded and just gave up.

I said "two upsets" because I thought both Alabama and FSU were favorites going into the game. No?
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on January 02, 2015, 07:08:18 AM
You may be correct Steel, but I thought Oregon was the favorite. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on January 02, 2015, 07:11:21 AM
You may be correct Steel, but I thought Oregon was the favorite.

Clearly they were the best team, whether favored or not    O0
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on January 02, 2015, 07:25:48 AM
The Buckeyes started their preseason third string quarterback for only his second start against the #1 ranked team.  One of the biggest passing scores wasn't even made by him, but by one of the receivers, one that was made by inches.


Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on January 02, 2015, 04:38:43 PM
I certainly can't blame you for reveling in OSU's upset of the Tide and that play in particular, but if I never see that lucky a$$ play ever again...it'll be too soon.


As for favorites, both Oregon and Alabama were the favorites in their respective games.  Both were around 9 point favorites.  I had both games, too.  Oregon -9 and OSU  +9 1/2.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on January 02, 2015, 04:46:46 PM
As for favorites, both Oregon and Alabama were the favorites in their respective games.  Both were around 9 point favorites.  I had both games, too.  Oregon -9 and OSU  +9 1/2.

Thanks for clarifying that, Dawg.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on January 02, 2015, 04:48:08 PM
My pleasure, sir!  :)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 02, 2015, 06:23:45 PM
Well with K-State's performance so far tonight, the Big 12 joins the SEC as the most inept conferences in bowl games this year.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: airboy on January 02, 2015, 07:52:12 PM
Weird finale to the SEC West.  The top teams: Alabama, Auburn, Mississippi St. Ole Miss all lost.  The Mississippi schools looked really bad.  The two weakest teams: Arkansas and Texas A&M both won their games.

I appreciate the post of the Winston fumble.  I did not see the game and the wife and I both thought it was awesome!
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on January 02, 2015, 08:03:40 PM
Well with K-State's performance so far tonight, the Big 12 joins the SEC as the most inept conferences in bowl games this year.

The SEC will go no worse than .500 in its 12 bowl matchups.  And if Florida wins tomorrow, it will be 7-5 instead of 6-6.  Yes, there is the epic fail of Alabama, Auburn and the Mississippi schools, but, you get that many births, you lose a few games.  The Big 12 has 1 win.  There's no comparison.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 02, 2015, 08:18:31 PM
Well with K-State's performance so far tonight, the Big 12 joins the SEC as the most inept conferences in bowl games this year.

The SEC will go no worse than .500 in its 12 bowl matchups.  And if Florida wins tomorrow, it will be 7-5 instead of 6-6.  Yes, there is the epic fail of Alabama, Auburn and the Mississippi schools, but, you get that many births, you lose a few games.  The Big 12 has 1 win.  There's no comparison.

Starting early on the SEC is the greatest conference in the world, I see.  /sigh/ The Big 12 wasn't a strong conference this year overall, but they did have some really good teams.  The PAC 12 and BIG 10+a couple are really proving themselves to be very good.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on January 02, 2015, 09:04:11 PM
You're such a jerk :P  Of course I think the SEC is the best!  The wealth of talent down South along with the cream of the crop from other areas of the country MAKE the SEC the best.  But it's not the ONLY conference.  And there's enough talent to populate many really GOOD teams. 

So, let's quit jerking around.  Tell me what criteria you use to judge the 'best' conference around?  Until we rely on something more concrete than opinion and conjecture, we are not going to have a consensus.  Bowl record?  Win/loss records?  Number of NFL graduates?  National Championships?  Recruiting classes?  Head to head record?  Is there a metric for strength of schedule?  What are we using?
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Marty Ward on January 03, 2015, 09:26:38 PM
How 'bout dem Ravens!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on January 04, 2015, 07:51:29 AM
So far I am 2 for 2 picking winners against the spread.  I've got the Colts giving 3 and 1/2 and the Lions getting 6 and 1/2.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 04, 2015, 05:12:47 PM
just a heads-up for those of you still salivating over the Odell Beckham catch...  that Calvin Johnson guy is pretty good, too :)

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 04, 2015, 06:06:01 PM
The Bengals imploded as was bound to happen since they had no receivers suited up today.  Freaking Lions let Romo look good in a comeback.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on January 04, 2015, 06:12:11 PM
Fucking Cowboys! Fucking loser Lions!!!
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 04, 2015, 06:13:49 PM
I think the zebras had a hand in that one.  I'm not usually a fan of bashing the refs, but it seemed like a lot of 'borderline' calls all managed to break the Cowboys' way.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on January 04, 2015, 08:15:25 PM
DOLPHINS IN THE SUPER BOWL!!!!!

............ oh wait.who put something in my drink?
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on January 04, 2015, 08:37:58 PM
I think the zebras had a hand in that one.  I'm not usually a fan of bashing the refs, but it seemed like a lot of 'borderline' calls all managed to break the Cowboys' way.

It's the Lions. No one is really going to question them sucking.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on January 04, 2015, 09:56:59 PM
...And my nightmare scenario of a Cowboys-Patriots Super Bowl comes one step closer.  Should such a calamity come to pass, I will know beyond any doubt that there is no God. 




How 'bout dem Ravens!!!!!!!!

All credit to Baltimore, but I'm still bummed about the Steelers losing.  :( 

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on January 05, 2015, 07:20:41 AM
So, let's quit jerking around.  Tell me what criteria you use to judge the 'best' conference around?  Until we rely on something more concrete than opinion and conjecture, we are not going to have a consensus.  Bowl record?  Win/loss records?  Number of NFL graduates?  National Championships?  Recruiting classes?  Head to head record?  Is there a metric for strength of schedule?  What are we using?

This is why I think they need a playoff system.  Do I think they need to expand it to six or eight teams, yes, but they need some kind of playoff system.  In many articles that I've read, they all point out the same thing, if we were still in the BCS era, than neither Oregon or Ohio State would be playing for a national title, instead you would have Alabama and Florida State playing for it.

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Marty Ward on January 05, 2015, 02:06:39 PM

All credit to Baltimore, but I'm still bummed about the Steelers losing.  :(

This was the first Ravens game in a long time where I wasn't nervous before the game started. I was just hoping we didn't get blown out or play like ass. I sure didn't expect them to win.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Marty Ward on January 05, 2015, 02:11:40 PM


This is why I think they need a playoff system.  Do I think they need to expand it to six or eight teams, yes, but they need some kind of playoff system.  In many articles that I've read, they all point out the same thing, if we were still in the BCS era, than neither Oregon or Ohio State would be playing for a national title, instead you would have Alabama and Florida State playing for it.

Personally I'd rather see the two best collage teams, chosen by consensus, play for the title.
With 4 you can sometimes make a case that the two best will end up in the title game. Expand it to 8 teams and try to make that case when #8 upsets #1 and wins it all. I mean do you really think Mississippi State would be considered the best team this year?
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on January 05, 2015, 05:06:32 PM
So far I am 2 for 2 picking winners against the spread.  I've got the Colts giving 3 and 1/2 and the Lions getting 6 and 1/2.

I got all four of them right!  I won all you can eat Popeye's chicken and hockey tickets!



In response to OJsDad and Marty, concerning college playoffs/champions.  Let me start out by saying, I don't really like college football.  It's an inferior brand to the pros and with the 100+ teams that play every year and the 60 odd that make a bowl, I think it makes a farce out of any attempt to crown a "true" National Champion.  There is no way to determine who belongs where and what is the criteria for including/denying participants.  The NCAA is a outdated institution upholding a standard, amateurism, that is no longer true about any of the sports played by the member schools.  Any outside body that can pick a "consensus" to play for the championship is fraught with bias, lack of transparency and no concrete criteria for making said selections.  In other words, college football is fuc*ed!

Having said all that, if you still want a way to determine a "true" National Champion, I really think the NFL model is the only way.  I mentioned it upthread and the gist is, four 16 team super conferences, two divisions a piece.  Division winners play for the Conference Championship.  Conference champions play a national semifinal and the winners play for the National Championship.  The Super Bowl isn't always won by the "best" team and neither will the National Championship.  Doing it this way leaves no doubt who actually did win it though.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on January 05, 2015, 05:56:06 PM
^+1

Can you imagine a four team NFL playoff or selecting the NFL champion by consensus vote???   :P
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on January 05, 2015, 06:15:09 PM
MD, I agree with what you say about a play off for college football.  The biggest problem is going to get schools that are in Div I, or whatever they call the top division now, out that have never fielded a competitive team and never will. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on January 05, 2015, 07:16:04 PM
...And my nightmare scenario of a Cowboys-Patriots Super Bowl comes one step closer.  Should such a calamity come to pass, I will know beyond any doubt that there is no God. 

if that shit show happens I'm rooting for the Cowboys.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on January 05, 2015, 07:17:54 PM
if I won the $200 million lottery I would hire a midget to run out in the middle of a game and kick him in the nuts.  I'd cover all the legal expenses.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on January 05, 2015, 07:25:19 PM
^ Gus would blow the entire million on booze, computer games, and shoes with lifts!
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on January 05, 2015, 07:47:29 PM
MD, I agree with what you say about a play off for college football.  The biggest problem is going to get schools that are in Div I, or whatever they call the top division now, out that have never fielded a competitive team and never will.

Well, the Big 5 almost have this scenario already.  Between the the ACC, Big 10, Big 12, Pac 12 and SEC, there are exactly 64 teams.  Now it's just a matter of figuring how to dole them out.  And they'll have to be renamed.  Geographically would be best, but, I wouldn't be opposed to keeping the old conference names.  The thing then is, who gets dropped?  I would say the Big 12.  And I would be ruthless in how I realign, too.  That's why keeping the old conference designations would be a hindrance.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on January 05, 2015, 07:54:00 PM
...And my nightmare scenario of a Cowboys-Patriots Super Bowl comes one step closer.  Should such a calamity come to pass, I will know beyond any doubt that there is no God. 

if that shit show happens I'm rooting for the Cowboys.

I'll be getting drunk.  Very, very drunk. 

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on January 05, 2015, 08:18:25 PM
Meh. Colts vs. Broncos might be interesting. Might be. I can only hope the Packers beat the snot out of the Cowboys and Romo finally shows his true choke-worthy colors.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on January 05, 2015, 08:22:57 PM
Ugh.  Now I have to root for the Packers this weekend.  I already feel dirty. 

At least I can cheer the Ravens with a clean conscience. 

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on January 05, 2015, 08:30:34 PM
dirty, dirty man.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on January 05, 2015, 08:54:40 PM
MD, the only other thing I would do is to setup a process like British soccer.  Schools not in the top 4 conferences are placed in 4 other conferences.  The top two (or however many are decided) teams in those conferences replace the worst teams in the top 4 conferences each year.  That way the Indiana's, Colorado's, Vanderbilt's, NC States, etc, get moved down and the schools like LA Tech, Boise, etc. that are trying to put a good program together get rewarded. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on January 05, 2015, 09:56:49 PM
^ I have no trouble with that at all.  And I think college is uniquely suited to that.  College hoops could work like that, too, but, they have neither the following nor the same type of problem as football.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on January 06, 2015, 05:28:20 AM
It's funny, I only just discovered how British soccer is organized and how teams can be promoted up the 'league chain' all the way to the Premier League, technically from the doldrums, if they win enough. And can fall just as far if they lose too much. I think it's a brilliant system and frankly, several US sports could take a glance and learn something.

