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Title: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: JasonPratt on September 19, 2018, 05:36:29 PM
Huh. Had some trouble actually finding it on my YT list. Reactions, yep, but not the trailer itself for a while.

Here's from the official Marvel site (I think):



Seems legit! Plenty of fanservice.


....NO NOT THAT TYPE OF--


 ::) Having said that, I do not for a single second buy Brie Larson as a combat pilot or soldier of any kind. Compare with Carol Danvers from, let's say, Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Hero (the excellent animated series that ran two seasons roughly around the time Hulk and Thor were being released.)
Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: Sir Slash on September 19, 2018, 05:46:17 PM
Fury: "I'm tired of these MF Aliens coming to this MF planet"!  :clap:
Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: JasonPratt on September 19, 2018, 06:54:16 PM
That'll be after he unashes. Deashes. Antiashes? Retashes?!

(I actually do sort of expect him to say "--ucker!" Because he was saying that when he died. So, it would be funny. By which I mean cringy. ha ha.... ha.)
Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: Sir Slash on September 19, 2018, 09:06:32 PM
Has there ever been a Jackson movie where he didn't say "--ucker"? It's like Arnold and 'chopper'.
Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: Tpek on September 20, 2018, 06:08:23 AM
The number 1 way of showing the movie takes place in the past: Blockbuster video store :P

I wonder if we'll get to see how Fury lost his eye, or how he lost his hair.
Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: JasonPratt on September 20, 2018, 06:26:25 AM
^^ Only if the Winter Soldier is in it? I can't recall which canon it is, where Barnes is how Fury lost the eye. (I might be mixing things up with Av:EMH.)
Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: Sir Slash on September 20, 2018, 10:07:23 AM
That would be cool. Would it be funny if Thor's new eye turned out to be Fury's old one.  :2funny:
Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: JasonPratt on September 20, 2018, 10:24:10 AM
While I remain sort of hopeful for the movie overall, either Larson has been horribly miscast or for no known reason they aren't showing us any of her good acting. Going back to watch the trailer a few more times makes me nervous. For God's sake, the official thumbnail chosen by Marvel for the trailer, is her bored, sullen stare in a jet fighter.

I understand what's being aimed for in the occasional flashback parallelism, too -- but it ends up backfiring for me. "They told me I couldn't ride gocarts with other boys and girls in the 80s!" ...um, why? "They told me I couldn't play baseball without falling down." Well, at least you picked yourself up and got better at it. Or I assume you got better...? "They told me I couldn't swing across those ropes with my obviously weak body strength." Which is why you fell. But you clearly didn't do enough pushups to get better at it, so I'm going to assume special effects were involved or else you whined enough to lower the standards. "They told me I couldn't fly a jet while stoned out on prozac." But you showed them!

That latter one would mimic a real accomplishment (I guess), except that she doesn't look remotely competent or even interested in flying a jet into space.


On the other hand, the poster inside the jet hanger shows the rump of her freaky tentacle-hentai alien-thing cat. So, I can't complain that the writers don't love the character and aren't trying to work hard at giving her and her longtime fans a proper film treatment!

I keep thinking: we could have had Katee Sackhoff. What, was she too old? APPARENTLY THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE AN OLDER CAROL DANVERS!!
Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: Tpek on September 21, 2018, 04:08:54 AM
^^ Only if the Winter Soldier is in it? I can't recall which canon it is, where Barnes is how Fury lost the eye. (I might be mixing things up with Av:EMH.)

I was talking about the MCU Fury.

In the comics, I remember he lost it sometimes in the 60's.
When he (originally?) appeared in the Fantastic Four comics he still had both eyes, and was also seen having them both in the series about him and the Howling Commandos in WWII.

Then again, retcons are so very common in Marvel that it doesn't really matter.
Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: JasonPratt on September 21, 2018, 10:13:00 AM
^^ Only if the Winter Soldier is in it? I can't recall which canon it is, where Barnes is how Fury lost the eye. (I might be mixing things up with Av:EMH.)

I was talking about the MCU Fury.

