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Title: Anno 1800 - anyone tried it?
Post by: JudgeDredd on April 14, 2019, 10:44:11 AM
What's the series like? Seems like it might be a bit like Civilisation but I'm not sure.

Anyone tried the beta of 1800?
Title: Re: Anno 1800 - anyone tried it?
Post by: devoncop on April 14, 2019, 11:00:49 AM
What's the series like? Seems like it might be a bit like Civilisation but I'm not sure.

Anyone tried the beta of 1800?

Nothing like Div series.

It is basically a more involved city builder than something like Tropico.

The 1800 iteration is very good to look at. The mechanics are very similar to Anno 1404 which is an old game available for pennies and regarded as the benchmark for the series .

I would say buy 1404 and see what you think or watch one of the You Tube let's plays for Anno 1800.
Title: Re: Anno 1800 - anyone tried it?
Post by: Pete Dero on April 14, 2019, 12:21:55 PM
A let's try by Quill




Lowest price (for Europe) : https://www.voidu.com/en/anno-1800-  (43 € -20% / use code gamingtime)


Game won't be available for sale on Steam after launch (don't know about other resellers).

https://www.pcgamesn.com/anno-1800/steam

Ubisoft’s Anno 1800 is the latest game to drop from Steam in favour of the Epic Games store.


Title: Re: Anno 1800 - anyone tried it?
Post by: Anguille on April 14, 2019, 12:41:52 PM
Would love to but not going to buy anything by Ubisoft anymore.
Title: Re: Anno 1800 - anyone tried it?
Post by: Gusington on April 14, 2019, 12:45:15 PM
1404 is a huge game...tons of scenarios, etc.
Title: Re: Anno 1800 - anyone tried it?
Post by: JudgeDredd on April 14, 2019, 01:57:26 PM
Thanks all. I'm trying the beta just now.

We'll see.
Title: Re: Anno 1800 - anyone tried it?
Post by: Gusington on April 14, 2019, 02:21:30 PM
Please post what you think - been looking forward to this one.
Title: Re: Anno 1800 - anyone tried it?
Post by: Jarhead0331 on April 14, 2019, 02:37:30 PM
I played the beta. Its very addictive and it looks great. Very high-quality and well-polished.

I am, however, very disappointed that there is only naval combat. No troops for taking islands... :'(

Not sure if I'm going to buy on day one, or if I'll wait for some DLCs.
Title: Re: Anno 1800 - anyone tried it?
Post by: Gusington on April 14, 2019, 03:28:15 PM
Naval combat between steamships?
Title: Re: Anno 1800 - anyone tried it?
Post by: Jarhead0331 on April 14, 2019, 03:42:05 PM
Naval combat between steamships?

Yes....and ships of sail too. It's very basic though. Anno has never been a combat game. Its all about city building, supply chains, making citizens happy in order to upgrade them, etc.
Title: Re: Anno 1800 - anyone tried it?
Post by: em2nought on April 14, 2019, 06:09:52 PM
Naval combat between steamships?

Yes....and ships of sail too. It's very basic though. Anno has never been a combat game. Its all about city building, supply chains, making citizens happy in order to upgrade them, etc.

I guess we'll just have to wait for Ultimate Admiral.
Title: Re: Anno 1800 - anyone tried it?
Post by: JudgeDredd on April 15, 2019, 12:09:07 AM
Please post what you think - been looking forward to this one.
I didn't get enough time with the beta to make a decision really - late joining it.

It did look beautiful.

Is it just me or is it "akin" to Cities Skylines? CS was a city builder, upgrading buildings, public buildings, important buildings, transport etc. I know this has trade and production so it's probably more in-depth...but none the less, it's along the same lines, yes?

NM - it's actually like a ton of games (mechanics wise) which is fine because that's standard fair (starter buildings, upgrading, resources requiring specific buildings etc)...but it's pretty indepth looking at Quill's intro video (thanks for the link Pete)
Title: Re: Anno 1800 - anyone tried it?
Post by: Grim.Reaper on April 15, 2019, 03:15:12 AM
i wasn’t even remotely interested in this game, builder type games always sound great but never last long for me.  however, looking at a few videos here and there have me rethinking my stance.  i must stay strong and just wait fir some future sale:)
Title: Re: Anno 1800 - anyone tried it?
Post by: JudgeDredd on April 15, 2019, 04:01:44 AM
i wasn’t even remotely interested in this game, builder type games always sound great but never last long for me.  however, looking at a few videos here and there have me rethinking my stance.  i must stay strong and just wait fir some future sale:)
Yeah I loved Cities Skylines, Civ games, Stellaris. I know they're all different in some way, shape and form, but a key theme is "building and expanding" and I do eventually get tired of the process.

This does look very deep. I would say though it looks the same as Cities Skylines in that I would be forever fretting about my layout. Also, things were happening at a fairly quick pace last night in the BETA - playing the campaign as opposed to the free mode.