Remember the old game, Blitz: The League? It was basically an ultra-violent Madden on steroids. The teams were organized into tiered leagues like British soccer, but in my ignorance I didn't make the connection way back then.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 06, 2015, 07:10:44 AM
It's funny, I only just discovered how British soccer is organized and how teams can be promoted up the 'league chain' all the way to the Premier League, technically from the doldrums, if they win enough. And can fall just as far if they lose too much. I think it's a brilliant system and frankly, several US sports could take a glance and learn something.

you need to get out more...  several off have been screaming for years what a great idea this would be for baseball, as much as anywhere else, with the NBA a close second.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Marty Ward on January 06, 2015, 08:07:10 AM
^+1

Can you imagine a four team NFL playoff or selecting the NFL champion by consensus vote???   :P

You mean like when they had the two winners of the two divisions play for the championship? Or when the winners of the two divisions played each other for the right to go to the Super Bowl? Sure I remember that.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Marty Ward on January 06, 2015, 08:13:57 AM


Having said all that, if you still want a way to determine a "true" National Champion, I really think the NFL model is the only way.  I mentioned it upthread and the gist is, four 16 team super conferences, two divisions a piece.  Division winners play for the Conference Championship.  Conference champions play a national semifinal and the winners play for the National Championship.  The Super Bowl isn't always won by the "best" team and neither will the National Championship.  Doing it this way leaves no doubt who actually did win it though.

With so many teams and so much money involved I doubt that your idea could be implemented but it makes as much sense as any other.

Anyway you cut it, the only thing they are trying to do is have a champion crowned but so many people take it as being they are trying to determine the best team. The best team is found over the course of a season, not in a one and done format. So you can have a tourney to crown the champ or you can pick the two best teams over the course of a season to play for the crown and there is really no difference except you probably have a better chance at having a better game if you pick the two teams, not that you can't get a stinker that way either.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Marty Ward on January 06, 2015, 08:16:40 AM
MD, the only other thing I would do is to setup a process like British soccer.  Schools not in the top 4 conferences are placed in 4 other conferences.  The top two (or however many are decided) teams in those conferences replace the worst teams in the top 4 conferences each year.  That way the Indiana's, Colorado's, Vanderbilt's, NC States, etc, get moved down and the schools like LA Tech, Boise, etc. that are trying to put a good program together get rewarded.

That would probably be a real good way to do it if you could get the conferences to agree to it. While there may be a lot of teams there are a lot fewer conferences so it could work.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on January 06, 2015, 04:35:42 PM
One thing some schools won't like about a system like this is the money they will lose.  In the Big 10, all bowl earnings are pooled and distributed equally, whether they go to a bowl or not.

I will also say that I don't have a problem with all of the bowls.  I feel if someone is willing to sponsor a bowl game and teams can benefit it both with extra practice/game time and financially, then good for them.  So even if there was a switch like we would like, you could still have bowl games.  Just with out conferences as we have now, teams would be on their own for expenses and get to keep the profits.

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on January 06, 2015, 04:43:01 PM
^+1

Can you imagine a four team NFL playoff or selecting the NFL champion by consensus vote???   :P

You mean like when they had the two winners of the two divisions play for the championship? Or when the winners of the two divisions played each other for the right to go to the Super Bowl? Sure I remember that.

Well hell, Marty....how far back do you want to go to make an argument? Leather helmet days? Back then, the NFL wasn't a big deal. I don't want to see Baseball go back to two divisions either.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 06, 2015, 07:00:07 PM
No way in hell would they ever promote/demote teams.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on January 06, 2015, 07:16:57 PM
That's unfortunate.  I really think it would give incentive to teams like Kansas, Vanderbilt, Washington, Wake Forest, et al, to do a better job.  If they know that Marshall or Boise State or UCONN could take their place, they might make more of them selves each season.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 06, 2015, 07:25:57 PM
I get the logic of the argument, but let's not forget that really just a few years ago Alabama would have been a consideration for demotion.  :)  Then you have the historic schools like Notre Dame that were god awful for a long spell. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on January 06, 2015, 07:27:33 PM
Anyway you cut it, the only thing they are trying to do is have a champion crowned but so many people take it as being they are trying to determine the best team. The best team is found over the course of a season, not in a one and done format. So you can have a tourney to crown the champ or you can pick the two best teams over the course of a season to play for the crown and there is really no difference except you probably have a better chance at having a better game if you pick the two teams, not that you can't get a stinker that way either.

Marty, did you think that the so called best team that gets beat in a playoff system, may really not be the best team.  Coming into the playoffs this year, everyone assumed that Alabama was the best in the country.  Why, because they are in the SEC.  I had only seen a couple of their games and I didn't think they were more dominating than any of the other teams in the top 10.  In fact, I would have placed Oregon #1 and not of had FSU in the playoff.  Admittedly, FSU did stay with Oregon longer than I thought they would.  And it was next to impossible to keep them out being undefeated and the defending national champs. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 06, 2015, 07:30:02 PM
There is no question FSU was overrated the entire season.  They honestly would have lost 2 or 3 games barring late game comebacks or questionable penalties.  However they did go undefeated and were the reigning champions, it would have been a shame to not put them into the playoffs.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on January 06, 2015, 07:32:22 PM
That's unfortunate.  I really think it would give incentive to teams like Kansas, Vanderbilt, Washington, Wake Forest, et al, to do a better job.  If they know that Marshall or Boise State or UCONN could take their place, they might make more of them selves each season.

Exactly why it should be implemented. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on January 06, 2015, 07:36:23 PM
Remember when the Patriots had a perfect season, going 20-0 after beating the Giants in the Super Bowl? Oh wait.....

That's why we play the actual games, right?  Every underdog has his day and most every year, it happens in the playoffs somewhere down the line.

I love that we have a college football playoff, finally! I'm looking forward to seeing it expanded.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 06, 2015, 07:38:07 PM
That's unfortunate.  I really think it would give incentive to teams like Kansas, Vanderbilt, Washington, Wake Forest, et al, to do a better job.  If they know that Marshall or Boise State or UCONN could take their place, they might make more of them selves each season.

Exactly why it should be implemented.

What's the cut off to be demoted?  1 bad season?  2 seasons?  Is the SEC given more chances then a BIG 12 school?  Is a school that can pack 30000 fans into a game given more leeway then a smaller school?  I don't know, but there be some serious issues.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on January 06, 2015, 07:45:27 PM
That's unfortunate.  I really think it would give incentive to teams like Kansas, Vanderbilt, Washington, Wake Forest, et al, to do a better job.  If they know that Marshall or Boise State or UCONN could take their place, they might make more of them selves each season.

Exactly why it should be implemented.

What's the cut off to be demoted?  1 bad season?  2 seasons?  Is the SEC given more chances then a BIG 12 school?  Is a school that can pack 30000 fans into a game given more leeway then a smaller school?  I don't know, but there be some serious issues.

Brant can probably talk to this better than I can, but if I remember correctly, it's based on you record at the end of the season.  When I lived in England back in the 80's, it was common from some teams to move up and down from one division to the other every year, because they're a top four team in the lower division, but a bottom four team in the upper division. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on January 06, 2015, 08:05:17 PM
That's unfortunate.  I really think it would give incentive to teams like Kansas, Vanderbilt, Washington, Wake Forest, et al, to do a better job.  If they know that Marshall or Boise State or UCONN could take their place, they might make more of them selves each season.

Exactly why it should be implemented.

What's the cut off to be demoted?  1 bad season?  2 seasons?  Is the SEC given more chances then a BIG 12 school?  Is a school that can pack 30000 fans into a game given more leeway then a smaller school?  I don't know, but there be some serious issues.

You should probably lay off the SEC.  Or peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.  DEFINITELY one of them ;)

Given four 16 team conferences, I don't think it would be out of the question to demote the worst, or even the two worst, in each conference.

And just FYI, the last time 'Bama would have been within shouting distance of being demoted was 2003, when they were 4 & 9.  Can you say the same for your team?  Wait...which team is your team?  You make a lot of noise about how everyone elses team sucks, but you don't offer yours for inspection.  Is it because you are ashamed of them?  Could it be because they have lost 11 in a row to Navy?  Or maybe you pull for a powerhouse like the Vikings?
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 06, 2015, 08:07:41 PM
No because my school is one of the top division I hockey schools.  We played Div II for years before upgrading to being at the bottom of the FCS. 

(http://stmedia.startribune.com/images/630*413/1LOGO23.jpg)

GO FIGHTING SIOUX!
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on January 06, 2015, 08:14:19 PM
Being a top hockey school is like the WNBA. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 06, 2015, 08:18:25 PM
Being a top hockey school is like the WNBA.

Pfft...your just still suffering from being sold a bill of goods on the greatness of the tide elephants.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on January 06, 2015, 08:21:49 PM
Nah.  I knew the D wasn't anything special and I haven't been a fan of Blake Sims, or Lane Kiffin, all year long.  What I do know is, that as long as they play college football, the south will always have a goodly amount of talent.  And a good product lifts the profile of the sport as a whole, so, a strong SEC is good for college football.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 06, 2015, 08:23:30 PM
I strong Notre Dame is better, but I digress....
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on January 06, 2015, 08:25:38 PM
Oh my goodness!  A Golden Domer!!  I always thought I liked you, Bison...now I'm not so sure.  Correct me if I'm wrong, didn't Alabama win their last National Championship over the Fighting Mant'i Teo's?
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 06, 2015, 08:27:17 PM
Oh my goodness!  A Golden Domer!!  I always thought I liked you, Bison...now I'm not so sure.  Correct me if I'm wrong, didn't Alabama win their last National Championship over the Fighting Mant'i Teo's?

I'm pretty sure he was a made up player. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on January 06, 2015, 08:30:21 PM
You got me.  That was pretty funny :)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 06, 2015, 08:31:29 PM
I do like to watch Notre Dame games but honestly I prefer to watch games from non-power conferences like the Mountain West.  And if I have to choose a game from a power conference I'll choose a Big 10 or Big 12 game first.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on January 06, 2015, 08:43:54 PM
I don't even really like college football.  And most of the biases I display are learned responses from my father and grandfather. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 06, 2015, 08:55:33 PM
Brant can probably talk to this better than I can, but if I remember correctly, it's based on you record at the end of the season.  When I lived in England back in the 80's, it was common from some teams to move up and down from one division to the other every year, because they're a top four team in the lower division, but a bottom four team in the upper division. 

Bottom 3 go down each season.
Top 2 come up, and #s 3-6 have a 2-round playoff to determine the 3d team coming up.

In the EPL, the top division is 20 teams. You play everyone home-and-home, for a total of 38 games.  The team on top on the last day wins the league; there is no "playoff" afterwards.  There are other concurrent knockout tournaments that go on over top of the league season, such as the FA cup.

The next division down in England - called "the Championship" - is 24 teams, as are League One and League Two (the two divisions below that).  Same thing w/ promotion and relegation there.  So you can earn your way up from the equivalent of single-A to the major leagues by playing well enough to win your way up.

If you want to talk more about this, let's shift over to the soccer thread, and I'll cross post this there.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 06, 2015, 08:56:47 PM
What sort of Euro nonsense is this!  I cannot even imagine trying to keep up with that system.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 06, 2015, 09:03:24 PM
it actually makes a shit-ton of sense.  Everyone plays everyone else home-and-home.  The team with the best record at the end of the year wins the title.  They played everyone, everywhere, so there's no need for an end-of-season tournament.  If you suck hard enough, you get to suck in a lower league instead, and someone from the lower league gets to take their shot at the big time.

About 10 years or so ago, Kaiserslautern got promoted to the top division in Germany (1. Bundesliga) and promptly won the title in their first season up.  It'd be the equivalent of the Durham Bulls replacing the Astros, and then winning the World Series that same season.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 06, 2015, 09:04:52 PM
Ironically the Durham Bulls could probably post as good of a winning percentage of the Astros.  Let's give it a go!
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 06, 2015, 09:19:47 PM
Ironically the Durham Bulls could probably post as good of a winning percentage of the Astros.  Let's give it a go!

You, me, and 9 guys from the pub could do better than the Astros.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 06, 2015, 09:25:17 PM
Ironically the Durham Bulls could probably post as good of a winning percentage of the Astros.  Let's give it a go!

You, me, and 9 guys from the pub could do better than the Astros.

