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Digital Gaming => Computer Wargaming => Topic started by: AchillesLastStand on July 30, 2017, 11:18:18 PM

Title: Foxhole has been released on Steam.
Post by: AchillesLastStand on July 30, 2017, 11:18:18 PM
Played this about a year ago during a free alpha and it was pretty good, it only had infantry at the time but quite a bit has been added since then including light tanks and arty. Anyone played or playing this currently?

http://www.foxholegame.com/

http://store.steampowered.com/app/505460/Foxhole/

"Foxhole is a massively multiplayer game where you will work with hundreds of players to shape the outcome of a persistent online war. Every individual soldier is a player that contributes to the war effort through logistics, base building, reconnaissance, combat, and more".

Key Features


Player Autonomy - Every solider is controlled by a player. Players ARE the content.

•Sandbox warfare, where players determine the narrative of a long term war


•Emergent strategies and tactics make every part the war feel unique


•Your character stays active in the world even after you've gone offline


•Build your capacity to contribute to the war by acquiring resources, crafting, and building

Persistent World - Join hundreds of players in a shared, war torn universe.

•Capture and setup supply lines to keep your frontline well equipped


•Execute long term strategies that take weeks of planning, changing the tide of the war with minimal casualties


•Conquer and relinquish territories in a back and forth, high stakes conflict


•Play as a persistent character throughout the war, gaining notoriety and influence among your faction
Realistic Combat - Tense and cerebral battles that keep you on the edge of your seat.

•Ammunition, resources, and information are limited, requiring players to work together to survive


•Dynamic battle conditions: Use the time of day and terrain features to gain an advantage


•Combat where skills and strategy matter more than stats or XP points


•Reconnaissance is as important as firepower












Title: Re: Foxhole has been released on Steam.
Post by: jomni on July 30, 2017, 11:56:36 PM
Started a thread a while ago but no one commented.

http://grogheads.com/forums/index.php?topic=20130.0

After playing the whole weekend, it seems to be pretty good. But it's actually a crafting game.  I heard that crafting became so complex compared to Alpha. Craft everything form weapons, ammo, factories, bunkers, vehicles, equipment.  It's also a tower defence game of sorts. Placing defences is key and is a slow creep. It kinda feels like WW1.  You do get to fight people but you also fight the automated bunkers and build your own -- which is the key to gaining ground.


 Best experience I had is if the team has dedicated logistics runners and stuff builders. That way you can concentrate on fighting in the front lines.  Without people handing you supplies, it's not fun at all.  Building the stuff yourself takes so long. I'd like to do logistics work but I don't know where to start (I think maybe build a truck first as almost all idle trucks are locked by their creator) but running supplies should be a massive and organised task. Not the work of just one person.

Title: Re: Foxhole has been released on Steam.
Post by: Jarhead0331 on July 31, 2017, 03:53:15 AM
^sounds like a peculiar design decision. Since when do soldiers manufacture vehicles and weapons on the front line? Basic fortifications, modifications and repairs, ok, but actually crafting weapons and vehicles?

Also, if your character remains active when you go offline, why can't it just be a traditional single player game, rather than yet another MMORPG?
Title: Re: Foxhole has been released on Steam.
Post by: MikeGER on July 31, 2017, 04:29:27 AM
why can't it just be a traditional single player game, rather than yet another MMORPG?

^the developer would had to build a real AI that is more then just a unit/tower placed in the world that start shooting when something get into range 
Title: Re: Foxhole has been released on Steam.
Post by: jomni on July 31, 2017, 04:57:33 AM
^sounds like a peculiar design decision. Since when do soldiers manufacture vehicles and weapons on the front line? Basic fortifications, modifications and repairs, ok, but actually crafting weapons and vehicles?

Also, if your character remains active when you go offline, why can't it just be a traditional single player game, rather than yet another MMORPG?

They manufacture stuff in factories in cities then brought to forward bases by others manning supply trucks.  You can do salvage runs (from the dead) if desperate.  You build forts and bases in the front line. Destroy enemy auto-defenses and capture resources and key facilities... inching closer to the capital.  Defenses help  in maintaining the front line when server population is low or concentrated on one area of the map for a big offensive.

No RPG elements. Don't get attached to your guy. You die quickly by getting hit twice and spawn after a minute. He's just fodder.   :bd:
Title: Re: Foxhole has been released on Steam.
Post by: Jarhead0331 on July 31, 2017, 08:36:46 AM
It sounds a little like Running with Rifles, which is a great game and has a robust single player mode. Big WWII Pacific Theater DLC coming soon and tons of awesome mods.
Title: Re: Foxhole has been released on Steam.
Post by: Yskonyn on August 12, 2017, 09:12:00 AM
This is actually a super fun game from the looks of the videos on YouTube.
I am going to take a look at it myself over the coming days.
Title: Re: Foxhole has been released on Steam.
Post by: bbmike on August 12, 2017, 12:07:33 PM
MMO? No, no, no!
Title: Re: Foxhole has been released on Steam.
Post by: jomni on August 12, 2017, 08:49:23 PM
This is actually a super fun game from the looks of the videos on YouTube.
I am going to take a look at it myself over the coming days.