I'm on the fence at the moment...but there is some draw there (I just know I'm going to give in  :'( )
Title: Re: Anno 1800 - anyone tried it?
Post by: Pete Dero on April 15, 2019, 05:09:54 AM
I'm on the fence at the moment...but there is some draw there (I just know I'm going to give in  :'( )

(https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.dIWW5DBy0HO5kqnmC-T92QHaEK%26pid%3D15.1&f=1)
Title: Re: Anno 1800 - anyone tried it?
Post by: Gusington on April 15, 2019, 07:55:06 AM
PC Gamer claims it is the best Anno game ever.
Title: Re: Anno 1800 - anyone tried it?
Post by: Pete Dero on April 15, 2019, 08:00:30 AM
https://www.pcgamesn.com/anno-1800/review
https://www.pcinvasion.com/review/anno-1800-review/
https://www.pcgamer.com/anno-1800-review/
Title: Re: Anno 1800 - anyone tried it?
Post by: Grim.Reaper on April 15, 2019, 08:22:19 AM
I never played any Anno before so tempted...
Title: Re: Anno 1800 - anyone tried it?
Post by: Sir Slash on April 15, 2019, 09:09:08 AM
It does look good. Even I'm tempted and I don't like these real-time builders.
Title: Re: Anno 1800 - anyone tried it?
Post by: Jarhead0331 on April 15, 2019, 09:53:35 AM
I think if you are not interested in real time city builders you will be wasting your money and time. As good as the game may look, and as noted above, the Anno series has always been primarily a city builder focused on resource collection and conversion of raw resources into manufactured goods for distribution to your citizens in order to obtain access to higher tier buildings, supplies and goods. There is a very basic layer of combat added into the game to keep up the action while your supply chains are moving, but the combat in my experience is basic, rudimentary and not very satisfying.

However, the city building aspect of the game is highly addictive and enjoyable, but obviously, only so to those players who like that kind of a game. 

As far as combat goes, I'd like to see something along the lines of the Cossacks series. The supply chain element for recruiting citizens, and converting resources into weapons, uniforms and ships is all there. Why not expand upon it a little bit and permit the player to transport them to new islands and lands to conquer. Some of the other titles in the series have come close to this, but 1800 has moved away from the more fully featured combat, limiting it to ships only with no ground troops whatsoever.
Title: Re: Anno 1800 - anyone tried it?
Post by: Queeg on April 15, 2019, 10:00:22 AM
I've been looking forward to this one for some time.  There are so few good Industrial Revolution era games out there, so I went ahead and pre-purchased through Steam just to avoid the hassle of a dealing with separate service.  We'll see.... 
Title: Re: Anno 1800 - anyone tried it?
Post by: bobarossa on April 15, 2019, 11:11:41 AM
If I remember correctly the early anno games did not allow issuing orders while paused.  Is that still the case?
Title: Re: Anno 1800 - anyone tried it?
Post by: mbar on April 15, 2019, 11:17:20 AM
If I remember correctly the early anno games did not allow issuing orders while paused.  Is that still the case?

I could not give orders while paused in Anno 1800.
Title: Re: Anno 1800 - anyone tried it?
Post by: JudgeDredd on April 15, 2019, 11:22:54 AM
I think if you are not interested in real time city builders you will be wasting your money and time.
lol - red rag and bull. Bought.
Title: Re: Anno 1800 - anyone tried it?
Post by: Jarhead0331 on April 15, 2019, 12:22:25 PM
I think if you are not interested in real time city builders you will be wasting your money and time.
lol - red rag and bull. Bought.

Well, at least you know its a game that you can actually get running, so there is that.
Title: Re: Anno 1800 - anyone tried it?
Post by: Grim.Reaper on April 15, 2019, 06:27:01 PM
Whew, dodged a bullet....went to purchase from greenman because had discount and it was sold out......was going to pull the trigger for the cheaper price, but now I can wait:)

Probably was a very good thing!
Title: Re: Anno 1800 - anyone tried it?
Post by: Gusington on April 15, 2019, 08:27:08 PM
 :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: Anno 1800 - anyone tried it?
Post by: Con on April 16, 2019, 08:06:29 AM
Was getting ready to pull the trigger on this as an impulse buy on STEAM.  Then found out that STEAM will not be selling it with a un reasuringly vague promise that Ubisoft will support steam patches dlc in the future.  I am not a fan of ubisoft and in fact I use steam to simplify my gaming purchases and aggregate all my games in one spot. (I am tired of multiple gaming sites requiring logon/internet connection etc in order to play a game).  My impulse was easily killed when I saw it was going to be a setup I didnt want to do so I decided to walk away.
Title: Re: Anno 1800 - anyone tried it?
Post by: Sir Slash on April 16, 2019, 08:15:01 AM
That's good to know. Thanks for the heads-up.  O0
Title: Re: Anno 1800 - anyone tried it?
Post by: Jarhead0331 on April 16, 2019, 08:27:59 AM
If I end up getting it, it will be direct from ubisoft through uplay.