I assume we all get to be on the field at the same time as some sort of handicap rule right?
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 07, 2015, 07:25:52 AM
I assume we all get to be on the field at the same time as some sort of handicap rule right?

Well, between you and me, we still need one more person to a full set of working knees.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 07, 2015, 02:12:21 PM
That way the Indiana's, Colorado's, Vanderbilt's, NC States, etc, get moved down

Suck it - over the past 30 years, NC State is 186-150-3 (since Dick Sheridan was hired in '86) and none of the coaches - Sheridan, O'Cain, Amato, O'Brien - had losing records.  Doeren does right now b/c last year's retooling was so painful, but they tied for biggest turnaround in a season this year (going from 3 wins to 8 ).  Hell even the year O'Brien got canned they were an 8-win bowl team.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on January 07, 2015, 06:43:53 PM
Before we started talking about relegation, you had been much too quiet.  Had to do something to get your interest back in this thread :)

As for how to structure college football.  Instead of four 16 team conferences, I would go with two 13 team conferences.  Each plays every other team in their conference.  The conferences winners then play for the national championship.  The two bottom teams from each conference could then be relegated to the next division down.  Currently, only the top 25 teams are ranked, so I'm not sure that there is much reason to go beyond 26 in the top division.

The one thing I think most people will miss from the current structure is that the rivalry games will disappear.  No more OSU-Michigan or Alabama-Auburn, etc.  Unless they happen to play each other in the regular season or the championship game.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 07, 2015, 06:51:11 PM
Or we could just use the current conferences give them each a playoff spot and let them play the games.  The only change needed would be to insure there isn't an odd number of conferences.  No at large bids.  Win your conference or go study for your final exams.  Period. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on January 07, 2015, 08:44:41 PM
(https://scontent-b-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10898070_746311975450556_4396201309567518856_n.png?oh=1ff0d5156cdeeea66e6a9437faa02837&oe=5520C813)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on January 07, 2015, 09:01:15 PM
For four 16's, I would go the seven in your own division, four from the other and one from each of the other three conferences.  Should be able to keep most of your classic matchups intact, give every four year class a chance to play home and home against the other division as well as their own.  The three non-conference games should be decided on some sort of strength of schedule metric using the previous year as determinant.  That's 14 games and puts you at Thanksgiving.  You could have this all wrapped up by New Year's Day.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 07, 2015, 09:03:22 PM
I say we just determine the national champion with a magic 8 ball.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on January 08, 2015, 04:28:31 AM
I say we just determine the national champion with a magic 8 ball.

Isn't that how we did it until this year?   :-\
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 08, 2015, 04:32:08 AM
Well, for 16 years we've "settled it on the field" by matching up #1 & #2.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 08, 2015, 04:32:22 AM
I say we just determine the national champion with a magic 8 ball.

Isn't that how we did it until this year?   :-\

Similar but I want it to be a nationally televised event with pre-shake and post-shake commentary and reactions from the experts. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 08, 2015, 04:32:57 AM
Well, for 16 years we've "settled it on the field" by matching up #1 & #2.

Sure but they were "1" and "2".
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 08, 2015, 05:38:46 AM
(http://assets.amuniversal.com/7380c0d070e00132b90d005056a9545d)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 08, 2015, 07:33:26 AM
^ Haha.  That's pretty funny.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on January 08, 2015, 12:21:20 PM
(https://scontent-b-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10898070_746311975450556_4396201309567518856_n.png?oh=1ff0d5156cdeeea66e6a9437faa02837&oe=5520C813)

It would've been better if they'd been on marionette strings attached to Jerry Jones, but otherwise yeah that's about right. 

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on January 08, 2015, 11:08:49 PM
somehow it involves obama care a muslims.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: endfire79 on January 09, 2015, 05:53:12 AM
I say Cowboys will win, seahawks win super bowl though
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: endfire79 on January 09, 2015, 12:47:41 PM
playing devils advocate :) 

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/five-reasons-the-detroit-lions-can-t-complain-about-the-non-call-013921557.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/five-reasons-the-detroit-lions-can-t-complain-about-the-non-call-013921557.html)

Yes they complained about the interference, but detroit avoided getting any calls on roughing the Dallas kicker. 

I enjoy ice-bowls - mammoths in the snow!
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on January 10, 2015, 06:16:20 PM
For those of you not watching the Pats-Ravens, you missed a game for the ages.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on January 10, 2015, 06:19:17 PM
WOW, what a game between the Pats and Ravens! That's what the playoffs are all about!

I'm neither a Patriots fan nor hater, I feel about them like I felt about the Steelers back in the day when they were beating my Oilers and Cowboys on a regular basis. I respect their game. They're winners. Tom Brady, damn....what can you say about that guy? I don't think there is anyone in the entire NFL who wants to win more than Tom. You gotta admire that in an athlete.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on January 10, 2015, 06:39:21 PM
Meanwhile, Carolina vs. Seattle = zzzzzz.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on January 10, 2015, 06:39:46 PM
Brady is a competitor for sure. There were many great moments in that game. The Edelman touchdown pass was my personal favorite.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on January 10, 2015, 06:46:36 PM
I would really like to see Pats/Seahawks in the Super Bowl.  Several reasons, not the least of which is, I want Tom Brady to win one more before he retires.  Most of the "All Time GREATS," I can't stand.  But I like Brady.  Plus, my good friend is a big Pete Carroll/USC/Seahawks fan and I have to hear about all three and I can't STAND any of them!
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on January 10, 2015, 06:52:19 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing the Pats beat a Pete Carroll lead Seahawks team.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on January 10, 2015, 07:08:04 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing the Pats beat a Pete Carroll lead Seahawks team.

Ditto. And what a game that would be.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on January 10, 2015, 07:15:32 PM
I'm guessing that Brady and the Pats won't choke to the Seahawks like Manning and the Broncos did.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 10, 2015, 07:16:18 PM
I'm pulling for Manning to win one more so he can retire and I can stop seeing him in every other commercial played during a game.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on January 10, 2015, 07:28:44 PM
If he wins one, he'll be in even more commercials.

He's a whore, but he's a rich, rich man.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on January 10, 2015, 07:33:01 PM
My only gripe about Manning is that the media made him to be the best quarterback ever, before he had ever one his first playoff game. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: endfire79 on January 10, 2015, 07:37:03 PM
My only gripe about Manning is that the media made him to be the best quarterback ever, before he had ever one his first playoff game.
+1
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 10, 2015, 07:46:16 PM
well, with the Saints out, I gotta go with "most NC State alums" and that's Seattle.  Wilson, Sweezy, and Hauschka are all NC State guys.  Sweezy was actually a d-lineman in college, signed a free agent contact w/ Seattle, and made the team as an undrafted free agent while changing positions to o-line.  Not too shabby.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: endfire79 on January 10, 2015, 07:53:34 PM
I missed the pats ravens game today, my car got stuck in snow on my way to bank!  Checking highlights.

I saw this on reddit today, penalty's a tad harsh wasn't it?  ;)

(http://i.imgur.com/MkVcfL8.jpg)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on January 10, 2015, 08:14:34 PM
I missed the pats ravens game today, my car got stuck in snow on my way to bank!  Checking highlights.

I saw this on reddit today, penalty's a tad harsh wasn't it?  ;)

(http://i.imgur.com/MkVcfL8.jpg)


Ha! I got a laugh out of that too, "That puts the Ravens well outside of Foxborough to start the drive".
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on January 10, 2015, 08:15:40 PM
^That's pretty damn funny. Saaayyyyy, by any chance did those same officials happen to work the Dallas/Detroit game last week???

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on January 11, 2015, 08:11:30 AM
Manning is another one I don't like.  He's been a choker since Tennessee.  The best stat I saw last night was that Manning is 11 & 12 in the playoffs and the 12 losses are the most by any quarterback ever.  THAT'S a record I'm GLAD he has :)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 11, 2015, 10:38:04 AM
Yeah well, to have 12 playoff losses, you have to make the playoffs at least 12 times, too. I don't like the guy and I think he's overrated, but he's been to the playoffs more times than my favorite team has in franchise history
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on January 11, 2015, 11:14:44 AM
GO PACK! 


...Ugh.  :buck2: 

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 11, 2015, 12:47:31 PM
GO PACK! 


...Ugh.  :buck2:

Never will those words exit my mouth.  I'm hoping for a Romo extra point fumble redux in Seattle.  :D
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: endfire79 on January 11, 2015, 01:14:54 PM
Booyah :)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Airborne Rifles on January 11, 2015, 01:46:04 PM
GO PACK! 


...Ugh.  :buck2:

Music to my ears.

But I understand, I've got relatives who are Viking fans, and my in-laws are lions fans.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on January 11, 2015, 02:00:41 PM
Just saw a friend post on FB that "Dallas just had the season stolen by the referees." I thought about saying they got there because of the refs, but refrained. :)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on January 11, 2015, 02:07:09 PM
it WAS a damn good catch.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on January 11, 2015, 02:11:14 PM
...And the 'Boys are denied again.  I am content for now.  8) 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on January 11, 2015, 02:15:28 PM
Regardless of whether or not it was a catch, that was a stupid play to call on 4th and 2 when you absolutely have to convert.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on January 11, 2015, 02:28:22 PM
The Cowboys got jobbed.  Only a tie would have made me happy as an outcome, but the Cowboys got jobbed.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on January 11, 2015, 02:31:50 PM
Yeah and it's breaking my heart.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on January 11, 2015, 02:56:01 PM
you have a heart?
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on January 11, 2015, 03:00:15 PM
Yes. I keep it in a silver box on the night stand.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: endfire79 on January 11, 2015, 03:42:40 PM
It was an entertaining game, kept me on the edge of my seat till that call.  I don't understand 100% why they didn't go for the 2.5 yards first down with a quick rush.  I guess they felt the time was running out to get a  lead in the game, who knows.

Go Seahawks!
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on January 11, 2015, 05:32:21 PM
The Payton Manning retirement watch starts up in about....four minutes. Seriously, he looks done. The last half of the season, Manning just hasn't had anything in the tank.

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 11, 2015, 05:41:22 PM
Yeah I think that Manning's retirement train is pulling into the station too.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on January 11, 2015, 05:44:42 PM
There is some word that John Fox may be escorted from the building as well. If this is indeed Payton's last game, it was a very anti-climatic ending to a great career.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on January 11, 2015, 05:53:06 PM
Denver looked beat from the start of that game. Manning's heart isn't in it. Neither is that team's.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on January 11, 2015, 05:56:54 PM
Denver looked beat from the start of that game. Manning's heart isn't in it. Neither is that team's.

Agreed. I truly think the Manning experiment in Denver is done. It will be a shock to me if he returns next year.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Con on January 11, 2015, 06:26:20 PM
You know where they send the ponies that cant finish the race....looks like Payton is off to the Glue Factory

Go Pats

Con
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on January 11, 2015, 06:36:35 PM
Denver looked beat from the start of that game. Manning's heart isn't in it. Neither is that team's.

Agreed. I truly think the Manning experiment in Denver is done. It will be a shock to me if he returns next year.

It's over. I'll be surprised if Manning doesn't retire. Fox is probably out too. And he's a good coach imho.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Arctic Blast on January 12, 2015, 12:04:06 AM
Denver looked awful across the board. Also, who on Earth is running the Dallas defense? Facing a QB hobbling around on one good leg, and they just rush 4...rush 4...rush 4...no pressure? Keep rushing 4...hey, I know, let's rush 4! Still not working? Hmmm...oh, let's try rushing 4! BLITZ. Rodgers is ripping you apart anyway, but maybe you can start putting some heat on the guy! But, we all know that won't matter because ROMOCHOKERROFLMAOHERPADERP.

