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Title: Imperator: Rome
Post by: steve58 on February 05, 2019, 02:54:02 PM
Release date announced:  April 25
Price ~$40

https://steamcommunity.com/games/859580/announcements/detail/1750114627259894945

(tried to search for any existing threads, but the Search feature seems hosed for me lately...)
Title: Re: Imperator: Rome
Post by: IronX on February 05, 2019, 03:23:25 PM
Eeek!  :D
Title: Re: Imperator: Rome
Post by: Grim.Reaper on February 05, 2019, 03:54:43 PM
Awesome!  I thought it wasn't coming out to much later this year.....instant buy and preorder.
Title: Re: Imperator: Rome
Post by: Grim.Reaper on February 05, 2019, 04:02:54 PM
BTW, greenmangaming is offering 10% off for both deluxe and standard edition.....
Title: Re: Imperator: Rome
Post by: JasonPratt on February 05, 2019, 05:58:10 PM
I saw that earlier today when booting up Steam at work for other purposes (my Lords of Waterdeep matches).

I preordered so fast, my head spun around and snapped: "WHY NOT WAIT FOUR YEARS UNTIL THE BUGS ARE WORKED OUT OF THE BASE GAME AND THE FIRST SEVEN DLC PACKS?!?"
Title: Re: Imperator: Rome
Post by: CJReich46 on February 05, 2019, 10:19:55 PM
I saw that earlier today when booting up Steam at work for other purposes (my Lords of Waterdeep matches).

I preordered so fast, my head spun around and snapped: "WHY NOT WAIT FOUR YEARS UNTIL THE BUGS ARE WORKED OUT OF THE BASE GAME AND THE FIRST SEVEN DLC PACKS?!?"

I saw that. I am holding my powder on this one.
Title: Re: Imperator: Rome
Post by: Tpek on February 06, 2019, 08:03:11 AM
Europa Universalis Rome 3?

I hope that they finally got rid of the typical Paradox-style diplomacy system, it's what always ruins those games for me.

Vercingetorix: "Sorry Caesar, I know you conquered all of Gaul, but I'm not willing to let you have any of it. So I'm just going to be sitting here in the comfort of my home, which you dare not interrupt, and refuse all your diplomatic pleas to have any of the territory.
Maybe one day, I I feel generous, I will let you have some tiny tract of land in exchange for you having to wage war all over again".  :idiot2:
Title: Re: Imperator: Rome
Post by: JasonPratt on February 06, 2019, 11:17:09 AM
Europa Universalis Rome 3?

Was there a EURome2?  ???

The engine looks like a major step in the direction of Rome:Total War (for whatever that's worth -- I regard the visuals as an improvement). And I doubt they've gotten rid of whatever diplomacy system has been behind Vicky2, CK2, and EU4.
Title: Re: Imperator: Rome
Post by: Tpek on February 06, 2019, 11:27:14 AM
Europa Universalis Rome 3?

Was there a EURome2?  ???

The engine looks like a major step in the direction of Rome:Total War (for whatever that's worth -- I regard the visuals as an improvement). And I doubt they've gotten rid of whatever diplomacy system has been behind Vicky2, CK2, and EU4.

I seem to remember a EUR2 game.
Title: Re: Imperator: Rome
Post by: glen55 on February 06, 2019, 12:06:42 PM
I'm in. With over 2K hours in on EU4 & HOI 4, and having done a recent spate of ancient history reading after being inspired by AC Odyssey, this is the no brainer of no brainers. I usually wait for the reviews these days, but I can't fool myself about whether I'm going to buy this or not no matter what the reviews say. The only question is when, and it might as well be early.

p.s. Pretty doggoned sure Paradox never slipped an EU Rome 2 by me. Y'all confused w/TW Rome 2 by any chance?
Title: Re: Imperator: Rome
Post by: Gusington on February 06, 2019, 12:12:57 PM
EURome 2...Shadow Magic?
Title: Re: Imperator: Rome
Post by: Grim.Reaper on February 06, 2019, 12:38:32 PM
Pretty sure no version 2 but think I remember some expansion and patch that had to be paid for
Title: Re: Imperator: Rome
Post by: JasonPratt on February 06, 2019, 12:49:03 PM
I think the original EU Rome was based on a heavily modified version of EU2.

That wouldn't be EURome 2, but an "EU" and a "2" would be heavily connected to the title.

(Relatedly, EURome is on sale at Steam at heavy discount during the Lunar sale and/or to promote the coming title.)
Title: Re: Imperator: Rome
Post by: sandman2575 on February 06, 2019, 02:22:04 PM
Day one purchase without question.

I still find it weird how long Pdox is taking with its "Man the Guns" DLC. Still no release date. The original announcement was in May 2018, which is also when they announced Imperator.
Title: Re: Imperator: Rome
Post by: Grim.Reaper on February 06, 2019, 04:17:30 PM
If people thinking of buying, not a bad deal at fanatical......$45 for deluxe or $33 for standard edition, using the code Lunar8.  I guess its possible better sales may come before release, but guessing not drastically different. 

