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Title: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: BanzaiCat on August 06, 2013, 10:44:39 AM
So I figure I'd finally take a serious look at Carrier, the solitaire boardgame from Victory Games that came out in 1990.

I picked it up for about $18 at a GenCon or Origins (can't remember which) somewhere around 2005, and never opened it. It's unpunched and in great condition.

Now that I finally have some time in my life to get back into board gaming (and am converting my home office to add a table for this purpose), I'm much more interested in some of these games that I've bought over the years but never touched. Like this one.

Now that I'm here with the time, I'm faced with the dilemma that this damned game is selling on eBay for over a hundred bucks, in two different listings.

So I can say punch it and play it and the hell with it, or box it back up and list it for sale, or box it back up and store it carefully for another ten years and see what happens then.

I hate to punch it but I really want to play it. What I'm really afraid of is playing it and thinking it sucks and then kicking myself for not selling it in the first place.

I dunno. Any of you guys play Carrier before? I can read all kinds of reviews on BGG or elsewhere, but I'd like your opinions, if you have any.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: bayonetbrant on August 06, 2013, 11:08:02 AM
I think Gary (GJK) redid some of the graphics for it as a part of a VASSAL module...
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: GJK on August 06, 2013, 12:24:40 PM
Some things that I can guarantee you in regards to Carrier:

1. The rules themselves you probably won't find overly complex but if you want to get into the game further than the first few intro scenarios, then you will spend a good amount of time learning the (full) system.

2. IF you do opt to learn the game, you will find it to be one of your most memorable solitaire gaming experiences ever; how much so will depend on your interest in WW2 Pacific carrier Op's.

3. IF you do opt to ebay it, you will get a pretty good ROI; especially for an UP copy in near mint condition.

4. You CAN play Carrier on the computer - I did work on the VASSAL/ZunTzu modules for it and I believe that the electronic version of the rules are online.  I would just photocopy the charts before you sold your copy.  THAT SAID, the Carrier experience is best experienced with a physical copy of the game; rolling the dice, moving the counters, stepping back from the table and taking the entire picture in while trying to figure out how the hell that wave of Jap dive bombers got through your CAP.....
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: GJK on August 06, 2013, 12:29:37 PM
And I will say this - I have Carrier set up inside my "cat proof" table at this very moment waiting for me to start my next campaign.  It IS my favorite solitaire wargame.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: bayonetbrant on August 06, 2013, 12:52:35 PM
see...?  I told you Gary would jump in here with both feet!  :)
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: Grimnirsson on August 06, 2013, 01:06:58 PM
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Now that I finally have some time in my life to get back into board gaming

I appreciate to see more traditional wargamers here on GrogHeads...these strange folks around here only play PC games... :P


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I hate to punch it but I really want to play it.

Wrong spelling and poor choice of words...what you actually wanted to say is...

I have to punch it because I really want to play it!

;)

And when it comes to board wargames and especially Carrier listen to Gary :)
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: BanzaiCat on August 06, 2013, 01:07:53 PM
I appreciate it, Gary. I do love a good solitaire game and I am very interested in WWII carrier ops. I'm leaning towards keeping it and trying it out.

I also have Tokyo Express, unpunched, that I'm interested in trying. I might give that one another look as well. It's another acquisition from a game convention years ago that I never did anything with.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: BanzaiCat on August 06, 2013, 01:08:35 PM
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Wrong spelling and poor choice of words...what you actually wanted to say is...

I have to punch it because I really want to play it!

;)


Yeah, that's what I meant to type. :)

I think I may just do that.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: BanzaiCat on August 06, 2013, 01:09:18 PM
And maybe as a bonus I'll figure out multi-quote quotations.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: GJK on August 06, 2013, 01:33:44 PM
I also have Tokyo Express, unpunched, that I'm interested in trying. I might give that one another look as well. It's another acquisition from a game convention years ago that I never did anything with.

That one is also a solitaire game by Jon Southard that uses a similar but uniquely different system FWIU.  I haven't had the fortune of playing TE but the consensus that I gather is it is just a slight notch below Carrier on the excitement level and I would imagine because it simply doesn't have carrier op's in it so you miss that slice but gain the excitement of combat up and down "the slot".
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: GJK on August 06, 2013, 01:36:10 PM
The more that I think about it - what "I" would do is this.  Get the VASSAL module, and start to play the first couple of scenarios using it.  You have the rules and charts (I included the charts in the VASSAL module as well IIRC) and If it's clicking and you want to get into more and more campaigns, then punch that bad boy and get 'er on the table (that sounded kinky!).  If you find that it's not clicking, then sell it.  I have 3 copies already or I'd make you and offer!
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: bayonetbrant on August 06, 2013, 01:38:29 PM
then punch that bad boy and get 'er on the table (that sounded kinky!)

You're fitting in here more and more every day ;D
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: GJK on August 06, 2013, 01:45:37 PM
then punch that bad boy and get 'er on the table (that sounded kinky!)

You're fitting in here more and more every day ;D

Heh!
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: Toonces on August 06, 2013, 07:32:58 PM
I solved this dilemma by purchasing a punched copy AND and unpunched copy.

I recommend that you do what Gary suggests and try it out on Vassal first.  It's the only way I've played it actually, although just recently I've started looking at the rules again with the intent of setting it up for real finally.

The game holds its value very well, so I can see why you'd be reluctant to punch it.  On the other hand, we're not talking a fortune here.  Just play the game!
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: weateallthepies on August 07, 2013, 01:13:15 AM
I'd probably punch it myself, but I have a thing for getting hold of games that have been "collected" and punching and playing them. Saying that, I can't afford the current prices on this one so I might even be tempted to keep hold of it as an investment, though unplayed games make me sad.  :(

Play it on Vassal, and hopefully that will convince you enough to play your copy.