Me, too. I can't recall if MCU Fury lost his eye to Barnes, or if that was the EMH Fury. I do recall that the MCU Fury said "the last time I trusted someone, I lost an eye".
Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: Tpek on September 21, 2018, 11:49:46 AM
^^ Only if the Winter Soldier is in it? I can't recall which canon it is, where Barnes is how Fury lost the eye. (I might be mixing things up with Av:EMH.)

I was talking about the MCU Fury.

Me, too. I can't recall if MCU Fury lost his eye to Barnes, or if that was the EMH Fury. I do recall that the MCU Fury said "the last time I trusted someone, I lost an eye".

I doubt it's Bucky then.
In the MCU he disappeared at the end of Captain America 1 and was not seen again (only talked about later) until Captain America 2.

Considering in the Captain Marvel movie he has both eyes, hints that either in this movie or the potential sequel (which might also be set in the past) we will see how he lost it.
Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: JasonPratt on September 22, 2018, 10:21:45 AM
I doubt it's Bucky then.
In the MCU he disappeared at the end of Captain America 1 and was not seen again (only talked about later) until Captain America 2.

Well, not seen again exactly, but he did interact with surviving characters (not just dead ones like Stark's parents). Tasha has a scar from where Bucky assassinated someone she was trying to protect by shooting through her. And she knew the Winter Soldier was doing it.

I could just be less lazy and see if a fan wiki mentions the MCU missing eye...

...eh, no details yet, just someone he trusted. Which currently suggests Skrull involvement. I must be thinking of Fury from Earth's Mightiest Heroes.
Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: SirAndrewD on September 22, 2018, 02:24:02 PM
Miscast or not I don't mind the prospect of looking at Brie Larson in a super hero outfit for two hours.
Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: Centurion40 on September 26, 2018, 08:01:35 AM
I enjoyed the Captain Marvel comics from the 70's.  Captain Marvel and the Green Lantern were my faves.  Therefore, I fear for this film.  I'm expecting a flop, like the Green Lantern film.
Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: Sir Slash on September 26, 2018, 08:40:28 AM
Did you say Green Lantern was a 'flop' or 'fop' Centurion?  :-"   Sorry, I know, I know. Go to the corner and stay there.
Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: JasonPratt on September 26, 2018, 10:31:41 AM
Even if Brie is as dull in the film as she looks in the trailers, I have some hope in the handling of the material. And she seems to wake up when around better actors.
Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: Sir Slash on September 26, 2018, 10:42:46 AM
I volunteer to handle her material! Really, any time.... any day, night or holiday. To make the film better of course. What were you thinking?  :dreamer:
Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: JasonPratt on September 26, 2018, 11:11:29 AM
Yeaaahhhh, uh, cute girls who are dead inside don't always age well....



(I had to find some excuse to play this somewhere.... I laughed until I hurt.)

"Back in the 70s, I got in this little scrape. See, I was dancing -- for the Bucs! -- [or maybe for the bucks] and all these Persian men offered me punch... and I was like, what are you doing, this is crazy, they're so nice! And so off we go. And then we got to the Peruvian border, and..."
Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: Centurion40 on September 28, 2018, 04:39:54 PM
Did you say Green Lantern was a 'flop' or 'fop' Centurion?  :-"   Sorry, I know, I know. Go to the corner and stay there.

Yeah, sorry... typo. I meant to say a painful effing abomination piece of crap. But my kid liked it. Hes an idiot.
Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: Dammit Carl! on September 28, 2018, 06:17:28 PM
I've said elsewhere that Marvel kinda missed the mark here.

Give me a female Marvel, but make it Ms. Marvel (Kamala Khan) over Cpt. Marvel (C. Danvers).

Why: Ms. Marvel stories are similar to Spider Man stories in that you have a more "everyman," hero that is relatable.

PC bullshit aside, I think that would have been a better choice story-wise for a lynchpin MCU movie to make.
Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: JasonPratt on September 28, 2018, 06:18:50 PM
Did you say Green Lantern was a 'flop' or 'fop' Centurion?  :-"   Sorry, I know, I know. Go to the corner and stay there.