Warning. The isomeric and limited field of view needs getting used to.
Title: Re: Foxhole has been released on Steam.
Post by: Yskonyn on August 12, 2017, 09:46:29 PM
Ok I am a little bummed here: can one only play on 'smallish' servers? No big single shard war? Does this require people to be in guilds of some sort or is the community friendly to randoms as well?
If its the first then I'll file for refund.
Title: Re: Foxhole has been released on Steam.
Post by: Hofstadter on August 12, 2017, 10:29:06 PM
No guilds as far as I know. It's just a pain to know what to do
Title: Re: Foxhole has been released on Steam.
Post by: jomni on August 13, 2017, 12:06:55 AM
Ok I am a little bummed here: can one only play on 'smallish' servers? No big single shard war? Does this require people to be in guilds of some sort or is the community friendly to randoms as well?
If its the first then I'll file for refund.

No small battles.  Community is friendly so far.  But heard there are some nasty people too and those who are selfish with their crafted stuff but never encountered any.
Title: Re: Foxhole has been released on Steam.
Post by: Dread Rlyeh on August 20, 2017, 04:37:00 PM
This game is actually pretty fun, I'm surprised more of the Grogs aren't playing it.  The view however does take a bit of getting used to, especially when driving.  I thought that would be a game breaker for me, but I was pleasantly surprised.  It certainly helps balance the various weapons.

If you are a new player, you can be a big help to your team by simply mining scrap.  Look for the screw icons, go there and hit the scrap piles, drop it off in the nearby box.  A logistics crew will most likely be by within 5 or 10 minutes to pick it up.  If someone is already working the yard (you really only need 1 person), move to another screw location.  In the meantime, practice the controls and watch the chat/map as to get a feel as to what is going on.  Let the team know if you have a full box or if there is significant tech that needs to be picked up. 

Some general tips:
- For fighting, to start with, I suggest arming yourself with a rifle as this offers a (relatively) large viewing distance.  Kneeling or prone will improve accuracy.  If rifle grenades are available, grab at least the adapter and 1 grenade.  The view range is HUGE and a massive boon to a new player on the battlefield.  Use it to scout and get the lay of the land.  To use - equip the adapter and a grenade from your backpack.  Take our your rifle, press shift, then press reload.  RMB to aim.

- Crewing a foxhole or bunker will vastly improve your survival.  No real downside other than make sure you don't block it for a more experienced player.  You can build an unconnected foxhole and use this to hold territory while other teammates build to you. 

- Join a game in the early stages, look for < day 5.  Don't throw yourself into a meat grinder until you know some basics. 

- Did I mention rifle grenades?  Great for killing builders/their nascent buildings, HMG, FMG crew, and newbies behind sandbags.  Experienced, players will obviously attempt to run out of the kill zone before detonation. 

- Once you hit full encumbrance, there is no additional penalty.  Depending on the distance, it is certainly feasible to carry, on foot, a full load of scrap to a manufacturing plant.  Some towns will have both scrap and a manufacturing plant.  This isn't ideal of course, but if someone isn't running logistics it is an option if your scrap boxes are full or you can make it back between spawns.   

- Don't put mats into the townhalls/outposts, it takes significantly longer to extract them.  Drop them off in a box nearby. 

- Until you understand the appropriate tech progression, DON'T submit tech.  Leave it in a box and/or tell an adult. 

- Read the wiki  :)


Title: Re: Foxhole has been released on Steam.
Post by: Yskonyn on August 20, 2017, 07:45:28 PM
Thanks for the tips.

Its not for me, though. I have gotten the game refunded.
Title: Re: Foxhole has been released on Steam.
Post by: Dread Rlyeh on August 20, 2017, 08:18:36 PM
Thanks for the tips.

Its not for me, though. I have gotten the game refunded.
Out of curiosity, was it the view (and the necessity of constantly adjusting it)?  That seems to be one of the top complaints about the game and certainly made me hesitate. 

One thing I've enjoyed is the long term planning aspect.  It's fun to think "I bet they are going to push town X hard in an hour or two" then build up the defenses and watch them founder on the rocks so to speak. 

Anyway, whats nice is the amazing variety of indy/small studio games we currently have.  I'm guessing you have a healthy queue or at least some fallback options.  Kudos to steam on the refund feature though, I wish that existed back in the old days  :)
Title: Re: Foxhole has been released on Steam.
Post by: Hofstadter on August 20, 2017, 10:41:37 PM
Yeah I shouldnt have bought this game. Very unfriendly to new players.

The current mechanics is basically flipping you off. "go ahead, find something to do, hope somebody doesnt give you bad info or lie, what do i care"
Title: Re: Foxhole has been released on Steam.
Post by: Dread Rlyeh on August 20, 2017, 11:22:09 PM
Yeah I shouldnt have bought this game. Very unfriendly to new players.