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on January 12, 2015, 03:27:45 PM
This gives me newfound respect for the Panthers as an organization:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2327113-12-year-old-sends-letter-to-all-32-nfl-teams-and-only-the-panthers-responded

12-Year-Old Sends Letter to All 32 NFL Teams, and Only the Panthers Respond

Quote
Sometimes, it's tough to pick a team to root for. So why not just ask the teams?

That's exactly what 12-year-old Cade Pope did.

The sixth-grader from Oklahoma wrote a letter to every owner of every NFL team asking who he should support. Of the 32 teams, only one responded.

Carolina Panthers owner Jerry Richardson sent Cade a handwritten letter that stated, "Cade, we would be honored if our Carolina Panthers became your team. We would make you proud by the classy way we represent you."

The letter also came with a replica Panthers helmet signed by Pro Bowl linebacker Luke Kuechly.

"If this is the only team that responds to me, I'm a Carolina Panthers fan," said Pope.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 12, 2015, 03:32:37 PM
predictions for tonight?
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on January 12, 2015, 03:33:54 PM
predictions for tonight?

I try to play some more WitW, then I eat a small diet meal, and fall asleep exhausted?
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on January 12, 2015, 04:35:12 PM
predictions for tonight?

Gus watches porn. Longblade changes his Aquaman sheets with the backup set he keeps handy. Star....well, I ain't going there.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 12, 2015, 05:19:21 PM
predictions for tonight?

I try to play some more WitW, then I eat a small diet meal, and fall asleep exhausted?

predictions for tonight that don't involve Suicide Kitty being a dork?

predictions for tonight?

Gus watches porn. Longblade changes his Aquaman sheets with the backup set he keeps handy. Star....well, I ain't going there.

well...  it doesn't involve Kamikatze dorking it up, but that wasn't really the intent of the query, either.



Who's going to win the Ohio St - Oregon game?
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on January 12, 2015, 05:23:50 PM
predictions for tonight that don't involve Suicide Kitty being a dork?

Ain't not gonna be a thing, brah.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on January 12, 2015, 05:35:50 PM
I've got Oregon and the over.  Which is 74 and 1/2.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on January 12, 2015, 06:07:17 PM
Fox is probably out too. And he's a good coach imho.

And the Broncos are looking for a new coach.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 12, 2015, 06:39:10 PM
What the hell is up with the Ducks uniforms?  Boring...

I think the Ducks are the better team, but hopefully the Buckeyes keep it close.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on January 12, 2015, 07:09:15 PM
Fox is probably out too. And he's a good coach imho.

And the Broncos are looking for a new coach.

He'll get another job soon enough. And even if he doesn't, the Broncos just gave him a contract extension last year and owe him for 2 more years.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12156158/john-fox-denver-broncos-head-coach (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12156158/john-fox-denver-broncos-head-coach)

Maybe the Broncos will bring back Josh McDaniels :P
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on January 12, 2015, 07:27:21 PM
This gives me newfound respect for the Panthers as an organization:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2327113-12-year-old-sends-letter-to-all-32-nfl-teams-and-only-the-panthers-responded (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2327113-12-year-old-sends-letter-to-all-32-nfl-teams-and-only-the-panthers-responded)

12-Year-Old Sends Letter to All 32 NFL Teams, and Only the Panthers Respond

Quote
Sometimes, it's tough to pick a team to root for. So why not just ask the teams?

That's exactly what 12-year-old Cade Pope did.

The sixth-grader from Oklahoma wrote a letter to every owner of every NFL team asking who he should support. Of the 32 teams, only one responded.

Carolina Panthers owner Jerry Richardson sent Cade a handwritten letter that stated, "Cade, we would be honored if our Carolina Panthers became your team. We would make you proud by the classy way we represent you."

The letter also came with a replica Panthers helmet signed by Pro Bowl linebacker Luke Kuechly.

"If this is the only team that responds to me, I'm a Carolina Panthers fan," said Pope.

Ah yes, the very classy Carolina Panthers  ::)



http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/panthers/2014/09/11/jerry-richardson-emtoinal-breaks-down-domestic-violence-greg-hardy/15430075/

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/panthers-teammates-want-to-see-greg-hardy-back-011115

Quote
''A guy of that caliber, we need him,'' Panthers cornerback Josh Norman said Sunday
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on January 12, 2015, 07:44:19 PM
*cough* *cough* nice job State!
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 12, 2015, 07:50:15 PM
I'm not sure who the Broncos could bring in that they think will be an upgrade at coach over Fox.  I think Manning is done and the rebuilding is coming.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on January 12, 2015, 07:53:40 PM
I'm not sure who the Broncos could bring in that they think will be an upgrade at coach over Fox.  I think Manning is done and the rebuilding is coming.

Agreed on both. Teams are going to be fighting to land Fox.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on January 12, 2015, 08:00:08 PM
Especially with Ryan off the market already
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on January 12, 2015, 08:44:12 PM
I'm not sure who the Broncos could bring in that they think will be an upgrade at coach over Fox.  I think Manning is done and the rebuilding is coming.

I think the only way it makes sense is if they are going to promote Gase to give Manning one more shot. Otherwise, Elway may be thinking post-Manning and an offensive reshuffle.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on January 12, 2015, 08:55:30 PM
If Manning retires, who is the Broncos second string QB.  Do they look to draft one.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on January 12, 2015, 09:01:31 PM
Well, Jones just imitated Winston with that fumble.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 12, 2015, 09:03:51 PM
Yeah OSU is falling apart at the start of the 2nd half.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 12, 2015, 09:13:22 PM
Who the hell thought showing tweets from famous people during the game is a good idea.  I don't give two flying fucks what LeBron James has to say about the game.  Good grief.  American sports and the broadcasting of American sports is beginning to suck donkey nuts.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on January 12, 2015, 09:16:23 PM
Looking more and more like I took the wrong side in this.  No Oregon.  No over.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 12, 2015, 09:18:25 PM
The coaches' room on ESPN2 is freaking awesome. They're breaking down plays and strategy so clean, and predicting plays so well it's amazing.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on January 12, 2015, 09:43:29 PM
Glad Mariota is back. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on January 13, 2015, 05:01:25 AM
If Manning retires, who is the Broncos second string QB.  Do they look to draft one.

Brock Osweiler from Arizona State. He was selected in the second round, I believe, and has been groomed as Manning's replacement since day one. They will need to draft a backup QB, but there is every reason to believe Osweiler will be the starter once Manning has left the building.

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7450/brock-osweiler (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7450/brock-osweiler)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on January 13, 2015, 05:06:14 AM
Ah yes, the very classy Carolina Panthers  ::)

Ah, well. It was a nice gesture to make to a 12-year-old. Although I'm not so naive that I don't think there was some hope for good PR behind it in the first place.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 13, 2015, 05:34:30 AM
well last night sucked big hairy sweaty monkey nuts. But then you hear the rushing stats, and Ohio State just totally blew the Ducks off the ball all night long. Hard to win it game when you're not even starting to tackle people until five yards downfield. Eesh!
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on January 13, 2015, 07:54:35 AM
What a great game last night.  I never expected Ohio State to dominate Oregon the way they did.  OSU's defense made great adjustments after Oregon's opening drive and TD. 

When has a team been -4 in turnover margin and win by 22.  Oregon only got 10 points off of those turnovers.  If not for them, Buckeyes may have scored another couple of touchdowns.  Oregon's only turnover was on an interception of the last play of the game.

Ezekiel Elliott is a monster.  In his last three games, he has over 200 yards rushing.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 13, 2015, 08:04:43 AM
Ezekiel Elliott is a monster.  In his last three games, he has over 200 yards rushing.

Last night, a lot of that credit goes to the O-line.  I heard a stat on the radio this morning that he had over 100 yards before contact and had 11-12 runs or so where he was 5 or more yards downfield before contact.  The O-line totally dominated that game.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: airboy on January 13, 2015, 04:08:51 PM
well last night sucked big hairy sweaty monkey nuts. But then you hear the rushing stats, and Ohio State just totally blew the Ducks off the ball all night long. Hard to win it game when you're not even starting to tackle people until five yards downfield. Eesh!

Not for the wife and I.  Ohio State was the preferred option.

The Florida State QB is a jerk.
Bama - I live way too close to these people.
Oregon - Can't pull for any team whose uniforms make my eyes bleed.

That leaves Ohio State and their wonderfully dorky and moon faced mascot.  Well played.  Oregon typically gets killed in the final game by a team with an excellent offensive and defensive line - which Oregon on the West Coast almost never sees in play.

Oregon does have pretty nice fans based on going to the 2010 national championship between Auburn and Oregon.  And by the way, Cam Newton was never found to break any NCAA rules at AU and he has been coming back to complete his course work.  So all of the Cam Naysayers should at least be considering eating a little crow.

Dook still sucks.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on January 15, 2015, 07:38:30 AM
With the conclusion of the first College Football Playoff series, what are your opinions.  Did the best team win, or just the team that played the best that night.  Should the number of teams stay at 4 or expand to 6 or 8.  Did the 4 teams that got in this year deserve to be there or should someone else been there. 

Here are my thoughts.  I think that the team that is playing the best at the end of the year did win. 

I would like to see the number of teams expand to at least 6 but no more than 8.  If it goes to 8, then the top four host the game at their home field.

I'm still not sure that FSU should have been in playoffs this year.  I understand the selection committee is going to have a hard time leaving out an undefeated defending national champ, but I don't think FSU showed that they were that strong this year.  By not sending a message that undefeated and defending champ is not enough to get you back in the next year, they have made it hard going forward to deny any team in the future with the same circumstances but not playing well from getting in.  Unless they expand it for 6 or 8 teams.

I think Baylor should have been there instead. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 15, 2015, 08:05:30 AM
I think putting Baylor in there rewards cupcake scheduling.

FSU has a mandated annual game with Florida.  They've sucked lately, but it's still a power-5 bowl team.  This year they added a non-conf neutral-site game with Ok St, at a field that was almost commuting distance to Stillwater.  They beat GT in a conf title game.  There's absolutely no way you can make an argument that they didn't deserve one of the 4 slots in the playoff.  Remember - no one knows how those games are going to look until they're played.

I think Ohio St was the hottest team at the end of the year; I'm not sure they were the most accomplished across the balance of the season (and that's not just my hatred of the Buckeyes talking). 

Mike and Mike summed it up well the other morning with Greenberg expressing it this way:
There's the 'best team over the course of the season' and then there's the 'champion' and they aren't necessarily the same thing.

How often does one of the 1-seeds win the Super Bowl?  How often does the #1 team win the NCAA tournament?  How many wild card teams have won the World Series?
Greenberg's point was that in college football, more often than not the 'best team over the course of the season' and the 'champion' were the same thing.  By adding more teams into a playoff, you increase the likelihood that they will not be the same.  This year, I think, was one of those years.  Ohio State earned it under the rules for this season, and kudos to them for taking advantage of the opportunity afforded them by those rules.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Marty Ward on January 15, 2015, 08:38:20 AM
With the conclusion of the first College Football Playoff series, what are your opinions.  Did the best team win, or just the team that played the best that night.  Should the number of teams stay at 4 or expand to 6 or 8.  Did the 4 teams that got in this year deserve to be there or should someone else been there. 

Here are my thoughts.  I think that the team that is playing the best at the end of the year did win. 

I would like to see the number of teams expand to at least 6 but no more than 8.  If it goes to 8, then the top four host the game at their home field.

I'm still not sure that FSU should have been in playoffs this year.  I understand the selection committee is going to have a hard time leaving out an undefeated defending national champ, but I don't think FSU showed that they were that strong this year.  By not sending a message that undefeated and defending champ is not enough to get you back in the next year, they have made it hard going forward to deny any team in the future with the same circumstances but not playing well from getting in.  Unless they expand it for 6 or 8 teams.

I think Baylor should have been there instead.