Still hoping to find this cheap someday. I've had a few bargains from charity shops so you never know.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: BanzaiCat on August 07, 2013, 06:23:49 AM
Thanks all. I know it's sacrilege but I haven't ever played on VASSAL. I know what it is, I just never cracked it open. I will change that oversight now.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: GJK on August 07, 2013, 06:36:58 AM
Let me know if you have any questions, problems or issues getting it working or in using it.  It's not rocket science but it's not as simple as most other computer programs that installs it all for you.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: Rekim on August 07, 2013, 10:19:54 AM
Another Carrier player chiming in to recommend you get to punching those counters (following a light application of clear-coat) ASAP. It takes some persistence to make it through the rulebook, however the end results are totally worth it. The game packs a wicked AI and focuses on the interesting/fun aspects of commanding a WWII carrier group.

I also own a copy of Tokyo Express that I've yet to play. I'm sure to get around to it eventually considering the high regard I have for Carrier. I've heard scary things bout the TE rulebook though...

Both of these titles are good candidates for modding; good user mods available for download.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: BanzaiCat on August 07, 2013, 10:45:00 AM
I grew up reading manuals for games like Third Reich - Avalon Hill gaming should at least bestow upon their players half the college coursework necessary when working on a JD or similar law degree. So yeah, not so much these days; I just don't have the patience or time for it. But Carrier is a pretty easy read - and TE is definitely looking a little more fussy. But I'll give it a shot.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: BanzaiCat on August 07, 2013, 03:55:39 PM
Just downloaded VASSAL and the Carrier module. Man, it looks GREAT! Nice work.

Now if I only knew what the hell I was doing...guess I better finish reading the manual.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: GJK on August 07, 2013, 08:23:25 PM
By the way, here's a screenshot of the ZunTzu gamebox that I did for carrier:
(http://www.garykrockover.com/zuntzu/carrier_screenshot.jpg)

It uses a custom map and counters that I made for it.  ZunTzu works great for this game since it's solitaire only and hence no Pbem.  Get the gamebox here: http://www.garykrockover.com/zuntzu
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: Toonces on August 07, 2013, 11:22:01 PM
Look spectacular, Gary!

I do hope you'll consider creating the Midway map for the game to go with the Midway variant.  That would make me very happy.   ;D

Also, while I have everyone's attention, I am looking to pick up Tokyo Express, so if you have an interest in selling/trading, let's talk.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: GJK on August 08, 2013, 04:42:28 AM
Making the Midway map would be quite easy and something that I can probably throw in to this ZunTzu gamebox over the weekend. 

Also, I think that I posted links and a comment to these videos before, but there is a full set of a video AAR (I guess you would call it) on BGG: 

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/videos/thing/1679?gallery=all&sort=recent

Those were done by Enrico Viglino, who can be a rather excitable guy I gather.  It almost gets comical with the amount of frustration that he goes through with the game but I think that once it clicks he rather enjoys it.  Hard to tell from the "rant" in the final review.  At any rate, they might be worth watching for the entertainment value alone.

And finally - and this is how much I like this game - something that I've been working on for years now and thanks to this thread it has sparked my desire to finally finish them....an ebook for the Carrier rulebook:

(http://www.garykrockover.com/uploads/Carrier_Rules_Screen1.jpg)


Using the .chm format, the rulebook is quick and easy to search and cross-reference:

(http://www.garykrockover.com/uploads/Carrier_Rules_Screen2.jpg)



...and will include all known errata plus all of the charts, players aids and scenarios.  This will be great as a reference to have open on your tablet or laptop or a nearby computer while you play the table top game or to have minimized or on a 2nd monitor while playing the VASSAL or ZunTzu gamebox.

All yours for the low, introductory price of......<kidding>  :)

The ebook is about 75% done.  I will work on it here and there to update it and will throw a copy of it on my ZunTzu page at:

http://www.garykrockover.com/zuntzu

So it can be downloaded there.  Just check the file date to see if I've uploaded a newer version.

If you have problems viewing the .chm file, let me know.  Some users report that they get a "page cannot be displayed" blank page on all of the pages.  The fix is rather easy and common.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: BanzaiCat on August 08, 2013, 05:46:04 AM
There's a Midway variant to this game?!? Wow, I've been under a rock.

Very nice work on the eBook, sir. Looking forward to seeing it!
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: GJK on August 08, 2013, 06:21:15 AM
It's on my ZunTzu page now (link above).  Again, maybe 75% done but it covers through Scenario 4 which would get you well in to the game.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: GJK on August 08, 2013, 06:28:08 AM
I need to add that on my ZunTzu download page, you will want to right click and "save as" for all of those files there.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: Grimnirsson on August 08, 2013, 07:21:55 AM
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ebook for the Carrier rulebook

Wow, Gary - that's cool! And since you are already into this eBook thingy...when can we expect the ASLERB? :P
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: GJK on August 08, 2013, 08:45:22 AM
Well since you asked...

(http://garykrockover.com/uploads/aslrbv2_chm.jpg)

(http://garykrockover.com/uploads/eASLRB_screener.jpg)


But perhaps you mean the Starter Kit rulebook (final)?

(http://garykrockover.com/uploads/ASLSK3-RB-Screenshot.jpg)

And your smartphone or tablet would be cool to have the ASLRB on it, wouldn't it??

(http://garykrockover.com/uploads/iphone2.jpg)



I'll see about throwing those up on my ZunTzu site later today.  MMP might have a little cow over that though since they are currently working on their official version.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: weateallthepies on August 08, 2013, 08:59:52 AM
Outstanding work. Would love to get a copy, but yeah MMP might not be entirely happy about those. I'd recommend not leaving them available indefinitely if you do share them.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: bayonetbrant on August 08, 2013, 09:03:26 AM
Gary - one of these days I need to talk to you about VASSAL modules and see if you can help me get a few built for some playtesting I need to do on some BayonetGames projects
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: GJK on August 08, 2013, 09:14:14 AM
Sure Brant.  I made several modules a few years back and then hadn't messed with it at all until fairly recently so most of the newer enhancements are a bit beyond me at this point.  However, if you needed a simple but functional module for playtesting (that could later be built upon), then sure, I could give you a hand.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: bayonetbrant on August 08, 2013, 09:22:51 AM
I'll email you later today after work.  thanks
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: Grimnirsson on August 08, 2013, 10:06:27 AM
 Gary...:o

Man, I would love to have such an eASLRB. Hiimori and I consider getting back into ASL after a longer break and such a searchable eRB would help a lot of course...