Title: Re: Imperator: Rome
Post by: Grim.Reaper on February 06, 2019, 04:43:51 PM
Day one purchase without question.

I still find it weird how long Pdox is taking with its "Man the Guns" DLC. Still no release date. The original announcement was in May 2018, which is also when they announced Imperator.

Saw rumor somewhere the  release date to be announced tomorrow.
Title: Re: Imperator: Rome
Post by: Toonces on February 06, 2019, 05:38:26 PM
Was the Rome 2 version Vae Victus?
Title: Re: Imperator: Rome
Post by: Toonces on February 06, 2019, 05:39:15 PM
and having done a recent spate of ancient history reading


What have you been reading?
Title: Re: Imperator: Rome
Post by: Grim.Reaper on February 06, 2019, 05:39:59 PM
Was the Rome 2 version Vae Victus?

that was its expansion, donít think ever was a rome 2
Title: Re: Imperator: Rome
Post by: Toonces on February 06, 2019, 05:42:15 PM
Ah...gotcha. 

I have both in my Steam library.  I've tried to get into Vae Victus a few times, but the fun eludes me.

CK2 is my sweet spot.   :smitten:
Title: Re: Imperator: Rome
Post by: sandman2575 on February 06, 2019, 05:53:39 PM
Day one purchase without question.

I still find it weird how long Pdox is taking with its "Man the Guns" DLC. Still no release date. The original announcement was in May 2018, which is also when they announced Imperator.

Saw rumor somewhere the  release date to be announced tomorrow.

Hope the rumor mill is right. It's well past time that Pdox wrapped this DLC up.
Title: Re: Imperator: Rome
Post by: glen55 on February 06, 2019, 06:02:44 PM
and having done a recent spate of ancient history reading


What have you been reading?

I read Anthony Everett's The Rise of Athens and enjoyed it so much that I went back and re-read the good parts. I wouldn't call it completely authoritative, but it's literary and Everitt clearly has a pretty good grasp of the material.

Reread a couple of beloved Mary Renault novels, The King Must Die and The Bull From The Sea (about Theseus): man, I love her stuff.

Next up is Thomas R. Martin, Ancient Greece.

Not sure how long I'll be on this kick, but I'm enjoying it: for me, Western history had always started around 1066. Got any recommendations?
Title: Re: Imperator: Rome
Post by: Gusington on February 06, 2019, 06:35:16 PM
I have a few:

Legion vs. Phalanx: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/1472828429/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

A War Like No Other: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/0812969707/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_10?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

Taken at the Flood: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/0190468882/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
Title: Re: Imperator: Rome
Post by: Toonces on February 06, 2019, 06:49:49 PM
No recommendations from me beyond Rubicon.  That's why I asked you!

I've tried reading a novel The First Man in Rome by Colleen McCullough like three times and I finally gave up, for the third time, Monday.  I simply cannot for all my effort get into the book.  There's a great story there, I know it, but hot damn is the book fucking boring.  What's worse is I bought it (for the second time) along with its sequel.  What good is a sequel if you don't read the first book?  What good, I ask you?!
Title: Re: Imperator: Rome
Post by: Gusington on February 06, 2019, 07:13:29 PM
It's like posting in a forum and not reading the posts above yours!
Title: Re: Imperator: Rome
Post by: besilarius on February 07, 2019, 04:51:30 AM
Glen, Philip Matyzak's books, Sparta - Rise of a Warrior Nation, and Sparta -Fall of a Warrior Nation, are both very good.  Together they give the most complete picture of Sparta that I've seen.
Also, there is a new book on Thucydides on Strategy, and the strategies he reveals in the Pelopennisian War.  Curious about this, but cannot say if it's worthwhile yet.
Title: Re: Imperator: Rome
Post by: WargamerJoe on February 07, 2019, 08:28:21 AM
I recently finished reading Pax Romana by Adrian Goldsworthy. Was a really interesting read, especially illuminating on how the Republic first started acquiring its 'Empire', and exploring what it really meant to be a 'province' versus a protectorate, etc...

Most of the time areas were left to govern themselves, regardless of whether they had a governor or not.
Title: Re: Imperator: Rome
Post by: glen55 on February 07, 2019, 08:57:48 AM
Thanks for the recommendations, I guess, but now I'm snowed!

Seriously, it's all good. Even though I don't read nearly as much as I did when I was not a lawyer who reads at work all day, when I get on a tear with a subject I can still run through a few books.
Title: Re: Imperator: Rome
Post by: CJReich46 on February 07, 2019, 11:38:12 AM
Day one purchase without question.

I still find it weird how long Pdox is taking with its "Man the Guns" DLC. Still no release date. The original announcement was in May 2018, which is also when they announced Imperator.

