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Title: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: undercovergeek on December 12, 2017, 12:11:17 PM
I have to hold my hands up and hope to God there is only me like this - about every 3 years i buy the GW painting guide, some models, a load of paint an army book and start painting a vanilla regiment from the Warhammer game - so far, Dwarfs, Undead and Wood Elves - i paint probably 75% of the unit, 15 figures out of 20, stop, get a reality check, scoop it all up and throw it in the bin - i dont game, i just like the models and the painting but would probably game if i didnt have to put up with the standard GW gamer and so i think the incentive and interest wears off once i realise these models however awesome theyll look are never going to see a table top and a handful of dice

Dont get me wrong, doesnt have to be GW and if there were some other models out there that took my fancy id be right there, and with a more adult crowd and not the 'i saw my teacher today, and i was like, i so wish i could stab him with the dagger of doom, with no armour saves, and then cast him to hell with the cloak of vengeful asshole blah blah blah'

BUT - i came across a guy on youtube who paints only with washes and inks, the figures look great and take about 15 minutes to do instead of my standard 2 hours each, no matter what the guides say. The big barrier to cross everytime is the cost but with just inks its not nearly as painful

and the Skaven Stormvermin look awesome

Sob
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: Barthheart on December 12, 2017, 12:39:07 PM
YouTube link?

 :D

 :P
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: undercovergeek on December 12, 2017, 12:52:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs9_9Nf4hXI

this is his intro video but you can see on the sidebar more links to individual figures and other units
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: Barthheart on December 12, 2017, 01:18:34 PM
Thanks.... might be just what I need to get back to painting the 140 odd figures from MERCS:Recon I KS'd two years ago....  :buck2:
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: undercovergeek on December 12, 2017, 01:26:51 PM
theres nothing professional about the set up at all, its him, his front room and a web cam by the looks of it - hardly anything is filmed in focus but atthe end of each session there are stills taken with a proper camera and you can see the results

basically prime in white, start light and work to dark using 2 - 3 inks - all the highlighting and shadow work is done by the inks so those cool White Dwarf shots with all the highlighting done by the studio that far surpasses anything one could hope to create is done for you
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: GDS_Starfury on December 12, 2017, 03:54:24 PM
I feel safer with Barth painting minis then with him creating black holes and colliding atoms and shit.
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: bbmike on December 12, 2017, 04:14:06 PM
I already bought paint. I'm not going to buy washes and ink.  :cowboy:
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: undercovergeek on December 16, 2017, 08:20:42 AM
Holy crap - what a can of worms I've opened here!

Spent a good 2 hours watching videos for painting, picked my WHFB regiment to start painting, a list of inks - only to find out WHFB isn't supported anymore - forgot all about Age of Sigmar

But it's just for the joy of painting right? Not really

I really wanted to paint and then join a club locally and game with my miniature works of art......

So I joined a club and will be going next Tuesday for a look round, it's their Christmas party but everyone's welcome and I'll get to see some of the games on display. Chatting on FB It would appear the two big games are bolt action and 40k and then x wing, loads and loads of other scary stuff going back to romans and black powder, some leagues and some competitions. Then some guy said try malifaux when you come, a kind of necromunda but not GW, and then there's necromunda, and blood bowl, and frost grave!!!!!

So whilst my mind is full of army lists and gang lists and squad lists I'm going to start with a small British para squad for bolt action and will be hitting the shopping cart later - wish me luck
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: Bison on December 16, 2017, 08:25:01 AM
 
I already bought paint. I'm not going to buy washes and ink.  :cowboy:

You will.   Washes are a godsend to minis painters.
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: bbmike on December 16, 2017, 10:05:08 AM
Make Wash Flow Evenly to Avoid Rings

The surface tension of the diluted paint can cause diluted paint washes to dry unevenly, leaving rings of paint or splotchiness. It's like when you wash and wax your car. Water beads into droplets. As it dries, if there is any dirt in the water, it leaves small rings when it dries. Diluted paint acts the same way. To break up the surface tension, simply add a drop or two of dish soap into your brush washing container and use this to water down your paint used for washes.