Regarding the official MMP eASLRB...I just say 'Project Up Front 2000'  :P
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: Toonces on August 08, 2013, 08:47:18 PM
Does ZunTsu enforce the rules, or is it just another type of Vassal/Cyberboard?
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: GJK on August 09, 2013, 12:31:17 AM
Does ZunTsu enforce the rules, or is it just another type of Vassal/Cyberboard?

It's another VASSAL/CB but I think that it has the slickest way of operating and with controls that are more like a computer game (no scroll bars that you have to use, you can zoom and pan rather easily).  Plus, it's super easy to make a gamebox for.  Worth a look in my opinion!
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: hurryover on August 12, 2013, 12:21:01 AM
I have this, but I will be playing for the first time next week on Vassal. I am still reading the rules. I am feigning for the Pacific as of late.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: Dolan50 on September 09, 2013, 08:50:27 AM
If your interested in Pacific WW2 carrier battles,you may want to check out the free online game Fighting Flattops.
I haven't played it in a while because my gaming interest is now East Front WW2,but the game was fun and I even designed a few hypothetical what if campaigns for he game.

It's turned based against a human opponent and based roughly on the game Flattop by Avalon Hill.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: BanzaiCat on January 20, 2017, 10:31:00 AM
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Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: Barthheart on January 20, 2017, 10:37:46 AM
 #:-)
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: mirth on January 20, 2017, 10:40:50 AM
Every time a counter is trimmed, an angel gets its wings.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: BanzaiCat on January 20, 2017, 10:41:16 AM
These counters aren't centered, which kind of sucks.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: mirth on January 20, 2017, 10:43:45 AM
Yeah. That's a crappy print job.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: Rekim on January 20, 2017, 04:43:14 PM
If the offset bothers you, there are a number of versions of print and play upgrade counters out there on the interwebs. Plus a cool upgrade of the map.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: Staggerwing on January 20, 2017, 04:51:11 PM
Plus a cool upgrade of the map.

Would that be Gary's upgrade you're talking about?
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: BanzaiCat on January 20, 2017, 05:27:35 PM
I think that's what he's referring to. I d/l'd the VASSL module today and took a brief look - it's sharp!

There's 780 flippin' counters in this game! I only just got done with the US fleet just now...sigh.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: bbmike on January 20, 2017, 05:32:18 PM
There needs to be a "GoG" for board games. I'd pay for a vassal version of this game.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: Rekim on January 20, 2017, 05:58:39 PM
Plus a cool upgrade of the map.

Would that be Gary's upgrade you're talking about?

Nope. It is user created map available for download from BGG.

Here is preview of it from the print shop I used.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/tG6ugULHX6wjP4-gObgrRPOlklW3MJzMehk0CaopkrBzgoJRVVFuq-cugSAUtIp214yoMrxzginGOL9hhlOjjZ1mTxCk1Iyvia5qYSyL0yLCgUy4Gg45u0yWtfzvGPo0t05CKufHBToiPpIDPLv12aqHSiHYuJXgMp2CqvRUtpUxLiJEVj8pA3BWIEZCxeKT93mXZGFiT23qVjepBbFWRK035DyEhHjIOHggXpujUCf7Lq0n7Fp03mSCxi3wmcwWHT2SbQpjJ0N8DoqDIOoYh09nDi2wxg2pgX0Yi7NYP7CpWdoiKEL5WSbOUFDKFvMVYI527gVmlMm31ke4g42b_19GdfLSbBBIdVBjRvyOQD7KIFsv51a4MaHCmsRkvnKvMsGOdOs21mU1UB5WsHI5_hMASGTMc9a_FX3NX6qrMfiloQPwQouARSZuBGSDsAB92T5CG5W2ZOJkV1j-os4QEd0nqd1zvOFHq5cE9FQM1fM5E0rXi5KnrgBxw45slFF24Tnz_pbUwkiC-dcO6Y7qHHfTxuJU5VSXuXZmTrBXo993yjf9jyyIvoDJ9_u3Dql6eCy-Vto4g6f0k1F4-_UfCzAy-xwGgYoxgOmrw-bzjPkV3ToMo0VGvFioR-Pp-Q7vVdJFryM5QXaUfoYqRu-mFwhmiAzzZt_Vak_5-6X-Ww=s875-no)

Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: Rekim on January 20, 2017, 06:00:04 PM
Now that I think of it, this map does incorporate Gary's work. I'm sure Gary will let us know for certain.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: Rekim on January 20, 2017, 06:08:17 PM
There needs to be a "GoG" for board games. I'd pay for a vassal version of this game.

there is a VASSAL module for Carrier.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: bbmike on January 20, 2017, 06:14:27 PM
There needs to be a "GoG" for board games. I'd pay for a vassal version of this game.

there is a VASSAL module for Carrier.

True, but no rules to go along with it. That's common for a lot of Vassal modules.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: GJK on January 20, 2017, 06:16:41 PM
That map upgrade above (very well done by the way) isn't mine and I don't think he used my redrawn map within his frame, I think his is a straight scan IIRC.  My map is the one that was used (and then modified some more) for the Ipad conversion (this screenshot is from the ZunTzu gamebox that I made (with upgraded counters as well).


If anybody wants a 300dpi print of my map, let me know and I'll upload it to my dropbox.  The map upgrade here is also made to be printed and either one will work very nicely though I think the original map is just fine as well.  By the way, there already is a VASSAL module for the game that I worked with "-E" on (who I think is Eric Lee Smith but I can't verify that) - he did the programing and I added my first rendition of the map.  It's been on my to-do list to upgrade that module with all new graphics (and larger) and ease of use functions.  Just got to find the time-




Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: DennisS on January 21, 2017, 06:32:28 AM
Another Carrier player chiming in to recommend you get to punching those counters (following a light application of clear-coat) ASAP. It takes some persistence to make it through the rulebook, however the end results are totally worth it. The game packs a wicked AI and focuses on the interesting/fun aspects of commanding a WWII carrier group.