Man The Guns - Feb 28th.  ^-^
Title: Re: Imperator: Rome
Post by: Pete Dero on March 26, 2019, 08:05:48 AM
https://www.twitch.tv/paradoxinteractive

Imperator Rome Developer Clash streaming now.
Title: Re: Imperator: Rome
Post by: RommelFox on March 28, 2019, 11:13:55 AM
I have EUIV, Crusader Kings II and VIC II sitting pretty much unplayed from a bundle purchase.  I should really dive into them, or buy this because we know ROME is the greatest.
Title: Re: Imperator: Rome
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 26, 2019, 06:28:03 PM
https://steamcommunity.com/games/859580/announcements/detail/1613893608679271371 (https://steamcommunity.com/games/859580/announcements/detail/1613893608679271371)

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The features of this update include:

    Dual Rulers: The historic second consuls of Rome and suffetes of Carthage are now represented in these republics, and a monarchís spouse contributes to the rule of the kingdom.
    Heritage: Nations now have traditional profiles that reflect their historic strengths, adding more differentiation between nations.
    Naval Combat: More types of ships and new tactical options for combat, similar to those available on land.
    Naval Range: Ships can travel a limited distance from a friendly port before suffering attrition. This attrition can be reduced by inventions.
    Pirates: Pirates now operate from a pirate haven in a specific province. Clearing out this base will reduce pirate activity for a while. Also, pirates may now be hired as mercenaries.
    Release Subjects: Reduce unrest by ceding limited independence to provinces that do not like your rule.
    Province Improvements: Cities can build special projects that come with major permanent bonuses, crafting a major metropolis for your realm.
    Stability Rework: Stability is now a 100 point scale (base of 50) with corresponding bonuses and penalties along the range.
    New Government Interactions: Give a specific family greater power, call a War Council in times of emergency
    Navigable Rivers: Fleets can now sail the great rivers of the region (Nile, Tigris and Euphrates) opening up new military strategies.
    New Commander Traits: Admirals and generals earn new traits while leading forces.
    Move Capital: Relocate your national center of power or provincial capitals.
    New Events: New event chains, including flavor events for Rome, Italy and Carthage. New events related to military commanders and slavery.
Title: Re: Imperator: Rome
Post by: sambo on June 27, 2019, 03:39:44 AM
The base game is available on the Xbox game pass so is available on windows 10 PC (plus about 100 games on PC).  If you are on Xbox live already the current deal is insane value... convert the residual term of your Xbox live membership to game pass up to 36 months for $1.  So I extended for 2 years for a$5 p.m. first (turning off auto renew and then back on again to get 2 more months free) and then paid $1.  One of the best deals I have ever seen.

Apologies if this has been posted already.
Title: Re: Imperator: Rome
Post by: Grim.Reaper on June 27, 2019, 04:24:48 AM
The base game is available on the Xbox game pass so is available on windows 10 PC (plus about 100 games on PC).  If you are on Xbox live already the current deal is insane value... convert the residual term of your Xbox live membership to game pass up to 36 months for $1.  So I extended for 2 years for a$5 p.m. first (turning off auto renew and then back on again to get 2 more months free) and then paid $1.  One of the best deals I have ever seen.

Apologies if this has been posted already.

Not that it hugely matters, but is it $1 per month or in total?  I went to try it and said $1 for first month and then said $14.99 thereafter.....maybe I am doing it wrong.
Title: Re: Imperator: Rome
Post by: sambo on June 27, 2019, 04:57:22 AM
Yes it is $1 for the first month ... so it is only great value if you have a longer subscription ... once you buy the $1 option it will convert your remaining xbox live subscription to Game Pass ... so I had 9 months left on mine and then bought 2 x 12 months for A$62 and then got 2 extra months for turning off the auto renew and turning back on when activating.

There are about 100+ games on the PC immediately available and 200+ on the xbox and you generally get around 3 free games per month if you log on and click the option to purchase the game in the 15-30 day window.

So a 3 month subscription + $1 might be a great way to try this game + 100 others out if you are only pc gaming but then $15 p.m. for the bigger catalogue.

It will or does already include flight sim, gears of war 4 and 5, Forza 4 etc ... I thought since I already have xbox live it is a no-brainer.
Title: Re: Imperator: Rome
Post by: sambo on June 27, 2019, 04:59:16 AM
This should be the USA link:  https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/xbox-game-pass-for-pc-beta/cfq7ttc0kgq8?activetab=pivot%3aoverviewtab

IMO it is just ridiculous value to at least buy a 3 month subscription and then pay $1 and you get 4-5 months to just stuff around.
Title: Re: Imperator: Rome
Post by: sambo on June 27, 2019, 05:00:19 AM
[edit] And it looks like if you are USA it is only US$5.00 p.m. ... damn AUD/USD :( ... if you are pc only subscriber it is only USD4.99 per month and USD1.00 p.m. for first month but I assume if you have an xbox you can convert a longer subscription to xbox + pc at around USD9.99 p.m.

I still argue this is ridiculous value to at least try these games out + if you have an xbox it is ludicrous value.