 ^-^
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: Bison on December 16, 2017, 10:26:24 AM
I've done home brew washes but the consistency of a manufactored wash is just better.
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: bbmike on December 16, 2017, 10:39:11 AM
You are not helping me save money.  :knuppel2:
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: Bison on December 16, 2017, 10:52:35 AM
The best washes are Games workshop imho.  Vallejo are decent but can suffer from drying rings at times.
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: Nefaro on December 17, 2017, 07:44:35 PM
I already bought paint. I'm not going to buy washes and ink.  :cowboy:

You will.   Washes are a godsend to minis painters.

Yup.

Hell, if he wanted to use the All Ink & Wash method, he could still use his regular paints and just get a bottle of medium/thinner to mix with his regular paints and thin them way down to the same levels.

I picked up a bottle of the same company's Medium to essentially turn any of mine into an ink when needed.  :)
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: GDS_Starfury on December 17, 2017, 11:02:59 PM
plebs
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: undercovergeek on December 31, 2017, 07:16:29 AM
Brushes - check

£50s worth of paints and washes and basing stuff - check

Box of paratroopers, modelling knife and glue - check

Ive started with this chap - hes been glued, ive done the base and hes primed in uniform grey - im doing one for now to completion just to get methods right and get some pratice in, then ill go with 3 or 4 at a time

(https://i.imgur.com/9CdZfEZ.jpg?1)

and this is our man a couple of hours later - ive still to do the base as i need some grass and different colours - theyre on order

(https://i.imgur.com/JcP86Wm.jpg?1)

(https://i.imgur.com/iwVxLRB.jpg?1)



Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: Nefaro on December 31, 2017, 08:58:05 AM
Awesome, UCG!  :bd:
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: Barthheart on December 31, 2017, 10:02:56 AM
Nice job Geek.  :bd:

A couple of questions for you... well anyone really...

1 Do you always fully assemble the model troops before painting? Are you not concerned with the slightly covered hard to paint but always seem to be easy to see unpainted spots?

2 Do you paint for good looks up close or only at the 2 foot gaming range?

For me, my OCD rarely lets me fully assemble the little guys because I can't paint the covered spots. But then my laziness says just build the damn things so I can play with them.....
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: undercovergeek on December 31, 2017, 10:09:23 AM
just posted the same question on my gaming groups FB page, because ive built 7 of these guys and just realised theres parts ill never reach with a brush - i know people who assemble and paint like i just did, paint and then assemble and im also seeing a lot of love for painting on the sprue

looks wise im OCD for getting it right at close range but also dont have the skills for that yet - these are 28mm minis and ive seen some with white eyes and pupils, whilst i could do that ive also played the game and realise without picking a mini up and gazing at it lovingly youd never know - so whilst it scratches at my OCD i left this guy with a wash across his face
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: undercovergeek on January 06, 2018, 10:05:10 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/xTD9aDE.jpg?1)

number 2 because youre not really painting airborne until someone has a red beret on

bit of base repair - these are all to be painted at the end

platoon NCO next
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: Staggerwing on January 06, 2018, 01:30:23 PM
Nice! You can almost hear him yelling 'Whoa Mohammed'!
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: GDS_Starfury on January 07, 2018, 09:12:26 PM
its easiest to just cover the whole figure in an overall wash or color and then get into the detail painting.
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: JudgeDredd on January 09, 2018, 11:56:50 PM
Nice job UCG.

I have a wee question for you...and others who use these mini's. I find them an odd choice. They kind of look like dwarfs. Why do you - or anyone here using minis (nevermore) use these minis instead of the other ones. I think I'm thinking of Airfix? I can't recall - my dad used to come home from work now and again and bring us a box of soldiers each.