I also own a copy of Tokyo Express that I've yet to play. I'm sure to get around to it eventually considering the high regard I have for Carrier. I've heard scary things bout the TE rulebook though...

Both of these titles are good candidates for modding; good user mods available for download.

I have Carrier! and Tokyo Express. They play completely differently, but the one thing they have in common is that the programmed AI WILL crush the life out of you. Terrific solo games.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: BanzaiCat on January 21, 2017, 06:57:19 AM
I have Tokyo Express also, and also unpunched. Thus far anyway.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: Rekim on January 21, 2017, 05:04:30 PM
I have Carrier! and Tokyo Express. They play completely differently, but the one thing they have in common is that the programmed AI WILL crush the life out of you. Terrific solo games.

I still need to punch/play Tokyo Express. I expect it will be as challenging and enjoyable as Carrier...super interesting subject matter to boot. I've greatly reduced my game purchases over the last year, so hopefully will run out of excuses soon.

Think I mentioned this to you previously DennisS; I purchased my copy of Carrier from a member named Dennis on Wargamer several years ago. Picked it up for $40, which is a real steal these days.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: DennisS on January 21, 2017, 06:48:12 PM
I have Carrier! and Tokyo Express. They play completely differently, but the one thing they have in common is that the programmed AI WILL crush the life out of you. Terrific solo games.

I still need to punch/play Tokyo Express. I expect it will be as challenging and enjoyable as Carrier...super interesting subject matter to boot. I've greatly reduced my game purchases over the last year, so hopefully will run out of excuses soon.

Think I mentioned this to you previously DennisS; I purchased my copy of Carrier from a member named Dennis on Wargamer several years ago. Picked it up for $40, which is a real steal these days.

Through the years, I have gotten rid of dozens, if not hundreds of boardgames. Most were wargames, and this has bothered me a lot. I could stock a gaming store with all the solo games I no longer have. I do believe that this group of grognards couldn't name ten solo wargames I haven't owned, out of all the solo wargames ever produced. Sad, really.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: Rekim on January 21, 2017, 11:56:30 PM
That doesn't sound so bad to me Dennis. It's probably better to get those unplayed games back in circulation, while freeing up cash for future purchases. I know a fellow who claims to have 2000+ wargames in his collection. Personally, that would bother me a lot more.

I've done reasonable well at limiting my purchases over the years (~30 wargames, never sold any). I still have a bitch of a time getting back to the really good ones due to the one or two new shiny games in my collection that scream for attention. Really have a hankering for a good long campaign of Steel Wolves at the moment, but sooo hard to make that 300+ hour commitment of table and personal time.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: bbmike on March 08, 2017, 04:14:56 PM
Noble Knight Games now has a copy of Carrier (http://www.nobleknight.com/ProductDetailSearch.asp_Q_ProductID_E_-1495555778_A_InventoryID_E_2148501078) for only $175.00.  :hide:
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: mirth on March 08, 2017, 04:18:02 PM
Noble Knight Games now has a copy of Carrier (http://www.nobleknight.com/ProductDetailSearch.asp_Q_ProductID_E_-1495555778_A_InventoryID_E_2148501078) for only $175.00.  :hide:

Banzai Cat is buying it at this moment :P
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: jmkinki on March 09, 2017, 11:36:08 AM

Nope. It is user created map available for download from BGG.

Here is preview of it from the print shop I used.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/tG6ugULHX6wjP4-gObgrRPOlklW3MJzMehk0CaopkrBzgoJRVVFuq-cugSAUtIp214yoMrxzginGOL9hhlOjjZ1mTxCk1Iyvia5qYSyL0yLCgUy4Gg45u0yWtfzvGPo0t05CKufHBToiPpIDPLv12aqHSiHYuJXgMp2CqvRUtpUxLiJEVj8pA3BWIEZCxeKT93mXZGFiT23qVjepBbFWRK035DyEhHjIOHggXpujUCf7Lq0n7Fp03mSCxi3wmcwWHT2SbQpjJ0N8DoqDIOoYh09nDi2wxg2pgX0Yi7NYP7CpWdoiKEL5WSbOUFDKFvMVYI527gVmlMm31ke4g42b_19GdfLSbBBIdVBjRvyOQD7KIFsv51a4MaHCmsRkvnKvMsGOdOs21mU1UB5WsHI5_hMASGTMc9a_FX3NX6qrMfiloQPwQouARSZuBGSDsAB92T5CG5W2ZOJkV1j-os4QEd0nqd1zvOFHq5cE9FQM1fM5E0rXi5KnrgBxw45slFF24Tnz_pbUwkiC-dcO6Y7qHHfTxuJU5VSXuXZmTrBXo993yjf9jyyIvoDJ9_u3Dql6eCy-Vto4g6f0k1F4-_UfCzAy-xwGgYoxgOmrw-bzjPkV3ToMo0VGvFioR-Pp-Q7vVdJFryM5QXaUfoYqRu-mFwhmiAzzZt_Vak_5-6X-Ww=s875-no)

Uhmmm.... that map is very familiar for me....

 :2funny:

But you haven't the counters...  ;)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/4Jw1cPzYaVguO5RhDwlAKoqa5JhKuYUPndg3Czi2a_DlOinAZWdWo2TsO_JOQfkqBUKDJJ5rELCjwKaArU2dw_jFGNJpU_UHl4vre5IHhT9NeP65nbbzdosQCTG-vxQWz5qrba8VLKVP49ysAdApt67uKbcuiKBDQ919oxuSWiQJM1Q2tOL-YxLYFJVHl4cfTWHmpVvFoyGNL9yZGjfVHn-G4QltMxtPcGHK0_m0EjK4MDzg3XmymVoGlF2a76OVBcf_Slt_SU5v8VqXf7eywjRmMrdWGF19hzodHrnoAnkiZdCmmRWEwLSTRqcKC6pFdxCRbvcU-vZ34IewoPDQWGfAkASDvFasMnHmLqLdFRtUtdVzn84t8GK-Pqcjx8sz-X6L2EDo0U1UeWfXAuROmUFw_-uGbwuZ0DMY8RXZ5138LPUMTPWi-3C19hC0PFr-B2LS5RTiitvLqcPgabh563DyxLppXJKtD1vVPaz9H5iv1jvJV9yjG4iyUHdOYZwFcdhGLB49LZpoBbBvulyWwuZluoPntNyvjH1Fg8WTUIu-acpFAVPomvosEqW_Daxqpau60GGUOvz8Rn1d__wiqiMXf19Jubj8L1mtlss8nUZVmpnQaSwF=w1289-h963-no)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/2zwHnjBSZ14tYFUggLBusuW_j96b4mdzZVTaM8nn5iJN3ED7uxixGCQ6Xeuzw1pPj8ZMLXhH8ffbdo8ClB306qE-gkwjJ4TwyQs53pltrfp1ZY9vwcBHXpulxNnq3q8nYapufMGXloZSz3TvN-fmIdsOgCGUSYgujQDpmlpAQLthcQgS4Z_8XjbN0XbMQ1F8CLwirPWTaZoBD9RHvTLU2W7btyuXjiGCxRb2zhlxtr6AAB38xz9eNjCeJq5x5j-ooy4eEBQ7PfHH9e8SeQNsWPxSsVxZDlB85OjeChWlBUR4yrYjTbZ7kkXBt26MFT-Ojc6hp_hHmYHewXLIZXalA3NMx9XfVkFU3EAWtchk-Penl-99Vy-RC0p88aRFjW7_JTRzH4DOXkoH8TqYYsw5CgQRQpvOHN9n8KaMXjW_qcmD3DdWawVUFI_HSVXcmZcGhhXDH6V6TFnJN-_oUPfoO-lSBT_w7Y2rF6obSUJqNe4JLYSUYXjGufGMkKQpEHG9soYnhCEJao86ecm0jKuWY-9M8jhpd7KX9la8mrIj-CSMJg8zj9C460Hzq2wD7-sNatIfPXmXgUXmsaHwVx6le2bmqKhY1ztQFSMqsf4cX8ZPEegao33x=w720-h963-no)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/NnwhM72G9mFFrbrW8c5tgJV6iKpAlmDLAklwniNjLgz0UuiiVvCKh-yveIVGrkYbVFwkFpxANAJi_oNUKU88DwCSNxVt7wbcYuSqySHSBAks4pbO12o-U5Kn4lcOuF3MZLSY_RqfjMeoUtadQyQ0g-M5A5105gzi22N9vE-DZya0mbMp2D8OIvWHb-fB16rMzecpW0tmxWjpHEQ-6vAykfhdEHZ_DDrlbOkRNzLmHlhp9dKILcFXL8DZ6hKfQQsz34ZIg35SuJ3ok1irDRedwPbVfaEvZgsUfWD1MvOra6GU0I7cDsTgVwgLv9V483IUsRNWS7LsAqF8wdxsffZ-BB9bVylVK5W-o3fxDotnlmpHx6tpRUtauw_O4A0vS8fuqOtQGvk4dpb-WZskorvNUCWA3WlgbHj-FvhBg372ve7dE4iKN0cDd9MvU6O4uaeo03iYp5X8zMQI53U6eUILbHpzx4HNR2c-v8vCD8O0uiDPYcZOJbbdgI9PeWk9DgJEWOf4Bc2m2x3RLksexRHNcxbnb2aGPn5smGcu_-619s_aoGWmY_O0Sl-fyNzRKI7W1dcYBWKq1qLsur9s0lNfD8MubrzogdABzCJTGahd3AQVBBjUX5y6=w1289-h963-no)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/D0jOtfofLXP1xffvB5_8BtN7PFOPC0BckZsS1WTJJxLbApNXpvN2kSHdssfFWBsU4xKKihbF6rsuUnUNyvowAJh4eFIthIf2YT1azoU5VegbFKj0DfPLVfaMk-i9uUNun3bcaYuIbYz0f5RKOj8LxJYslPu1qOsotdh80GwORVyuiIOmIahNpc2DkYD52hNqmg5uYEY1LuF9yG7h5ayBSIvMl4OoOHkAGaN4NzWBLLwlSu534jsrghPLeCNHA3dRa3Nf72im70cHfOGOwNTlgjAlCoYeQXOV55KZ0yrlTsIutv6hPUiTDbE1qiaGn5zbqYgmwCchNLcp5mWkwxPZWRR3_rkBtV5UewHl9JK3v7pIO8EiTXNa3bl-cad5_E0adWeY28SOdPgGuh7_6zyWJJbEUlxHSINv_1Gz9KYB4hyyAQW58VZOAZ7-qnNonbf6zxGgazMBrXh3D-F7LvUsRzQsclGM-iS1BkcJK61CEZ6j8AP3euSieGmkR0O1hGjJMoVEuAEO-7-OvTyiYTID7tNyDCVtNzKdGxHybQkYpUhPxepQ1T9pV0g290IbJ5WAGTKbC5QNDnitOGC1gE6ce5NivK9mbBd6_C8oVtfnrEWVMlSoMRLh=w1289-h963-no)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/mX5Oxmbs9iUSLqrkRpn-VzpiKYKS_LmrOJAakQU7wpfOnhZJhjdpwl-XiMv8JhwOvg9Zzsp_TFU7-EJFtAqJj_0uLuSYfmaLy-b4mTowv8uZ_KP_BOzzJLQ6DqQLMshANv-RYcgv6FHd-foZ5qS6di90aRuoyKiYr85IJR8jjGUo_yqrN98LyT4aV0ARhak_FN8FjsoMmTPd8Om_GmMWuLoOIt_tg0AhV3tos4fAZXAftJ53Zq4y_sFySXtzDXI-VXP-QuI6SACsgfQBf0CSSm1ethQWXd4zBqGkvFKBzTtZzOzeq9iAqvqkRoSgqS0NEDfOpNIVMkCtpAXauJk0fEctRySLvpAzTA7JY5bFGHRfZEh7Ddkiu42cUhZjERUt260ENFIgQWxuIppknOYfwBFV80hRQIClkuXntJ6p028hPXwCiqt-mT6mMHD2koDDDSwE4g6b1YXGGxdM9BrBDUWukcfDHMuDzGKudpBgl5lfU-e7ZWlgBdRktuSPCQYNPvKsZH0CTa1Z6wWtg7MAOyaL_o0RjvfD9MCQDYSEuXcjx-UG9OOKlBBI7u_yKpAyhtNal07iGucZRAB1x6VpgiEo9sJ1ssxQ_wGkgqqnoTdCjyjk1yHn=w1289-h963-no)

Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: Rekim on March 09, 2017, 05:47:28 PM
The original counters just scream for an update don't they.