The current mechanics is basically flipping you off. "go ahead, find something to do, hope somebody doesnt give you bad info or lie, what do i care"
A lot obviously rides on the team composition.  Thankfully there are plenty of full servers and I've just been able to switch to another if there were a bunch of excessively toxic players or complete uncoordination.  There is a quite a bit of chaos currently as people learn the game and whatnot, but I expected that to improve as well as the devs improving squads.  In my own experience I've encountered more helpful players than thieves or trolls.

If you are in a newish game and want to practice combat a bit and help out the team, you can either harass or defend scrapyards.  Before they are walled off and littered with foxholes, there is often action.  Just hide in a bush until someone either comes to attack or to mine and let them have it.  Also, people will often try to steal sulfur early on too as it takes 3 hours to respawn. 
Title: Re: Foxhole has been released on Steam.
Post by: Yskonyn on August 20, 2017, 11:32:38 PM
The view was not such a problem for me.
I bailed because I was expecting a big war between two sides on a large single server, not small pockets with a fragmented community where it really depends much on which group of people you join to have a decent gameplay experience.

My two days of play were nothing more than running around looking for something to do, getting scared away from production sites because people were afraid you took their stuff or trying to get people to communicate at all.
There are too much nice games to play for me to try to like this one.
Title: Re: Foxhole has been released on Steam.
Post by: AchillesLastStand on January 01, 2019, 01:24:27 AM
Foxhole released the Foundation of War update a few weeks ago which added quite a bit of content.

"The biggest update in Foxhole history is live! The entire game has been revamped with a Visual Overhaul, World Redesign, Urban Warfare, and full fledged end game content like Battle Tanks and Ballistic Rocket super weapons".
https://store.steampowered.com/app/505460/Foxhole/

Picked this up on the Steam sale and so far has been worth the 13$,
You can help with supply/logistics or just grab a rifle/ammo and head to the front to try and turn the tide. They even added a small Naval element.
Title: Re: Foxhole has been released on Steam.
Post by: Huw the Poo on January 01, 2019, 02:23:57 AM
I'm very tempted but I try not to buy games in early access (although I can't always resist).  When is full release?
Title: Re: Foxhole has been released on Steam.
Post by: AchillesLastStand on January 01, 2019, 12:02:48 PM
I'm very tempted but I try not to buy games in early access (although I can't always resist).  When is full release?

Got this from the games official site,  "When will the full game be released?

Foxhole is currently available on Steam "Early Access" which you can find here. Given the ambitious goals we have for Foxhole, we imagine it will be quite a long time before we're ready for a "full release".

Not sure when that was posted but the game already has quite a bit of content. Played back when it was free{well over a year ago} and it is literally night and day. Played for a few hours last night and for 13 bucks I consider it worth the money. As I posted earlier you can fight on the frontlines, help with manufacturing{as everything in the game is player made} supply, logistics, even drive a vehicle/tank and there are even 3 different naval vessels. And the world map is HUGE.

Lotsa good info on the wiki    https://foxhole.gamepedia.com/Foxhole_Wiki

Title: Re: Foxhole has been released on Steam.
Post by: Huw the Poo on January 01, 2019, 12:54:13 PM
Thanks mate.  I really am very tempted by this.  Are there guilds or equivalent?

Edit: I realise I can look stuff up but I like to keep a conversation going on the forum. :)
Title: Re: Foxhole has been released on Steam.
Post by: Bardolph on January 01, 2019, 03:53:18 PM
Yes, there are units. Haven't paid any attention to them so far other than to note they exist. I haven't had much trouble finding folks to work or fight alongside when I want to, though the quality of leadership can vary wildly lol!
Easily worth the $12 I spent already.
Title: Re: Foxhole has been released on Steam.
Post by: jomni on January 01, 2019, 04:53:51 PM
Played a lot of this. But couldn't get myself to like the limited field of view.
Title: Re: Foxhole has been released on Steam.
Post by: AchillesLastStand on January 01, 2019, 10:19:37 PM
Thanks mate.  I really am very tempted by this.  Are there guilds or equivalent?

Edit: I realise I can look stuff up but I like to keep a conversation going on the forum. :)


Yes there are guilds.
Title: Re: Foxhole has been released on Steam.
Post by: Ubercat on January 06, 2019, 06:58:12 PM
Is there a good way to pick your faction equitably? Maybe the first thing you do is pick what side to play and I'd like to choose based on whichever side is behind in numbers so I can even things out. Also and related, can you be on more than one server at a time? How do you pick a server at the start?
Title: Re: Foxhole has been released on Steam.
Post by: Bardolph on January 06, 2019, 08:01:33 PM
Not sure. I joined the Wardens at the start and according to the world map we were doing very well but everywhere I actually went we were being hard pressed by the Colonials.

I think the numbers fluctuate enough during actual play that over numbers don't mean that much. Just a theory.
Title: Re: Foxhole has been released on Steam.
Post by: JasonPratt on January 06, 2019, 08:12:19 PM
It seems like there should be a Groggy guild...  :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: Foxhole has been released on Steam.
Post by: Tuna on January 07, 2019, 04:42:29 AM
When it's a new war, do you get to choose a different group?
Title: Re: Foxhole has been released on Steam.
Post by: Bardolph on January 07, 2019, 01:29:38 PM
As far as I know, yes.