Found them - these ones

http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.aspx?id=29

My brother and I used to spend hours painting these
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: undercovergeek on January 10, 2018, 12:44:20 AM
Re being dwarves that maybe the perspective on my shots or that these 2 I've done are running forward so in effect they're not standing up straight - I'll post the nco later who is

Nothing wrong at all with those minis I think I've seen them in use at the club but they look no better or worse than the warlord ones plus you get to customise the sprue ones
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: JudgeDredd on January 10, 2018, 02:11:37 AM
Re being dwarves that maybe the perspective on my shots or that these 2 I've done are running forward so in effect they're not standing up straight - I'll post the nco later who is

Nothing wrong at all with those minis I think I've seen them in use at the club but they look no better or worse than the warlord ones plus you get to customise the sprue ones
No. I must admit, after having found the link and the video, my perspective of how good they are changed. Rose tinted glasses I think.

Still...to recapture my youth, I might buy the German pack and get painting. Good thread  O0
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: BanzaiCat on January 10, 2018, 04:49:53 AM
I'm glad you said that, JD...I was thinking the exact same thing from that first pic on, that they looked a bit stunted in the leg department. ;D
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: undercovergeek on January 10, 2018, 08:22:47 AM
Couple things - these 2 are running forward and they're wearing the denison smock which comes to mid thigh - let me take some new shots
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: undercovergeek on January 10, 2018, 08:33:31 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/u55G23w.jpg?1)

that better?
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: JudgeDredd on January 10, 2018, 08:52:00 AM
Not really. And I mean from a scale perspective. They do look dwarven to me. What scale are they?

It's not just these. I see them in nevermore's post and I've seen them used by someone here with a WWII boardgame.

They are excellently detailed (and very well painted) - the moustache is especially realistic - especially for the British Army.

Don't worry about me. I was just wondering why people seemed to use these instead of other kinds of miniatures. Maybe there's more of these in terms of posture. Also the airfix ones do have (or did have) considerable tidying up required. And maybe this scale fits.

I imagine these are quite expensive? Also you get the pleasure (I gather) to put them together.
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: BanzaiCat on January 10, 2018, 09:22:46 AM
Not really. And I mean from a scale perspective. They do look dwarven to me. What scale are they?

+1

Nothing against your painting skills, UCG - those painted minis look great and are damn better than anything I can do.

It's just their legs look a tad stunted, even accounting for leaning forward at a run. That stance is awkward as if they were leaning that far forward, they'd be falling over owing to the 60 pounds of gear they're carrying.
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: JudgeDredd on January 10, 2018, 09:32:17 AM
Where do you get them from UCG? Are they expensive? I saw a site today that had similar for considerable amounts of coinage.
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: undercovergeek on January 10, 2018, 09:34:31 AM
Lol No worries - I think the stance is supposed to represent the unit caught mid sprint or mid assault - there's 6 lower bodies on each sprue - 3 static and 3 kinetic

JD - they're 28mm there's a company called artisan, warlord games themselves and your airfix kit that I've seen used - in comparison I think 40k and warhammer is 35mm

I bought a starter box of 5 sprues that will provide 30 guys so about enough for a 500 point army - it was 26 pounds but I've seen them on eBay at about a tenner and yes you get the body section, polish or British heads with berets and the same again with helmets and then all kinds of arms and errrr arms from stens to brens and rifles and then piles of extras like backpacks, pouches, piats and so on
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: Barthheart on January 10, 2018, 09:37:13 AM
...
I bought a starter box of 5 sprues that will provide 30 guys so about enough for a 500 point army - it was 26 pounds but I've seen them on eBay at about a tenner and yes you get the body section, polish or British heads with berets and the same again with helmets and then all kinds of arms and errrr arms from stens to brens and rifles and then piles of extras like backpacks, pouches, piats and so on

This sounds like a good amount of kit. Care to post a pic of some sprues?  :dreamer:
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: undercovergeek on January 10, 2018, 09:38:02 AM
Where do you get them from UCG? Are they expensive? I saw a site today that had similar for considerable amounts of coinage.