Love the graphics on yours.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: BanzaiCat on July 28, 2017, 01:42:37 PM
I still have both Carrier and Tokyo Express in a prominent part of my gaming shelf...err, shelves. I have about ten places in my office where I've stashed them all...wish I had a proper game room.

I keep getting new shinies to cover, though!
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: bbmike on July 28, 2017, 04:35:39 PM
I received a copy of Carrier that I got from eBay last week. (http://www.aarcentral.com/pics/worship.gif)
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: BanzaiCat on July 28, 2017, 05:14:27 PM
Nice. Unpunched?
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: Jarhead0331 on July 28, 2017, 05:56:07 PM
I think I want this game. Looks like its hard to find...
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: bbmike on July 28, 2017, 05:56:34 PM
I wish. I have yet to go through it and see if everything is there.  :(
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: BanzaiCat on July 28, 2017, 05:58:49 PM
I wish. I have yet to go through it and see if everything is there.  :(

Easy enough. If you are missing counters I'm pretty sure it would be easy enough to replicate them.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: Staggerwing on July 28, 2017, 06:05:10 PM
I wish. I have yet to go through it and see if everything is there.  :(

Easy enough. If you are missing counters I'm pretty sure it would be easy enough to replicate them.


True. The ones in the pix above look home-brewed as well. If not, the die-cutting run must have been done on a monday morning or a friday afternoon.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: GJK on July 28, 2017, 08:11:32 PM
I wish. I have yet to go through it and see if everything is there.  :(

Easy enough. If you are missing counters I'm pretty sure it would be easy enough to replicate them.

True. The ones in the pix above look home-brewed as well. If not, the die-cutting run must have been done on a monday morning or a friday afternoon.


Those pictured above are home-brewed (available on BGG still I believe).  Interesting timing on renewing this thread as I was just thinking of this game earlier today.  My personal to-do list for it: 1) update/completely overhaul the VASSAL module 2) finish adding and proofing all the charts for my online GAP program 3) finish building out a complete players copy of the game.  I have 3 copies of this game (one is unpunched and will remain so for the time being).  The other two are players copies so I want to find the best counter from the set and make a nice players copy.  I will then likely donate the 3rd copy to somebody that I know will play it.  This is definitely a game that you want to acquire given the opportunity.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: bbmike on July 29, 2017, 09:25:26 AM
Finally took the shrink wrap off this(the seller actually shrink wrapped and packed it nicely!). I was very, very happy with the contents. The seller said this came from an estate sale. According to what is listed on Board Game Geek I have everything except the counter tray (did this really ship with a counter tray?). All of the counters were there. Even the registration card and an Avalon Hill order form. The counters seemed as if they were just punched, still very dusty! This game was either never played or only used once or twice. There was even a nice photocopied review from Fire & Movement #73 in the box. Whoever owned this, thank you for taking such good care. (http://www.aarcentral.com/pics/worship.gif)
Also, while I was sorting out the airplane counters, I was confused to find F-14s, A-7s, and A-6s. I thought, "What is this? The Final Countdown?". I pulled out the rules and looked. Scenario 32.0 The Final Countdown. Damn! (http://www.aarcentral.com/pics/drool.gif)

Now I need to find a proper counter try.

p.s. Some of you are probably wondering so...I paid $110 for it.  :buck2:
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: Barthheart on July 29, 2017, 10:30:09 AM
...
p.s. Some of you are probably wondering so...I paid $110 for it.  :buck2:

OUCH! I was going to offer to buy GJK's extra copy but....  :o
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: GJK on July 29, 2017, 10:36:37 AM
Carrier did ship with a tray.  AH used the "clamshell" all clear trays back in the day. 

One Plano 3701 will work just fine for this one and you'll never have to worry about a flimsy counter tray lid coming off and pieces going everywhere.


I still need to finish putting together the extra copy and verifying it but once I do, this place will be the first that I go to look for any interested buyers.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: Barthheart on July 29, 2017, 11:32:23 AM
 O0
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: bbmike on July 29, 2017, 12:11:13 PM
...
p.s. Some of you are probably wondering so...I paid $110 for it.  :buck2:

OUCH! I was going to offer to buy GJK's extra copy but....  :o

I know. That's the best deal I've seen in a while. Considering the shape it is in I don't feel too bad.
Now the only question is to clip or not......  >:D
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: BanzaiCat on July 29, 2017, 05:09:23 PM
The Nimitz should be in the counter mix too...
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: GJK on July 30, 2017, 08:41:04 AM
Yup.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: mirth on July 30, 2017, 08:45:55 AM
Yup.

Corners need to be trimmed. Otherwise awesome  O0
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: bbmike on July 30, 2017, 09:19:43 AM
One thing I've noticed on these old counters is not only do the corners need trimming, there also top and side bits that need trimming as well.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: GJK on July 30, 2017, 12:50:18 PM
Yup.

Corners need to be trimmed. Otherwise awesome  O0


Nothing to trim yet - that's from my unpunched set.  :)
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: bbmike on October 07, 2017, 06:32:30 PM
For those that are still looking, Noble Knight has a copy of Carrier in stock for $225 (http://www.nobleknight.com/productdetailsearch.asp_Q_ProductID_E_-1495555778_A_InventoryID_E_2148577665).  :D
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: mirth on October 07, 2017, 06:44:26 PM
Tempting...
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: GJK on October 15, 2017, 05:08:54 AM
Verifying the contents of my 3 copies of Carrier this weekend (yes, I'm showing off):
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: Staggerwing on October 15, 2017, 05:24:22 AM
Nice.