Yeah, sorry... typo. I meant to say a painful effing abomination piece of crap. But my kid liked it. Hes an idiot.

The videogame sequel is quite good, tho! -- enough so that you can practically ignore the film.
Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: SirAndrewD on September 28, 2018, 06:19:58 PM
I volunteer to handle her material! Really, any time.... any day, night or holiday. To make the film better of course. What were you thinking?  :dreamer:

You ruffian! 

Same here of course.    :smitten:
Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: JasonPratt on September 28, 2018, 06:23:53 PM
I've said elsewhere that Marvel kinda missed the mark here.

Give me a female Marvel, but make it Ms. Marvel (Kamala Khan) over Cpt. Marvel (C. Danvers).

I have very little doubt they're getting to Kamala eventually. But the writers need to bring in a big gun to punch Thanos with, and that isn't KK. Plus Danvers' plot naturally introduces (or reveals) the Skrull plotline, which is where they want to go next in the overarching plot. So there are good reasons to go with the Danvers character. And she's a good character, too, when written (and acted) competently.
Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: JasonPratt on February 20, 2019, 02:55:23 PM
Parody trailer -- I laughed so hard I had to share.

Warning: don't be drinking or eating something when you get to the parody of the cat-petting scene.

Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: Tpek on February 21, 2019, 04:03:25 AM
LoL, this looks more entertaining than the real movie.
Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: acctingman on February 21, 2019, 07:54:50 AM
I haven't seen Bree Larson in anything. She's cute, not hot, but very cute. Carol Danvers is a pretty tough cookie. Can Bree pull this off? (to anyone who has seen her act)

Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: JasonPratt on February 21, 2019, 04:02:13 PM
We've seen her trying to act tough in the trailers so far and... um....


...yeah, in the comics (up until recently for reasons having to do with writing skill), she has been a well-respected cheerful but military tough kind of character (keeping in mind her characterization has been ALL OVER THE PLACE for decades. But more consistent for the past decade.)

According to a wide swath of internet responses, Larson either fails at acting tough and awesome due to some kind of inability, or she wildly succeeds at acting tough and awesome because she's a woman.  ::) (This, incidentally, is also Larson's own opinion of her performance.)

The marketing for this film has been an amazing car crash into a dumpster fire. It'll still make a billion dollars, because duh.

Anyway, that partly explains this spoof trailer some more: they went with "her idea of acting tough is to be a sociopathic self-centered teen."

I'm not gonna lie, I'm gonna have to restrain yelling out "PUNCH THE CAT, FURY, IN HIS LITTLE CAT FACE!" when I get to that scene in the theater. If other people do, I'll completely lose the next few minutes of plot from trying to survive laughing.
Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: acctingman on February 21, 2019, 04:16:35 PM
I'm going to wait on this one. I just can't see this film being even close to the top tier Marvel movies.
Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: Sir Slash on February 21, 2019, 08:51:24 PM
I'm beginning to have doubts about it too. But that probably won't stop me from pluncking down my dough when it hits.
Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: JasonPratt on February 21, 2019, 09:14:39 PM
I've enjoyed them all so far, and there's a pretty good chance Bro and I will be taking the nieces.
Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: JasonPratt on March 06, 2019, 03:02:34 PM
Review embargo is lifted. RT "top critics" currently stand a bare fraction over 60% -- practically the absolute minimum enough to be rated as Fresh.

Jeremy Jahns: CM is "the Star Trek Insurrection of the MCU". :o (Qualification, he doesn't hate that film, just finds it meh.)

Stuckman: similarly meh.






The reviews when they're talking about the actual film, tend to be disappointing. I hope it's better than that; I'm on record as liking all the MCU films, even the Hulk and Iron Man 2 and both earlier Thor films (1 and 2). The only one I'm truly meh about is Black Panther, where I kept cringing through a very meh film experience with an aggressively stupid plot structure (i.e. dozens of dumb things must keep happening all the time, in lieu of entertainment: an experience I loathed in Dark Knight Rises and Godzilla 14, and the more recent Bond films, too.) At least that film is skippable.