Warlord games site or bricks and mortar - I went to a place in brum for the models called waylands forge but actually drove to the warlord hq in Nottingham to get the paints

There's a massive Pegasus bridge pack for about 200 pounds right down to just the kit I got for 26

Of course that's just paras, the us marines look great as do the SS but apparently you can get grief for fielding them as I found out yesterday
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: undercovergeek on January 10, 2018, 09:38:32 AM
...
I bought a starter box of 5 sprues that will provide 30 guys so about enough for a 500 point army - it was 26 pounds but I've seen them on eBay at about a tenner and yes you get the body section, polish or British heads with berets and the same again with helmets and then all kinds of arms and errrr arms from stens to brens and rifles and then piles of extras like backpacks, pouches, piats and so on

This sounds like a good amount of kit. Care to post a pic of some sprues?  :dreamer:

Sure give me 5 mins
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: JudgeDredd on January 10, 2018, 09:47:29 AM
Where do you get them from UCG? Are they expensive? I saw a site today that had similar for considerable amounts of coinage.

Warlord games site or bricks and mortar - I went to a place in brum for the models called waylands forge but actually drove to the warlord hq in Nottingham to get the paints

There's a massive Pegasus bridge pack for about 200 pounds right down to just the kit I got for 26

Of course that's just paras, the us marines look great as do the SS but apparently you can get grief for fielding them as I found out yesterday
So you do use them for gaming? What kind of grief? Just for fielding them at all or because they're not "in the scenario time frame" that you're playing?
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: undercovergeek on January 10, 2018, 09:49:52 AM
...
I bought a starter box of 5 sprues that will provide 30 guys so about enough for a 500 point army - it was 26 pounds but I've seen them on eBay at about a tenner and yes you get the body section, polish or British heads with berets and the same again with helmets and then all kinds of arms and errrr arms from stens to brens and rifles and then piles of extras like backpacks, pouches, piats and so on

This sounds like a good amount of kit. Care to post a pic of some sprues?  :dreamer:

You get 5 of these, 30 bases, and a little transfer sheet with rank and the airborne insignia on for the shoulders

if you need me to zoom in or focus a bit more just let me know

(https://i.imgur.com/xpHTpta.jpg?1)
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: undercovergeek on January 10, 2018, 09:53:30 AM
Where do you get them from UCG? Are they expensive? I saw a site today that had similar for considerable amounts of coinage.

Warlord games site or bricks and mortar - I went to a place in brum for the models called waylands forge but actually drove to the warlord hq in Nottingham to get the paints

There's a massive Pegasus bridge pack for about 200 pounds right down to just the kit I got for 26

Of course that's just paras, the us marines look great as do the SS but apparently you can get grief for fielding them as I found out yesterday
So you do use them for gaming? What kind of grief? Just for fielding them at all or because they're not "in the scenario time frame" that you're playing?

just joined a gaming club JD and they said dont dive in, use their troops and play the game, if you like it then just get a 500 point force and bring them along - they run what they call an escalation league so in Feb therell be 500 point v 500 point games then in June 750 v 750 and in October 1000 v 1000 so you can build your army, see where your play style lies and add or change to your army and slowly build it up

As with most WW2 games there are people who baulk at SS on the game table, ive had people refuse to play a CMBN PBEM game with me before now because i picked SS as the army
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: Barthheart on January 10, 2018, 09:54:28 AM
Thanks for the pic!  O0

I think that's your reason right there for getting these instead of the AirFix figures. Lots of config possibilities.

Keep up the good work UCG. I really like the look of your figs so far.  :clap:
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: JudgeDredd on January 10, 2018, 09:56:57 AM
How do you think they'd be if you turned up without them painted? Are they that "geeky" (for want of a better word) about it?