The team that played best Monday won. The team who plays best in the championship game will always win. Whether they are the 'best' team doesn't really matter.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 15, 2015, 09:38:55 AM
if you want to learn a LOT about college football, and how it's actually run and not just played, you could do a lot worse than listening to these
http://www.wralsportsfan.com/logan_zone/11677809/

He also covers a lot of pro football, too, but his college stories are much better.  The video is just the guys talking in a radio studio, so you can put it on in the background and listen while you do other stuff.  Totally worth listening to and getting some great war stories from the inside.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 15, 2015, 12:44:28 PM
if you want to learn a LOT about college football, and how it's actually run and not just played, you could do a lot worse than listening to these
http://www.wralsportsfan.com/logan_zone/11677809/

He also covers a lot of pro football, too, but his college stories are much better.  The video is just the guys talking in a radio studio, so you can put it on in the background and listen while you do other stuff.  Totally worth listening to and getting some great war stories from the inside.


this one about killing the clock is hilarious
http://www.wralsportsfan.com/colleges/video/14249791/

starts around the 4:35 mark or so
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on January 15, 2015, 04:54:34 PM
If you don't put FSU in, and they win their bowl game, then how does that look for your Playoff Champion?
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 18, 2015, 04:03:52 PM
This is a horrible weekend for me.  All I want is to see Rodgers, Carroll, and Bill and Tom all cry.  Ugh.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on January 18, 2015, 04:13:00 PM
This is a horrible weekend for me.  All I want is to see Rodgers, Carroll, and Bill and Tom all cry.  Ugh.

You may get to see Rodgers cry. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 18, 2015, 04:15:45 PM
This is a horrible weekend for me.  All I want is to see Rodgers, Carroll, and Bill and Tom all cry.  Ugh.

You may get to see Rodgers cry.

Yeah that'll be sweet then maybe Luck and make the others cry later and Carroll and the annoying Seahawks fans cry in the Super Bowl.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on January 18, 2015, 04:22:45 PM
I would love to see Brady win another one.  And beat either NFC team doing it.  Although, the Packers would be a bit of payback from the 90's.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 18, 2015, 04:29:54 PM
SEAHAWKS WIN!
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on January 18, 2015, 04:32:28 PM
Ha!  And I only started watching this game with about 4 mins left in the fourth.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 18, 2015, 04:34:16 PM
I would love to see Brady win another one.  And beat either NFC team doing it.  Although, the Packers would be a bit of payback from the 90's.

Brady can kiss my ass.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 18, 2015, 04:34:44 PM
SEAHAWKS WIN!

This is why I hate Seattle fans.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on January 18, 2015, 04:35:26 PM
Just goes to show what I know.  I figured Seattle for a beat down of GB.  With Rogers hurt and that vicious Seattle D coupled with the weather and the 12th man, game over player Packers.  I love the spirit Wilson showed, going for the kill on the first drive in OT.  Wilson in the FB convo at profootballmock is going to be GOOD this week  :2funny:
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 18, 2015, 04:38:39 PM
This is why I hate Seattle fans.

I'm not a Seattle fan, I'm and NC State fan.  Seattle has more former Wolfpack players than the other 3 teams combined, so I'm cheering for them out of who's left.  I'd rather be cheering for the Saints, but they shit the bed in the regular season and couldn't even get into the tournament.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 18, 2015, 04:44:44 PM
All watching championship weekend really does for me is it reinvigorates my desire to punch Gary Anderson in the face.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 18, 2015, 04:47:33 PM
So Terry Bradshaw said that the trophy is being presented by "the only Hall of Famer in the history of the Seattle Seahawks, Steve Largent".
I wonder who gets to tell Cortez Kennedy he's been kicked out of the Hall of Fame. Dude's been in since 2012 and played all 11 years with Seattle.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on January 18, 2015, 04:47:46 PM
HAHAHAHAHA!  A lot of franchises have that moment or sentiment.  I was watching that game.  I remember the announcer jinxing Anderson was lining it up.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on January 18, 2015, 04:52:05 PM
So Terry Bradshaw said that the trophy is being presented by "the only Hall of Famer in the history of the Seattle Seahawks, Steve Largent".
I wonder who gets to tell Cortez Kennedy he's been kicked out of the Hall of Fame. Dude's been in since 2012 and played all 11 years with Seattle.

Their big tackle, Walter Jones, would beg to differ, too.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: -budd- on January 18, 2015, 05:57:35 PM
Now that my heart has started again..................FU*K YEA  :D  ;D ......SOB...WHAT A COMEBACK....you could see there was no safety in the middle presnap.....nice audible Russ O0 ......nice redemption for Kearse.

(http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/o484/ronnie8691/kearsecatch_zps13c1e354.jpg)


We're going to the super bowl......Still can't believe that finish...WOW
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: -budd- on January 18, 2015, 06:03:21 PM
(http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/o484/ronnie8691/nfcchampions_zpsdabe468d.jpg)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 18, 2015, 06:17:24 PM
Ugh...I'm giving up on football.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 18, 2015, 07:43:20 PM
The Colts need a running game, defense, and legitimate deep threat receivers.  Otherwise Luck will become the new Peyton in more than being the quarterback of the Colts.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Arctic Blast on January 18, 2015, 07:50:46 PM
The Colts need a running game, defense, and legitimate deep threat receivers.  Otherwise Luck will become the new Peyton in more than being the quarterback of the Colts.

Pretty much. But the organization keeps blowing free agent dollars and draft picks on average-at-best talent and godawful trades.

Oh, and to Hell with the Seahawks. How I loathe that franchise.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on January 18, 2015, 07:59:13 PM
Pats vs. Seahawks. Could be a great game. I gotta go with the Pats.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on January 18, 2015, 08:03:11 PM
I would love nothing more than to see Brady surgically destroy Seattle.  For two reasons: 1) I hate the Seahawks and 2) it'll be something ELSE Tom Brady has done that Peyton Manning hasn't.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Marty Ward on January 19, 2015, 06:35:14 AM
Ha!  And I only started watching this game with about 4 mins left in the fourth.

You saw the best parts then. What a comeback!
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 19, 2015, 09:20:50 AM
I don't even think I'll watch the Super Bowl this year.

Seahawks.  I cannot stand Pete Carroll or the loud mouths on the defense.  Patriots.  I cannot stand Bill Belichick and Tom Brady.  Halftime show is Kate Perry.  /shutter/ It's like a vortex of all things I cannot stand converging into a singular time and place, which may very well end up destroying the space time continuum.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on January 19, 2015, 09:28:51 AM
I truly don't understand Patriot haters, unless you're a New York team. The Steelers of the 70's used to kick my Oiler's butts, then go destroy my Cowboys in the Super Bowl, but I always had to respect what a magnificent football team the Steelers were. That's how I feel about the Pats. They put the work in, year after year, they play a smart front office game and Brady, dear God, what more could anyone want in a quarterback? You can't discuss the top coaches of all time and not give Belichick his due. Hell, another Super Bowl win and maybe they should rename the Lombardi Trophy after him.

I love the Cowboys, but I can see why some people hate them. The Pats? I don't get that.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 19, 2015, 09:29:30 AM
I'm going to vomit now.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on January 19, 2015, 09:30:22 AM
I'm going to vomit now.

Use a bag or be quick to the men's room  8)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on January 19, 2015, 09:32:03 AM
I'm going to vomit now.

Male morning sickness is the worst :P
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on January 19, 2015, 09:33:30 AM
I'm with you, Bison. Halftime shows SUCK at The Super Bowl. The last decent one was U2 in 2002, and their tribute to the 9/11 victims. Otherwise I cannot imagine actual football fans liking homoerotic autotuned shite like Perry, Mars, Timberlake, and the other fake pop singers...like audio cotton candy for mouthbreathers. It's all friggin' lip-synched anyway. Might as well tell everyone to pull up a YouTube video.

I don't care about the Seahawks or the Pats either so I'll give this a pass.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 19, 2015, 09:33:51 AM


/shutter/
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on January 19, 2015, 09:36:10 AM
Halftime is when you should refill your drinks, your snacks, and empty your bladder. I never watch the halftime show, not even when Springsteen played.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Marty Ward on January 19, 2015, 09:41:40 AM
Well the two #1 seeds will play so it should be a pretty good game. I'm not wild about either team but I never pass on a reason to have a party.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 19, 2015, 09:42:54 AM
I didn't mind the Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers halftime show, but he played 3 solo tunes and 1 Heartbreakers song.

I did get a kick out of some folks on TV the day after the last Super Bowl wondering "who were those old white guys?"  Uh, they're in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 19, 2015, 09:43:09 AM
Well the two #1 seeds will play so it should be a pretty good game. I'm not wild about either team but I never pass on a reason to have a party.

+1.82347909238475
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 19, 2015, 10:11:16 AM
Can we start the 2015 Football thread now?  I want to start bashing Romo again.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on January 19, 2015, 10:14:38 AM
I didn't mind the Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers halftime show, but he played 3 solo tunes and 1 Heartbreakers song.

I did get a kick out of some folks on TV the day after the last Super Bowl wondering "who were those old white guys?"  Uh, they're in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.

I must stand corrected and admit I did watch Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers.  Wouldn't have missed that one.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 19, 2015, 10:27:04 AM
Can we start the 2015 Football thread now?  I want to start bashing Romo again.

post-Super Bowl :)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 19, 2015, 10:34:52 AM
I'm in a sporting abyss right now.   Reporting for spring training is still 30 days away.  Oh the humanity!
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: -budd- on January 19, 2015, 11:35:04 AM
Bring on the Patriots.......it should be interesting, we ain't the Colts. Colts aren't a physical team and missed a lot of tackles and gave up a lot of YAC, things we generally don't do. The Patriots are physical but not that fast on offense or defense, look for a lot of pick plays by the patriot and for them to try to run up the middle on us. If we open the game like we did against the Packers were dead, Patriots will step on us, but i don't see that happening.We have to get pressure on Brady....it's not like we don't know where to find him.

By the time the game comes i expect the Patriots love fest to be in full effect, just like the Denver love fest last year. Greatest offense ever....yada, yada, yada. This year it will be Bill Belicheck...yada,yada,yada, .....Tom Brady ...yada,yada,yada...so on and so forth. I look for Russell to keep his unbeaten streak against the top QB's intact.

Russell Wilson now 7-0 in games against Brady, Brees, Manning, Rodgers

Go HAWKS
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on January 19, 2015, 12:19:13 PM
I think it's going to be an excellent matchup between two worthy contenders. You're right, the 'Hawks can't play offense like they did yesterday. Let the Pats get their foot on your neck like the Packers were doing for most of the game and it's game over. You can't count on that kind of a comeback two weeks in a row. I don't see Belicheck being a sissy on two 4th and goal situations either, like McCarthy was.

I love the thought of the Legion of Boom up against Brady, Gronk and co. I almost wish the entire game could be the Patriots offense vs. the Seahawks defense  O0  I'm not sure how the 'Hawks are gonna handle Gronk, but I expect Lynch to give the Pats trouble as well.

You gotta give both teams their due. Both will belong on the field come SuperBowl Sunday. Hope it's a game for the ages!

38-35 Patriots with bodies left on the field.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on January 19, 2015, 12:30:07 PM
Just saw where Vegas is calling the Super Bowl odds as "pick 'em". There has been, at most, a one point favorite swing for the Pats, but otherwise the oddsmakers are calling this one dead even. Sweet  >:D



http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/opening-super-bowl-gambling-point-spread-fortells-a-close-game-032049551.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/opening-super-bowl-gambling-point-spread-fortells-a-close-game-032049551.html)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: -budd- on January 19, 2015, 01:01:09 PM
I think we'll do fine against Gronk, we have in the past. probably a mix of coverage, Wright has done a good job on him in the past, Gronk won't have a speed advantage against our linebackers but he does know how to use his body to shield a defender. A lot of the Patriots pre- snap mumbo jumbo won't effect us as we just line up in our base D and just play. I am looking forward to Bam Bam Cam meeting Gronk across the middle.....Cam is a bad man.I'm looking forward to see the game plans of the coaches. Didn't Belicheck replace Carroll after he was fired from New England, I'm sure Carroll remembers that.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on January 19, 2015, 01:46:23 PM
Didn't Belicheck replace Carroll after he was fired from New England, I'm sure Carroll remembers that.