All things considered this doesn't bode well when/if I get to see it this weekend, but with Niecemus Prime's birthday party Sunday and the likelihood she and some friends may see it Friday or Saturday first (without me!  :'( ), I hope to get to it Saturday anyway.
Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: Sir Slash on March 06, 2019, 05:32:04 PM
The first Marvel movie in years I'm not on fire to see Day 1. Hope I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: acctingman on March 11, 2019, 12:14:19 PM
Did anyone like this?

For me, it's bottom 25% of the Marvel movies.
Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: JasonPratt on March 11, 2019, 04:20:06 PM
Stormy weather kept me from traveling to see it Saturday; but loosely planning Thursday or Friday (with Dad and Bro -- nieces are off to the Gulf Coast, but we want to scout films before they see them anyway.)
Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: JasonPratt on March 18, 2019, 08:50:21 AM
Finally saw it Saturday afternoon with Dad and Bro. It was.... aggressively mediocre? Sometimes verging into insultingly mediocre.

Remember in Winter Soldier when Fury stated grimly, "Last time I trusted someone... I lost an eye"? My mind boggled and then shut down in protest when the circumstances are revealed. He loses his eye as a joke. I genuinely thought at first, no, no that isn't possible, they're just being funny in a tease, like with the stitch-crimp over his eye for most of the movie (thanks to a cut). But nope. Final scenes, he has totally lost the eye.

I'll put the spoilers here, for those who don't know already. I had heard beforehand how it happened, but I was hoping people were just misunderstanding the circumstances. Nope!

: show
Goose the cat scratches it out, thanks to Fury acting too cute with him. There is no betrayal, Fury is already fully well aware that Goose is a dangerous alien monster who has been faithful to the team -- for no clearly established reason by the way -- throughout the whole film. (Presumably Goose was Mar-vell's pet, and hung around the secret base after Mar-vell's death six years prior.) It is purely a case of a joke based on cats losing patience with humans being cute to them.


I could rant about every tiresome eyerolling cringey thing in this film, but there's no need: every negative review you've read probably has a significant amount of truth in it, in this case. You can completely skip this film before watching Endgame. Dad thought it was "okay", Bro and I were actively amazed at how awful it often was.

Was there anything I liked? Some of the fx were competent. (Some of them. Agent Coulsen's character seems to have been added in, late into production, and the actor's de-aging tech was so undercooked that all three of us often thought we were looking at a different character sometimes on screen. I assume this will be fixed before the film goes to video.) The amazing satire of Hillary Clinton should be memeworthy, although I'd bet a Coke it was unintentional since Trump was the obvious target, so I don't know if I can credit the film exactly for being truly clever and subversive. I do have nothing but admiration for Larson's insistence on doing her own stunts and fights as much as possible, although in the film it's sometimes hard to tell whether a stunt double isn't being used after all. Um.... it's nice to see Coulsen briefly, even if his interactions with the film are minimal. Jackson is fun to watch even though he's playing what might as well be a completely different character. Larson's acting is supposed to reflect the mind-screwed condition of the character, so I don't hate it as much as some people do, although the goal does seem to be outside her skill range currently. (Okay, not really a thing I liked, but I'm willing to excuse it within context.) ...uh. The Skrull leader does a great job, despite the Skrulls themselves being totally revised to be innocent victims of genocide. But I don't mind that change, since it doesn't actually change anything in the MCU per se (except that the filmmakers milk the change for their agenda points).

...I liked Goose the cat in almost every one of his scenes? (Except one.  ::) )

.......the film makes Black Panther look a lot better by comparison?  :-\
Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: JudgeDredd on March 18, 2019, 09:53:02 AM
I liked it  :-"

Saw it for a second time and enjoyed it more than the first time. Certainly not MCUs best movie, but it went up from a 6.5 to a 7.5 on second viewing. We'll be going to see it again.

I don't agree with your take on the eye thing. Whilst not what I was expecting, there was trust there.

I thought Larson played the part very well. Loved her little facial goings on. Jokes were mostly on form and at the right times.