Uplay had some problems when it was first released, but its been pretty reliable for me since...and by the way, all ubisoft titles require uplay anyway, even if you acquire the game on steam. 
Title: Re: Anno 1800 - anyone tried it?
Post by: MikeGER on April 16, 2019, 09:10:13 AM
i have an easter egg for you Gents  :)

CTRL+SHIFT+R get's you in the first person view (at least so it worked in the last beta)  you can walk and run and jump
the faces of the pedestrians are a woodcut-like , but it was never meant to get sooo close to them
 so its still an amazing feature to walk through the city you may just have build  and its zoo or even into the boxing arena...

i recently watched some live streams of one of my favorite German youtubers (Writing Bull)  for relaxation instead of telly and so learned about that feature on Sunday eve

the game is not my cup of tea atm, the military part is to tinny for me,  i am not into builders with product chains but the graphics are stunning
 
Title: Re: Anno 1800 - anyone tried it?
Post by: Con on April 16, 2019, 09:46:37 AM
If I end up getting it, it will be direct from ubisoft through uplay.

Uplay had some problems when it was first released, but its been pretty reliable for me since...and by the way, all ubisoft titles require uplay anyway, even if you acquire the game on steam.
I hadnt really put 2 and 2 together when the earlier thread was referencing Ubisoft I was just going with my first action which is to go to steam.  My dislike of multiple gaming site logins has just grown for me into an aversion of having to deal with them over the last couple of years.  I rarely play anything now that requires a separate login and that includes my ubisoft titles that I own.  Too little time too many games that I havent played the barrier to get me to adopt has been driven pretty low and for me its all about convenience and keeping everything organized and aggregated together.

Shame looks like a nice game but probably for the best that I keep my focus on trying to win the Smolensk scenario in war in the east.

Con
Title: Re: Anno 1800 - anyone tried it?
Post by: Jarhead0331 on April 16, 2019, 09:49:22 AM
If I end up getting it, it will be direct from ubisoft through uplay.

Uplay had some problems when it was first released, but its been pretty reliable for me since...and by the way, all ubisoft titles require uplay anyway, even if you acquire the game on steam.
I hadnt really put 2 and 2 together when the earlier thread was referencing Ubisoft I was just going with my first action which is to go to steam.  My dislike of multiple gaming site logins has just grown for me into an aversion of having to deal with them over the last couple of years.  I rarely play anything now that requires a separate login and that includes my ubisoft titles that I own.  Too little time too many games that I havent played the barrier to get me to adopt has been driven pretty low and for me its all about convenience and keeping everything organized and aggregated together.

Shame looks like a nice game but probably for the best that I keep my focus on trying to win the Smolensk scenario in war in the east.

Con

I agree with the impulse to avoid having too many third-party programs requiring login for play. I seem to be at my threshold, which is at least part of the reason why I'm resistant to Epic.  However, since I'm already comfortable with uplay and use it frequently for games like Division, Tom Clancy, Assiassins Creed, Far Cry, etc., acquiring new games that require this platform is a non-issue for me.
Title: Re: Anno 1800 - anyone tried it?
Post by: Gusington on April 16, 2019, 04:32:16 PM
Also waiting for a sale price to pop up...eventually.
Title: Re: Anno 1800 - anyone tried it?
Post by: mbar on April 16, 2019, 06:35:55 PM
Gad! Note to self: Do not pre-load any game from Steam. They just end up downloading the same amount anyway. Fix that to beat Epic why dontcha!?
Title: Re: Anno 1800 - anyone tried it?
Post by: Anguille on April 17, 2019, 05:14:53 AM
Uplay had some problems when it was first released, but its been pretty reliable for me since...and by the way, all ubisoft titles require uplay anyway, even if you acquire the game on steam.
That's why i don't buy ubisoft games...
Title: Re: Anno 1800 - anyone tried it?
Post by: Wolfe1759 on April 17, 2019, 06:16:15 PM
All the Anno talk prompted me to reinstall Anno 2070 on my Steam account. Installed it on Steam then followed all the UPlay prompts, watched all the patches reinstall via UPlay, started up the game then got an error saying my CD Key was already being used by someone else on UPlay and was therefore unable to play the game that I own  :tickedoff:

Don't buy anything that relies on UPlay to play  >:(

P.S. then I reinstalled Anno 1404 which works absolutely fine, maybe that is because it doesn't use UPlay  :)
Title: Re: Anno 1800 - anyone tried it?
Post by: Huw the Poo on April 17, 2019, 06:26:49 PM
Don't buy anything that relies on UPlay to play  >:(

I won't; but thanks for the cautionary tale anyway.  Are you going to take it up with support?
Title: Re: Anno 1800 - anyone tried it?
Post by: Jarhead0331 on April 17, 2019, 08:12:05 PM
All the Anno talk prompted me to reinstall Anno 2070 on my Steam account. Installed it on Steam then followed all the UPlay prompts, watched all the patches reinstall via UPlay, started up the game then got an error saying my CD Key was already being used by someone else on UPlay and was therefore unable to play the game that I own  :tickedoff:

Don't buy anything that relies on UPlay to play  >:(

P.S. then I reinstalled Anno 1404 which works absolutely fine, maybe that is because it doesn't use UPlay  :)

Are you sure you are using the right uplay account? This once happened to me. I had two uplay accounts for some reason and had registered a game to one of them and forgot, and then I tried registering it again to the other account. It took awhile to remember that I had that other account that the game had been registered to.