Is there much flash on them (seem pretty clean from the pick)

Also - one last question and I'll let you go - how do you know what makes up a 500 point army? I presume there's a sheet about giving costs to various types of soldiers, teams, NCO's and Officers?
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: undercovergeek on January 10, 2018, 10:10:57 AM
No, unpainted would be fine, but between the guys they have us, marines, uk, airborne, french, italian, japanese, chinese, german, ss, hungarian, romanian, russian - the list goes on and will happily lend you the minis

hardly any flash at all, just the join at the sprue, i bought a modelling knife but have hardly used it

theres this handy site http://boltaction.easyarmy.com/ where someone has uploaded all the rule books for each army, you just choose from the OOB what youd like and it works it all out for you, with this and the guys around the club i dont think ill need to actually buy the book!

OOB builder

(https://i.imgur.com/yqmL6oh.jpg?2)

and then it makes a fancy list for you to print out and take or send to the GM for approval

(https://i.imgur.com/LF412cU.jpg)
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: bob48 on January 10, 2018, 10:11:14 AM
In the days when I used to play a lot of minis games, the universal rule was that unpainted figures were not allowed on the gaming table.
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: undercovergeek on January 10, 2018, 10:14:56 AM
along with no riding your donkey after 7pm, always bow to the romans as they pass, and never shovel out your poo when a centurions on guard!

good to see you you old fart
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: bob48 on January 10, 2018, 10:16:10 AM
...and no playing with un-clipped counters.........

:-)
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: JudgeDredd on January 10, 2018, 10:17:42 AM
 :DD

Thanks UGC - good info  O0
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: Barthheart on January 10, 2018, 10:30:57 AM
...and no playing with un-clipped counters.........

:-)

 >:(
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: bob48 on January 10, 2018, 11:19:15 AM
 :-"
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: undercovergeek on January 12, 2018, 12:41:20 PM
The brave men of 1st platoon so far - i dabbled with painting a tally under their base of how many battles theyve had and how many theyve survived but the kills are simply distributed amongst the group

(https://i.imgur.com/sSkas5G.jpg?1)

George

(https://i.imgur.com/KiSqMbq.jpg?1)

Harry

(https://i.imgur.com/v9OKLls.jpg?1)

John - The Sarge

(https://i.imgur.com/sfkxIZV.jpg?1)

Lofty

(https://i.imgur.com/mWvADR4.jpg?1)
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: Barthheart on January 12, 2018, 01:28:31 PM
 :clap:
 :notworthy:
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: undercovergeek on January 16, 2018, 03:53:20 PM
Tonight i wheeled out the boys for their first competitive match and my very first game of Bolt Action - against the club 'owner' and early beta developer of the game - arse!

As i only had 7 figures of my own Mike lent me 2 other squads of 7, the LT and his bodyguard, a sniper team, and an artillery observer

He was playing with Germans, some kind of Jaeger variant and was experimenting with squad sizes and weapons hence his unpainted masses

Most of the action would take place on my left of the board in a wooded area at the back of the cottage -

(https://i.imgur.com/gatCPEV.jpg)

Having called in his arty strike the observer becomes a single soldier armed with whatever your OOB states - here a sten gun - my 3 man MMG team is in the cottage, the 2 markers indicate ive lost 2 of the 3 crew but can still fire. The observer has moved up to cover the MMG team or to provide extra fire for the carnage in the woods in the background

(https://i.imgur.com/PMjuXo3.jpg)

Mike advances his 10 man squad - the grey guys - and thats 16 dice needing only 3s to hit my squad of 4 facing them - however, he's got a pin marker from the previous round where i hit his squad but failed to score any wounds (a regular feature of tonights game) - so before he can do anything he has to pass a morale test, he fails, snort. On a double 6, heh heh - this rare occurrence is called a FUBAR, Mikes squad has failed so spectacularly it has to roll on the FUBAR chart - he rolls a 1 - the worse result. In a panic of indecisiveness and bad management the squad turn to their left and start shooting their own guys, his other advancing squad in white and he kills 5 of this 10 man team, this in turn is 50% of this squads manpower, they also fail a morale test and go running off into the woods