Also, that looks like a handy table you have there.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: GJK on October 15, 2017, 05:50:04 AM
Yeah, another Goodwill pick up for $15.  It folds up into a portable with handle.  It came felt lined like that too.  I don't know if it was meant to be a portable blackjack table or what but it's perfect for little games.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: GJK on October 21, 2017, 03:30:18 PM
Had this printed today - came out bbeeeeauuuuttttiiffffulllll!
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: mirth on October 21, 2017, 03:37:52 PM
wow. gorgeous.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: bbmike on October 21, 2017, 04:22:08 PM
What size? I've thought about having some of my game maps printed smaller to fit my tiny game table.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: Staggerwing on October 21, 2017, 04:30:27 PM
Oooh... shiny!
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: GJK on October 21, 2017, 05:45:28 PM
What size? I've thought about having some of my game maps printed smaller to fit my tiny game table.


I enlarged the hexes when I redrew this one to fit a 5/8" counter so it's a large map (44"x30").
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: DennisS on October 22, 2017, 10:56:46 AM
What size? I've thought about having some of my game maps printed smaller to fit my tiny game table.


I enlarged the hexes when I redrew this one to fit a 5/8" counter so it's a large map (44"x30").

The missus and I finished building our retirement home about a year ago. Specifically, I have my gaming room with a PERMANENT gaming table built into the office. The official rule is LEAVE MY GAME ALONE, even if it sits there for weeks. I have enough space, on three sides, for any game you can imagine. Main table is four feet deep, and I have to stand up and reach to get to it. More for rules, boxes, and extra stuff than actual board. Still, this works. Gotta have me that extra space.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: bbmike on October 22, 2017, 11:55:57 AM
^That's my ultimate goal. But in the meantime- tiny game table.  :(
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: mirth on October 22, 2017, 11:59:01 AM
tiny game table.  :(

It's not the size of the table, it's how you play the game ;)
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: Toonces on October 22, 2017, 12:10:25 PM
Toonces likey.   :notworthy:
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: bbmike on April 20, 2018, 04:12:49 PM
Another copy back in stock at Noble Knight Games for the bargin price of $175 (https://www.nobleknight.com/P/-1495555778)!  :D
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: mirth on April 20, 2018, 04:14:03 PM
Tempting
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: BanzaiCat on April 20, 2018, 05:31:11 PM
Jesus. That IS tempting, to sell my copy!
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: mirth on April 20, 2018, 05:32:26 PM
Jesus. That IS tempting, to sell my copy!

Make me an offer.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: Barthheart on April 20, 2018, 06:34:39 PM
Twenty dolla!
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: bbmike on April 20, 2018, 06:36:54 PM
Play solitaire long time?
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: GJK on May 12, 2018, 06:42:58 AM
Started up another scenario of it last weekend - still my favorite solo game, hands down!
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: bbmike on May 12, 2018, 07:25:59 AM
Started up another scenario of it last weekend - still my favorite solo game, hands down!

I am envious!  :notworthy:
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on May 12, 2018, 06:16:02 PM
Played some LnL: Day of Heroes, some Tanks, and some Elusive Victory as a send off for my friend. 

Started a campaign of Descent using the app with some friends and had a blast.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: DennisS on May 19, 2018, 07:07:33 PM
Started up another scenario of it last weekend - still my favorite solo game, hands down!

I may fire up this game..give it another shot. Problem is that many of the rules lack clarity, or even downright contradict each other. What we need is thorough video play through. The only one online is quite poorly done.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: bbmike on May 19, 2018, 07:37:30 PM
More in stock! $175 or $125! (https://www.nobleknight.com/P/-1495555778/Carrier)
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: BanzaiCat on May 19, 2018, 07:48:38 PM
lol

If someone offered me $500 for it, I'd give it up. Otherwise...nah.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: GJK on May 20, 2018, 03:15:57 PM
Started up another scenario of it last weekend - still my favorite solo game, hands down!

I may fire up this game..give it another shot. Problem is that many of the rules lack clarity, or even downright contradict each other. What we need is thorough video play through. The only one online is quite poorly done.


I agree, we do need some videos on this one.  I'd *love* to see Stuka Joe cover this one.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: Yskonyn on October 06, 2018, 09:19:16 AM
I found a copy of Carrier, punched, but from a non-smoking home and in good condition. The seller asks 95 euro's, what do you think?

In the mean time I have found the rulebook in PDF form and browsed this thread to find GJK's Vassal module! I am going to run the game in the coming days, but it sure seems like its something I would enjoy.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: Toonces on October 06, 2018, 09:54:37 AM
That seems pretty reasonable.  It's a neat game.  If you want it, I'd pony up the cash and get it!
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: GJK on October 09, 2018, 04:04:31 AM
I'm selling PDF's of my kit for $35.  I've heard from Jon Southard and I have his "blessing" on it.  The kit includes everything needed for the game, my redrawn map (enlarged hexes, new design), all the counters plus extras (5/8", new look), charts (redrawn and organized as a booklet), and rules (including errata and color counter samples which clears up the common confusion of what the different colored chits are for).  I've found that www.posterninja.com has very reasonable printing options for the map and there's a number of tutorials for mounting your own counters (and I'd be happy to share my "technique" as well).




Ping me here or more promptly via email gary at garykrockover dot com.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: Yskonyn on October 09, 2018, 04:15:01 AM
Wow that's awesome Gary!
Let me check for a reasonably priced poster printer here in Holland to see if I can get things done here.
I'll definately get back to you when I find good options.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: Staggerwing on October 09, 2018, 04:54:43 AM
Gary, I'd definitely be interested. I'll PM you.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: Barthheart on October 09, 2018, 06:07:58 AM
Never played Carrier... but I might just have to get this version.
Well done Gary.  O0
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: bbmike on October 09, 2018, 07:20:01 AM
Wow, beautiful map! I might be interest in a copy as well.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: GJK on October 09, 2018, 07:20:09 AM
The map prints out at 44"x30" for those checking on prices. 
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: Barthheart on October 09, 2018, 09:34:29 AM
The map prints out at 44"x30" for those checking on prices.