I would agree there was some ropey CGI - very unusual for an MCU flick.

There was some political stuff in there, but I go to be entertained not watch a party political broadcast so I can look past them most of the time. For example (of me looking past them) I don't recall anything "relating" to Trump or Clinton. I did see the Skrull as victims/refugees and linked it to Syria and...but then I went Nope and carried on watching. Nothing new in that.
Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: DoctorQuest on March 18, 2019, 10:15:18 AM
I'm with JD. If I can lose track of time watching a movie that is a good thing and that's what happened when I saw CM.

I agree that the CGI "de-aging" of Coulsen was a little wonky. I can live with that.

Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: Sir Slash on March 18, 2019, 10:51:53 AM
I wonder if they could, 'de-age' me? I'd take wonky in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: JasonPratt on March 18, 2019, 01:16:24 PM
I don't agree with your take on the eye thing. Whilst not what I was expecting, there was trust there.

Not the kind of betrayal of trust that was implied by what was said in Winter Soldier. Also, obviously trust remained afterward -- not only with the character that took his eye, but with shapeshifting aliens and everyone else on the team. So there was no betrayal involved at all, and the loss was treated very calmly afterward like an inconvenience. There was no harsh lesson that made him paranoid and suspicious afterward. It was more like, ah, my bad, I was fooling around with the cute little pussy too much and should have been more respectful, so I deserve it, no big deal if I got my eye scratched out, we're good now...

....wait, did I just decode the 'message' of this joke?!? Was this a visual pun the whole time!???

 #:-) :hide:
Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: Staggerwing on March 18, 2019, 02:53:15 PM
I just saw it this afternoon. I had taken time off for a doctor's appointment that got cancelled so I thought, 'why not? I don't feel like working anyway.'

The movie wasn't bad, entertaining enough if a little long in the middle. It would have been better if it had been made a few years ago and not suffered comparisons to the more recent MCU movies such as the last two Avengers flicks as well as Thor:Ragnarok, Black Panther, and the two GOTG films. Someone online made the argument that CM should actually be the first movie in the MCU's recommended watching list, not just for the timeline (90's) but also for the progression of movies in their complexity and content.

AFA the cat- likable enough though it's big 'reveal' (not the eye, you know what I mean...) seemed more appropriate to Galaxy Quest or an episode of the Orville than an MCU flick.

All in all, still worth watching without a doubt, though seeing it at home on a big TV with a beer or two might have been better. I should have saved the cinema experience for A:Endgame. 
Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: JasonPratt on March 18, 2019, 03:33:46 PM
The other thing about the cat I actually like, because it's a cute piece of canon they managed to keep for the story! (Sort of.)

I'm a cat guy anyway, so not gonna lie, the cat (per se) was by far my favorite thing about the film, but I'm biased.  :bd:

Talos was probably my second favorite thing. Which is a little weird because they borrowed his name and literally nothing else (other than being a Skrull) from a one-shot Skrull character, also written pretty well, created by Peter David for his epic canon-redefining run on the Incredible Hulk, appearing just after the wedding of Rick Jones (an old sidekick of the original Captain Marvel, as well as the Hulk and even Captain America) and Las Vegas showgirl Marlo.

To be honest, I had forgotten exactly where I had heard of Talos the Skrull before, and had to look it up. The wedding was rather more important storywise, but PD did a good job writing a Skrull warrior who couldn't shapeshift but who had nevertheless earned a great reputation in the Skrull Empire as a crazy-ass warrior despite his handicap. After being captured and broken by the Kree, he wanted to earn a noble death for the Empire by challenging the Hulk himself -- back during his days as the Unified Hulk, no less, when he was at arguably his most fully dangerous fighting capability! Coincidentally the Unified Hulk, aka Professor Hulk, aka Doc Green, will apparently featured heavily in the Endgame film. (The Hulk refused to be goaded into a murderous rage and tried to talk him down despite Talos' insults, so that Banner could try to restart his marriage with his ex-wife Betty Ross.)