Yes. Belichick resigned the same day he was named head coach of the Jets and took the Pats job that Carroll was fired from. It was a big todo at the time with alot of pissed off people on both teams. Jets fans still haven't gotten over it :P

Carroll's cheerleader attitude was never well received here in New England. Taking over from Parcell's didn't do him any favors with Pats fans either.

"Sauce for the goose, Mr. Saavik".
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on January 19, 2015, 01:56:39 PM
This is the sordid story behind Parcells and Belichick and the Pats/Jets.

http://www.realclearsports.com/lists/short_coaching_stints/bill_belichick_jets.html (http://www.realclearsports.com/lists/short_coaching_stints/bill_belichick_jets.html)

Carroll was the poor SOB who took over after Parcells, who got the Pats to the '96 Super Bowl. Pretty much anyone who took the job immediately after Parcells was doomed.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Arctic Blast on January 20, 2015, 12:49:35 AM
I'm with you, Bison. Halftime shows SUCK at The Super Bowl. The last decent one was U2 in 2002, and their tribute to the 9/11 victims. Otherwise I cannot imagine actual football fans liking homoerotic autotuned shite like Perry, Mars, Timberlake, and the other fake pop singers...like audio cotton candy for mouthbreathers. It's all friggin' lip-synched anyway. Might as well tell everyone to pull up a YouTube video.


Prince was awesome at halftime 2007.

As for the game :

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2927/14507910254_0f992a5f0f_z.jpg)

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on January 20, 2015, 01:07:21 AM
I truly don't understand Patriot haters

as a South Florida resident I can honestly say the hate comes from the fan base everyone else has to deal with.  at least they arent Jets fans is about the best thing I can say.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on January 20, 2015, 05:11:31 AM
I truly don't understand Patriot haters

as a South Florida resident I can honestly say the hate comes from the fan base everyone else has to deal with.  at least they arent Jets fans is about the best thing I can say.

That's exactly how I feel about Philadelphia Eagle fans. Good perspective.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: endfire79 on January 21, 2015, 01:26:22 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/MpjfyaY.jpg)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: endfire79 on January 21, 2015, 02:03:41 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/1412Nk9.jpg)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 21, 2015, 02:15:14 PM
I was just getting ready to post that ;)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on January 21, 2015, 02:23:06 PM
The Seahawks-Packers match-up was a hell of a game.  One of the best NFC championships I've seen in a long time. 

And with Seattle going up against New England in the Super Bowl, there's no question about who I'm going to be rooting for/against.  :P 




I truly don't understand Patriot haters

as a South Florida resident I can honestly say the hate comes from the fan base everyone else has to deal with. 

This.  I dislike the Red Sox for the same reason. 

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 22, 2015, 07:01:48 AM
It's shit like this that really pisses me off about the Patriots.   They are always surrounded in some sort of underhanded, cheating speculation or proved underhanded, cheating event.  I also think Belichick is douche. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: endfire79 on January 22, 2015, 08:35:46 AM
Question to you all: why doesn't NFL only allow balls brought in by the league officials?
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Marty Ward on January 22, 2015, 08:51:24 AM
Question to you all: why doesn't NFL only allow balls brought in by the league officials?

Who brings the balls is not the issue, they were all checked prior to the game and found to be within spec. Perhaps they should have league officials be the ones who keep track of the balls during the game as that would be where any changes would be made.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on January 22, 2015, 04:32:07 PM
Whew!  Brady knows nothing about balls being underinflated.  I worried that he may have noticed something funny with the balls after all of those hikes and not have said something.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on January 22, 2015, 11:38:05 PM
The Seahawks-Packers match-up was a hell of a game. 

what game were you watching?
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on January 23, 2015, 06:54:18 AM
Personally, I think each team should be allowed to inflate/deflate the balls to whatever the hell the QB prefers. Other QB's have chimed in about how balls are put in dryers, have sandpaper run over them, all kinds of things. So long as you're not putting an illegal substance on them, i.e. stickem, it shouldn't be an issue. Let the visiting team do the same damn thing with their balls. Brady likes them under-inflated, Rogers likes them over-inflated, cool. Just leave the kicking balls with the officials and let each team prep their own balls the way they like.

I get that someone on the Pats bent the rules here, but I question as to why it should be a rule.  NFL has so damn many rules already the refs can't keep track. I'd like to see it changed.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Marty Ward on January 23, 2015, 07:06:15 AM
I don't know if Brady actually knows WHO deflated the balls but he had to know they felt different. I mean he is the ultimate student of the game and knows every little detail. There is no way he didn't know the balls felt low on pressure.

In baseball a pitcher can be ejected for throwing an altered ball whether he altered it or it was caused by using the ball in play or if another player scuffed it. They have to throw the ball to the ump for inspection. If there is a rule about the ball inflation then it must also be on any player who can tell if the ball has been altered to alert the refs or face the penalty.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 23, 2015, 07:31:35 AM
Steve Logan was on here this morning with some good perspective.  He made 2 key points:

1. Go walk around downtown and see how many people are jaywalking.  Now there's no doubt a law on the books that says "don't jaywalk" but but no one gives a rip, until the police start enforcing it.  If you suddenly see all over the news "jaywalkers arrested" it's not like the rest of the planet was never jaywalking, but they're going to stop doing it right now while there's scrutiny on it.

2.  They did get caught, and the officials did their job enforcing the rules.  Just like when an offensive lineman gets called for holding - that doesn't mean he wasn't holding the play before, or won't be holding the next play.  It means he got caught on that play.  The other team is holding, too - and when they get caught, they get penalized.  But that's not stopping them from holding.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Con on January 23, 2015, 07:35:51 AM
First of all this is not about anything that altered the outcome of this or pretty much any game

I deal in a world of specs and measurements at work and this is a classic example of a poorly thought out rule

1. If the NFL thought that ball pressure was so important then it should not leave those balls in possesion of any teams.  It would be like the home team providing the refs.  Either define the end state (both teams play with the same ball) or not.  If Both teams need to play with the same ball then take the ball away from them.  I feel that this is a legacy rule left in the arcane rule book of the NFL.
2. If you have a rule then enforce it consistantly.  This is the real issue that the NFL is facing.  They have written a rule and then dont bother being consisitant with it.  Some teams over inflate some teams scuff some under inflate.  The NFL doesnt monitor the balls and does not punish those who have been caught altering the balls in the past.
3. A spec has to be written then you have to understand the consequences.  You need to have a statistical model of probability and understand where you fall in that statistical model of probability (ie CPKs from the mean).  This means that if the balls are inflated to the lowest and highest level of PSI allowed in the window of the spec that you need to know all the parameters that can impact that spec during the game.  This includes weather temp, error of measurement, calibration of pressure gauges, standard error of measurement in these gauges, training of the people taking the measurements, quality of the balls ability to maintain specified pressure over many different lots, impacts of 300lb lineman on them on turf, grass, cement etc.
4. Lastly you need a quality system in place to show that you know what you are measuring when you are measuring it and that you can prove that you have done it correctly.

None of these are in place for this stupid rule thus the NFL cannot actually prove that anything was altered during the course of the game.  Its all speculation and finger pointing with no clear concrete path forward that was propagated by the fact that the NFL didn't actually enforce it to start with.

What a mess

Con
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Tuna on January 23, 2015, 07:39:27 AM
They should change the name of this fiasco to HateGate.

The Linebacker who intercepted and supposedly the incident started because of, has stated, that he did not feel a difference.. The ref's who are handling the balls every play, did not feel a difference (or at least haven't said that as far as I know)..

We get this 'tidbit' the the NFL said 11 of 12 balls deflated.. Yet not one other word from the NFL (including Brady or Bellicheck not being contacted) for the whole week. Really pretty shady.

Agree with Con, i was surprised to learn that officials aren't in charge of balls the whole game, just like in Baseball.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on January 23, 2015, 07:43:03 AM
The NFL is pretty much a moral-free community, so I'm not sure why everyone's acting so surprised.

Really...everyone's going to get worked up into a tizzy over this when the NFL allows murderers, drug users/dealers, and other filthy lawbreakers and sociopaths to do whatever they want? Meh.

Personally I could give zero flucks about this. Never liked the Patriots though, which comes mostly from being a Dolphins fan many years ago.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Con on January 23, 2015, 07:47:29 AM
I honestly feel that Kraft should give the NFL a kick in the nuts and say

So ball pressure is the one rule that is more important than all the others in the rule book that you want to enforce now fine then we forfeit and the Pats will not play in the superbowl.  Award it to the Seahawks now with an asterix

Then watch the shit really hit the fan as the sponsors and fans go ballistic with no Superbowl

Con
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 23, 2015, 07:55:31 AM
I honestly feel that Kraft should give the NFL a kick in the nuts and say

So ball pressure is the one rule that is more important than all the others in the rule book that you want to enforce now fine then we forfeit and the Pats will not play in the superbowl.  Award it to the Seahawks now with an asterix

Then watch the shit really hit the fan as the sponsors and fans go ballistic with no Superbowl

Con

that would be absolutely hilarious.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on January 23, 2015, 07:56:40 AM
It WOULD be frigging fantastic! But that would never happen. Money talks.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 23, 2015, 08:09:38 AM
it's not like Kraft needs the money
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Marty Ward on January 23, 2015, 08:28:17 AM

None of these are in place for this stupid rule thus the NFL cannot actually prove that anything was altered during the course of the game.  Its all speculation and finger pointing with no clear concrete path forward that was propagated by the fact that the NFL didn't actually enforce it to start with.

What a mess

Con

The fact that they were within spec before the game and not after does mean, absent a defective valve on 11 of the 12 balls, they can tell something was altered.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Marty Ward on January 23, 2015, 08:31:43 AM
The Pats should man up at and least admit that whatever happened happened when the balls were in their possession and stop trying to change the subject. They are acting like politicians instead of sportsman.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: endfire79 on January 23, 2015, 08:39:56 AM
Part of me wants to try and understand when the NFL follows its rules, but the other part just thinks this is all a big joke.  I think Cons post hit it spot on.
After hearing so much about ball feeling, I just can't keep a straight face anymore.

On a side note, male testicular cancer is no joke, make sure to check those out.

Bring on the lingerie bowl. 

(http://i.imgur.com/dlqOfHP.jpg)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on January 23, 2015, 08:44:14 AM
I'll watch four hours of The Puppy Bowl on Animal Planet before I watch this year's Super Bowl. Watching a bunch of puppies play and the retarded referee and announcing will be infinitely more entertaining than listening to flapping heads say the same damn thing over and over ad nauseum in the twelve-year-long preshow they do.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Con on January 23, 2015, 08:53:30 AM

None of these are in place for this stupid rule thus the NFL cannot actually prove that anything was altered during the course of the game.  Its all speculation and finger pointing with no clear concrete path forward that was propagated by the fact that the NFL didn't actually enforce it to start with.

What a mess

Con

The fact that they were within spec before the game and not after does mean, absent a defective valve on 11 of the 12 balls, they can tell something was altered.

They point I was making is that this spec is a window.  I can without a doubt provide numerous ways that a product (in this case a ball) can be within spec in a controlled environment and out of spec when in play (at a customer site).  This is a basic component of quality manufacturing and quality control.