(https://i.imgur.com/Op0gNFQ.jpg)

Heres the hero of the match - on the other side of the second stone wall is a sniper team thats just run out of a building i was about to assault - needing fours to hit and 5s to wound the guy pulls out his sten gun, you get 2 shots for an SMG, and rolls to hit and wound on both members of the enemy sniper team - first victory dice to the Brits

Thats Mike on dead German clean up duty

(https://i.imgur.com/SFf4dJ5.jpg)

Having lost the hero observer to close combat and the decimated MMG team in the cottage and an infantry squad in the woods, Mike is up 3 to 1 but hes running out of command dice - I have the LT, the sniper squad and half an infantry squad left to try and wipe out the last of his grey guys here, and have an uninjured squad on the right of the board ready to bear 13 dice on a 2 man MMG team

(https://i.imgur.com/IgGFZMf.jpg)

Both plans come off - 3 dice each, a draw on my first outing - ill take that

(https://i.imgur.com/TL2eMEO.jpg)

Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: bob48 on January 16, 2018, 04:04:08 PM
Looks good, 'geek. :bd:
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Post by: Staggerwing on January 16, 2018, 05:39:32 PM
Damn but that looks like fun.  O0
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: BanzaiCat on January 17, 2018, 08:09:52 AM
Love those pics. Especially the ones taken from the perspective of the minis.  O0
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: undercovergeek on January 17, 2018, 02:08:36 PM
Love those pics. Especially the ones taken from the perspective of the minis.  O0

Because the game rules are true line of sight you actually have to get your chin right in there to check visibility - I took pics whilst doing it
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: JudgeDredd on January 17, 2018, 03:16:48 PM
Very cool  :notworthy:

When moving, I don't see any hexes...how do you determine how far a unit can move?
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: undercovergeek on January 17, 2018, 03:55:58 PM
A unit can advance up to 6 inch and choose to fire with a minus 1 penalty

Or run 12 inch with no fire at the end

Or assault 12 inch into close combat and resolve the hand to hand
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: BanzaiCat on January 17, 2018, 05:11:24 PM
...so if they do not move, they get to fire with no penalty?
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: bbmike on January 17, 2018, 05:42:33 PM
Or the real question- what is the rule system?
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: Barthheart on January 17, 2018, 06:27:43 PM
Tonight i wheeled out the boys for their first competitive match and my very first game of Bolt Action - against the club 'owner' and early beta developer of the game - arse!
...

 :nerd:
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: undercovergeek on January 18, 2018, 12:21:32 AM
...so if they do not move, they get to fire with no penalty?

Exactly, although smgs don't suffer a move and fire penalty and throw 2 dice for damage
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: undercovergeek on January 22, 2018, 11:54:15 AM
1st Platoon - done

(https://i.imgur.com/aRumwdU.jpg?1)
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: Barthheart on January 22, 2018, 11:55:18 AM
 :clap:
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: undercovergeek on January 22, 2018, 11:58:01 AM
 #:-)

forgot the mugs - ill be back with white for those
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: bob48 on January 22, 2018, 01:02:29 PM
Looking very good, mate! :bd:
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Post by: JudgeDredd on January 22, 2018, 01:05:31 PM
Outstanding  O0
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Post by: mirth on January 22, 2018, 01:06:06 PM
Looking very good, mate! :bd:

+1 Very nice!
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: undercovergeek on January 22, 2018, 01:14:55 PM
Thankyou chaps - 2 more squads of 7, an officer and bodyguard, a sniper team, an arty observer and and an mmg team to go - that's 500 points ready for the matches in Feb
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: Staggerwing on January 22, 2018, 07:12:13 PM
Damn. You don't do things by halves, do you?
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: undercovergeek on January 23, 2018, 01:48:52 AM
Lol - no 40k this, you get a lot of shit for 500 points!
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: undercovergeek on January 24, 2018, 05:10:11 PM
with 21 more paras to paint it seemed like the perfect time...............