That will just fit on my work plotter....  ;)
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: Crossroads on October 09, 2018, 01:15:02 PM
Wow that's awesome Gary!

Gorgeous map indeed!
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: Toonces on October 10, 2018, 05:08:47 PM
Beautiful.   :smitten:
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: Yskonyn on October 11, 2018, 05:21:18 AM
GJK will you update the Vassal module with the new kit graphics?
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: GJK on October 11, 2018, 11:18:15 AM

Yes, on my "to do" list! The existing module is screaming for an update and I'd love to use these graphics for it.  Not to toot my own horn (careful!) but the printed graphics look sweeeet and I think that it would work great for the VASSAL module as well.

GJK will you update the Vassal module with the new kit graphics?
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: bbmike on October 11, 2018, 11:43:37 AM

Yes, on my "to do" list! The existing module is screaming for an update and I'd love to use these graphics for it.  Not to toot my own horn (careful!) but the printed graphics look sweeeet and I think that it would work great for the VASSAL module as well.

GJK will you update the Vassal module with the new kit graphics?

 :bd:
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: GJK on August 27, 2019, 08:20:28 AM

Yes, on my "to do" list! The existing module is screaming for an update and I'd love to use these graphics for it.  Not to toot my own horn (careful!) but the printed graphics look sweeeet and I think that it would work great for the VASSAL module as well.

GJK will you update the Vassal module with the new kit graphics?

 :bd:


He lives! The module has been updated with all new graphics (v2.0): http://www.vassalengine.org/wiki/Module:Carrier


Let me know if anybody finds any issues or has any suggestions!
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: Barthheart on August 27, 2019, 08:38:31 AM

Yes, on my "to do" list! The existing module is screaming for an update and I'd love to use these graphics for it.  Not to toot my own horn (careful!) but the printed graphics look sweeeet and I think that it would work great for the VASSAL module as well.

GJK will you update the Vassal module with the new kit graphics?

 :bd:


He lives! The module has been updated with all new graphics (v2.0): http://www.vassalengine.org/wiki/Module:Carrier


Let me know if anybody finds any issues or has any suggestions!

 :notworthy:
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: W8taminute on August 29, 2019, 02:29:21 PM
Just noticed this thread because I'm currently on the lookout for another VG title, Vietnam 1965-1975.  It sounds like I need to go to Gen-con.

and just some general advice, or at the very least my humble opinion.  Unless you're on the verge of death due to starvation don't sell your unboxed unpunched game for 100 bucks.  It's not worth it.  Now if someone is willing to give you a grand or more for it then you might consider it. 
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: Ubercat on August 29, 2019, 06:17:25 PM
Did someone sell an unpunched copy of Vietnam 1965-75 for $100 recently?

Ive been thinking for the last couple of months that I need to reacquire this game (owned it twice before!). Its so good. Id be satisfied with a punched copy though. All I really need is the rule book in decent shape. Id play it on Vassal.

Last time I looked, prices were reasonable on EBay.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: W8taminute on August 30, 2019, 07:02:01 AM
Did someone sell an unpunched copy of Vietnam 1965-75 for $100 recently?

Ive been thinking for the last couple of months that I need to reacquire this game (owned it twice before!). Its so good. Id be satisfied with a punched copy though. All I really need is the rule book in decent shape. Id play it on Vassal.

Last time I looked, prices were reasonable on EBay.

I recently saw some copies being sold on eBay for under 150.  Both copies I saw for sale were unpunched and one was even still in shrinkwrap.  I just can't bring myself to buy anything off of eBay because of all the horror stories I've heard.   
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: GJK on September 02, 2019, 07:47:15 PM
Just noticed this thread because I'm currently on the lookout for another VG title, Vietnam 1965-1975.  It sounds like I need to go to Gen-con.

and just some general advice, or at the very least my humble opinion.  Unless you're on the verge of death due to starvation don't sell your unboxed unpunched game for 100 bucks.  It's not worth it.  Now if someone is willing to give you a grand or more for it then you might consider it.


I actually did sell it.  To be honest, with the upgrade kit that I made (and have printed and played on), I couldn't ever go back to playing on the original components and with PDF's of all of my materials, I'm always just a reprint away from having another copy of the game.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: DennisS on September 16, 2019, 03:30:31 PM
Did someone sell an unpunched copy of Vietnam 1965-75 for $100 recently?

Ive been thinking for the last couple of months that I need to reacquire this game (owned it twice before!). Its so good. Id be satisfied with a punched copy though. All I really need is the rule book in decent shape. Id play it on Vassal.

Last time I looked, prices were reasonable on EBay.

I recently saw some copies being sold on eBay for under 150.  Both copies I saw for sale were unpunched and one was even still in shrinkwrap.  I just can't bring myself to buy anything off of eBay because of all the horror stories I've heard.   

I have purchased one, single thing off of E-Bay in my life, a copy of Tokyo Express. After 30 full days, I still didn't have the game, and it was the very last day to give input. This is after MANY emails to the seller. So..I left a bad review. I got SMOKED with a bad review by the seller. He had a 91% rating for 2000+  sells, I had a ZERO percent rating after one purchase. I received the game two weeks later. SMH...
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on September 16, 2019, 08:06:31 PM
Partially punched copy just went for $90 on Facebook CONSIM marketplace.
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: Toonces on September 17, 2019, 04:21:12 PM
How much is an unpunched copy worth?  Asking for....a friend...   :hide:
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: GJK on October 24, 2019, 02:46:14 PM
A copy just went up for sale on the CONSIM marketplace (Facebook) again...this time $87.50.  May be the same one (guy says he's posted it a few times before with no takers).
Title: Re: Carrier (Solitaire, VG)
Post by: JasonPratt on October 24, 2019, 03:16:14 PM
I wish I had even some place to play it.

Or some place to play it with my brother.

 :'( :'( :'(