This is not limited but includes the upper and lower limits of the spec.  The absolute value, where the balls pressure recorded so that there is a record of what they had.  The calibration of the meters, the personnel who ran the test and their training, the protocol for following the test the temp at which the balls were tested versus actually used, the number of times the test was performed (each time it will alter the pressure of the ball) the error of measurement of the testing devices, the type of ball that was being used (brand new out of the box or one that had been used previously) the condition of the ball the number of lots that had been previously tested from the ball manufacturer to define the variability in their product etc etc etc

There is no record of previous testing, no base line data, no understanding of conditions, no application data, no training data no lot to lot variability testing of the balls and finally no chain of custody to ensure the balls were not altered or tampered with by anyone else.  All these are basic and I cannot emphasis this enough basic requirements to have a spec.  Without it the only spec you have is baseless speculation (see what I did there!)

Con

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 23, 2015, 09:42:10 AM
the same damn thing over and over ad nauseum in the twelve-year-long preshow they do.

there's going to be at least 2 EPL matches that morning I'll watch instead
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on January 23, 2015, 09:45:13 AM
Seriously, after my revelation into how the EPL works I'm considering jumping ship from the NFL.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Barthheart on January 23, 2015, 09:47:40 AM
Seriously, after my revelation into how the EPL works I'm considering jumping ship from the NFL.

HOCKEY! Switch to hockey.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 23, 2015, 10:14:10 AM
Seriously, after my revelation into how the EPL works I'm considering jumping ship from the NFL.

HOCKEY! Switch to hockey.

there's room for both - soccer in the morning, hockey at night.  Works perfect in our household.  Well, except that our local team is crap.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on January 23, 2015, 10:30:16 AM
I wish we had seen this level of consensus moral outrage when Ray Rice was punching out his wife and AP was whipping his 4-year old.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-01-22/why-deflategate-says-more-about-the-nfl-than-it-does-about-the-patriots
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Marty Ward on January 23, 2015, 10:49:59 AM

They point I was making is that this spec is a window.  I can without a doubt provide numerous ways that a product (in this case a ball) can be within spec in a controlled environment and out of spec when in play (at a customer site).  This is a basic component of quality manufacturing and quality control.


According to the league the balls are inspected before each game, just like baseballs go through an inspection, and determined to be within the specs so they have the before measurements. If they are again measured using the same equipment, and I doubt they have multiple gauges or scales at each game, then they will have the after measurements. Absent a leaky valve these measurements are accurate enough to say something has been done to the ball. They can't say who did anything or precisely how much they were altered but say they measured 12 psi and X weight for all the balls before the game and they measured 10 psi and x-.5lb after then either there is a leaky valve or the ball was tampered with.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Marty Ward on January 23, 2015, 10:50:49 AM
I wish we had seen this level of consensus moral outrage when Ray Rice was punching out his wife and AP was whipping his 4-year old.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-01-22/why-deflategate-says-more-about-the-nfl-than-it-does-about-the-patriots

Are you serious? The level and consistency of the outrage was pretty much universal, as it should have been.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on January 23, 2015, 11:09:18 AM
I wish we had seen this level of consensus moral outrage when Ray Rice was punching out his wife and AP was whipping his 4-year old.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-01-22/why-deflategate-says-more-about-the-nfl-than-it-does-about-the-patriots (http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-01-22/why-deflategate-says-more-about-the-nfl-than-it-does-about-the-patriots)

Are you serious? The level and consistency of the outrage was pretty much universal, as it should have been.

Totally serious:


makes you wonder why the wife stuck with him...

There's volumes on the subject of domestic violence and how the victims blame themselves or defend the sicko wife beaters who attacked them....frankly, it's not uncommon.

As for Rice, I'm for a lifetime ban. I never want to see him on a football field again. And I'm sickened by the number of Ravens fans who, if no longer actively defending him quite as vigorously, clearly want to minimize what this animal has done. On a talk radio show today, one of these intellectual giants went after the media for wanting to "crucify" Rice. Yeah. Taking up for a wife beater....classy.

Really? Do you know something about Ray Rice that no one else knows?

Do you think every person who does this should be made into a monster, lose the ability to work in their profession forever and be made to where a label on their clothes the rest of their life calling them a serial wife beater when it may have just been something so out of character that what they did is unexplainable?

And this gem:

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/09/charles-barkley-adrian-peterson-video-ray-rice-cbs-nfl-today (http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/09/charles-barkley-adrian-peterson-video-ray-rice-cbs-nfl-today)


Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 23, 2015, 12:18:08 PM
much better NFL article here:

the league is being sued...







by an inmate...




(you can't make this up)





for $88 billion - yes, with a "B"...




over the Dez Bryant (non-)catch
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/prisoner-sues-nfl-for--88-billion-over-dez-bryant-s-overturned-catch-154343589.html

Quote
erry Hendrix, an inmate in a Colorado correctional facility, has filed an $88 billion — that's billion with a "B" — lawsuit against the NFL over the reversal. The total figure is $88,987,654,321.88, with both 88s presumably a reference to Bryant's uniform number.
In his handwritten petition, Hendrix, a prisoner at Fremont Correctional Center in Cañon City, Colorado, seeks the money for reasons including but not limited to "for but not limited to: negligence, breach of fiduciary duty, and also wreckless [sic] disregard."

Bryant, as you may recall, appeared to catch the ball just outside the Packers' end zone late in the fourth quarter, setting Dallas up for what would have been a go-ahead score. Instead, the referees overturned the catch on the Packers' challenge, saying Bryant did not have control of the ball and did not make a football move before going to the ground. The Packers ended up winning and advanced to the NFC Championship, where they lost to the Seattle Seahawks.

Hendrix named NFL Vice President of Officiating Dean Blandino, game referee Gene Steratore and NFL commissioner Roger Goodell in the suit. He filed "on behalf of Dez Bryan #88, all Dallas Cowboys fans, and all people in or and [sic] from the sovereign republic of Texas," claiming that the plaintiffs "did suffer a true injury in fact when the respondent(s) did commit a fraud," referring to the "video reversal" of an "outstanding thirty one (31) yard pass reception by Dez Bryant #88."

Hendrix further states that the suit will prove "the simple fact that Dean Blandino, Gene Steratore, and Roger Goodell are wrong, and have stolen a victory from the plaintiffs, because the Cowboys offense would have perfectly created an "Autobahn" for for [sic] DeMarco Murray to drive into the end zone for the score and victory."
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Marty Ward on January 23, 2015, 12:31:15 PM
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Really? Do you know something about Ray Rice that no one else knows?

Do you think every person who does this should be made into a monster, lose the ability to work in their profession forever and be made to where a label on their clothes the rest of their life calling them a serial wife beater when it may have just been something so out of character that what they did is unexplainable?


Where do I excuse his behavior in this?  I defended Rice against being called a wife beater or a serial abuser but I never excused his actions or the punishment.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on January 23, 2015, 01:59:17 PM
[

Really? Do you know something about Ray Rice that no one else knows?

Do you think every person who does this should be made into a monster, lose the ability to work in their profession forever and be made to where a label on their clothes the rest of their life calling them a serial wife beater when it may have just been something so out of character that what they did is unexplainable?


Where do I excuse his behavior in this?  I defended Rice against being called a wife beater or a serial abuser but I never excused his actions or the punishment.

Did I say you excused his behavior? I quoted your defense of him to underscore the fact that while public and media are falling over themselves to condemn the Patriots, Bill Belichick, and Tom Brady, plenty of people were willing to defend Ray Rice and AP.

And Ray Rice is the definition of a wife beater. The man punched his wife in the head and knocked her out.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Marty Ward on January 23, 2015, 02:43:07 PM

Did I say you excused his behavior? I quoted your defense of him to underscore the fact that while public and media are falling over themselves to condemn the Patriots, Bill Belichick, and Tom Brady, plenty of people were willing to defend Ray Rice and AP.


I don't think anyone defended Rices actions and I don't think there should be anything implied on the Patriots about Ballgate except for the actual issue, that 11 out of 12 of their game balls were someone out of spec after the game but none of the Colts balls were so how did that happen.
I believe Brady and Belichek when they say they don't know who would have done anything to the balls. They were in the middle of the game and would not have done anything. I could see someone overhearing Brady saying that the balls were getting slick or that it was hard to control because the weather just sucked and them deciding to 'do something' about it.
I don't think Brady should be suspended or the game forfeited or anything like that. Fine the organization and move on. What I don't like is that no one in the Pat's organization is willing to just come out and say the Pats accept responsibility for what happened.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Con on January 23, 2015, 03:46:15 PM
I like what coldhardfootballfacts ahs to say about this

"Basically, what we've learned over the last 24 hours, is that the NFL ran an undercover sting operation on the Patriots, live on national TV, during the second biggest game of the year.
Short version: NFL hiring investigators, video forensics experts, and more. And, once again, the NFL and commissioner Roger Goodell have mishandled their internal dirt, creating a giant unnecessary cluster-f*ck in the proceess. Look for everyone involved, not just on the Patriots but on other teams, too, to be lawyering up soon."

Con
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on January 23, 2015, 05:42:39 PM
A couple of things I have heard on the radio in the past week about this ball issue:

1) Peyton Manning lobbied several years ago, successfully, to have the footballs provided by each team.  The old way was, the NFL provided them and the referees were the only ones to handle them before, during and after the game.

2) 'Twas the Ravens who ratted the Patriots out.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bbmike on January 23, 2015, 05:47:14 PM
A couple of things I have heard on the radio in the past week about this ball issue:

1) Peyton Manning lobbied several years ago, successfully, to have the footballs provided by each team.  The old way was, the NFL provided them and the referees were the only ones to handle them before, during and after the game.

2) 'Twas the Ravens who ratted the Patriots out.

RE #1, wasn't the old way the best way?  :idiot2:
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on January 23, 2015, 05:55:09 PM
My honest opinion is that Belichick and Co. ruffle enough feathers that there will always be people who are looking to stick it to them.  It's the same with anyone who is successful and doesn't care how they are perceived.  And the funny thing is, this just gives Bill the opportunity to round up his team and preach the same mantra he always does, "See, gentleman?  They don't want us to win and they are doing everything they can to discredit us."  Thereby rallying the team and making it even more of an, "Us versus Them," thing.  I really like Con's idea about the Pats not showing up and forfeiting the game to Seattle.  I think that would be the ultimate!
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on January 23, 2015, 06:57:46 PM
(https://scontent-b-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10419970_10205833428665074_2069214007323364866_n.jpg?oh=07db7a8af41a4280d25e211101c24544&oe=55244EE9)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on January 23, 2015, 07:17:58 PM
To the surprise of noone, many in the Browns organization and around the league think that Johnny Manziel is not a good football player.


http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/report-johnny-manziel-nothing-but-trouble-during-rookie-season/ar-AA8wkEF?ocid=mailsignout
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on January 23, 2015, 08:22:30 PM
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on January 24, 2015, 09:06:46 AM
^Hilarious! Especially the Tony Romo ones  ;D
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on January 25, 2015, 05:28:35 PM
I don't think that the Pats doctoring their game balls made a difference in this game, but how long has it been going on and did it make a difference in a game.  And game winning drives that the Pat's receivers starting catching a high percentage of passes than the rest of the game.  Add in the Pats history of breaking the rules, and it becomes a bigger issue.

As for the NFL having too many rules, the owners are the NFL.  They decide on the rules.

This issue is only getting the press that it is because there is a two week down time with no football.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Con on January 25, 2015, 05:47:09 PM
I am beginning to get the sense that the wheels are spinning off at the nfl. There is more and more reports coming out that the nfl are maybe the ones with their hand in the cookie jar here

Bellichecks flat out F U to the nfl saying we did nothing wrong so prove cheating is the ballsiest bluff ever if the pats did do something. No way that ball boys past and present and or other players/team employees involved wouldn't crack under this level of scrutiny. So I am inclined to believe bill here

Also rumors are floating around that the jets were involved (real bad blood between these teams and coming out right after the pats filed tampering charges against the jets).

The nfl has not provided anything close to any information on the balls and pressure and now some reports are saying the balls were only 1 psi below

The nfl has also been very inconsistent of how this happened due to the interception then contradicted by the intercepting colts player

Lastly headstart labs has done at least one study on this already and the results seem to indicate that this is all a bunch of hot air. Leading me to believe now that maybe the pats have aright to be paranoid about the nfl and their impartiality



Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on January 25, 2015, 06:19:50 PM
 When Bill Nye is breaking down "Deflate Gate", can the End Times not be far off?

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on January 26, 2015, 05:53:53 AM
Jesus, I wish the news would just shut the fuck up about that. The NFL is full of liars, manipulators, and criminals...wow what a revelation! Moving on to Hockey or Premier League...where I'm sure there's NO graft or lying... ::)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Marty Ward on January 26, 2015, 06:16:46 AM
If all the balls from both teams are checked before the game, why were none of the Colts footballs reported to be found to be low on air? Are the Pats now going to claim nature is out to get them because none of the Colts balls leaked out 10% of their air?
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on January 26, 2015, 06:17:08 AM
Did the NFL formally release information about an investigation on this, or is it all unnamed sources.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Marty Ward on January 26, 2015, 07:11:10 AM
Did the NFL formally release information about an investigation on this, or is it all unnamed sources.

The formal report won't be out for weeks, months maybe, if past history is any guide.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on January 26, 2015, 07:26:01 AM
Did the NFL formally release information about an investigation on this, or is it all unnamed sources.

The formal report won't be out for weeks, months maybe, if past history is any guide.

No, my question is did the NFL announce they are doing an investigation.  Have they officially released any information about any on going information, or it is it all from unnamed sources.  In other words, people that want to be buddies with the news media.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Marty Ward on January 26, 2015, 07:40:32 AM
Did the NFL formally release information about an investigation on this, or is it all unnamed sources.

The formal report won't be out for weeks, months maybe, if past history is any guide.

No, my question is did the NFL announce they are doing an investigation.  Have they officially released any information about any on going information, or it is it all from unnamed sources.  In other words, people that want to be buddies with the news media.

Yes they have announced a formal investigation. I forget who is running it but it generally takes a long time for the 'formal' report to be released. It will certainly not be done before Sunday.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Marty Ward on January 26, 2015, 07:47:16 AM
Here is a link to the league statement.

http://blogs.wsj.com/dailyfix/2015/01/23/nfl-statement-on-deflated-football-investigation/?mod=dailyfix
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 26, 2015, 07:48:48 AM
This is going to get talked about until something else happens to interrupt the news cycle.

When some backup long snapper gets picked up for solicitation, they'll have a new story to chase around.  Until then, you're stuck with this.  And don't think the silliness will in any way slow down media day coming up
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on January 26, 2015, 08:16:41 AM
Which is exactly why I'm avoiding ESPN (not that I watch it regularly in the first place).

My few interactions with the news are usually in the early mornings while getting ready for work. My wife puts it on and I only pay slight attention for the weather and the traffic. When crap like this gets regurgitated on local news, you KNOW it's a slow news day. I can't imagine how tiring it must be on the 24-hour news networks (including ESPN one through ocho).

I've found my love for the NFL has slowly deteriorated in the last few years. I mean, I like the Texans, but at this point I could care less if they win or lose. The NFL is too wrought with futility as it attempts to be a stand-up organization but is as greedy and corrupt as anything with any modicum of power, it seems. Not that "Deflate Gate" (that makes me want to puke just typing it) makes the NFL even worse, but in my mind, it certainly doesn't help my perception of them. Sort of like being surprised that someone arrested 29 times is arrested a 30th time. Gee, who woulda known?
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Marty Ward on January 26, 2015, 08:19:38 AM
You mean it is as surprising as Josh Gordon failing another drug test?  ;)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Arctic Blast on January 26, 2015, 12:55:30 PM
You mean it is as surprising as Josh Gordon failing another drug test?  ;)

Man, this is actually becoming sad. When someone keeps fucking up their career this frequently, they pretty clearly need help.

Of course, then I remember what he did to a Porsche and it all turns to rage :

(http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/blogs/Josh-Gordon-porche.398.png)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Marty Ward on January 26, 2015, 01:18:41 PM
Maybe in an alternate universe! :)

 [JOSH GORDON]
JOSH GORDON

Well, I just hit the award trifecta by being given the “Just Say No To Drugs” trophy, the “Anti-Alcohol Advocate of the Year” certificate, and this really cool “Best Career Moves of ’13-‘14” plaque.

5 hours ago . Like

http://profootballmock.com/facebookchat/nfl-qbs-facebook-meanwhile-alternate-universe/
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: MetalDog on January 26, 2015, 05:52:04 PM
Even Johnny Manziel thinks Gordon needs to ease up!  ;)



Did anyone see the comments Paul Tagliabue said about Goodell?  I just heard a snippet on the top of the hour Sportscenter on ESPN Radio, but, it was something to the effect of, "Goodell is to blame for his laser like focus on profits and his combative attitude towards players."  Just paraphrasing, but, pretty close.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on January 26, 2015, 06:04:15 PM
You mean it is as surprising as Josh Gordon failing another drug test?  ;)

Man, this is actually becoming sad. When someone keeps fucking up their career this frequently, they pretty clearly need help.

Of course, then I remember what he did to a Porsche and it all turns to rage :

(http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/blogs/Josh-Gordon-porche.398.png)

That's pretty heinous, but the fact that it's a 4 DOOR Porsche doesn't make it a Porsche. Neither is a Porsche SUV a Porsche.

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Staggerwing on January 26, 2015, 07:25:25 PM
^This man speaks a powerful truth. The first time I saw a Cayenne I died a little inside. Afterwards, when confronted with the abomination above, the necrosis spread a little further.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Martok on January 27, 2015, 03:17:21 AM
I love The Onion (http://www.theonion.com/articles/nation-cant-wait-to-hear-patriots-fans-excuses-thi,37819/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=Pic:Week1:Default): 


Quote
Nation Can’t Wait To Hear Patriots Fans’ Excuses This Time


WASHINGTON—After an NFL investigation revealed that 11 of New England’s 12 game balls were under-inflated during last weekend’s AFC Championship Game, Americans across the nation announced Wednesday that they would love—absolutely love—to hear the excuses from Patriots fans this time. “No, no, by all means, go ahead,” said every single person living outside of Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Vermont, Maine, Rhode Island, and Connecticut before reportedly smiling and adding, “I’m all ears.” “Wait, let me guess: The deflated footballs were also easier to catch for the Colts defense, so the Patriots didn’t have a real advantage, right? Or is it that the score was so lopsided that it didn’t matter in the end? No, seriously, I’m sure you guys have something really great cooked up for this one.” The American populace went on to say that they also absolutely cannot wait to hear how this new scandal will have no effect on the legacy of Tom Brady.



Yes, I realize the story probably isn't nearly so cut-and-dried, but I still had to laugh.  ;D 

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Marty Ward on January 27, 2015, 06:10:54 AM
With all the snow up there, wouldn't it be poetic justice if the power in New England was out until say 1:00 am Monday?
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 27, 2015, 09:35:03 AM
Good perspective on Ballghazi / Deflategate

http://time.com/3679079/patriots-under-inflated-balls-deflategate-nfl-scandal/
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 27, 2015, 10:10:47 AM
ugh
http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2004147460_rbstevens270.html

and this is almost 5 years old now



edit:  here's the 'good news' story in the series
http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2004152847_rbkelley300.html
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on January 27, 2015, 05:29:31 PM
I could give a shit about the super bowl this year. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 27, 2015, 06:02:28 PM
I"m just cheering for the team with the NC St guys :)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on January 28, 2015, 09:51:44 AM
I'm not going to watch. After watching the Pats choke against the Giants twice, I can't watch them again in the SB.

Montana is the greatest QB of all time. 4/4 in Super Bowls.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: mirth on January 28, 2015, 10:47:15 AM
Good perspective on Ballghazi / Deflategate

http://time.com/3679079/patriots-under-inflated-balls-deflategate-nfl-scandal/


Wow. Good article.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Marty Ward on January 28, 2015, 11:10:36 AM
 :D

"Simulator runs Super Bowl matchup 50,000 times, and winner is .."

...

"As for Brady and the Patriots, not even deflate-gate could touch the Predictalator. Not even once in 50,000 simulations.

“Every ball in every simulation we conduct in the regular or postseason is inflated to the proper 12.5 to 13.5 PSI. In 50,000 simulations, that’s a whole lot of balls, none of which seems to lose two-plus PSI during the games,” Bessire said. “That’s 1.5 million properly inflated balls for a normal game and 6 million for this week. It’s an assumption worth revisiting for future seasons, but, fortunately the Super Bowl is the only game all year in which the NFL provides all the balls.”

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/simulator-runs-super-bowl-matchup-50-000-times--and-winner-is-----022252004.html;_ylt=A0LEVvO4JclUVxUA6Z8nnIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTEzbnM3aWYwBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkA1lIUzAwM18x
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on January 28, 2015, 12:25:36 PM
Wisconsin QB vs Michigan QB.  Going with the Badger.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 28, 2015, 12:51:22 PM
Wisconsin NC State Graduate QB vs Michigan QB.  Going with the Badger smart guy.

FTFY

Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on January 28, 2015, 01:07:14 PM
Wisconsin NC State Graduate QB vs Michigan QB.  Going with the Badger smart guy.

FTFY

Eve his wiki page has his college listed as Wisconsin.  You're the only person that seems to remember him being part of the Pack. 
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Marty Ward on January 28, 2015, 01:32:35 PM
Didn't he leave NC State to go to Wisconsin so he could play?
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on January 28, 2015, 01:42:51 PM
Brant may be able to talk about this more, but he only played 3 years at NCST but chose to go play baseball in the spring of 2011.  This is from his wiki page;

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In January 2011, Wilson announced that he would report to spring training with the Colorado Rockies organization.[37] NC State head coach Tom O'Brien expressed reservations with Wilson's decision, saying "Russell and I have had very open conversations about his responsibilities respective to baseball and football. While I am certainly respectful of Russell's dedication to baseball these last several years, within those discussions I also communicated to him the importance of his time commitment to NC State football."

O'Brien and his staff reached out to NFL coaches and general managers on Wilson's behalf, but he failed to receive an invitation to the 2011 NFL Scouting Combine.

On April 29, 2011, O'Brien announced that Wilson had been granted a release from his football scholarship with one year of eligibility remaining.

On June 27, 2011, Wisconsin head coach Bret Bielema announced that Wilson had committed to Wisconsin for the 2011 season
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Bison on January 29, 2015, 07:21:12 PM
Is it time to make fun of Romo yet?
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on January 29, 2015, 07:22:41 PM
Is it time to make fun of Romo yet?

Is there ever an off season from making fun of Romo.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: BanzaiCat on January 29, 2015, 08:50:02 PM
(http://dailysnark.com/wp-content/gallery/top-10-tony-romo-memes/tonyromo9.png)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on January 31, 2015, 10:42:39 PM
(https://scontent-b-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10576918_10153078685907008_6752758309153615997_n.jpg?oh=1c2d90450261c69ef81342c386a06a57&oe=556CD338)
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: bayonetbrant on February 01, 2015, 05:41:51 AM
did that actually make it on the air?  wow :D
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Staggerwing on February 01, 2015, 06:12:21 AM
Guy holding the sign looks like Ashton Kutcher.  :))
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on February 02, 2015, 09:39:26 AM
Breaking news.....Manziel's in rehab.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/02/reports-johnny-manziel-entered-treatment-on-wednesday/ (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/02/reports-johnny-manziel-entered-treatment-on-wednesday/)

Funny, I didn't know their was an a$$hat rehab. Fancy that.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: OJsDad on February 02, 2015, 12:17:53 PM
I'm shocked. The snickers bar didn't work.
Title: Re: The 2014 Running Football Thread (College & Pro)
Post by: Steelgrave on February 05, 2015, 11:06:16 AM
We bid a fond farewell to the 2014 NFL season.....



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