to paint a german instead - i think this is the model equivalent of those guys i see lamenting the pile of board games they have and keep adding to - despite the best of intentions and promises to not choose another force until the airborne were done, i couldnt help it

My German force will be standard Heer but the models will be the SS models because for some reason theyre just a much better looking model and have cool looking smocks. I made the scarf and hood (obviously not visible here, its behind him!) from green stuff, and theyll be a winter force - just a theme, nothing special with different rules or anything

just waiting on some winter tufts and working on how to make snow for the base and hes done

(https://i.imgur.com/lmnvyOQ.jpg)
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Post by: Tuna on January 27, 2018, 10:40:35 AM
Nicely done UCG!  O0
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Post by: bbmike on January 27, 2018, 11:08:23 AM
Once you are done painting a figure, do you spray the whole thing with some kind of clear, protective finish?
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Post by: BanzaiCat on January 29, 2018, 07:45:27 AM
Nice work!

Just curious, why did you paint the trousers of the German soldier in green camo and not field gray or a similar color to his coat?
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Post by: bob48 on January 29, 2018, 07:56:56 AM
Camo smocks were usually reversible - camo one side and snow on the other - I guess that is what 'geek is modeling?
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Post by: undercovergeek on January 29, 2018, 09:20:11 AM
Camo smocks were usually reversible - camo one side and snow on the other - I guess that is what 'geek is modeling?

what bob said plus the picture i found for reference had these camo trousers and a white winter jacket - sumpfmuster i think its called
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: undercovergeek on February 10, 2018, 02:17:25 PM
The guys of 1st Squad, Standard Heer Army - each squad will consist of 7 men - 3 assault rifle troops, 1 one of which also has a panzerfaust, 2 riflemen, 1 one of which is the loader for the LMG, an LMG, and an NCO with MP40 - this squad just needs the NCO and the 3rd assault rifleman

(https://i.imgur.com/n7mG4fy.jpg)
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Post by: bob48 on February 10, 2018, 02:38:31 PM
They really look great 'Geek. Nice work!  :bd: :bd:
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Post by: undercovergeek on February 10, 2018, 02:51:45 PM
thanks bob
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Post by: Nefaro on February 12, 2018, 02:17:08 PM
You've been busy, UCG! 

Looking great!   :bd:
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Post by: acctingman on February 12, 2018, 03:30:55 PM
Goof lord UCG....those are stunning. I'm envious of your skills!  :notworthy:
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Post by: BanzaiCat on February 13, 2018, 08:32:30 AM
That IS excellent work. Keep it up!
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Post by: Barthheart on February 13, 2018, 08:37:39 AM
Really great work UCG.  :clap:
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Post by: undercovergeek on February 13, 2018, 03:51:48 PM
Thankyou all - I have some new men coming in the post
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Post by: acctingman on February 14, 2018, 07:40:34 AM
UCG.....care to share how your painting those? I watched that guys video about inks but he's doing that on large scale creatures. Not sure inking would work on 15mm?

Great job regardless. It's inspirational!!
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Post by: undercovergeek on February 14, 2018, 12:35:04 PM
Ahh the inks guy - that was for skaven or night goblins I was thinking about

These are just old fashioned painting, models sprayed with uniform grey primer a quick mess about with milliputty to make the hoods and scarves, trousers are a light brown base coat, red and green camo and then a dark wash, coat is a very very light grey and then a dark wash, gun is a very dark grey with a dark wash and then a dry brush of gun metal, face is a pale flesh and then a flesh wash and a very thin red ink for red cheeks and noses for the winter climate - that's pretty much it