He's had a very modest career as a more-or-less heroic Skrull on occasion since then, crossing paths with Gamora, Ronan the Accuser, and the Nova Corps (sort of), to give some MCU references. He didn't have anything to do with the Secret Invasion, though he was popular enough among his fellow Skrulls (despite his disability) that they always hoped he would join the fight. (The Skrulll Queen refused to deploy him.) He also fought Howard the Duck in a (very lame) attempt to enslave the Earth, which seems to be the last time he has appeared in comics. All I knew him from was the suicide-by-Hulk attempt (the other things I found out when trying to remember who he was.)
Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: JasonPratt on March 20, 2019, 02:33:59 PM
If you're meandering around the net and see various videos badmouthing the film's sales performance...?

Well, some things could be badmouthed, but sales performance failures area myth. That's just wishful thinking by some people wishing the film would fail.

Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: airboy on April 02, 2019, 07:55:00 PM
We go to movies on cheapo Tuesday.  My wife was finally in town on a Tuesday so we saw Captain Marvel this afternoon.  It was meh.

Much better than:
Any of the Hulk Movies
Iron Man 2 or 3
First 2 Thor Movies

and worse than almost all other Marvel movies controlled by this studio.  Captain Marvel herself was boring.  I did not feel much of a connection with her one way or another.
I've never liked Jude Law in anything - and this movie did not change that.  The Kree-Scrull conflict in this movie was boring.

I did appreciate the Stan Lee tribute at the start of the film.  I liked the music (We saw three of the bands play songs used in the movie when they were supporting the album with that song).  A de-aged Nick Fury looked weird in places. 

I liked Aquaman a lot better than Captain Marvel.  I would give this a "C" and would not have been upset seeing it at home instead of the theater.
Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: airboy on April 02, 2019, 08:02:28 PM
If you're meandering around the net and see various videos badmouthing the film's sales performance...?

Well, some things could be badmouthed, but sales performance failures area myth. That's just wishful thinking by some people wishing the film would fail.



I disagree with one point on his box office analysis.  He is using dollar numbers for films released a decade or more apart.  You must adjust the dollar box for inflation, or at least look at number of tickets sold, to do any sort of rational analysis of box office take.  Captain Marvel was a money maker - but not as much as some of the other Marvel Movies when you adjust the box office for inflation.
Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: Sir Slash on April 02, 2019, 09:20:24 PM
I saw it Saturday and thought it was good but not great. It had a few genuine great moments but overall fell short of most of the other films. I liked the CGI Colson and Fury as well as Larson as the Captain. Didn't care for the whole, 'girls can do anything boys can do better' theme or the over-powered, Supergirl knock-off effect. I'd go 6 outta 10. My 2 cents.
Title: Re: Let the Captain Marvel trailers commence!
Post by: JasonPratt on April 02, 2019, 09:40:47 PM
I've been thinking that Larson's problem, is that she doesn't know yet how to act like any believable type of soldier. Possibly that's a direction and writing problem, too. The story structure of her character being constantly held back on emotions (since she could throw off her shackles with more emotion or something), doesn't help in some ways.

If the film's story structure presented her as mentally damaged from her ordeals, that would go some distance in accounting for her behavior. But having actual character flaws (whether internal or externally imposed) to deal with, seems to have been beyond the ability or perhaps the mandate of the writing and directing.

This character can be acted well. Carol Danver's great in the second season of the animated Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes series, and some clips from the subsequent animated series (intended to conform more to the MCU 'look) seem competently acted. Of course, voice acting is easier as well as more difficult than live-action film acting, so the comparison can't be totally valid. But still. I have no doubt that, even with any studio mandates shackling how she should be marketed and portrayed, Katee Sackhof would have blasted it. But then, she has extensive experience acting as a combat pilot.

By contrast, Larson acts better as the anti-military photographer in Kong: Skull Island (with some other MCU alumni including Sam Jackson.) She's good at being that kind of 'rogue'. Not so much as a devoted soldier (acting rogue or otherwise. Yeah, Fury, I know a rogue soldier when I see one, too -- and when I don't.  ::) )