After gaining a lot of confidence with these chaps I've decided on a traditional German heer in standard uniform, it's a simple scheme but I really like the feldgrau colour - I'll post when my first one is painted up
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Post by: undercovergeek on February 25, 2018, 03:04:08 PM
Sooooooooooooo, slight change of plan - i ordered a sprue or two off Ebay, always a good idea before laying out the big bucks, of both Blitzkrieg Heer infantry and Early German infantry - the Blitzkrieg models are great with leatherboots and neat uniforms, same as the early ones - however - i think both these sets were done before Warlord Games adopted the more GW 'heroic scale' for the figures - so with heroic scale you admitedly get out of proportion hands and faces similar to space marines, and this maybe the weird scale you guys first mentioned at the start of the thread - but you also get a better level of detail with heroic

what they also started doing recently was creating a complete set of arms holding a weapon - so left arm and right arm holding a rifle, fully scaled and sculpted. What you do with the old kits is choose a left arm, and a right arm, and a weapon to sit in the hands youve chosen and glue it all together so the gun never really looks like its in the hands, more on the hands, and the hands!! ........ because theyre so small they look like little mittens with hardly any seperate finger detail and if you get flashing on there too - youve got a proper melty looking hand right out in front of your guy for everyone to see first

What we need then is a more modern set of figures, big hands, premoulded arms with weapons, Germans - this leaves us the SS or late war Grenadiers. I have a grenadier sprue and i like the figures, but i have a box of SS i was using to make the winter troops.

Ive opted for SS, i like the figures, the mouldings, the poses and especially the smocks - im going with Oak Leaf Spring camo and this is where were at so far

(https://i.imgur.com/gMD4com.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/kKWKqoy.jpg)
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: bob48 on February 25, 2018, 03:06:26 PM
Armed with the StG 44, I see.
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: undercovergeek on February 25, 2018, 04:06:46 PM
Armed with the StG 44, I see.

He is - I think the ss can take all assault rifles but I think itís frowned upon
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: undercovergeek on March 03, 2018, 11:05:39 AM
Assault gun guy done, and now the squad NCO with MP40

(https://i.imgur.com/zlsLLDE.jpg)

My efforts so far

(https://i.imgur.com/SgKWwxD.jpg)
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Post by: Staggerwing on March 03, 2018, 11:27:55 AM
Nice!
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: undercovergeek on March 03, 2018, 11:33:40 AM
thanks 'wing
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Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on March 03, 2018, 12:15:16 PM
Bloody Nazis.  They're trampling the flowers!
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: undercovergeek on March 03, 2018, 12:21:38 PM
i figured to match the spring camo id get some daffodil tufts, but yeah frikking nazis stomping on the flowers
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Post by: GDS_Starfury on March 03, 2018, 11:03:52 PM
how did you do the ground effects?
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Post by: undercovergeek on March 04, 2018, 02:14:34 AM
Before I prime I pva some small hobby rocks on and then dip in hobby sand

This is then painted brown, dry brushed a lighter brown and dry brushed a bone colour then a wash of strong tone ink - when dry pva some areas and dip in hobby grass and superglue on some longer grass tufts or flowers
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Post by: Staggerwing on March 04, 2018, 05:27:52 AM
I vaguely recall seeing someone's YT vid where he uses some kind of (electrostatic?) tool to 'grow' ground cover onto a diorama. Anyone familiar with this device?
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Post by: Nefaro on March 08, 2018, 11:20:43 PM
I vaguely recall seeing someone's YT vid where he uses some kind of (electrostatic?) tool to 'grow' ground cover onto a diorama. Anyone familiar with this device?

Is that something to do with 'static grass' such as the following?

https://www.amazon.com/Green-Static-Gale-Force-Nine/dp/B001N1A7EO

The charged grassy slivers which will stand up, in bunches, when glued to bases.
Title: Re: The painting urge is strong - cannot resist
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on March 08, 2018, 11:36:54 PM
(https://chia.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Chia-Pet_Creepy-Holden__No-Button-1.jpg)
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Post by: bbmike on March 09, 2018, 05:52:58 AM
^That should be posted in the "Want" thread!  :bd: