So.... this popped up on RPS this morning:
http://kingdomcomerpg.com/
"Realistic Open World First-Person Medieval RPG" set in 1403. Done by developers known for their realism and detail? Umm..... YES PLEASE! Not a lot of info out on this yet, but it promises to be worth following. Also, it seems to be set in the Holy Roman Empire, which will certainly be of interest for some of you folks.
Here is the teaser:
The bad news: it is scheduled to release in 2015. So we have some time to wait.
Fascinating. Looks like one to keep an eye on. Thanks SoM!
2015 isn't too far off...thanks for posting, definitely right in my wheelhouse.
Quote from: Gusington on December 19, 2013, 01:28:38 PM
2015 isn't too far off...thanks for posting, definitely right in my wheelhouse.
It's only 612 years after 1403. Which, by the way, should answer some puzzles about the game:
1) Czech? 1403? Check! The Hussites are about to invent pistols and howitzers.
2) Rock paper shotgun seems to think that 1403 is somehow the end of the HRE.
3) But no. The HRE defeated the Hussites and and their wagonburgers and went on to reorganize itself and end the Schizmatic Antipapacy and work out the administrative Circle System and discover Copernicus, reinvent the wheel, and survive until 1802 or even 1806.
4) However....1403 is an interesting moment for the HRE and the Aztec Empires. Let's hope they keep them well separated, though.
Quote from: Martok on December 19, 2013, 12:38:28 PM
Fascinating. Looks like one to keep an eye on. Thanks SoM!
Form the comments in RPS -- this is somehow related, maybe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8L-eKBZrcl0&feature=youtu.be&t=3m35s
Quote from: son_of_montfort on December 19, 2013, 11:33:01 AM
The bad news: it is scheduled to release in 2015. So we have some time to wait.
ooops, more bad news: Americans will not like this game, say European Publishers (according to the Warhorse blog):
One of the biggest blows was being turned down by a very promising, international publishing company. Although the U.S.-based wing of the corporation seemed very excited about the project, their European representative let us know that they didn't think the game would fly with Americans from: http://www.warhorsestudios.cz/index.php?page=blog
Well, I guess we all know the problem with Americans -- they don't have much exposure to the basics assumed in historical narratives.
I know the whole concept of Schizmatic Antipopes always makes me cough up large chunks of unwholesome cheeseburger products and reach for a gin-laced Kentucky-Bourbon (sp?...betternow!) flagon (!) of bloodwarm mulled Coca-Cola. I've been reading to much RPS lately.
AND, my wholesome, free-range upbringing has made me leery of all of the Church councils -- and especially dubious about the Council of Constance (1415) -- why I named my first Pony "No Counciliary Condemnations" -- (not really) -- which burned Jan Hus despite his safe-conduct pass from the HRE -- and I named my first tractor "Hus" in his honor.
So no wonder European Publishers are leery of the game. They just know in their hearts, uh, that Americans will not like it.
If they don't have Ned Beatty squealing like a pig they can't call it Deliverance.
Quote from: tgb on December 19, 2013, 02:27:34 PM
If they don't have Ned Beatty squealing like a pig they can't call it Deliverance.
ooops! the american angle! Perhaps this is what had the European Publishers worried!
Quote from: MengJiao on December 19, 2013, 02:22:35 PM
Quote from: son_of_montfort on December 19, 2013, 11:33:01 AM
The bad news: it is scheduled to release in 2015. So we have some time to wait.
ooops, more bad news: Americans will not like this game, say European Publishers (according to the Warhorse blog):
One of the biggest blows was being turned down by a very promising, international publishing company. Although the U.S.-based wing of the corporation seemed very excited about the project, their European representative let us know that they didn't think the game would fly with Americans
from: http://www.warhorsestudios.cz/index.php?page=blog
...The hell??
Is it because the game doesn't take place in Europe that they think we're not interested? Or that we uncultured Yanks don't appreciate history (or something)? I'm more than a little baffled by their apparent conclusions. ???
Quote from: Martok on December 19, 2013, 02:48:40 PM
Quote from: MengJiao on December 19, 2013, 02:22:35 PM
Quote from: son_of_montfort on December 19, 2013, 11:33:01 AM
The bad news: it is scheduled to release in 2015. So we have some time to wait.
ooops, more bad news: Americans will not like this game, say European Publishers (according to the Warhorse blog):
One of the biggest blows was being turned down by a very promising, international publishing company. Although the U.S.-based wing of the corporation seemed very excited about the project, their European representative let us know that they didn't think the game would fly with Americans
from: http://www.warhorsestudios.cz/index.php?page=blog
...The hell??
Is it because the game doesn't take place in Europe that they think we're not interested? Or that we uncultured Yanks don't appreciate history (or something)? I'm more than a little baffled by their apparent conclusions. ???
Well, its pretty confusing since the Americans thought the Americans would like it, but the Europeans (mysteriously) assumed -- what?
It's not very clear what was supposed to not appeal to Americans -- Americans don't like games set in exotic locales? Just in southern california? Iowa? Brazil? Americans don't like games with swordplay? Primitive Artillery? Armor? Horses?
I'm baffled.
Quote from: MengJiao on December 19, 2013, 02:22:35 PM
Quote from: son_of_montfort on December 19, 2013, 11:33:01 AM
The bad news: it is scheduled to release in 2015. So we have some time to wait.
ooops, more bad news: Americans will not like this game, say European Publishers (according to the Warhorse blog):
One of the biggest blows was being turned down by a very promising, international publishing company. Although the U.S.-based wing of the corporation seemed very excited about the project, their European representative let us know that they didn't think the game would fly with Americans....
Whoever expressed the opinion that Americans will not like the game must have been someone doing the rave reviews of games that stink, and also one of the compilers of the "Top 100 Games of All Time" ilk. Idiot.
Thanks for the headsup.
Quote from: Martok on December 19, 2013, 02:48:40 PM
Quote from: MengJiao on December 19, 2013, 02:22:35 PM
Quote from: son_of_montfort on December 19, 2013, 11:33:01 AM
The bad news: it is scheduled to release in 2015. So we have some time to wait.
ooops, more bad news: Americans will not like this game, say European Publishers (according to the Warhorse blog):
One of the biggest blows was being turned down by a very promising, international publishing company. Although the U.S.-based wing of the corporation seemed very excited about the project, their European representative let us know that they didn't think the game would fly with Americans
from: http://www.warhorsestudios.cz/index.php?page=blog
...The hell??
Is it because the game doesn't take place in Europe that they think we're not interested? Or that we uncultured Yanks don't appreciate history (or something)? I'm more than a little baffled by their apparent conclusions. ???
maybe its got irony in it? :P
Or sarcasm? I done heard that Pope Doug Piranha used sarcasm to great effect against English Heresies. Or rival popes or something. I dunno anymore. :(
WHATEVS. I'm getting it.
Quote from: MengJiao on December 19, 2013, 01:39:07 PM
2) Rock paper shotgun seems to think that 1403 is somehow the end of the HRE.
Yeah, that had me scratching my head. I looked at the pic and said "It doesn't LOOK like an RPG set in the Napoleonic era." Although that would be awesome too. Also, some other guy said "more like the end of the Middle Ages," which I also took issue with.
Quote from: Gusington on December 19, 2013, 08:46:03 PM
WHATEVS. I'm getting it.
You will not like it. Just like all us other stewpid Ami. Ya see!
:P
Quote from: son_of_montfort on December 19, 2013, 11:47:44 PM
Quote from: MengJiao on December 19, 2013, 01:39:07 PM
2) Rock paper shotgun seems to think that 1403 is somehow the end of the HRE.
Yeah, that had me scratching my head. I looked at the pic and said "It doesn't LOOK like an RPG set in the Napoleonic era." Although that would be awesome too. Also, some other guy said "more like the end of the Middle Ages," which I also took issue with.
Well, I'm all for a game that tries to do something with Central Europe in 1403. But why as an RPG? The funny thing about RPGs is that a role is the last thing you have. You spend the whole game (such as in Skyrim) looking for a role. I'd be nice if you just got a role the way CK2 does it.
But not much hope of that. It will be 1403 more or less, but you'll be spending all your time trying to find the right shoes or learning how to repair hats.
Quote from: MengJiao on December 20, 2013, 09:02:36 AM
Quote from: son_of_montfort on December 19, 2013, 11:47:44 PM
Quote from: MengJiao on December 19, 2013, 01:39:07 PM
2) Rock paper shotgun seems to think that 1403 is somehow the end of the HRE.
Yeah, that had me scratching my head. I looked at the pic and said "It doesn't LOOK like an RPG set in the Napoleonic era." Although that would be awesome too. Also, some other guy said "more like the end of the Middle Ages," which I also took issue with.
Well, I'm all for a game that tries to do something with Central Europe in 1403. But why as an RPG? The funny thing about RPGs is that a role is the last thing you have. You spend the whole game (such as in Skyrim) looking for a role. I'd be nice if you just got a role the way CK2 does it.
But not much hope of that. It will be 1403 more or less, but you'll be spending all your time trying to find the right shoes or learning how to repair hats.
Why not an RPG?
I get the impression that they're shooting for something akin to
Mount & Blade. Which is an Action-Strategy-RPG of sorts and a good game.
Which reminds me.. I need to do some more
M&B: Napoleonic Wars multiplayer. Soooo fun.
Quote from: Nefaro on December 20, 2013, 03:22:31 PM
Quote from: MengJiao on December 20, 2013, 09:02:36 AM
Quote from: son_of_montfort on December 19, 2013, 11:47:44 PM
Quote from: MengJiao on December 19, 2013, 01:39:07 PM
2) Rock paper shotgun seems to think that 1403 is somehow the end of the HRE.
Yeah, that had me scratching my head. I looked at the pic and said "It doesn't LOOK like an RPG set in the Napoleonic era." Although that would be awesome too. Also, some other guy said "more like the end of the Middle Ages," which I also took issue with.
Well, I'm all for a game that tries to do something with Central Europe in 1403. But why as an RPG? The funny thing about RPGs is that a role is the last thing you have. You spend the whole game (such as in Skyrim) looking for a role. I'd be nice if you just got a role the way CK2 does it.
But not much hope of that. It will be 1403 more or less, but you'll be spending all your time trying to find the right shoes or learning how to repair hats.
Why not an RPG?
I get the impression that they're shooting for something akin to Mount & Blade. Which is an Action-Strategy-RPG of sorts and a good game.
Which reminds me.. I need to do some more M&B: Napoleonic Wars multiplayer. Soooo fun.
I liked Mount and Blade, but (unlike other RPGs where a role is not something you ever quite have) in Mount and Blade you led a band of quasi-mercenaries IIRC. If I get to lead a band of armed ruffians in 1403, I will be perfectly happy, but if I have to wade through a lot of wonderful storyline to do that, I'm going to be pretty resigned to being annoyed as per usual in an RPG.
I can imagine the story now -- You are a happy shoe-maker in Ulmph. There is tension in Umph between X and Y. Your uncle warns you about X and gives you a sword and some training. You run into some nasty X people. You save a (blank) from the X people. The X people are after you. Your uncle gives you a horse and a really crappy suite of crappy armor. You join the Y people. They are just as nasty as the X people etc.
I' rather just skip all that and pop into the game as a reasonably well-trained and well -armed member of the gentry who knows the X y and Z people are all nasty and is as potentially just as nasty as they are.
Just curious, did anyone ever end up backing this game in the Kickstarter....looks like you can still pledge...saw some info they expect the first alpha version in October, for those that pledge a certain level....thinking about jumping in before then, but haven't seen much more.
http://kingdomcomerpg.com/
Meant to include this live stream of the game, seems pretty cool...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84AiE46erkk
Saw this posted on their FaceBook page explaining release timing of the game....
"Alpha September/October 2014, Beta Q3 2015, release Q4 2015. Thank you for your support!"
Seems like a long way too go on this one.....have to say I am pretty tempted jumping in for the Alpha, but I have a few months to decide:)
50 mins of gameplay
Combat (which looks great)
Quote from: undercovergeek on August 26, 2014, 05:24:11 AM
50 mins of gameplay
Combat (which looks great)
Well, the trebuchets alone are too good to pass up. I'll get some big pistols (like Howtizer, pistol is supposedly a Hussite word, or at least invention) and an adze or an axe or an adxe or mattock and make do with those. If the Alpha turns up...I'm in there too.
WOW.
Yes please!!! This looks outstanding!
Day 1 buy. Early access if that's available. Just TAKE MY MONEY!!!11!ONE!!
I'll happily wait til it's fully patched and playable, but it does still look like one to get.
Looks like October 22nd is the day for alpha release....this will be made available to people who back the game, I believe for $45...another video below.
I am very close to pulling the trigger on this one....a game without magic and dragons in medieval times, exactly what I would want.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVZXU6Xs-x8
Interesting sword fighting video....looking nice. This just reminded me I picked the alpha up awhile ago and really haven't been tracking it much since was pretty raw early on...will have to fire this up again.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/08/17/kingdom-come-deliverance-combat/
I'm torn between contributing to this early access title or Heavy Gear Assault. What to do, what to do...
I love the big battles. But It seems to be heavily story based and has that grind factor which I don't like. No strategic element as well. What about multiplayer?
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on August 17, 2015, 08:28:37 AM
I'm torn between contributing to this early access title or Heavy Gear Assault. What to do, what to do...
you know youll do both
Quote from: undercovergeek on August 17, 2015, 09:35:46 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on August 17, 2015, 08:28:37 AM
I'm torn between contributing to this early access title or Heavy Gear Assault. What to do, what to do...
you know youll do both
Eventually, yes. But the price of EA on these two is not cheap and I'm not convinced that there is enough there in the early alpha states to justify the cost.
me personally, id do this one - not a mech guy, but i know you love the robots
What's this about "The Game is split up into 3 Acts? (http://forum.kingdomcomerpg.com/t/the-game-is-split-up-into-3-acts/23801)" and "It's actually 550 dollars to get all 3 acts you get 2 acts with 220 pledge."
No way in hell am I paying $550 for a game. I refuse to even pay $220! :o
Quote from: Greybriar on August 17, 2015, 12:44:16 PM
What's this about "The Game is split up into 3 Acts? (http://forum.kingdomcomerpg.com/t/the-game-is-split-up-into-3-acts/23801)" and "It's actually 550 dollars to get all 3 acts you get 2 acts with 220 pledge."
No way in hell am I paying $550 for a game. I refuse to even pay $220! :o
That doesn't even make mathematical sense - you can get Act I (with Alpha and Beta access) for $49.99. How the heck did they get $550 for the other two acts? Are they $250 each!?
To be honest, paying for future acts sounds like a bad move anyway. If I were to back it, I would only go for Act I, because if this is not a critical and financial success, those other two acts are never going to see the light of day.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on August 17, 2015, 08:28:37 AM
I'm torn between contributing to this early access title or Heavy Gear Assault. What to do, what to do...
I haven't played the latest version much but the prior version was somewhat limited that did not keep my attention. I more purchased with the assumption that as it got closer more stuff would come so might as well buy now. I'll have to give it a go again in the next few days to see if anything major added since.
Toonces don't do $50 pre-releases.
Still haven't played the alpha/beta much, but looks like I'll have more time...seems like delayed release until sometime in 2017....was supposed to come out this summer.
http://wccftech.com/realistic-medieval-rpg-kingdom-deliverance-postponed-2017/#ixzz49U6N3dd6
Seems like it will be released around the same time of M&B2 release maybe.
I need to save up for the Idris-M package of Star Citizen. Only $10K! O0
Video. Looks pretty nice.
https://youtu.be/W6Bp9fkplNo
Definately a game on my radar!
I've still got my eye on this one. Good to see development on it is continuing.
I am in the early access, will have to crack this open again....don't recall any recent updates so I wonder if that video based on something they haven't released to us yet.
What can you do in the early access version? How much of the map is available?
Quote from: Yskonyn on February 11, 2017, 11:27:51 AM
What can you do in the early access version? How much of the map is available?
From what I recall, wasn't a ton.....had a town or two the last time I played and you could walk around and have minimal interactions. As was expected, not very polished at the time but if I am not mistaken, the last update was a long time ago and just recently read no more coming as they finish off the final version. I do think it has potential, especially a game built on real world stuff versus magic and dragons.
I picked this up late in the weekend. It's really well done so far. Beautiful environment, nice character models and challenging, complex combat.
Presently in the tech beta, the story picks up somewhere in the middle of the plot permitting you to explore a part of the map with a few villages and settlements and try out a few missions.
I am very much looking forward to this. Any word on full release date?
Been watching this for a while as well. It scratches the itch/ gripe I had with skyrim. I want a deep non fantisy rpg set in historical medivel world. I'd buy in now but do you still get a steam key on release ?
Man I got completely scammed on Of Kings and Men. I want this, but early access...man I just don't know.
Quote from: Skoop on May 01, 2017, 03:28:15 PM
Been watching this for a while as well. It scratches the itch/ gripe I had with skyrim. I want a deep non fantisy rpg set in historical medivel world. I'd buy in now but do you still get a steam key on release ?
If you buy it now, my understanding is that you will receive access to the game through their launcher. However, they appear to be issuing Steam beta keys upon request. I think they have a limited supply of beta steam keys. I'm not sure what will happen upon retail release.
Still no news on coop?
New trailer is out with the news that an 'announcement' will be made this Friday, June 9 - on my iPad can't post the trailer link.
It's got to be the official release date, eh?
I hope so!
This is looking to be a realistic Skyrim! :) Lots of singleplayer RPG fun with a grand setting and gorgeous graphics! :smitten:
I really hope release isn't too far away now.
^I was thinking along the same lines, similar to Witcher. Looking forward to Friday :)
Quote from: Gusington on June 04, 2017, 01:27:47 PM
^I was thinking along the same lines, similar to Witcher. Looking forward to Friday :)
Is this the game without magic, gods, demons, etc. More realistically historical?
O yes :notworthy:
https://www.kingdomcomerpg.com/
Quote from: Gusington on June 04, 2017, 03:56:03 PM
O yes :notworthy:
https://www.kingdomcomerpg.com/
Nice.....might be an interesting change of pace from the FPS fantasy genre.
Definitely looks like it.
Release date posted as February 2018...three years later than originally posted in the Kickstarter campaign 💩
Pre-purchase
http://store.steampowered.com/app/379430/Kingdom_Come_Deliverance/
^Extremely tempting but I've already pre-ordered Shadow of War and Vampyr...I fear I may be slipping in to my old ways. Plus 60.00 is very expensive, even if the game is awesome. I got Shadow of War and Vampyr from Green Man for 20% discounts.
I backed it earlier. Awaiting Steam code.
The game is looking fantastic! Highly anticipating its release for 2018.
I agree the game looks promising from the early access beta, but I am annoyed they are not updating it. If I knew the beta was only going to be a limited demo, I probably wouldn't have bought it when I did.
Same here, honestly.
I'm getting this game mixed up with a different one. I thought this was the game that was like a hardcore medieval MMO. This game sounds like Skyrim without magic and dragons.
It sounds interesting, but not $60 risk interesting. I'll be very interested to hear impressions.
Holy crap, this thread was started in 2013. :o
Back when SoM used to hang around here. :'(
Quote from: Toonces on August 20, 2017, 11:53:05 AM
Holy crap, this thread was started in 2013. :o
Back when SoM used to hang around here. :'(
What has happened to him?
That's classified.
Quote from: Tpek on August 20, 2017, 01:48:08 PM
Quote from: Toonces on August 20, 2017, 11:53:05 AM
Holy crap, this thread was started in 2013. :o
Back when SoM used to hang around here. :'(
What has happened to him?
We could tell you, but then we'd have to kill you.
He's 'under-the-covers'?
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on August 20, 2017, 03:23:07 PM
Quote from: Tpek on August 20, 2017, 01:48:08 PM
Quote from: Toonces on August 20, 2017, 11:53:05 AM
Holy crap, this thread was started in 2013. :o
Back when SoM used to hang around here. :'(
What has happened to him?
We could tell you, but then we'd have to kill you.
And how do you figure on doing that, a world away and without most of your guns? ;)
Quote from: Tpek on August 21, 2017, 05:29:52 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on August 20, 2017, 03:23:07 PM
Quote from: Tpek on August 20, 2017, 01:48:08 PM
Quote from: Toonces on August 20, 2017, 11:53:05 AM
Holy crap, this thread was started in 2013. :o
Back when SoM used to hang around here. :'(
What has happened to him?
We could tell you, but then we'd have to kill you.
And how do you figure on doing that, a world away and without most of your guns? ;)
With my toenail clippings.
I've got a ready anti-toenail-clipping spray, courtesy of Batman.
Moist loins?
Quite.
Son of Montfort :'(
Man I sure hope the devs don't spooge this up. This game looks absolutely fantastic.
>:D YES >:D
Still no coop or multiplayer in this game? Kind of hoping they will add multiplayer.
Quote from: Destraex on October 27, 2017, 06:43:17 PM
Still no coop or multiplayer in this game? Kind of hoping they will add multiplayer.
You and your multiplayer. :hide:
Just about every game developed for the market today is multiplayer centric. It's so rare we get a fully featured sp experience without trying to appeal to the online masses. You'll have to deal with the 3 games in existence that don't have a mp component. I mean really, go play mount and blade! :pullhair:
TEEHEE
^ I don't often agree with Jarhead, but when I do it's not about guns, and it is about multiplayer gaming.
8)
What about watches?
Quote from: Gusington on October 27, 2017, 10:13:35 AM
Oh, yon yew tuewbe!
Wow, the presentation is great. I'm sure I'll try to play it someday.
Kingdom Come: Deliverance is scheduled for release in less than a month. Is anyone planning on buying it?
I mention this because I have a code for 25% off all PC games sold by Green Man Gaming that is valid until 23:59 UTC the 17th of January and I thought I'd use it towards the pre-order of
Kingdom Come: Deliverance.
Already did since I was an original backer
^me too.
Luck you! I hope you two enjoy it when it goes live. ::)
Am I the only one who didn't back the Kickstarter (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1294225970/kingdom-come-deliverance) for Kingdom Come: Deliverance and is now trying to decide whether to buy it or not?
Quote from: Greybriar on January 15, 2018, 04:42:01 PM
Luck you! I hope you two enjoy it when it goes live. ::)
Am I the only one who didn't back the Kickstarter (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1294225970/kingdom-come-deliverance) for Kingdom Come: Deliverance and is now trying to decide whether to buy it or not?
From what I played during the early alpha/beta and from what I have seen now, seems like it will be decent....no regrets on my part. You can buy for $35 over at cdkeys, seems like a fair price.
https://www.cdkeys.com/pc/games/kingdom-come-deliverance-pc-steam-cd-key
I've been looking forward to it forever and will be getting it...maybe not on release day but not that long after.
Thanks for the heads-up, Grim.Reaper. O0
Gus, from the Kingdom Come: Deliverance store page at Green Man Gaming: "Pre-order now to get the "Treasures of the Past" map pack, which includes trails to unique armor!"
I also already did via GMG with a 25% off :P
^You tempting RPG chippies!
I didn't get any discount from Green Man...maybe I'm too short :(
Quote from: Gusington on January 15, 2018, 05:42:33 PM
^You tempting RPG chippies!
I didn't get any discount from Green Man...maybe I'm too short :(
Gus, you have to use discount code BLUE25 when you pre-order
Kingdom Come: Deliverance from Green Man Gaming in order to get 25% off (the offer is good on all PC games). I don't know if the code is valid if you aren't on Green Man Gaming's email list.
Edit: From Green Man Gaming: "You have until 23:59 UTC, 17th of January to claim your unique 25% discount." (The BLUE25 discount code)
Hmm I am a registered user...but I am not getting any field in the order form to enter any codes. Not sure what is up.
Gmg are kinda weaselly and put the discount box on the checkout page.
I rechecked and now it is there...44.99...hard to resist
Just bought it, that 25% off hits that sweet spot, you know?
Thanks for the heads up!
You're welcome, Gus.
I backed it as well. Really looking forward to it!
I'm certainly wanting to buy this, but I'm going to skip the pre-order and wait for the reviews to come in. Toonces don't do pre-orders. :knuppel2:
Quote from: Toonces on January 16, 2018, 07:28:34 AM
I'm certainly wanting to buy this, but I'm going to skip the pre-order and wait for the reviews to come in. Toonces don't do pre-orders. :knuppel2:
+1
Hell a game needs to be world bending for me to consider buying full price nowadays. Backlog gives me lots of excuses to avoid buying more
When I read about this game my loins begin to moisten, but then I start thinking about irrational exuberance.
A year or so after release the bugs will have been worked out and there will be a sale that moves the price into my pull-the-trigger range.
And if the game is not delivering according to expectations, that will have become readily apparent.
But with a rational attitude like that, how is it that I still have far more games than I can possibly find time to play?
I...I don't know :(
Certainly on my radar to get! -- glad its release is on the way.
Today's video is a helpful 16-minute overview of our son-of-a-blacksmith protagonist Henry's struggles in a 16-square-kilometer world that's indifferent to him at best and actively hostile at worst.
For a look at how one of the main quests can potentially play out, head to the 12:12 mark.
Thanks for posting. The more I see of this, the more giggity I get.
I'm more excited for this than Mirth getting first in line at a Bill Murray picture signing.
Impossible.
Looks like Skyrim with a more elaborate combat system. And no Cat People.
I know!!
Quote from: Pete Dero on January 25, 2018, 10:12:09 AM
Today's video is a helpful 16-minute overview of our son-of-a-blacksmith protagonist Henry's struggles in a 16-square-kilometer world that's indifferent to him at best and actively hostile at worst.
For a look at how one of the main quests can potentially play out, head to the 12:12 mark.
Is Fuck a medieval world?
Hmmm. I'm afraid it's quite nauseating. But maybe it's just youtube.
Ye Old F--k maybe?
I don't know where I read this but I have seen the origin of the word 'fuck' attributed to German (of course) and it originally meant 'cattle mating.'
Quote from: Gusington on January 26, 2018, 11:26:41 PM
I don't know where I read this but I have seen the origin of the word 'fuck' attributed to German (of course) and it originally meant 'cattle mating.'
Straight from Snopes here is the Etymology of the the 'F-Word' (https://www.snopes.com/language/acronyms/fuck.asp)
Quote from: Sir Slash on January 25, 2018, 10:50:14 PM
Looks like Skyrim with a more elaborate combat system. And no Cat People.
Normally I'd say
that's a disadvantage but...
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...this case? Nevermind. :P
Oh my.
I think I've seen furry smut of him
I hear he NEVER does doggy-style. Just saying. ::)
I built that meme from
Tamriel MMO and
its race description. :DD :crazy2:
:buck2:
Use voucher EARLYBIRD25 for 25% off Kingdom Come: Deliverance from Green Man Gaming (https://www.greenmangaming.com/games/kingdom-come-deliverance/). "Pre-order now to get the "Treasures of the Past" map pack, which includes trails to unique armor!"
I did already. I am weak. But the loin moisture...it flows!
Steam says R18+ "High impact sex scenes and reference to sexual violence"
Steam says; R18+ High impact sex scenes and reference to sexual violence in kingdom come deliverance. I guess it is realistic but is it just in game to grab the hollywood wowser voyeur crowd? Once again I will re-iterate my view of a game needing to stick to it's core and primary subject matter. Which for most games I play is combat mechanics, not sexual intercourse or rape mechanics. This game though certainly has merit to include it, considering rape and pillage was a common occurrence during medieval warfare. This game is as much about medieval life as it is about medieval warfare. It's single player (rarely do I buy single games) only but looks so damned good it's still tempting. Comes out in two weeks or so. Is on playstation as well.... which I hope does not dumb the mechanics down in any way.
An interesting opinion on the steam forums, I think we often fail to appreciate what sex did to populations before contraception, it was a bigger deal than hollywood would have you believe:
"For anyone serious about Christian morality, sex was not an option. Celibacy was the ideal way to conduct one's life and sex was condoned only as part of a marriage. Punishments could range from years of doing penance to death.
But it wasn't just the Church that disapproved of adultery and fornication, it was also noblemen, who wanted to be certain that any children of their marriage were, in fact, their own. One real life story of courtly love gone wrong involved King Phillip of France (also known as "Phillip the Fair"). He discovered that his three daughters were having intimate relations with some of his knights and had the men publicly disemboweled. His daughters were then sent to monasteries and one of them was possibly murdered.
In reality, there was a more lenient attitude, especially in rural populations where sexual dalliances were routine. Often the priests would try to force the "sinners" to marry, and all would be forgiven. If marriage was out of the question, punishments could involve years of penance.
So sex could be a possibility in-game, but it would have to be a rare thing I supposed."
I just had an intersting conversation with the whole world about this ... lol.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/379430/discussions/0/1700541698696191432/
Just got my code from Green Man 😎
I heard the release date was pushed back to April 1st.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 12, 2018, 10:24:38 AM
I heard the release date was pushed back to April 1st.
I'm not sure you know how April 1st jokes/pranks work.
JH is a cruel mistress.
Vampyr really was pushed back from March 30 to June 5, however 😓
Heads UP! You can pre-load KCD right now. It's just over 35GB.
I know!!! I have to leave this 5th chamber of hell first and get home though.
I was an early kickstarter backer. Still don't have my steam code. Miffed.
It's coming straight from the developer?
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 12, 2018, 02:39:10 PM
I was an early kickstarter backer. Still don't have my steam code. Miffed.
Did you look at your profile page on their site? I see my profile has been updated with link to steam to activate.
Feel like staying up late tonight or maybe getting up early AM? You'll be able to Officially play KCD at 3:00 AM EST.
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on February 12, 2018, 03:09:12 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 12, 2018, 02:39:10 PM
I was an early kickstarter backer. Still don't have my steam code. Miffed.
Did you look at your profile page on their site? I see my profile has been updated with link to steam to activate.
Thanks for the tip, Grim. I was able to activate on steam through the KCD website.
Preload that sumbitch.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 12, 2018, 03:45:30 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on February 12, 2018, 03:09:12 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 12, 2018, 02:39:10 PM
I was an early kickstarter backer. Still don't have my steam code. Miffed.
Did you look at your profile page on their site? I see my profile has been updated with link to steam to activate.
Thanks for the tip, Grim. I was able to activate on steam through the KCD website.
Your welcome and I am good to go as well...just preloading at the moment
I am now preloaded for bear.
Quote from: Gusington on February 12, 2018, 10:23:03 PM
I am now preloaded for bear.
Me too but I'll be damned if I know how I'm going to play this, SE5 multiplayer and watch the Olympics too. Decisions, decisions, decisions...
The game had already been unlocked! At least here it has! 👍🏻
Just got sent a screenshot by a friend. I am out of town so have to wait... 🙈
Been looking at this for months and months. Sincerely hope it is one of those that lives up to expectations.
Please let the masses know how it is. Been watching this but got burnt enough times to not preorder games.
A surprisingly cool reception from RPS...however, the review is noticeably light on detailed game impressions and once again obsessive when it comes to issues of gender and race. God how they annoy. I swear, they are the Huffington Post of gaming. Get over it already.
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2018/02/13/kingdom-come-deliverance-review/ (https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2018/02/13/kingdom-come-deliverance-review/)
I agree with you there - enough of the politics in the review. And I usually like RPS. Didn't read like that particular reviewer liked it much, but they also compared to Witcher 3, which is unfair, I think.
Quote from: Gusington on February 13, 2018, 07:49:22 AM
I agree with you there - enough of the politics in the review. And I usually like RPS. Didn't read like that particular reviewer liked it much, but they also compared to Witcher 3, which is unfair, I think.
...and Skyrim/Elder Scrolls. Equally unfair. I get that they are the logical comparisons, but at least understand the reason for the differences, for example, historical accuracy, or at least credibility. I would agree that curing the plague and running errands for a noble in the 14th century can probably be extremely dry, but is that the real takeaway from the game? It supposedly has an extremely detailed combat system and this review talked about it in a single paragraph...
Man alive, the comments section under that review has shaken my already weak faith in humanity. What a bunch of friggin' snowflakes.
But, more to the point, no quicksave? Seriously? :-\
No quicksave enrages me - but I would bet that it will either be added by the developer or modded in soon if at all possible.
I also want more info on the combat - sieges, swordplay, etc. I think RPS got the wrong person to review this.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 13, 2018, 06:31:41 AM
A surprisingly cool reception from RPS...however, the review is noticeably light on detailed game impressions and once again obsessive when it comes to issues of gender and race. God how they annoy. I swear, they are the Huffington Post of gaming. Get over it already.
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2018/02/13/kingdom-come-deliverance-review/ (https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2018/02/13/kingdom-come-deliverance-review/)
I read the review...it would seem the game lacks a 'quick-save' feature and the article hints that it has some sort of 'check-point' save system. Personally, a no 'save anytime/anywhere' feature in a game like this is a turn off. Did I mis-read the save part of the article?
No.
Negative, Ghostrider.
Looks like we'll have to wait for one of our intrepid Grognatti to review the game. ???
There is no normal save system.
The game is automatically saved at certain checkpoints, and in addition, the game devs took a cue from various JRPGs and let you can acquire an item in game,
the Savior Schnapps, that when consumed (it is alcoholic though) will make a quick save.
Quote from: Rayfer on February 13, 2018, 08:39:53 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 13, 2018, 06:31:41 AM
A surprisingly cool reception from RPS...however, the review is noticeably light on detailed game impressions and once again obsessive when it comes to issues of gender and race. God how they annoy. I swear, they are the Huffington Post of gaming. Get over it already.
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2018/02/13/kingdom-come-deliverance-review/ (https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2018/02/13/kingdom-come-deliverance-review/)
I read the review...it would seem the game lacks a 'quick-save' feature and the article hints that it has some sort of 'check-point' save system. Personally, a no 'save anytime/anywhere' feature in a game like this is a turn off. Did I mis-read the save part of the article?
There is no quick save but apparently there are limited supplies of a "save-potion?" that you can use if you feel the situation warrants. I have my eye on this one. I'd really love to support the devs with this but I just have too much of a backlog and in all honesty I love magic and lore which this seems to be lacking.
[ninja'd]
FWIW there are about 800+ Steam reviews posted already and a few of them mention the game being much improved over the beta in its current state (v1.2 I think).
Over at www.gamepressure.com they've already started a KCD game guide. Eventually they will complete is with a full game walk-through. Currently the guide has some great tips on many aspects of KCD.
Direct guide link: https:/guides.gamepressure.com/kingdom_come_deliverance
Sorry, direct link fix:
https://guides.gamepressure.com/kingdom_come_deliverance/
Thanks for the above, Trek and Pratt. I wonder if Angry Joe will have a look at this.
https://www.gamingnexus.com/Article/5609/Kingdom-Come-Deliverance/
And yet, here I am, with a straight face, ready to give this game a very high, very well-deserved score. When all is said and done, all I want to do is play more and more Kingdom Come. Its merciless first-person immersion, its nuts and bolts history lessons, its Bohemian art and architecture—all of it. It's an achievement, even when it trips itself up
Kingdom Come is a walking simulator merged with an RPG that takes you down a Wikipedia black hole. Accepting its historicity and deciphering its cerebral game systems is like completing a religious rite.
Rating: 9 Excellent
My first impressions:
Graphically the game is a mixed bag. Many textures far away are very blurry, while many graphical elements close by are highly detailed.
It gives the game overall a touch of indie roughness.
NPC's do seem to wander around locations living their own lives for the most part, but many NPC's don't react to you when standing next to them.
The close up conversations are awkward. There is little facial expression and the lip sync is awful. It makes talking to them like trying to converse with automatons. The voice acting itself is pretty good so far, though.
The combat system is fun and realistic, though I find Henry very slow. It fits with the narrative though, so I hope this gets better when he has trained more.
There is some rubberbanding in fights.
People complain the game is slow, but afaik Warhorse have always said the game is supposed to be a Medieval life sim with an RPG bolted on top.
So I never expected a fast game.
The love for the era shows everywhere. Lots of high quality details all around the scenes.
I hope the story will be of great quality too.
So even though I find it a little rough, I am looking forward to continuing.
Some of the reviews on Steam are hilarious:
Quoteon my first quest i was told to get some tools back from the town drunk.
i broke into his house to try to steal them back, but the chest was locked.
i tried to find the guy who sells lockpicks but gave up on that and decided to try a different way.
i went back and just started punching the man, and was forced to run for my life after realizing he has the hands.
i went to some womans home and knocked her unconscious and stole her onions, then sold the onions to buy charcoal for my father.
i then used the rest of the gold to go to the tavern and get drunk, thinking that it would up my speech enough to convince my fellow drunk to give the tools back.
i did not take into account that people do not want to talk after you punch them, and he quickly ran to a guard and i was thrown into jail.
i then burned to death in jail and had to restart.
this was the tutorial.
:D
Prepare to piss your pants :DD
This is so ridiculous. I guess I'll complain about the lack of white Europeans in Nobunagas ambition
As a black lesbian trapped in a 12 year old white male body, I find your remark highly offensive.
Thank God the Avatars here are diverse enough. Wouldn't want the C:-) coming after us.
SJW of the world unite!
OK, there is already a mod fix for the KCD save game problem. Go to the Steam KCD discussions forum. Find the post on page 1 titled "This game needs a normal save system." Open that thread and scroll down until you see the avatar name ussshadowup. There is a window box there with the title "How to remove the need for Saviour Schnapps". Creator is Gaston Legume. Click on it and you will see two DLs with two choices. Simply place which ever one you want in your KCD Data folder.
Quote from: PanzersEast on February 13, 2018, 01:38:20 PM
Prepare to piss your pants :DD
I wonder if Mr. Middlemas bought a copy of Mass Effect Andromeda?
Quote from: Gusington on February 13, 2018, 02:04:57 PM
As a black lesbian trapped in a 12 year old white male body, I find your remark highly offensive.
Go to your safe space Gus
My safe space is here with my comfort wombat and blankey.
Finally getting to play tonight. Had to ditch the mother-in-law when she decided to stop by after work or I'd already been in.
It's ok, now I'll be plenty sauced by the time I get going.
Careful Dude. Sometimes they come back. Especially when you're sauced. >:(
Quote from: Sir Slash on February 13, 2018, 07:35:24 PM
Careful Dude. Sometimes they come back. Especially when you're sauced. >:(
lmao :2funny:
I'm enjoying the story so far. No technical issues yet.
Have you entered combat?
Quote from: Gusington on February 13, 2018, 09:00:14 PM
Have you entered combat?
Outside of training, I got into a fist fight and kicked the guys a$$. Guy owed my dad money and had the nerve to call me the son of a whore, when I politely asked him for even a partial payment.
I mean in the game.
^ :2funny:
This thread is gold, Jerry, gold!
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Man, this game needs some settings for tweaking the head-bob and weaving and various edgy crap. I don't easily get dizzy in first-person games, but this has me spinning a bit.
Also, the gamecode currently sets my gamma awfully high when exiting! -- shouldn't be affecting my normal gamma levels at all. >:(
I'm running the game fine on Ultra settings. I've just confronted Kunesh and chose the dialogue option of telling him my Dad would come back and kick his ass. (I've seen several walkthrough videos on youtube where Henry got slaughtered by Kunesh). So, JH if you won the fight with him you're already doing damn good.
Anyway, I left his house and then sneaked back and took the axe out of the stump while he wasn't looking but I can't find any hammer and nails. I've looked everywhere, even inside Kunesh's house. I suspect the axe is all you need to complete the quest. BTW, is there something marked on the quest screen to notify you when you have successfully completed a quest? Maybe I'm getting tired from lack of sleep and haven't found an indicator yet. Think I'll hit the sack and come back to KCD tomorrow.
Also the mod fix for game saves is working great. So far, I'm really enjoying the gameplay and pacing of KCD. I already feel immersed in the medieval world and the interaction with the characters.
How many hours do you think the gameplay is?
I ganged up on Kunesh with my buddies after throwing horse shit at the wall of Deutsch's house.
Hilarious.
Kunesh didn't stand a chance.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 13, 2018, 09:06:58 PM
I got into a fist fight and kicked the guys a$$. Guy owed my dad money and had the nerve to call me the son of a whore, when I politely asked him for even a partial payment.
This is our Jarhead O0 \m/
-edit - and our Yskonyn :)
i actually thought that when i was watching a Let's Play by a German (family friendly channel, so often a peaceful/talk approach) YouTuber
he didn't dare to fight cause "he didn't knew the stats of the opponent", sneaked in the house found a trunk and it says: get lock picks from your buddies at the tavern. he went there listen in to some political conversations, was to chamberlain and PC to help his buddies with the prank, but nevertheless finally got the lock picks, tried to open the trunk, broke all the 4 lockpicks he had ...and had went to his father with his tail between his legs, to tell that that guy was to rude to overcome....
i was shouting at my screen:
Writing Bull (the nick of the Let's player) go grow some balls! ...and thought when JH is playtesting he will get a different result ;D
As a History teacher I didn't get far in this tonight. I kept pausing and yelling at my wife about the historical background that was going on in the game I was playing.
Didn't get very far. But but it was fun for what I did finish.
I played this one today as well. Really loving the historical authenticity. The combat is seriously challenging and this is the way it should be.
Jarhead, I kicked the first guys arse after realising that right mouse attack was better. Even my 8yr old PC can run this on ultra high. However the game does have it's share of memory leaks or loading pauses from time to time. Then you go back and play the same scene (I showed my son some cut scenes and his homework happened to be about medieval men and womens lives) and it's smooth as a babies bottom.
This is like what the actual warhammer factions should have been had they not been fantasy.... and set a lot earlier. The armour is gorgeous. I just don't think it is modelled in the combat fights. I saw one cut scene where slashing across lamellar armour seemed to kill people. So not sure about the armour physics yet. If at all. Still all in all it's like watching a AAA movie that is historical and very detailed. You really do learn a lot about medieval life.
This game (since I only played 5 minutes of skyrim before putting it down) has showed me something new. Made me excited to learn how to fight in game proper... because it is actually hard.
It's historical and well researched SKYRIM for Destraex. The combat is certainly better than SKYRIMs by a longshot but it's still not War of the Roses good because it had to be a system compatible with consoles, I would say, thus you cannot use the mouse to swing at whatever angle you want at whatever physical enemy part you want. As you could in roses. But you do swing 6 ways which is fine by me. You have Centre, overhead, left, right and two up strokes I think. Then you have a to stab or slash on each of those angles or defend on the same angles. That is a fair few ways of doing things.
But like skyrim I don't think armour matters other than to be a health buff to your character. But I really don't know about that at this early stage.
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I honestly didn't find the fight sequence with Kunesh too challenging. The key was to keep moving and manage stamina. The thing that bothered me was that his face got all banged up during the fight, but as soon as it was over and he gave up, his wounds disappeared so I couldn't admire my handy Work!
Anyway, the hammer and nails are in a chest in his house. The chests are easy to miss. I needed to sell all three items in order to have enough money for the coal.
It will be cool to read about other ways in which you guys go about completing the quests. It's cool that by accepting the Deutsch mission you could enlist your buddies to help you with kunesh. I declined to go on the manure throwing raid.
I am a little amazed to read Very High and Ultra arent a problem for ypu guys.
My i5 4670K and GTX1080 need to crunch hard and framerate is very inconsistent.
I do run at 4K, maybe thats the issue... ?
I didn't have enough money, even after bartering, from the Hammer alone.
So I sold one lockpick as well for quite a bit (even more with bartering). So I still have quite some spare change in my pocket.
Perhaps I can give the Lady of Talmberg a few glimmers for some handywork. She seems receptive.
Quote from: Yskonyn on February 14, 2018, 07:25:10 AM
I am a little amazed to read Very High and Ultra arent a problem for ypu guys.
My i5 4670K and GTX1080 need to crunch hard and framerate is very inconsistent.
I do run at 4K, maybe thats the issue... ?
I'm running on ultra settings, 4K and there isn't any noticeable lag or drop in fps. The only settings I have on very high are shaders and shadows. How much ram do you have? Maybe that's the issue for you?
All praise in Grogheads, but stem reviews is just 70+% positive?
The urge to buy this is strong.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 14, 2018, 07:28:05 AM
Quote from: Yskonyn on February 14, 2018, 07:25:10 AM
I am a little amazed to read Very High and Ultra arent a problem for ypu guys.
My i5 4670K and GTX1080 need to crunch hard and framerate is very inconsistent.
I do run at 4K, maybe thats the issue... ?
I'm running on ultra settings, 4K and there isn't any noticeable lag or drop in fps. The only settings I have on very high are shaders and shadows. How much ram do you have? Maybe that's the issue for you?
I have 32GB so that shouldn't be a problem.
I'll try lowering the shadows and shaders and see what happens.
HEADBOB FIX!
If this is giving you headaches do this: Hit your tilde key (you know the one next to the 1) on your keyboard to bring up the console commands and type in these two lines:
cl_bob 0
cl_headbob 0
This will eliminate the headbob!
Here are some thoughts:
Bugs / Performance:
I have not ran into many if any bugs. There was a sequence where Henry repeated a sentence during a dialog. On occasion I have had the loading screen on a dialog after chosen take a second or two. Currently I am running on just high and have no issues with the graphics and the environment is very engrossing.
Combat:
This takes some time to get used to, but it is not bad at all if a little awkward. I have found with fist and sword and you really have to manage your stamina and pick your shots / combo.
Environment:
The environment that I have went through so far is engrossing and very immersive. You for sure get the 15 century feel to it. I have noticed while riding my horse and getting off the road you are almost limited going through the brush where you should not be.... it is almost like trying to get through a maze where you should just be able to ride through. The rain and weather effect are very nice... and the overall landscape / environment is great to look at.
Story:
The introduction is long, I mean really looooong. But it build the story and does so quit well. I did not realize how much time I spent in game until I looked at the clock. There is a lot of build up and it flows quit well.
Gameplay:
Riding a horse if freaking fun, even more so than M&B in my opinion. I remember after one fight and talking to a Villager he told me you look like you have been beaten and robbed. So the environment acts to you but is not dependent on you. So for example getting the nails, hammer, axe back from a customer of your dad's can be accomplished in several ways, not just one.
The eating, sleep cycle in the game feels about right. I never felt like "crap I have to eat again, I just did that". Also, appearance plays a big role. Influence in the game goes a long way when dealing with people... and by influence I mean not just that you have a silver tongue, but how you are dressed and groomed, what you have done in your past etc... you walk around wielding a sword, the locals are not going to be receptive to talking with you.
The game it not perfect, but it is a lot of fun so far. It is engrossing, has immersion and tells a great story. But this is a 2 cent impressions as the game is just now opening up... if the modding community gets a hold of this, there is no telling how it may evolve. Don't get too wrapped up in the reviews, comparing this game to SkyRim or any other is not really fair and it does more things right than wrong.
I throw horse dung at a house......
Then Mr. Clean Shows up and Burns the town down!!!!
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Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 14, 2018, 07:24:33 AM
I honestly didn't find the fight sequence with Kunesh too challenging. The key was to keep moving and manage stamina. The thing that bothered me was that his face got all banged up during the fight, but as soon as it was over and he gave up, his wounds disappeared so I couldn't admire my handy Work!
Anyway, the hammer and nails are in a chest in his house. The chests are easy to miss. I needed to sell all three items in order to have enough money for the coal.
It will be cool to read about other ways in which you guys go about completing the quests. It's cool that by accepting the Deutsch mission you could enlist your buddies to help you with kunesh. I declined to go on the manure throwing raid.
I beat up Kern and then let him go. But instead of stealing, I went back up and got money off Dad for the charcoal. I figured he knew that poor sod could never pay when he sold him the gear and let him off easier. Kern even told me he would not forget it. I reckon I will encounter him later. I also declined the manure throwing raid.
Step one: sword training. (But no block training? Really??) I'm using a gamepad for the hell of it, and the lagtime for triggering a slice instead of a thrust is intolerable so far. Speaking as a nerdy bookworm, I feel pretty sure I had more of a handle on swordfighting after my first two or three lessons of fencing than this clod has had in his three or four lessons. And I picked agility as one of my strengths! (And speaking for the other, for all the fat lot of good it has done me so far.)
Step two: get money. Punched him out since I figured that was the tutorial's purpose and I'd better get to training for later. Again, the timing for triggering jabs and swings was more than a little janky, and I'm not at all sure I was ever jabbing (or stab-lunging) anywhere other than at his chest or face. Trying for swings or cuts (during sword training) from any other direction simply failed. This limited how many strikes I could chain, too, and worse the game gave me a thin margin (artificially thin this time?) between being close enough to jab and too close for him to grab me for a headbutt or something. I did learn how to kick, tho, by accident/experimentation, and was able to chain that a little.
Step three: take all the recovered tools to trade for cash. I'm a little unsure I understand the barter mechanics yet, as the first price I asked for the tools was accepted without further haggling, and I thought I asked for more than the game initially suggested/expected!
Step four: get the coal. I'm sure I haggled this better.
Step five: get the crosspiece. Nothing big here.
Step six: get the ale. This is where I quit for the night, experimenting with the game's autosave since I was also given my first batch of 3 Savior Schnappes. (Which I'll keep for later if I can.) I also refused to fling the poo: I'm already too much of a lackabout, and Dad's counting on me to get things done in time, not to be distracted.
Step seven: PRAISE GOD FROM WHOM ALL BLESSINGS FLOW, AND ALSO TREK! I will apply that fix to the nausea-bobbing pronto. For context, in the past couple of weeks I've racked up more than 20 hours in Subnautica, another first-person game of climbing ladders and swimming around underwater at weird orientations and bobbing on the surface of an ocean, and I have only maybe once gotten dizzy from that.
Step eight: ???
Step nine: profit. ("After we're doing with this work today, I should be able to buy you all drinks!")
What happened to your haiku allowance?
That week has finished.
Now all my posts are kaiju,
catching up wordcount.
^lmao
Quote from: Gusington on February 14, 2018, 01:47:05 PM
What happened to your haiku allowance?
I liked haiku Jason
Tldr Jason is back
Are these horror film sequels?
^Probably - but more frightening.
once mums tucked in were all doomed
Good review with some tips on how to start (e.g. practice to learn and unlock skills before accepting quests).
I've had my first frustrations with game, mainly with respect to the save system, the pacing and some of the nuance as to how the NPCs react to the player under certain circumstances. Still, I'm finding the story enjoyable, despite being slow and relatively dry at times and I think I connect more with Henry than I ever did with Gestalt from the Witcher series.
Mac of WAB many times seems to have a different take on his game reviews. He hit the proverbial nail on the head with this one. Finally, it dawned in my stupid head that this is not so much a game as it is a "medieval simulator." And I need to approach it and play it that way. I do agree with JH in that I'm already fully invested in my character and I've only played around seven hours so far. One of the big things that appealed to me when I first discovered the existence of KCD several years ago was that the devs were shooting for providing the player with a feeling of actually living in a medieval world.
So far, I think they've accomplished that goal and my enjoyment of KCD is all the better for it. No magic, no dragons, just pure living the life and dealing with the consequences of everyday in the world of Bohemia. Can't wait for future DLC and maybe even spin-offs of KCD. I really think Warhorse Studios are really on to something with this very unique title. Very glad I supported their dreams buy purchasing KCD. I feel like I'm part of a new direction in gaming.
Gestalt = Geralt?
Oh, almost forgot. The developers have already announced that they will institute a proper save system in an upcoming patch. They will also make lock-picking much easier to deal with. Lot of complaints about both of these two items everywhere. I'm still using the mod save-fix until the patch arrives.
Quote from: Gusington on February 15, 2018, 08:20:35 AM
Gestalt = Geralt?
Yeah...thats him. Whatever the f*ck that douchebag's name is.
Quote from: trek on February 15, 2018, 08:21:22 AM
Oh, almost forgot. The developers have already announced that they will institute a proper save system in an upcoming patch. They will also make lock-picking much easier to deal with. Lot of complaints about both of these two items everywhere. I'm still using the mod save-fix until the patch arrives.
That's good news. I find a lot of the "mini-games" are not very intuitive...lock-picking and haggling included. When I try to haggle, half the time I end up offering more than the trader was asking...WTF?
That WAB review was fantastic. Finally someone who has the patience to play the game as it's intended. I went ahead and bought it but will wait for the upcoming save game patch to start
It's so frustrating reading these steam forum comments whining about how hard it is or that it's on rails and slow (totally ignoring that the first 6 hours or so is tutorial)
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I have it and am waiting a week or two for the initial tweaks like the save system to be implemented too. Happy to see that it is selling well and has received a pretty good reception so far. As of last night the PC version had a 76 on Metacritic.
I'm glad that the game seems to be attracting the kind of players who for the most part are smart enough to understand what the game is trying to be and what it is not trying to be and appreciate it more so because of it. I could very easily see a lot of players buying it under the mistaken impression that it is the next "For Honor" and then blasting the game for failing to deliver the kind of "run and sword" twitch-fest they are expecting.
The overall positive reviews seem to reflect this.
Restoring our faith in gaming humanity.
Hmmmm, resistance weakening... ???
It comes with a KCD branded wrist sun dial.
I'm going to wait on the patch.
There's some large pauses in game (it's installed on my SSD and I have 16GB RAM...plenty good enough), it's messing with the gamma on my monitor when I exit game (as someone else has pointed out) and I'm bored flinging dung at the house (crash) - so the manual save in the patch will help.
I noticed after the hotpatch yesterday, the game doesn't seem to be messing with my main gamma settings when I quit it (although I did have to re-set my ingame gamma again.)
I didn't have enough time to devote in a block to playing it yesterday, but I hope to alter that deal soon. :knuppel2: (But I may also just wait for the save-anywhere patch, too, as an excuse to work on other things.)
I'm hooked so far, but the inability to pause during a cutscene and the progress loss between auto saves is appalling.
I took a phone call during the cutscene where the guy comes to pick up his sword - no way to pause - and by the time I got back, my character had died. Loading took me right back to the freakin start of the dung-flinging fight and I lost lost of all my experience. Had to re-do all the tasks again. I hope they at least add a quick-save.
Quote from: JudgeDredd on February 15, 2018, 02:13:56 PM
I'm going to wait on the patch.
Might be a two weeks wait.
https://www.pcgamesn.com/kingdom-come-deliverance/kingdom-come-deliverance-bugs-patch
It'll take two weeks to fix bugs affecting gameplay in Kingdom Come: Deliverance. Despite a day-one patch more than 20GB in size, the game's creative director Daniel Vavra says fixes won't be released until some time around the end of the month.
I was a backer on this and pre loaded....but real life work took over not allowing me to even try it. However, I have noticed every day another small patch being released, I just might wait until the first big patch is available before jumping in. Will be pretty busy the next few weeks anyways.
Does look good...
A mate of mine recommended this: It's for saves... unlimited. Use at your own risk.
https://www.nexusmods.com/kingdomcomedeliverance/mods/1
I read that after 300 saves the mod may break, but that doesn't happen often.
I am totally in love with this game!
9 hrs in and I really feel like I am beginning to know Henry and being part of this medieval society.
The story is very interesting so far and I do not mind the slow pace.
Quote from: Gusington on February 17, 2018, 11:56:52 AM
I read that after 300 saves the mod may break, but that doesn't happen often.
If that's the case I'll be doomed soon!
Though the game itself only allows you to keep a limited number of saves. Guess I'll keep everything backed up.
The mod break is rare too - good chance it won't happen to you, unless you're me.
That mod is a welcome game-changer.
I think this game has all the makings of a classic.
BTW - getting out of the Castle to go to bury his parents can also be achieved by simply jumping off the bridge near the gatehouse, but I had to go on foot that was one adventure in itself...
Quote from: Gusington on February 17, 2018, 02:52:11 PM
The mod break is rare too - good chance it won't happen to you, unless you're me.
It looks like there's a good workaround for it as well. Backing up and deleting all but the latest save, and then loading, deleting and re-saving in game clears the glitch.
Speaking of glitches, if anyone runs into the "Ginger stays asleep forever" bug, here's my fix for it last night. On the "Ginger's in a Pickle" quest, if Ginger won't wake up in the last stage, pickpocket him and purposefully fail. He'll wake up and run off.
Wait an hour and he'll be awake and non-hostile.
This bug's a main quest game breaker otherwise. Drove be bug nuts last night.
I also ran into the bug where the cutscene didn't trigger after playing dice with Nightingale and effectively stopped the game.
I saved right before it so perhaps the mod does cause issues.
Quote from: Yskonyn on February 17, 2018, 12:43:43 PM
I am totally in love with this game!
9 hrs in and I really feel like I am beginning to know Henry and being part of this medieval society.
The story is very interesting so far and I do not mind the slow pace.
Agreed, I know a fair bit about warfare in the period, but this game is teaching me so much about medieval life in general and the history of the area it is set in. This is pretty much the first RPG game I will probably stick with.
Tried taking a shortcut to where they hang criminals on the hill. Tried the 'Skyrim Hop' to climb up the side of a steep rocky hill and fell back head-over ass almost crippling my legs. Serious bleeding. Bandaged myself up and literally hobbled home. Reloaded. Tried again, but toggled 'walk only' on and took it really carefully up that hill, navigating the outcrops. Took a good few minutes. Found 3 different types of herbs growing in the undergrowth along the way.
Realism 10/10.
Its also the first game I play where it actually means something to do a quest differently than other people. I have seen several videos of people doing certain quests really different than I did with quite a different outcome.
I don't think the game is totally freeform, but at least it gives the impression many ways lead to Rome (or Kuttenberg in this case) without it being just a gimmick.
Very impressed so far. The only thing I find dissapointing is the robotic characters when you engage in conversation with them.
How do you all like the cities? Are they true cities or just groups of buildings?
Biggest settlement I have visited is Rattay. It has a proper castle with stables, battlements, nobility quarters, kitchen, etc.
Then the outer bailey consists of the market square with real market stands manned depending on time of day. The punishing stands are in the centre of the square as well.
Around it are several buildings; Rathaus, Church, Bakery, Taverns, Butcher, Fletcher, Tannery, etc.
All these buildings you can enter and actually function!
Then outside the walls you have the serfs with their farmsteads and the mill as well as the archery range and a training pit for swordplay.
So yes! It's detailed and convincing!
So how do you get charcoal?
I got money. I played Dice. Got more money. But everytime I go to where the charcoal is, the only option showing is to steal it (rob). I can't talk to the guy to see how much the charcoal costs or haggle - so I don't know if it's because I don't have enough coin. How much is the charcoal?
I can't believe I don't have enough money because I've read online other people getting back the tools and axe and selling them - which is what I've done.
I'm back - again - flinging shite at that f***ing house
Quote from: JudgeDredd on February 19, 2018, 01:43:50 AM
So how do you get charcoal?
I got money. I played Dice. Got more money. But everytime I go to where the charcoal is, the only option showing is to steal it (rob). I can't talk to the guy to see how much the charcoal costs or haggle - so I don't know if it's because I don't have enough coin. How much is the charcoal?
I can't believe I don't have enough money because I've read online other people getting back the tools and axe and selling them - which is what I've done.
I'm back - again - flinging shite at that f***ing house
in my case: first i got a severe beating by the axe-'owner' alone so i went to the friends had to do the prank so that they helped me beat up the axe owner who gave in, i took axe, and hammer nails from now open trunk and sold it at the market, bought 10 charcoal iIRC for 0.4 a piece at the charcoals-guy helper (a market merchant also has charcoal to offer)
JD, if you want to stay a do-gooder, in your house are lots of apples and vegetables you can take them and sell some of it if you are just short of a few missing coins
the game get very immersing later, and i didn't want to spoiler but it is not for the faint of heard, or someone in a emotional crisis, when you trace your way back to the village you flee from
well, looting a field of half-decomposing slain orks in fantasy middle earth, or people in über-fantasy Witcher3 is one thing, but this his history reenactment...
...it is as medieval as it gets! and very touching.
as some one who lives between a small castle and a small monastery in RL and of course were interested in my local history, the tiny villages i have seen in-game are spot on, only the travel distance between the spots seem to be a little to short.
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi64.tinypic.com%2Fnnmi6u.jpg&hash=1e17d28880fcf2d44274d206bcb470d915d77573)
btw: i use the save mod after an achievement or maybe 1 hour of play when there was none.
also i did a test to break a lock (easy) at a tower because i need to get some clothes to disguise as a Tannenberg warden
i saved at the lock and i did maybe 30 ! retries (save reloads) to open that lock ...no f*#+ing way.
so i chose a different approach, got my! horse (so not stolen:) ) and jumped it from the drawbridge...
Quote from: JudgeDredd on February 19, 2018, 01:43:50 AM
I'm back - again - flinging shite at that f***ing house
When you get into a fist fight with that guy keep your guard up (Q on PC keyboard) and let him have at you with a few blows then trade a few back. You have to be patient keeping your guard up and stay moving - he likes to grab your head and knee you in the face. Keep this up and once he starts faltering beat him up until he says he'll give you what you want. You'll get keys to unlock the chest and take the nails and hammer. The axe will be in the stump near to his home. Sell them then buy 10 units of the charcoal.
Ok - thanks but I don't think I was clear enough.
I've got the hammer, nails and axe. I sold them and had around 10 coin - maybe 8 - can't recall. My problem isn't how I buy charcoal - it's where.
There's a guy standing near a couple of horses, a cart and a shed load of charcoal on the ground. When I go to him, the only option popping up bottom left is to rob the charcoal. Not ask to buy some. No trade option. No dialogue option. Just rob.
I thought perhaps I didn't have enough coin. So I played dice a few times and got 20 coin. Still the guy has no dialogue options.
In the end last night, just because it seemed to be all I could do, I robbed it, got chased by guards and killed. Hence the shite throwing again.
So - where do I get the charcoal. Please, please don't say the guy standing next to the cart - I'm getting no dialogue options for him at all.
I haven't thought to try anyone else...mainly because a) that looks like charcoal on the ground and b) the quest target marker shows that's the place to get charcoal.
I'll take a vid tonight and show what I mean - 'cos I know how this dialogue is going to go.
It is the guy with the cart. Have you met up with the other guys yet? You have to do something first I think before the trade option is available. You should have other quest markers on your map - its one of them. Fling the shit, escape the catchpole, meet the guys behind that place, fight that guy, get the tools, sell the tools (to the guy with the cart) then buy the charcoal. You can also skip cutscenes by pressing escape and also fast-forward through them by pressing space.
Tip to everyone: the prologue to the game lasts a few hours so if you think it's on rails - don't worry. Until you get to the city the game hasn't really started...
Quote from: Ian C on February 19, 2018, 06:30:00 AM
It is the guy with the cart. Have you met up with the other guys yet?
Yes
Quote from: Ian C on February 19, 2018, 06:30:00 AM
You have to do something first I think before the trade option is available. You should have other quest markers on your map - its one of them.
I didn't think you had to do the tasks in a particular order...other than obviously getting coin - which I did
Quote from: Ian C on February 19, 2018, 06:30:00 AM
Fling the shit, escape the catchpole, meet the guys behind that place, fight that guy, get the tools, sell the tools (to the guy with the cart) then buy the charcoal.
I did it exactly in that order.
Quote from: Ian C on February 19, 2018, 06:30:00 AM
You can also skip cutscenes by pressing escape and also fast-forward through them by pressing space.
Yeah - thankfully I discovered that at least. That helps with the pain of the lack of user saves.
Quote from: Ian C on February 19, 2018, 06:30:00 AM
Tip to everyone: the prologue to the game lasts a few hours so if you think it's on rails - don't worry. Until you get to the city the game hasn't really started...
I thought I was the only one on here that was bored off my tits playing this. I was scared to say anything because - you know - the internet.
The only reason I keep coming back to it is because people have said this - so I'm sticking with it. It doesn't have to be run and gun and lots to do. I know it's not that kind of game. I think my lack of progress (I do not get why this twat won't sell me charcoal) and being stuck in a time loop with a bad save location is what's grinding about it.
That's weird - but I seem to recall this happened to me too, but I don't know how I got past it. Maybe checkout this vid and see if it helps (I noticed he goes for the fighting lesson before visiting the guy about the debt) : https://youtu.be/qdFEJ8So6xE?t=1462 note: spoilers if you view too far.
Let's know if it worked.
Unfortunately the game's quest systemis riddled with bugs. I've run into 3 situations where the game didn't trigger the correct event in order to continue, resulting in having to reload am earlier save.
Oddly enough the game continues just fine the second time I try something that was a blocker before.
So be wise and keep several savegames stored.
I wasn't able to buy Charcoal at first either, but it was because the hammer and nails didnt bring up enough. I just sold a lockpick then and it provided me with enough money.
I don't lockpick anyway so i didn't need them (and still don't). :)
You can gather herbs (Sage, ...) in your small village and sell those at any trader. This got me enough money to buy the 10 coal.
Quote from: JudgeDredd on February 19, 2018, 06:49:02 AM
Quote from: Ian C on February 19, 2018, 06:30:00 AM
It is the guy with the cart. Have you met up with the other guys yet?
Yes
Quote from: Ian C on February 19, 2018, 06:30:00 AM
You have to do something first I think before the trade option is available. You should have other quest markers on your map - its one of them.
I didn't think you had to do the tasks in a particular order...other than obviously getting coin - which I did
Quote from: Ian C on February 19, 2018, 06:30:00 AM
Fling the shit, escape the catchpole, meet the guys behind that place, fight that guy, get the tools, sell the tools (to the guy with the cart) then buy the charcoal.
I did it exactly in that order.
Quote from: Ian C on February 19, 2018, 06:30:00 AM
You can also skip cutscenes by pressing escape and also fast-forward through them by pressing space.
Yeah - thankfully I discovered that at least. That helps with the pain of the lack of user saves.
Quote from: Ian C on February 19, 2018, 06:30:00 AM
Tip to everyone: the prologue to the game lasts a few hours so if you think it's on rails - don't worry. Until you get to the city the game hasn't really started...
I thought I was the only one on here that was bored off my tits playing this. I was scared to say anything because - you know - the internet.
The only reason I keep coming back to it is because people have said this - so I'm sticking with it. It doesn't have to be run and gun and lots to do. I know it's not that kind of game. I think my lack of progress (I do not get why this twat won't sell me charcoal) and being stuck in a time loop with a bad save location is what's grinding about it.
JD SOUNDS like a bug. I had a fight with the axe guy. He beat me up. I went back to dad and told him he wouldn't pay up so dad gave me some money I went back to the guy by the cart and bought some charcoal via the trade option .
I never had problems buying from the charcoal guy. And I went straight there after winning the fistfight and finding all three items (axe, hammer, nails), and then selling them.
It does sound like a bug; or, maybe your reputation took a plunge somehow. (Crap on your clothing could do it? -- or someone saw you flinging poo?)
Quote from: JasonPratt on February 19, 2018, 09:49:58 AM
I never had problems buying from the charcoal guy. And I went straight there after winning the fistfight and finding all three items (axe, hammer, nails), and then selling them.
It does sound like a bug; or, maybe your reputation took a plunge somehow. (Crap on your clothing could do it? -- or someone saw you flinging poo?)
Could be that. Thanks JP.
I'll probably start from scratch but I am defo gonna wait for the patch now
'Boed off my tits' = pretty bored eh?
Quote from: Gusington on February 19, 2018, 10:36:53 AM
'Boed off my tits' = pretty bored eh?
aye - a wee bit O0
This "Ginger" fellow is starting to annoy me.
This is one of the first games I can recall in recent memory where I really need to think long and hard about picking a fight and most times choose non confrontational ways of solving problems and achieving goals. It's rare that I'll walk away from any combat, even a fair one, without wounds and injuries and wear or damage to my kit and weapons. I wonder if the world levels up with you. This is something that always bothered me about Elder Scrolls IV. There was never a sense of real progress.
The leveling up with you question is a good one.
And JH walking away from a fight?
WHAT
Yeah, I haven't run into problems yet, but I think I'll wait on some more rounds of bugpatching anyway.
Personally, I'm just glad I found out how to block! -- a super-important skill that I feel pretty sure the game never mentioned how to do. :buck2:
Quote from: JasonPratt on February 19, 2018, 12:52:10 PM
Yeah, I haven't run into problems yet, but I think I'll wait on some more rounds of bugpatching anyway.
Personally, I'm just glad I found out how to block! -- a super-important skill that I feel pretty sure the game never mentioned how to do. :buck2:
The game teaches combat, including blocking and dodging, during the fighting tutorial with Captain Bernard in Rattay.
I have solved the Ginger issue without any problems. I was able to avoid engaging in combat.
Without spoiling too much; the next lead you get takes you to a Priest and there you will experience a truely grand adventure! Its epic! One of the best gaming moments in my recent history! O0 O0
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 19, 2018, 01:35:43 PM
Quote from: JasonPratt on February 19, 2018, 12:52:10 PM
Yeah, I haven't run into problems yet, but I think I'll wait on some more rounds of bugpatching anyway.
Personally, I'm just glad I found out how to block! -- a super-important skill that I feel pretty sure the game never mentioned how to do. :buck2:
The game teaches combat, including blocking and dodging, during the fighting tutorial with Captain Bernard in Rattay.
I did that literally first thing on my to-do list. Maybe I was too awesome at it, because I kept expecting him to teach me to block but he never did. He just up and quits, and I was shocked, thinking, "Well, that was abrupt, but the lesson isn't over. Is it?! Are they going to teach me to block later? Shouldn't that have been, like, the first recap, maybe after stressing movement?"
Maybe I wasn't paying sufficient attention somehow (despite paying enough attention to think I
hadn't been taught to block, and wondering during the fistfight if now I'd be taught.)
Quote from: JasonPratt on February 19, 2018, 04:21:43 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 19, 2018, 01:35:43 PM
Quote from: JasonPratt on February 19, 2018, 12:52:10 PM
Yeah, I haven't run into problems yet, but I think I'll wait on some more rounds of bugpatching anyway.
Personally, I'm just glad I found out how to block! -- a super-important skill that I feel pretty sure the game never mentioned how to do. :buck2:
The game teaches combat, including blocking and dodging, during the fighting tutorial with Captain Bernard in Rattay.
I did that literally first thing on my to-do list. Maybe I was too awesome at it, because I kept expecting him to teach me to block but he never did. He just up and quits, and I was shocked, thinking, "Well, that was abrupt, but the lesson isn't over. Is it?! Are they going to teach me to block later? Shouldn't that have been, like, the first recap, maybe after stressing movement?"
Maybe I wasn't paying sufficient attention somehow (despite paying enough attention to think I hadn't been taught to block, and wondering during the fistfight if now I'd be taught.)
That is really bizarre. Not sure why they would use different triggers for training. If anything, I proved that I'm pretty good at melee combat since I beat the snot out of the guy who owed my father on the first try. Now...archery...that's a totally different story.
I read over at RPG.com that DLC plans to include playing as a woman character. That opens up soooo many possible great but sexist one-liners...... ::) You might want to forgo the 'Child Birth' add-on.
Are you kidding?
ME? Kid? Always, but NEVER about Medieval life experiences. That's my 'Safe Space'. It's on the RPG.com frontpage which unlike some places are only 'mythical' in nature. It's too early for April Fool.
My Bad! It's RPGWatch.com. Sorry for the confuse. Who will be first to play as Lady Mc Groghead? :2funny:
I haven't started this game yet and I understand that the first 4-6 hours is a tutorial; and therefor on rails. How much does the game "open up" after that? Is it more of a Skyrim style mechanic where there is a storyline but you can do all sorts of stuff and work the story when you want? Are there a lot of side missions?
Holy $hit! The Drinking Binge quest with Goodwin the Priest? Most fun I've ever had in an RPG. Fantastic game.
See! I told you! :D
I've now visited Sasau. There's a big monastery there. Impressive building.
Rattay remains the only walled town I've come across. The rest are settlements, farmsteads or camps so far.
Hotfix Patch:
Release Notes for version 1.2.520 FEBRUARY - MARTIN.KLIMA
This is hotfix patch for the following issues:
- Fix for R2 button being non-responsive in combat (only applicable when playing with a controller)
- Fix for issues in quests with Hans Capon
- Fix for quest Ginger in a Pickle
The version displayed in Main menu is 1.2.5
This patch is compatible with all current mods (in as much as these mods are compatible with our game).
KCD devs have implemented the Save Game Patch. It is now Live!
Quote from: trek on February 21, 2018, 10:03:47 AM
KCD devs have implemented the Save Game Patch. It is now Live!
This is the 'Save and Exit functionality' and doesn't add free saves in game (still needs a mod to do that).
What do you mean?
http://steamcommunity.com/app/379430/discussions/0/1693788202021138504/
So patch 1.3 adds Save on Exit function, that means Saviour Schnapps is useless you just exit game if you want save.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/379430/discussions/0/1693788202021829478/
It's adding a "Save & Exit" option for those who may have inconsistent amounts of free time to play this game. Savior schnapps is still the only way to manually save the game.
To add a manual save (without the need for schnapps) you still need to use this mod : https://www.nexusmods.com/kingdomcomedeliverance/mods/1?tab=files
Thanks.
That is pretty hilarious that someone would so vociferously complain about the addition of the save feature. I mean really...if you are that much against it, just don't use it! Duh!
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 21, 2018, 10:48:45 AM
That is pretty hilarious that someone would so vociferously complain about the addition of the save feature. I mean really...if you are that much against it, just don't use it! Duh!
The internet is full of idiots, whose main enjoyment in life is making sure others don't enjoy themselves at all.
I asked before but didn't see an answer.
After the tutorial, does the game "open up" a lot? Is it like Skyrim inasmuch as you can pick and choose various quests to go on when you want? Does it feel like a sandbox open world with tons of places to go and things to do besides the main storyline?
Quote from: mikeck on February 21, 2018, 01:29:49 PM
I asked before but didn't see an answer.
After the tutorial, does the game "open up" a lot? Is it like Skyrim inasmuch as you can pick and choose various quests to go on when you want? Does it feel like a sandbox open world with tons of places to go and things to do besides the main storyline?
I am only a few hours in and would like to hear from others about this. I was initially pretty disappointed by how "on rails" the game was, as I was expecting something a little more like The Guild 1400 with better combat where I could really choose my own way through the world. I was especially disappointed when it seemed like the only way to finish one of the very first tasks you're given [spoiler]all but requires you to murder some guy because you couldn't get a little money out of him on a debt he owes your dad. There are other solutions available, I think, if you have the patience to begin the game looking all over the game map for a needle in a haystack - but when I looked it up online it told me to sneak up on the guy and murder him. So that's what I did.[/spoiler]
Overall, here a few hours in it seems like the game has a story that is on rails, and frequently you are required to immediately perform story tasks, but at other points you have time to kill and the game is wide frickin' open for you to do whatever you please in a large-ish and well-made open world. The on-rail parts are well done, too. I'm starting to like it more and more.
But I hope other folks who have played farther than I chime in on on-rails vs. open world.
^With regard to your spoiler, that's nuts! I had to do no such thing and although I did need to resort to violence, it was the old fashioned way, mano a mano, and everyone lived to talk about it in the tavern that night. I know a lot of people who resolved that quest without resorting to the actions you described, so I think its hard to use that as an example of the game being on rails...
The game is unquestionably story driven. Its not truly a sandbox. Sure there are times you can wander and engage in "side quests", if you will, but I'm finding there is little point or incentive to do so. The story is where the fun is...it is superbly well written and extremely engrossing overall.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 21, 2018, 02:10:28 PM
^With regard to your spoiler, that's nuts! I had to do no such thing and although I did need to resort to violence, it was the old fashioned way, mano a mano, and everyone lived to talk about it in the tavern that night. I know a lot of people who resolved that quest without resorting to the actions you described, so I think its hard to use that as an example of the game being on rails...
The game is unquestionably story driven. Its not truly a sandbox. Sure there are times you can wander and engage in "side quests", if you will, but I'm finding there is little point or incentive to do so. The story is where the fun is...it is superbly well written and extremely engrossing overall.
Heh heh, when I tried a fistfight with him, he kicked my ass. If this had been later on, I might've prevailed, but as pretty much the first thing in the game, he was way too tough for me. Combat in this game is a different animal from what we are used to, that's for sure.
Anyway, maybe I'm wrong about that being a good example of on-rails, but still it's very much on rails early on. It is well done, though, at least most of the time.
But I do find an incentive to wander around. Most of my food early on came from corpses I looted in the aftermath of a battle: the scripted events just don't provide enough (or places to sleep, for that matter). And I make more money finding herbs, etc. than through the plot.
Food hasn't been a problem at all for me. I just eat out of every pot on a bonfire I come across.
Talking about that, you can also use these pots 'to solve problems of overcrowdedness'. 😜
The devs claimed the game would be a medieval life simulator and they succeeded as far as the NPC's are concerned. They sleep, eat, go to work, buy groceries and return home in a daily cycle. Pretty cool.
But you, as the player, are a little disconnected from it all I find unless you force strict roleplaying rules on yourself.
The game isn't Skyrim open, but in between main quests the progress stops if you do as well enabling you to go about and do stuff in the world.
There are sidequests with little stories and Activities which require you to work or gather or haul; you could train skills with this, but is slow and pretty boring.
I have also found a weird bug where if you save before going into an armory, then let yourself get caught and choose to be thrown in jail, then reload. All the items in the armory suddenly are marked as 'Pick Up' instead of 'Steal'.
The story is grand so far though! Very fun. I am 18 hrs in now and nowhere near a conclusion.
Once you get past the opening titles (6 hours in or so) it is open-world. Quests can be delayed as long as they have no time limit. In between quests I've been cheerfully exploring, getting waylaid by bandits, meeting wayfarers, bagging hares and deer, collecting herbs, learning to read and increasing my skills. It's a great game.
The first part of the game is indeed totally on rails, and it stays that way until you get to Rattay. During this period you aren't really going to win many fights, although the one involved in getting your father's debt back is winnable if you take care.
You won't start getting good at combat until you get actual training later. Until that point, opponents are going to easily block you and just knock away your strikes like a cat playing with a mouse.
The key to combat is to be smart about it, even later. When kitted out in armor you can last a while, and when you get your strength higher, the blocks of enemies won't be as effective and you can really start to wear them down. Don't take on too many at once, even later, and don't play it like a crazy hack and slash. You have to time blocks, chain combos, be tactical and pay attention to the stance, armor and weapon kit of your opponent.
It also really pays to get the jump on someone and get them off balance. Much like real combat, the winner is usually the one that gets initiative and lands the first blows.
I wouldn't even call the opening prologue setup "on rails"; no more so than the rest of the plot. You have a number of things to get done, and you can go about them in various orders and through various methods (some of which depend on various orders). Or you can sluff off and wander around exploring. You just don't have many abilities and tools to work with yet.
Anybody else having CTDs since the update today? I can barely get the game loaded. WTF?
No CTDs but bunch of texture slow loading issues, not sure if this is because of how far I am in the campaign with everything chugging along under the hood or from patches.
So, I think I finished the main story. The good news is there is an epilog phase so you can still continue in the open world. There's even a main story to the epilog.
Spoilers........
.....but I'm guessing the big show down with the bald german knight will come in dlc.
Still, the battles that line up in the main story are epic and amazing to play through. My son thought it was the best action moving He'd ever seen, until he realized it was a video game, then he was glued to the screen watching me.
I got a little burnt on all the errand running in the main story, but the battle sequences definitely made up for it.
It was a blast.
....some tips....
Use the save mod.
Level up your sword skills with Bernard. Keep grinding in the practice sword arena til your atleast level 12 to 15. Your defense skill will levelup when your doing this along with other skills.
If you use a shield, a short sword works better.
Make sure you take the time to level your skills in practice, you'll never make it through the battles with out it.
Once you level your skills you can easily take down most opponents, though being out numbered 5 to 1 will still get you killed.
You can find some great weapons and armor off NPCs, just repair them and good as new.
Always keep your armor repaired after fights.
Other notes....
Love the combat system, but for the life of me in the chaos I can never do the special moves. I'm just so powerful now that I spam slash, block, clinch, kick, and slash....does the trick.
Use google when stuck, it got me out of some rage quit moments.
And the monastery missions were boring as hell, but I give the devs points for what they did. I just couldn't spent a day pretending to live the life of a monk, so I charged in stabbed the guy and moved on in 5 min.
Quote from: Skoop on February 21, 2018, 08:53:45 PM
I just couldn't spent a day pretending to live the life of a monk, so I charged in stabbed the guy and moved on in 5 min.
Best sentence you'll read all day ;D ;D ;D
Some hilarious bugs I've found.
Selecting 'use' on an Alchemy table (the witches table) makes you slowly float upwards into the sky, until you exit out of using it and then you fall to your death. Exiting quickly before you get a few feet off the ground will save you.
Getting stuck in a door way. Getting free requires jumping up and down a lot and moving back and forth.
If you're interested in coming across some ridiculous loot, try following the ancient and treasure maps you'll find scattered around. They're pretty easy to figure out, and the loot pretty unique with things such as bits of plate armor, loaded die, good weapons and money.
I tried one map and could never find the treasure.
Quote from: Skoop on February 22, 2018, 07:03:06 PM
I tried one map and could never find the treasure.
Most of them will be around interesting sites, and a large number are in graves.
There are a few youtube videos that show off the locations more accurately, but I was hesitant to use those. It was a bit harder just following the map, but with some trial and error it can be done.
The stuff in the chests can occasionally be a bit OP though.
What exactly did the save patch add? I get no option to save when exiting, or anything. Still the only way to save is with schnapps or by sleeping.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 23, 2018, 06:57:27 AM
What exactly did the save patch add? I get no option to save when exiting, or anything. Still the only way to save is with schnapps or by sleeping.
This patch is announced but isn't released yet. http://steamcommunity.com/app/379430/allnews/
Once released you should see version 1.3.0 appear in the main menu.
^I thought they already released a patch that adds a save upon exit?
^ Trek posted here that the patch went live but this feature will be introduced by the next patch 1.3.0.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/379430/discussions/0/1693788202022479092/
http://steamcommunity.com/app/379430/discussions/0/2860219962097026870/
Current version is 1.2.5.
^Gotcha. Thanks.
Does the "save game mod" seem to work pretty well?
Quote from: mikeck on February 23, 2018, 02:30:35 PM
Does the "save game mod" seem to work pretty well?
Works perfectly fine for me. There are reports some have had issues with it over 300 saves, but I haven't been one of those.
I would highly recommend play with the save mod, sectional lockpicking mod and the bow sight dot mod. All three greatly improve the experience.
A quick thread bump with a warning..
Talking to Timmy's sister in the "My Friend Timmy" quest permanently ends all road random encounters. This cuts out a big chunk of the game. I've put in probably 20 hours since that event and it took me a while to finally realize it. I'm having to scrap everything I've done and go back and finish that quest by avoiding that conversation.
^Jeez that sucks.
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Quote from: SirAndrewD on February 23, 2018, 08:34:38 PM
A quick thread bump with a warning..
Talking to Timmy's sister in the "My Friend Timmy" quest permanently ends all road random encounters. This cuts out a big chunk of the game.
Are you sure? I still get road encounters after doing just that. I fast travelled a short while ago and encountered a wayfarer.
Quote from: Ian C on February 24, 2018, 05:50:07 PM
Are you sure? I still get road encounters after doing just that. I fast travelled a short while ago and encountered a wayfarer.
I'm not sure it hits everyone, but it sure did with me. Even adding the dangerous roads mod didn't fix it.
It seems to be a common but not universal bug based on other forums.
It might have something to do with HOW you solve the Sister conversation. I know I did not convince the bandits to go to Rattay and I had to race them to Timmy. However, it does seem that something in that convo is the trigger for the bug for at least some.
Tip: when about to storm the forest camp with Sir Radzig and he asks if you are ready - make sure you are. There is an option to say 'not yet'.
Level up. Be as trained as you can possibly be. Be well-armed and armored. Have potions.
Those were two of *the* toughest fights I've ever played in an RPG.
Are talking about the one where you kill runt one on one at the end of the fight ? I tried going into it at low level and runt kicked my ass. So I went back a save and grinded skills to level 15 sword and level 10 defense. It was amazing the difference it made. Two overhead slashes to the dome on runt and he was dead. With full high quality armor and high level skills, you become a bad ass. Just don't try to take on 5 guys by yourself, the AI will still kill you in that scenario.
I am still at the very beginning of were the real game started cause of RL interferences
exploring the close surroundings of the water mill and begun the Miller quest...
is there any timelimit on quests ?
(i hope it get mentioned in dialogs and the quest log when there is one)
can i start to explore the (sandbox) world, and try to level up my skills , getting better equipment, and checking for example the treasure maps location and ...continue with the quests (main or side) when i am up to it.
Quote from: Skoop on February 26, 2018, 02:46:39 PM
Are talking about the one where you kill runt one on one at the end of the fight ? I tried going into it at low level and runt kicked my ass. So I went back a save and grinded skills to level 15 sword and level 10 defense. It was amazing the difference it made. Two overhead slashes to the dome on runt and he was dead. With full high quality armor and high level skills, you become a bad ass. Just don't try to take on 5 guys by yourself, the AI will still kill you in that scenario.
I found out the hard way. I'm level 5-7 in most things and there was no way on earth I could beat that part of the game. I must have reloaded about 30 times and couldn't get further. I used an invulnerability cheat to get through it but even then the fighting was ridiculously tough. I'm not going forward with that win though because I've played it straight all the way through the game and my experience has been very hard earned, so I've reverted to an earlier save and will face that scenario once I've leveled up to at least what you said - 15 sword and 10 defense. This has to be *the* best RPG I've played in some respects, but then, I can't compare it either to the Witcher 3 or Skyrim - it's just so different.
The best?? This bodes well.
Quote from: MikeGER on February 26, 2018, 04:31:09 PM
is there any timelimit on quests ?
(i hope it get mentioned in dialogs and the quest log when there is one)
can i start to explore the (sandbox) world, and try to level up my skills , getting better equipment, and checking for example the treasure maps location and ...continue with the quests (main or side) when i am up to it.
There are time limits, but it'll usually be pretty obvious which quests they're on. You have to pay attention to what you're doing. Say, if you get a quest to help sick and dying in the hospital, you'd best not dally, because they're actually sick and dying.
But if you are given an open ended quest to investigate something, and have nothing on the side that tells you a specific time or has some logical goal like "meet X at Y time" or "Race to beat X to Y town and save damsel Z" you're pretty much ok going open world.
If you want a specific point where you can run around safely for a few days, it'll be after a few hours in Rattay, when you're on the Ginger in a Pickle/My Friend Timmy/Nest of Vipers track. There's also a great spot after you've finished Questions and Answers, Pestilence and In God's Hands, but you should not dally until all three of those are in the books. Also make sure you don't complete the very final step Pestilence before Questions and Answers, that supposedly has a showstopper bug that breaks the main questline if you do, though I never experienced it.
thanks for the advice SirAndrewD :)
Quote from: Ian C on February 26, 2018, 05:44:36 PM
Quote from: Skoop on February 26, 2018, 02:46:39 PM
Are talking about the one where you kill runt one on one at the end of the fight ? I tried going into it at low level and runt kicked my ass. So I went back a save and grinded skills to level 15 sword and level 10 defense. It was amazing the difference it made. Two overhead slashes to the dome on runt and he was dead. With full high quality armor and high level skills, you become a bad ass. Just don't try to take on 5 guys by yourself, the AI will still kill you in that scenario.
I found out the hard way. I'm level 5-7 in most things and there was no way on earth I could beat that part of the game. I must have reloaded about 30 times and couldn't get further. I used an invulnerability cheat to get through it but even then the fighting was ridiculously tough. I'm not going forward with that win though because I've played it straight all the way through the game and my experience has been very hard earned, so I've reverted to an earlier save and will face that scenario once I've leveled up to at least what you said - 15 sword and 10 defense. This has to be *the* best RPG I've played in some respects, but then, I can't compare it either to the Witcher 3 or Skyrim - it's just so different.
Reloaded an earlier save and I'm right before the part where I scout the camp, so, I'm going to level up with minor quests, encounters and training before I tackle that again.
This is a big difference to other RPG's where you are given a hint about the level of difficulty of a particular quest. Here, there is none. Thank goodness I kept earlier saves. Tip: keep earlier saves.
Quote from: Gusington on February 26, 2018, 07:17:49 PM
The best?? This bodes well.
Kingdom Come doesn't have the graphics of The Witcher 3, or the polished finish of that and Skyrim, but I'd say it has more realism and immersion. The combat is more than a one button click and requires proper tactical thought. Lots of depth. I assume the game to be rid of bugs over coming months and more polished as time goes by.
I think it's a testament to how good a game is, even if it's full of bugs and glitches and yet it still compels you to play and it's fun.
Me too as far as bug squashing. That's why I am waiting a bit.
I think I'll wait for the next patch also.
I have this quest where you have to patrol with a guy named Nightingale and he offers to play a game of dice.
At the end of the dice game (winning or losing) the game is stuck loading the next part and I can only leave the game using the taskmanager.
I already restarted two times but it's no use and my previous save is a couple hours older so guess I will pass for now.
Re time limits:
Like another poster said, you typically have time unless you are on a quest that specifies a specific time limit. But I think there's an even better indicator. You can hit the "T" key to advance time until a certain point - when you hit "T" and instead of giving you the screen to specify how long you want to advance time, it says something like "You can't delay, there's no time to lose," THAT IS A COMPLETE LIE. What that message really means is that time has been suspended and you can do whatever you like for as long as you feel like it so long as you don't do whatever you need to do to advance the active quest. So ... whenever the game says "don't delay," then ... delay. Take yer time.
Once you realize this, some of the game's most "on-rails" feeling sections open right up. For example, your opening mission to do tasks for dad? Before doing those tasks you can roam around all over town, scour up ALL the herbs in the area (and there are a fair amount), sell them at a store in town and have a bit of a bankroll to start out with.
I'm loving this game. It's the Witcher 3 with better combat and better story-telling. I like Henry as a protagonist a ton better than I liked Geralt, who I have never been able to warm to after 3 Witcher games. Not sure about the replayability, but figuring out all the aspects of the game on a slow and carefully-considered first playthrough is a blast.
'Witcher 3 with better combat and better story telling'?
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Quote from: Gusington on February 27, 2018, 01:46:31 PM
'Witcher 3 with better combat and better story telling'?
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Combat is better, hands down. Not that I've played all the swordfighting games, but I've played a few, and this one is easily the best.
Story-telling is a matter of taste, but I find the characters to be tons better than in Witcher 3: realistic humans instead of stereotypes. You might take that with a grain of salt, because the Witcher world has never really drawn me in. But this does: it seems infinitely more like a real place than anywhere I visited in the Witcher series.
I hit a weird loop bug and there's a post on it here: https://forum.kingdomcomerpg.com/t/stuck-in-conversation-with-the-charlatan/39882
Yes, combat is better than the Witcher 3 and Skyrim. I've rarely had that 'seat of pants' feeling for a game during combat, as if you were actually in the character's shoes.
When the bugs are squashed and the game is polished I have no doubt this will become an all-time classic.
I'm honestly surprised it's as polished as it is considering the semi-indy nature of the game combined with the size and scope of the game Once they get rind of the glaring bugs it's going to be amazing. I'm already loving it even in its current state.
As an aside, echoing something Glen55 said about the early game. Pick ALL the flowers! If you're just getting going and you're in Skalitz, pick every single flower you can. Sell them, pick more.
Herbalism is a very strong early game skill and it really helps you if you level it ASAP. Two of the Herbalist perks give you +2 Charisma when you're carrying 30+ fragrant flowers, and the other levels your Strength while you pick. Also, if you pick some poisonous flowers, you get a +2 permanent vitality boost.
Of course it also gets you early money for selling flowers, and it gets you the herbs needed to turn into alchemy brews that all come in very handy.
Flower Picking Simulator 2018 :P
Love me some Ian C and glen55 right now.
Quote from: mirth on February 27, 2018, 03:32:11 PM
Flower Picking Simulator 2018 :P
You can use those flowers to brew poison and spice up the perpetual stews that are scattered all over the cities in the game.
Makes for very unhappy bandit camps if you can sneak in and get to their wine.
And this is why the combat is better:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgCkhe0g3NU
Really enjoyed my first 4-5 hours with the game. While walking through the countryside, it was one of the few games that imparted in me a sense of wonder. Almost a peaceful zen like feeling, until ambushed by bandits LOL. The graphics even at the lower levels are exceptional. Also I am quite enjoying the story, and going through the codex learning things about Bohemia in 1400.
The bad: load times and cut scenes. While fiddling around with the graphics settings, any change seemed to lead to a 3 minute wait. The cut-scenes would constantly stutter and pause, however, I seem to have fixed that with a program that keeps your CPU cores from running at 100%, which seems to be the reason the cut scenes would stutter. Also the whole save system is just ridiculous in its current state.
Hope this could be a new trend in gaming, where a REALISTIC historic setting is used for first person RPG games. Throughout history, historic events, people , battles, etc. have taken place that most fantasy authors would have a hard time coming up with themselves. Put me in medieval England or Germany as a young squire. or Ancient Rome as a young legionnaire. The possibilities are endless. Actually I think the biggest draw of the whole Assassins Creed series so far, has been the historic settings minus obviously the realism.
So as I of now, I am going to hold off until the new patch drops. It wont be easy however, as this game has really been enjoyable so far.
Quote from: bboyer66 on February 28, 2018, 08:18:39 AM
The bad: load times and cut scenes. While fiddling around with the graphics settings, any change seemed to lead to a 3 minute wait.
Same here. I think it;s got less to do with our system specs and more with the game being optimized.
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Also the whole save system is just ridiculous in its current state.
This will take care of that. Save anytime.
https://www.nexusmods.com/kingdomcomedeliverance/mods/1
I do love the combat. However, it does tend to hew massively in the player's direction once you are over 10's in Strength, Vitality and Defense and unlock some key perks.
It does not take long to hit those scores if you just spend some time training with Bernard in Rattay and hunting bandits/dueling wayfairing Knights.
For example, last night in Rattay, I was caught out with an inadvertently stolen item on my person by a guard, and ended up deciding I was just going to end there for the night by getting in a fight with him and dying to the massive guard response that was sure to come.
I had Henry get out his trusty Warhammer and Sheild and expected to pretty quickly be dealt with.
The fight began and I, well, killed the guard with one riposte.
The whole garrison of course descended on Henry, so I backed him up a bit into the arch of the lower gate, making a good defensive position just to see how many I could take out before death.
After a couple of minutes, the bodies stacked high like cordwood. I eventually pressed Henry forward in a counterattack, hacking down more guards as I worked my way up to the merchant quarter.
At this point Henry had a wake of corpses behind him. Guards came in, engaged for a few blows, but a quick strike to the head or well timed riposte ended them fast.
The Bailiff himself stormed out and gave Henry a bit of a hard time, he landed a flurry of blows. However, his light armor proved no protection from a well handled Warhammer, and he joined his watchmen in their fate of having their heads caved in.
The street was now a charnel house. Citizens stood, locked in horror screaming. Cries of "Murder" filled my ears as they begged for help from the garrison.
However, now the guards were coming to meet a scene akin to an abatoir, and they stood stunned, realizing that they were just the cows come to meet the knocker.
The guards were actually frozen. I'm imagining from a technical bug in which they were unable to process the massacre. But at this point all Henry had to do was come in and deliver a flurry of blows. Some woke out of their shock to fight back. Most didn't. They all met the same end.
Finally archers joined the fray, but in their terror most of their arrows ended up in the backs of their compatriots that I maneuvered in between us. After taking an arrow or two on the shield, they were dispatched as well.
Now most guards were instantly falling to their knees to beg for mercy. There was none.
Finally, I tired of the slaughter. I hit the G key to surrender.
The arresting guard was quite cross at Henry. He said he'd prefer to see Henry strung up but that the best he'd be allowed to give was a few nights in jail.
I decided on a speech check. "Hey, this was all just a big misunderstanding" said Henry, as he picked a piece of skull and brain out of his chainmail, "Why don't we just let this go this one time?"
The guard eyed the gore dripping from Henry's hammer, and fortunately that speech check failed. Henry spent a while in jail, and then was out.
So..yeah. You can get pretty strong.
So instead of going to Bernard is it realistic to level up while completing quick easy missions out in the world?
Quote from: Gusington on February 28, 2018, 03:30:18 PM
So instead of going to Bernard is it realistic to level up while completing quick easy missions out in the world?
It is. However, going to Bernard is very important as well. He's the one that teaches you the combos, and ripostes, and he provides paid skill training. He's pretty necessary.
You'll level your main physical stats very fast doing both or either.
But it is absolutely necessary to go to Bernard before Henry's first battle, and then after in order to unlock all the combat moves.
This is pretty inevitable..
^ :o
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/117175-zero-punctuation-Reviews-Kingdom-Come-Deliverance (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/117175-zero-punctuation-Reviews-Kingdom-Come-Deliverance)
If you find things getting a bit easy, I've found the Immersive Balance mod seems to work well. I've been happy with the results so far. I'm still strong, but not a one shot killing machine anymore.
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on February 28, 2018, 05:00:47 PM
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/117175-zero-punctuation-Reviews-Kingdom-Come-Deliverance (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/117175-zero-punctuation-Reviews-Kingdom-Come-Deliverance)
He's right about the save method. It's stupid. He's not right about combat though - he's doing it wrong. Button mashing will get you killed. There is a method to it and it is a bit difficult at first.
Choose direction -press once -strike. There's a knack to it.
A fun compilation of glitches. Plus Monty Python reference!
Woah - I didn't realize they based Henry's appearance on the actor who voices him, Tom McKay. I always find that freaky in games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50Fe6qzGtkU
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Kingdom Come: Deliverance gets Razorfisted.
And it's a goooood one. :DD >:D
(posted in RP&F section due to NSFW-Language and PC-bashing ^-^ )
http://grogheads.com/forums/index.php?topic=21801.0
How close is the village in the game to real life? Pretty damn close.
I'd have to say this is the most realistic historical open world game...ever?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B1czyobl9Oc
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Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on February 28, 2018, 05:00:47 PM
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/117175-zero-punctuation-Reviews-Kingdom-Come-Deliverance (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/117175-zero-punctuation-Reviews-Kingdom-Come-Deliverance)
He's right about the save method. It's stupid. He's not right about combat though - he's doing it wrong. Button mashing will get you killed. There is a method to it and it is a bit difficult at first.
Choose direction -press once -strike. There's a knack to it.
Just because there's a knack to it, doesn't mean it's a good system. It's annoying. :))
Quote from: mikeck on March 07, 2018, 12:37:47 AM
How close is the village in the game to real life? Pretty damn close.
I'd have to say this is the most realistic historical open world game...ever?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B1czyobl9Oc
Because there's no other historical open world game.
Quote from: jomni on March 07, 2018, 09:14:02 AM
Quote from: mikeck on March 07, 2018, 12:37:47 AM
How close is the village in the game to real life? Pretty damn close.
I'd have to say this is the most realistic historical open world game...ever?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B1czyobl9Oc
Because there's no other historical open world game.
Red Dead Redemption?
Quote from: jomni on March 07, 2018, 09:14:02 AM
Quote from: mikeck on March 07, 2018, 12:37:47 AM
How close is the village in the game to real life? Pretty damn close.
I'd have to say this is the most realistic historical open world game...ever?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B1czyobl9Oc
Because there's no other historical open world game.
Dammit
Quote from: glen55 on March 07, 2018, 11:15:29 AM
Quote from: jomni on March 07, 2018, 09:14:02 AM
Quote from: mikeck on March 07, 2018, 12:37:47 AM
How close is the village in the game to real life? Pretty damn close.
I'd have to say this is the most realistic historical open world game...ever?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B1czyobl9Oc
Because there's no other historical open world game.
Red Dead Redemption?
By Fire and Sword?
Quote from: JasonPratt on March 07, 2018, 03:36:03 PM
Quote from: glen55 on March 07, 2018, 11:15:29 AM
Quote from: jomni on March 07, 2018, 09:14:02 AM
Quote from: mikeck on March 07, 2018, 12:37:47 AM
How close is the village in the game to real life? Pretty damn close.
I'd have to say this is the most realistic historical open world game...ever?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B1czyobl9Oc
Because there's no other historical open world game.
Red Dead Redemption?
By Fire and Sword?
Yep. and mount and blade
Out now.
Release Notes for version 1.3
The game now has Save and Exit feature.
Saving is much more robust and saves won't get corrupted even if the game crashes while saving.
Performance improved
LoD switching tweaked, reducing pop-in and improving texture streaming.
Stuttering in some areas reduced.
Slightly smoother framerate on Vsync 30. (Consoles and some PCs)
Improved lockpicking
New interface design makes it much easier to hold the sweet spot while turning the lock.
Easy and Very Easy trunks are now easier to lockpick when playing with controller. (Mouse difficulty unchanged)
Improved pickpocketing
You will no longer get caught if you stop at the beginning of the minigame. (Unless someone sees you)
The risk indicator is now much more precise. When green, you are sure not to get caught.
Alchemy bench will no longer shoot you into the air.
The last quest with Lord Capon is now visible on the map when he is ready to assign it to you.
Guards won't frisk you so often.
Your horse shouldn't get stuck when jumping fences.
Horse items are cleaned along with player items in bathhouses.
You can see when looking at a bed whether it will save your game.
You can sleep on beds without having to sit down first.
Levelling up stealth by sneaking past enemies is more consistent.
Sneaking past sleeping NPCs is now easier.
Some easily accessible trunks with extremely good loot have been removed.
Cave mushrooms can now be found in many other damp places.
You can no longer autocook potions that you haven't brewed by hand at least once before.
German voiceovers will no longer cut off in mid-sentence in cutscenes.
Late game player strength tweaked
Some combat perks that were unintentionally overpowered were tuned down.
Weapons scale less with high-level stats.
It should now be much harder to kill high-level enemies with one hit. (Unless they're helmetless. Stupid Runt...)
Other combat system tweaks
"Untargeted attack" exploit fixed.
Enemy combat archery AI improved.
Guards now react to combat more aggressively.
And many other minor tweaks.
(PC only) It is now possible to select different types of anti-aliasing.
(PC only) It is now possible to set VSync to 30 or 60, or disable it completely.
(PC only) Steam Cloud saving enabled.
And over 300 other fixes in various quests.
Turkish subtitles added.
Nice.
"Alchemy bench will no longer shoot you into the air." -- now the realistic immersion will be broken! :knuppel2:
^HA!
I see that the savegame mod has been updated to work with patch 1.3.1. So my question is that since now the vanilla game allows you to save anytime (upon exit), why do I need the savegame mod. Does the mod allow me to save a game, keep playing and then go back and reload an old save ? (Vs only saving upon exit)
Quote from: mikeck on March 12, 2018, 07:26:59 PM
I see that the savegame mod has been updated to work with patch 1.3.1. So my question is that since now the vanilla game allows you to save anytime (upon exit), why do I need the savegame mod. Does the mod allow me to save a game, keep playing and then go back and reload an old save ? (Vs only saving upon exit)
The savegame mod lets you save and continue, with no exit. It just removes the Schnapps requirement. So, in answer to your second question, yes, it lets you save, continue, and if you choose, reload.
Quote from: SirAndrewD on March 12, 2018, 07:36:38 PM
Quote from: mikeck on March 12, 2018, 07:26:59 PM
I see that the savegame mod has been updated to work with patch 1.3.1. So my question is that since now the vanilla game allows you to save anytime (upon exit), why do I need the savegame mod. Does the mod allow me to save a game, keep playing and then go back and reload an old save ? (Vs only saving upon exit)
The savegame mod lets you save and continue, with no exit. It just removes the Schnapps requirement. So, in answer to your second question, yes, it lets you save, continue, and if you choose, reload.
Great. Thank you
I'll be completely honest here - and I'll cower in the corner here waiting on the backlash - I uninstalled this yesterday with only 3 hours under my belt.
It absolutely didn't hit a chord with me at all. I wasn't going into it expecting The Witcher or Skyrim - I had done some reading up on it - but I really, really didn't expect it to be that boring. I completely and wholeheartedly agreed with most of The Escapist review.
I'm a firm believer in first impressions. Whether that's selling your house, buying one, going for a job interview - or playing a game. It has to grab you by the balls and shake you around a bit to get that saliva flowing in the mouth :dreamer:
As I only played 3 hours, didn't get out the village and didn't get to complete "the 6 hour tutorial" (not my estimate on the length of the tutorial)...so it might be too soon - but there's games far more deserving of my attention.
Something else that might get me a battering is I wasn't a massive fan of Skyrim either :hide:
You lot go forth and multiply have a good time with the game :notworthy:
Well you should play what you enjoy, not what others tell you to enjoy. \m/
Quote from: Yskonyn on March 14, 2018, 04:41:50 AM
Well you should play what you enjoy, not what others tell you to enjoy. \m/
I just saw the positive feedback and read a couple of articles and thought "What the hell". I was well aware of the slow pace - I just didn't think I would be that put off by it. Turns out, I was wrong L:-)
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Quote from: Yskonyn on March 14, 2018, 04:41:50 AM
Well you should play what you enjoy, not what others tell you to enjoy. \m/
I just saw the positive feedback and read a couple of articles and thought "What the hell". I was well aware of the slow pace - I just didn't think I would be that put off by it. Turns out, I was wrong L:-)
By all accounts, after the tutorial it really picks up and opens up. Don't you want to get through the prologue before you shelve it?
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Quote from: Yskonyn on March 14, 2018, 04:41:50 AM
Well you should play what you enjoy, not what others tell you to enjoy. \m/
I just saw the positive feedback and read a couple of articles and thought "What the hell". I was well aware of the slow pace - I just didn't think I would be that put off by it. Turns out, I was wrong L:-)
By all accounts, after the tutorial it really picks up and opens up. Don't you want to get through the prologue before you shelve it?
Also, there's more of a learning curve than for most RPGs, which slows things down at the start.
Once you get past the learning curve and the intro, the game pretty much has the pace that you want. Yeah, it's never going to be Serious Sam, but it's as fast-paced as other modern RPGs if you opt to use fast travel and bypass sidequests.
But if you're looking for relentless action, maybe it's not the game for you. The charm of the game is that it makes you feel like you are really there in a real world and Henry has a real life. Real life does not consist of relentless action. You can speed things up if you want to, but I think some of the best parts of the game are wandering the countryside checking out stuff that looks checkoutable, or finding an hour or two to sit down on your bed and work on leveling your reading skill. If you aren't looking for that kind of experience, there's no need to play 30 hours to figure it out on your own.
Honestly, I think JD made the right call for his gaming tastes, based on what I know. Yes, the game picks up in some ways, but it never ends up being more of an action based adventure over a medieval life simulator. i really don't think I see JD ever truly loving KCD...that's not a knock on his gaming tastes, or on the game.
I didn't know JD did not like Skyrim.
My world, it turns.
Unless that's just the cold medicine.
Different strokes for different folks, Gus. (Read my sig. ;))
It's alright - Skyrim, in my mind, is one of those 'something for everyone' games. So is Kingdom Come. Maybe not.
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Quote from: Greybriar on March 14, 2018, 01:10:04 PM
Different strokes for different folks, Gus. (Read my sig. ;))
Except for N64 Superman. I do not think you'll find a single person that will claim that game has a single redeeming quality.
Unless you are comparing it to a steaming pile of shit on a 100* day
I'd take the pile of shit over N64 Superman.
I don't think you'll find many people to defend the E.T. Atari game either. I played that game as a kid. It was the first time I learned a video game could totally suck.
Quote from: mirth on March 14, 2018, 01:56:55 PM
I don't think you'll find many people to defend the E.T. Atari game either. I played that game as a kid. It was the first time I learned a video game could totally suck.
Greatest game of all time.
Quote from: SirAndrewD on March 14, 2018, 03:38:55 PM
Quote from: mirth on March 14, 2018, 01:56:55 PM
I don't think you'll find many people to defend the E.T. Atari game either. I played that game as a kid. It was the first time I learned a video game could totally suck.
Greatest game of all time.
You're drunk.
Quote from: mirth on March 14, 2018, 01:56:55 PM
I don't think you'll find many people to defend the E.T. Atari game either. I played that game as a kid. It was the first time I learned a video game could totally suck.
At least the ET game looked like it belonged on the technology of the era.
Superman looked like an original NES game.
That ET game was pretty bad graphics-wise, even by the standards of the day. And the game play was just atrocious.
It was pixels. and not even a lot of them.
I've had ass-wiped toilet paper look better than the Superman game.
Trust me, I'm not trying to defend N64 Superman.
Fair enough.
I remember ET in that vague little kid way in that it existed but I do not recall if I actually played it.
Meanwhile in Bohemia...
Isn't there a whole documentary based on the Atari ET game story? Apparently, it sucked so bad that Atari took all the copies of the game and buried them in a hidden landfill somewhere.
^Yeah it's on Netflix.
I played the ET game when I was ~9 and even then I said to myself 'there has to be something better' and began to play Pitfall instead.
It was a lot better.
And wasn't ET something $60 when it came out? Damn, there was some pissed-off people back then. :pullhair: Glad I wasn't one of them.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on March 14, 2018, 12:55:46 PM
Honestly, I think JD made the right call for his gaming tastes, based on what I know. Yes, the game picks up in some ways, but it never ends up being more of an action based adventure over a medieval life simulator. i really don't think I see JD ever truly loving KCD...that's not a knock on his gaming tastes, or on the game.
Yep - I'm just not into it I'm afraid.
I need to be grabbed by a game right off the bat - by story, character, gameplay. Not necessarily looking for hack and slash - if the story is good enough or the character is interesting, it'll hook me. I wasn't grabbed by a single thing in the game.
I was exactly the same when everyone and their dog were trying to get me to read the Harry Potter books.
I gave the first one a spin and got a dozen pages in thought it was the most boring pap I'd ever read. It's obviously not pap for a few billion people but it just didn't click with me, doesn't appeal to me. Even watching the movies does nothing for me. I don't understand why it's so popular - and I am HEAVILY into Sci-Fi and Fantasy / RPG stuff too.
However, that tutorial in Kingdom Come - it is a bit dry and uninspiring. I can understand why it's tough to get past, but I'd say get past it and give the actual game a try.
I have never seen one Harry Potter movie or read any of the books. And I was a dork way before chicks thought it was cool.
See I feel the same way with pure stealth games. That they are more tedious than exhilarating. I don't mind aspects of stealth in games but sitting for 5 minutes to move 100ft to do it again is not fun to me.
To each their own.
I can understand that, even though I love stealth games.
Yeah, I loved stealth-ing in Skyrim to put a dwarven arrow into some poor slob Bandit's skull from out of the dark. And watch him fall.... slowly....to the ground.
Well I'm really enjoying the game. I'm still in the tutorial in Talmberg. I'm trying to get the armor so I can sneak out. I don't think I would want the whole game to be like the tutorial since there are tons of cut scenes and it s on rails. But I know it opens up. But I really like just exploring the world and being immersed. I dont need the action so I suspect I will really like this one
It is an amazing game. You could spent months roaming the world and doing all the side missions. I kinda raced through it in a week because I was so hooked on the main story and the pitched battles it opened up.
^Did you get to the end of the main story?
Ok guys...question.
During the Prologue whole in Talmberg I stole a horse. After riding out toward Rattay as ordered I came up on a village where everyone was dead. It goes to a cut scene and when it gets done, I didn't have my horse. I read online that is supposed to happen. You have to move to Rattay on foot.
Now after all the crap you have to do and you wake up in the Millers house in Rattay, you can find all the stuff you had in your chest (money, armor, herbs, etc)
So my question is: Can I recover my horse as well? If not, how do I get a new one to go questing?
Quote from: mikeck on March 16, 2018, 12:55:30 PM
Ok guys...question.
During the Prologue whole in Talmberg I stole a horse. After riding out toward Rattay as ordered I came up on a village where everyone was dead. It goes to a cut scene and when it gets done, I didn't have my horse. I read online that is supposed to happen. You have to move to Rattay on foot.
Now after all the crap you have to do and you wake up in the Millers house in Rattay, you can find all the stuff you had in your chest (money, armor, herbs, etc)
So my question is: Can I recover my horse as well? If not, how do I get a new one to go questing?
Follow the main story for a bit. You'll get a Horse after you enter Sir Radzig's service and go to the town of Neuhof. It's at that point you're pressed less to follow things on a schedule and can start open world exploration.
^This right here is the exact pinpoint I have been waiting to see! I can now begin playing with confidence.
Quote from: Gusington on March 16, 2018, 01:39:31 PM
^This right here is the exact pinpoint I have been waiting to see! I can now begin playing with confidence.
You'll get a point where it's obvious you've been dispatched to do things on your own. Follow Bernard to Neuhof and follow his orders to the letter when that quest starts. Make sure you report back to him regularly about your findings as the quest progresses.
After the first few steps Bernard and Radzig will give you leave to start pursuing the quest on your own. Don't run off prior to that.
Are our RPGuardian Angel?
Quote from: Gusington on March 16, 2018, 02:33:23 PM
Are our RPGuardian Angel?
I sure am purdy like one. O:-)
Now it's weird.
Quote from: SirAndrewD on March 16, 2018, 01:16:33 PM
Quote from: mikeck on March 16, 2018, 12:55:30 PM
Ok guys...question.
During the Prologue whole in Talmberg I stole a horse. After riding out toward Rattay as ordered I came up on a village where everyone was dead. It goes to a cut scene and when it gets done, I didn't have my horse. I read online that is supposed to happen. You have to move to Rattay on foot.
Now after all the crap you have to do and you wake up in the Millers house in Rattay, you can find all the stuff you had in your chest (money, armor, herbs, etc)
So my question is: Can I recover my horse as well? If not, how do I get a new one to go questing?
Follow the main story for a bit. You'll get a Horse after you enter Sir Radzig's service and go to the town of Neuhof. It's at that point you're pressed less to follow things on a schedule and can start open world exploration.
Ok. I have Entered his service but I just finished training and beating that little lords skull in after I whipped him in archery. On my way to be a city guard. Think I might steal one
On another note, I see in the steam forum that many have a bug where there are no random bandit encounters anymore. Have you Guys?
Quote from: mikeck on March 16, 2018, 06:39:34 PM
Ok. I have Entered his service but I just finished training and beating that little lords skull in after I whipped him in archery. On my way to be a city guard. Think I might steal one
On another note, I see in the steam forum that many have a bug where there are no random bandit encounters anymore. Have you Guys?
I wouldn't steal one. The hit to reputation is pretty bad and you're going to get one "Pebbles" for free at the start of the Neuhof quest. You have to finish out the small city guard portion and go hunting with Capon after. The entire point of the hunting with Capon portion is that you have no horse, you get to run along side his like the peasant you are.
You can actually break a lot of questlines if you don't follow the road to the Neuhof quest called "The Hunt Begins". It's more or less where the full story launches.
You get Pebbles right after, and you stop getting quests that require you to be at X at Y time for a bit.
Yes, you can break random encounters if you talk to Timmy's Sister in "My friend Timmy" quest which is off the "Hunt Begins" line. I'm not sure 1.3 fixed this, but it happened to me.
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Quote from: mikeck on March 16, 2018, 06:39:34 PM
Ok. I have Entered his service but I just finished training and beating that little lords skull in after I whipped him in archery. On my way to be a city guard. Think I might steal one
On another note, I see in the steam forum that many have a bug where there are no random bandit encounters anymore. Have you Guys?
I wouldn't steal one. The hit to reputation is pretty bad and you're going to get one "Pebbles" for free at the start of the Neuhof quest. You have to finish out the small city guard portion and go hunting with Capon after. The entire point of the hunting with Capon portion is that you have no horse, you get to run along side his like the peasant you are.
You can actually break a lot of questlines if you don't follow the road to the Neuhof quest called "The Hunt Begins". It's more or less where the full story launches.
You get Pebbles right after, and you stop getting quests that require you to be at X at Y time for a bit.
Yes, you can break random encounters if you talk to Timmy's Sister in "My friend Timmy" quest which is off the "Hunt Begins" line. I'm not sure 1.3 fixed this, but it happened to me.
Hmmmm. So your saying I should kill Timmy and his sister to steal a horse. Got it.
Quote from: mikeck on March 16, 2018, 11:02:01 PM
Hmmmm. So your saying I should kill Timmy and his sister to steal a horse. Got it.
Killing Timmy is entirely optional! However, you'll already have a horse by "My Friend Timmy".
I might recommend that you cheat when you get the quest option to go talk to Timmy's Sister, and find the location of the Bandit/Cuman garrison yourself though. I don't know if they fixed that bug that kills random encounters. I had to redo about 20 hours of game play to rectify that bug.
OK, I'm trying here but I want to explore the open world but I can't seem to hop off the rails the story have me on. I thought that once you got to Rattay the tutorial/prologue ends and things open up. Nope. Then I'm told once I go on the hunt with Capon things open up. Well as much as I love the stone that three hours of corn time back. That's a long damn hunt. And once I get back then I told him I must proceed with the captain and his men to another town. Please tell me after this mission I can finally go wander around and look at stuff
I love this phone but I want to actually play it rather than just moving through a story
The Prey, which is the long hunt quest with Capon is where things cease to be on rails. The Hunt Begins is the next chapter. As long as you follow Bernard's orders through the first part of The Hunt Begins, the world opens up as that quest is where he gives you leave to investigate the incident at Neuhof yourself.
You'll be fully off rails as of the Ginger in a Pickle quest, which starts as part of Hunt Begins.
So, you're in chapter 8 right now. You just need to make it through chapter 9.
Do not run off early on Hunt Begins. It'll break the main quest badly for you, and it's by designer intent. Bernard will execute that quest without you if you don't follow his orders, and that's not a good thing.
There is a caveat though, you can't get full combat training until after Henry's first major battle. So you'll suck in combat until then. Not having access to riposte sucks.
Ok. So I investigated and activated "ginger in a pickle". Are you saying that I don't need to go search for him immediately?
Quote from: mikeck on March 18, 2018, 09:45:26 PM
Ok. So I investigated and activated "ginger in a pickle". Are you saying that I don't need to go search for him immediately?
You can go off script at that point, yeah. It'll be hard, Henry sucks at that point, but I spent a couple of hours doing straight exploration and a few side quests when I hit Ginger in a Pickle.
You'll better equipped to do it after you finish Ginger in a Pickle/My Friend Timmy and find the Bandit camp and take it out in Nest of Vipers, but it's totally doable to get your feet wet and look around the world. I did so myself, but quickly realized that I was getting my butt kicked really badly and went back on the main quest till I passed through the first battle.
A tough thing about the open world early, and why actually spending money on horses, not stealing them is a good thing, is that low level/stolen horses have no courage or loyalty to you. So when you're in a fight and your out of your element, and try to flee, they'll throw you and you'll get hosed. That becomes one of your limiting factors before the first battle, you're awful at fighting, and random encounters can sometimes be impossible to escape against enemies that can wreck you in two or three hits.
After the first battle you can keep going back to the bandit camp and looting it rotten. That'll be a huge source of cash for you and give you a lot of open world stuff to do, finding merchants and getting good money, 3-4k to buy and outfit, which can lead to investment in to a good horse (I recommend Al Buraq in Neuhof).
Oh, and one of the good things about the Ginger in a Pickle/My friend Timmy line is that most of the quests from there on out are quests that require you to explore. Each of them are kind of guiding you to the new places and giving you something to do once you get there. I found it a really good way to start doing the open world while still following the main quest.
Ok. I'm going to the different charcoal burner camps trying to find ginger
You've actually missed some chances to go off script already. For example, when you were supposed to meet the soldier guy to do guard duty with at a certain time of day, it doesn't have to be THAT day. You can take your time. Explore around, pick flowers for money, herbalism skill, and STRENGTH (yes, take the herbalism perk that adds strength when you pick flowers, it's a must). Come back and meet that guy when you feel like it. You should have some kind of armor and weapon already, so if you're lucky a weak bandit in regular clothes with a cudgel will jump you and you should be able to win if you have even the basics of combat down. Winning battles is very profitable.
It seems that whenever you don't have an immediate task and nobody has told you you have to hurry because X is waiting on you, your time is your own.
Well I was enjoying wooooing Teresa, and I finally banged her. The problem was that after banging her, everything involving her was over. It is a clear example where this game felt rushed and unfinished, as their is a lot of wasted potential with Teresa. Marriage, kids , etc, guess we will have to wait for an expansion.
Some missions are more time sensitive then others, as I found out while putting off finding a poison cure for a patient. Right before I found the priest to get the cure, I guess the patient died, not allowing me to finish the mission.
Highlight of the game for me so far was walking down a trail in the forest, and seeing a broken wagon in the middle of the trail. Looking over the area I noticed a guy dressed like an Elf hiding in the brush next to the wagon. When I confronted the little Elf dude, I was attacked !!!! It was a Cuman. Of course I whipped his ass and took all his equipment.
The treasure maps have been really challenging, as well as fun.
Also I am still just enjoying riding around the countryside. It's scenic, relaxing, and reminds you how much better off the earth is without so many damn people.
So you met a chick, had sex with her and then never did anything with her again....and that's unrealistic? Not following
I bet he told her, "I'll call you tomorrow". ;D
:2funny:
Quote from: mikeck on March 20, 2018, 09:33:49 AM
So you met a chick, had sex with her and then never did anything with her again....
But when they reappear they usually look like this:
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Yeah, the Theresa bit was disappointing. After you bed her, she has no interest in carrying things on.
Ah well, there's the Princess in Talmberg that you can also woo. I haven't done that yet, but I imagine the end result is the same.
Already banged her as well. She is even worse than Teresa, no dialog options at all after her epic shagging !!!!!!!!!!
Boyer puts a whole new meaning to Kingdom Come.
My problem always was getting them to STOP talking after epic shagging.
Speaking of shagging in KCD. You should take the Troubadour perk in speech when it's available. You get to use the bathhouse's "extra services" for free. That means you get to have your armor cleaned, and get the bathmaid's extra attention, which grants you 100% Energy and Nourishment and a +2 Charisma boost for no cost.
Damn, a bathmaid that gives you energy and nourishment? She must be able to use both hands. :clap:
Quote from: Sir Slash on March 20, 2018, 11:00:11 PM
Damn, a bathmaid that gives you energy and nourishment? She must be able to use both hands. :clap:
Don't think it's her hands she's using.
Are you kidding about the troubadour perk?
:dreamer:
Sounds more like a 'trouser-dore' perk. :2funny:
:-[
Quote from: Gusington on March 21, 2018, 11:43:41 AM
Are you kidding about the troubadour perk?
Nope. It makes this free...
:bd:
Whoa. They need to work on the hawt womenz perk.
Damn. I thought the chicks in Mass Effect: Andromeda were uggos.
A new low!
This game is gonna be crazy when they finish the inevitable game of thrones mod'
So, does anyone know if the tip for banging bathmaids was the usual 15% like for meals in Medieval times or was more required? And did you have to bring your own soap?
I always tip 20% if warranted and always bring my own soap.
Good man.
It aint easy sometimes.
Tell me about it. I can't get away with anything when the grandkids are around. #:-)
If you can't be a haughty scamp when the grandkids are around then why have them around?
They are old enough to come unsummoned now. And they see everything. And TELL everything. They are after all related to my wife.
I have been playing nothing else besides KC:D the last week and 1/2. About 3 hours a night. That's more game time than I've put in to all my other games
Combined for the year probably. It's an amazing game and the combat system is incredible
How many hours total? How far in to the story do you estimate you are? And, finally, did you enjoy Skyrim?
Quote from: mikeck on March 26, 2018, 11:50:50 PM
I have been playing nothing else besides KC:D the last week and 1/2. About 3 hours a night. That's more game time than I've put in to all my other games
Combined for the year probably. It's an amazing game and the combat system is incredible
I love the game, but it seems you eventually kind of run out of challenges except for pushing ahead on the main plot.
I want expansions. I want the world to be much larger. More tough enemies, more good loot. I want to be able to buy a house and hire servants. Also, I think maybe Henry's progress can be slowed down a bit - once you figure out to play, it's not so difficult to deck him out in full plate with a fancy weapon and potions. Slowing down his progress + a bigger world and I could play this game for a long time.
Quote from: Gusington on March 27, 2018, 09:17:05 AM
How many hours total? How far in to the story do you estimate you are? And, finally, did you enjoy Skyrim?
It sure how many hours but I'm more than halfway through. Off to find Timmy. I did jump off the main quest some time ago to go find treasures, Hunt bandits and improve fighting skills. I did enjoy Skyrim although I lost interest after awile. I prefer the realistic world vs fantasy
In reference to Glen's comments below...I liked being able to buy a house in Skyrim but honestly, I hardly did anything in it. Wasn't a huge thing. If you think Henry is too overpowered in his plate armor, then try jus using a gambesom and hauberk. If you think he levels too quick in combat, train less with a Capt Bernard. It's your game and you can play it how you want.
It's very immersive and once you get decent at it, the fighting is a blast
^Thanks. I'm just curious what the average time is that people put in before they think they get too overpowered.
Quote from: Gusington on March 27, 2018, 05:43:25 PM
^Thanks. I'm just curious what the average time is that people put in before they think they get too overpowered.
I'd say I'm at the end of the middle and I am about As strong as I need to be. I just had a challenging fight with a camp of three bandit but I almost did it. But generally I can handle whatever I have to. I think it's important to say though that how overpowered you become is contingent upon how much you train with Captain Bernard really. If you think you're becoming too strong too fast then stopped training so much. It's an RPG after all what your character how you think he would go in real life.
I do think though that from the weight – mid game on the enemy should really scale to become more difficult and more of a challenge. It's definitely still fun though and taking down four or five enemy is tough.
There are some really solid balance mods out there that even out the curve a little. Immersive Balance seems the most, well, balanced. Dark Times is popular but is more just an across the board nerf bat than actual attempt to balance things.
I would love to see the next iteration of this game set earlier in the Middle Ages...perhaps in England during the "Anarchy" of the mid 12th century. First, the era and location provides plenty of intrigue and duplicity. But secondly....tournaments! I want to take part in tournaments. Not your 15th century jousting. But William Marshall 12th century tourneys where hundreds of knights fought against eachother (on teams) and sought to disable and capture other knights. By doing so, they could get money ransominh knights or taking their equipment as payment. I think that would allow for a more authentic training system than Capt Bernard.
Besides, I generally find the high Middle Ages more intriguing.
Nevertheless, I really hope warhorse decides to make a sequel set in a earlier period. This is a game I've waited a long time for and Mount and Blade doesn't quite scratch that itch
I'm just the opposite...late middle ages/renaissance I like....an Italian setting would be awesome.
Quote from: Gusington on March 27, 2018, 05:43:25 PM
^Thanks. I'm just curious what the average time is that people put in before they think they get too overpowered.
My complaint isn't really so much that I'm over-powered--maybe a bit, but I can live with that--it's that I found it too easy to get all the best gear. I still had to learn how to fight, and I think that learning curve keeps on going into the endgame.
But herbalism solves all of Henry's financial woes a little too easily. You don't even have to budget time for it, really, because you usually have a couple of hours to kill between the time you travel home and bedtime and/or between the time you get up and the time the stores open. That plus bandit loot and it didn't take me long enough to reach the point where there was nothing else in the stores for me and I was hoarding groschen. There's side loot but it's very rare to find a piece better than store loot.
What I really want, though, is more game. Don't get me wrong, not saying I didn't get my money's worth. Just saying I got more money where that came from if I can get more game for it.
You're done?
That's what she said.
No, I didn't finish the plot, but I uncovered the whole map, shopped in all the stores, and read about the treasure chest loot in online guides.
How many hours?
Quote from: Gusington on March 29, 2018, 12:47:52 PM
How many hours?
Haha, Steam says I've played the game 161 hours. But I've restarted twice and also have a tendency to leave the game on when I'm not playing, so I don't think that number bears great meaning. I am otherwise not really able to estimate, but like I said, I got my money's worth.
Cool, now I know I will too.
New patch 1.4 is out.
Quote from: mikeck on March 29, 2018, 04:18:35 PM
New patch 1.4 is out.
And 26GB worth of an update:(
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on March 29, 2018, 04:52:34 PM
Quote from: mikeck on March 29, 2018, 04:18:35 PM
New patch 1.4 is out.
And 26GB worth of an update:(
Yeah.
Are they out of their g-damned mind?!
~26GB download for a graphical hotfix???
General Patch Notes :
New Hair and Beard mechanics.
Customize your style in bathhouses and gain extra charisma with freshly cut hair.
Unarmed mercy kill added for a more "subtile" way to solve quests.
Real Easter eggs added. The hunt for the golden egg can begin!
Traditional Czech Easter-themed weapon to be found, called "Pomlázka".
Resurrection day is upon us! Some NPCs that have died due to the physics glitches have risen from their graves.
Fixed problems with the "Mightier than the Sword" quest related to the scribe.
Rattay archery competition works on advanced difficulty.
Fixed save issue for the "House of God" quest.
Another 200 major bugs fixed
Free PC DLC - HD Texture and Audio Pack
As a special treat, we're releasing the first free DLC - HD Texture & Audio Pack for PC which together enhance the visual and audio experience of Kingdom Come: Deliverance. HD Textures boost the overall graphics of Kingdom Come: Deliverance to create an ever more lifelike look at 1403 Bohemia. HD Audio is available for all three voiceover languages (English, German and French) and enhances all in game voiceovers and sounds.
Quote from: Tpek on March 29, 2018, 05:10:11 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on March 29, 2018, 04:52:34 PM
Quote from: mikeck on March 29, 2018, 04:18:35 PM
New patch 1.4 is out.
And 26GB worth of an update:(
Yeah.
Are they out of their g-damned mind?!
~26GB download for a graphical hotfix???
It's not 26 gigs of additional material. Apparently they added some high resolution graphics to replace some old ones. Very "memory heavy"
I'm running my 1.3 game on patch 1.4 and so far so good EXCEPT: when I went to a bathhouse and asked for a new haircut, I selected the option of the cut I wanted and then all the text options disappeared. Only thing on the screen was Henry looking like a moron. Had to Ctrl-alt-dlt out. That may because I didn't start a new game
On the issue of being overpowered. I had recovered "St George's" longsword from a treasure map. It is THE best sword in the game. Against mid level to weaker bandits with mail or gambisons I couldn't even combo since after I hit them once (maybe twice) they fall on the ground and give up. So to remedy that, I bought the "fear not" longsword from an armored (a mid level longsword) and use that.
There are ways to adopt since honestly, it's VERY unrealistic that some guy is going to put the greatest sword ever made inside a wooden trunk by a tree and then sell a treasure map.
I find that progression is more authentic and balancing far better if you don't use any special items you find in chests AND, limit your plate armor, gauntlets, and such to stuff you buy. Those
Types of armor tender to be fitted to the purchaser so picking some up a dead guy likely wouldn't work.
Honestly, when I saw that 26 Gig patch taking up four hours of download time, I uninstalled the game. I'm not playing it right now anyway, and if I'm going to be redownloading the dang thing every once in a while anyway, I'll wait until the patches settle down and download it ONCE. (...well, once more.)
Quote from: JasonPratt on March 30, 2018, 01:30:50 PM
Honestly, when I saw that 26 Gig patch taking up four hours of download time, I uninstalled the game. I'm not playing it right now anyway, and if I'm going to be redownloading the dang thing every once in a while anyway, I'll wait until the patches settle down and download it ONCE. (...well, once more.)
Not sure why it would take that long! Mine took about 20-30minutes. Nevertheless, why not just download it before work or bed and it will be ready when you come back.
This game is phenomenal. I don't think I've found a game this immersive since Baldurs Gate 2. I've only had one crash and i haven't had any of the quest bugs others have. No issues
Yeah my dl time was also about 20 minutes.
I have a 2mb/sec download limit, more usually 1.7-1.9 in practice. And while my computer is very quiet for a 70 lb monster, it's still got a bunch of fans and things running, so it keeps me half awake at night.
I could run it while at work, and I do for other projects (like uploading videos), but if I'm not even playing the game at this time, then why bother? I'll just give the devs some time to stomp more bugs and come back to it later.
It's now discounted on Steam. Did anyone finish this already?
Didn't start yet 😳
Quote from: jomni on May 22, 2018, 07:43:53 PM
It's now discounted on Steam. Did anyone finish this already?
I never finished, but I played through til almost the end twice. (Not really a finisher.)
Now I crave DLC and expansions. Great game.
Yeah, didn't finish here either. I intend to though. A break was needed after the release of Far Cry 5 and Battletech. It's on the list for later.
Are there any plans for expansions?
Quote from: Gusington on May 23, 2018, 06:37:50 AM
Are there any plans for expansions?
Yes,
DLC roadmap
https://twitter.com/WarhorseStudios/status/999241144893665281
Holy crap - thanks Grim!
Yeah but no one is even finishing the original.
Quote from: jomni on May 23, 2018, 08:33:23 PM
Yeah but no one is even finishing the original.
What is this "finishing?" I have little comprehension of this concept as it relates to games.
As it applied to this one, I haven't engaged in the "finishing" activity, but I've got well over 100 hours into it and am planning to start up my 3rd go-round soon.
Quote from: glen55 on May 23, 2018, 10:01:43 PM
Quote from: jomni on May 23, 2018, 08:33:23 PM
Yeah but no one is even finishing the original.
What is this "finishing?" I have little comprehension of this concept as it relates to games.
As it applied to this one, I haven't engaged in the "finishing" activity, but I've got well over 100 hours into it and am planning to start up my 3rd go-round soon.
Well, I meant the story. This type of games should have a story right? But of course there's lot to do extra.
Unless there's very little story in it and the story is actually the extra.
'The Amorous Adventures of Bold Sir Hans Capon'.
Is this just a blatant opportunity for cashing in on gratuitous revelry, drunkenness, sex and violence?
I hope so.
(https://orig00.deviantart.net/ee12/f/2018/144/3/6/dd4eglfu0aahdni_by_jack_o_tales-dcce146.jpg)
Kingdom Come - Deliverance - The Finishing
Can you imagine this game if they expanded it with magic.
Then released an Arthurian setting.
Quote from: Gusington on May 24, 2018, 06:35:32 AM
Kingdom Come - Deliverance - The Finishing
Which leads me to ponder what exactly *is* the hardcore mode DLC.
Quote from: Ian C on May 24, 2018, 07:59:34 AM
Quote from: Gusington on May 24, 2018, 06:35:32 AM
Kingdom Come - Deliverance - The Finishing
Which leads me to ponder what exactly *is* the hardcore mode DLC.
It's got visual sex.
There is no 'real' ending in the game. You are just primed for KC:D II or whatever.
What I mean by no ending is that nothing is wrapped up in a neat little package.
Quote from: jomni on May 24, 2018, 08:18:48 AM
Quote from: Ian C on May 24, 2018, 07:59:34 AM
Quote from: Gusington on May 24, 2018, 06:35:32 AM
Kingdom Come - Deliverance - The Finishing
Which leads me to ponder what exactly *is* the hardcore mode DLC.
It's got visual sex.
Witcher quality or BioWare frottage?
I don't know any of these people, but this is why I'm falling in love with this game:
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/966475254565131318/24E918B96860D8CA8587D290ECDE837023768B03/
Quote from: Philippe on September 15, 2018, 11:03:57 AM
I don't know any of these people, but this is why I'm falling in love with this game:
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/966475254565131318/24E918B96860D8CA8587D290ECDE837023768B03/
And the mainstream players wouldn't even care.
The Amorous Adventures of Bold Sir Hans Strap-on is out. Mostly negative reviews so far due to DLC only having 1 to 3 hours of play time.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/921950/Kingdom_Come_Deliverance__The_Amorous_Adventures_of_Bold_Sir_Hans_Capon/#app_reviews_hash
Strap ons, eh?
Quote from: Gusington on October 19, 2018, 12:45:53 PM
Strap ons, eh?
Oh for pete's sake. It rhymes with Capon. There's nothing more to it than that. I have a perfectly Vanilla sex life. Ask my sister.
:o
Wow.
So much LOL in this thread...from unexpected quarters.
Good to know post-Mirth Grogheads humor is alive and functioning! O0
Now where is that "Like" button for IanC?
QuoteGood to know post-Mirth Grogheads humor is alive and functioning! O0Good to know post-Mirth Grogheads humor is alive and functioning! O0
What does this mean? Post Mirth? What is it that I don't know?
Yeah and I'm 6'7".
And about mirth?
That's classified.
Oh touché. I just noticed his absence and then the comment on him being referred to in the past tense and was concerned. His humor and wit always resonated with me.
Quote from: Gusington on October 20, 2018, 07:53:49 PM
Yeah and I'm 6'7".
Seriously, have you
seen my sister?
And what happened to Mirth?
Mirth left. There, I said it. You'll get no more out of me.
Well somebody apologize to someone and get that son-of-a-bitch back into the fold. Ain't nothing in this here world that can't be resolved.
I reached out to him personally last month, as did others, and he does not want to come back.
Well I hope it's not a vacation then.
(https://tse1.explicit.bing.net/th?id=OIP.CpRrt9gm02-9XUetZOipuAHaEs&pid=Api)
The only thing that could help at this point might just be a sing song.
Well that always helps me...but I'm still here.
Mirth is a great loss to the site and his candor is sadly missed...but, really, not having him around has been great for our bandwidth.
Quote from: Gusington on October 22, 2018, 07:57:25 AM
Well that always helps me...but I'm still here.
I'm sure what just may be the best rock band of all time isn't the problem. I surely picked the wrong song.
Heh...clearly you're preaching to the choir, son.
Quote from: Gusington on October 22, 2018, 05:22:45 PM
Heh...clearly you're preaching to the choir, son.
The choir needs a little preaching especially considering what transpired after last years regionals.
Btw, does anyone know why you always take two Southern Baptist fishing with you?
Because if you only take one they'll drink all your beer.
...
Quote from: Moreb on October 22, 2018, 09:00:33 PM
Btw, does anyone know why you always take two Southern Baptist fishing with you?
Because if you only take one they'll drink all your beer.
As a Southern Baptist teetotaller, I lol'd very appreciatively at that. O0
Alright. Thread derailed thanks to me. Let me steer it back on track with a legitimate question.
Does the game become boring considering the combat to be reality based where magic and magical items are missing? Its the quest for ever powerful artifacts that appeal to me in rpg's. Where is the draw here?
Jason, you know it. Some denominations have this. Some have that. But the Southern Baptist will always win out on fellowship dinners. I dare anyone to find better and more plentiful meals.
Quote from: Moreb on October 23, 2018, 01:35:25 PM
Does the game become boring considering the combat to be reality based where magic and magical items are missing? Its the quest for ever powerful artifacts that appeal to me in rpg's. Where is the draw here?
I don't feel like it becomes boring. There's still an ability curve with gear, it's just not magic based. You get bonuses to defense, stealth charisma ect based on what you're wearing.
For example, a battered set of full plate won't protect you as well as brand new ornate Nuremberg plate. You also won't get as far in conversation if you're wearing dirty, cheap armor as you will if you're wearing expensive gear that is commonly worn by noblemen.
Same goes for weapons. Cheap, quickly produced swords/maces/axes meant for the rank and file aren't as good as the much more expensive and hard to get named weapons you get in the mid to late game.
Not all horses are created equal either, and you'll invest a lot in upgrading to better mounts and better gear for your mounts.
So, yes, you'll be regularly improving your arms and equipment.
Quote from: Moreb on October 23, 2018, 01:35:25 PM
Jason, you know it. Some denominations have this. Some have that. But the Southern Baptist will always win out on fellowship dinners. I dare anyone to find better and more plentiful meals.
I don't know, i hear those nihilists have nothing to give :uglystupid2:
I burned out on this after about 10 hours. I'm sure I will go back to it eventually.
Quote from: SirAndrewD on October 23, 2018, 02:00:44 PM
Quote from: Moreb on October 23, 2018, 01:35:25 PM
Does the game become boring considering the combat to be reality based where magic and magical items are missing? Its the quest for ever powerful artifacts that appeal to me in rpg's. Where is the draw here?
I don't feel like it becomes boring. There's still an ability curve with gear, it's just not magic based. You get bonuses to defense, stealth charisma ect based on what you're wearing.
For example, a battered set of full plate won't protect you as well as brand new ornate Nuremberg plate. You also won't get as far in conversation if you're wearing dirty, cheap armor as you will if you're wearing expensive gear that is commonly worn by noblemen.
Same goes for weapons. Cheap, quickly produced swords/maces/axes meant for the rank and file aren't as good as the much more expensive and hard to get named weapons you get in the mid to late game.
Not all horses are created equal either, and you'll invest a lot in upgrading to better mounts and better gear for your mounts.
So, yes, you'll be regularly improving your arms and equipment.
That's encouraging. I may have to grab this when it's on sale. Not that I have the time to play of course.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on October 23, 2018, 02:15:36 PM
I burned out on this after about 10 hours. I'm sure I will go back to it eventually.
For a premium game that isn't long enough to justify the price IMO. Then again, I really have to like a game to invest a bunch of time into it.
Quote from: jamus34 on October 23, 2018, 02:11:54 PM
I don't know, i hear those nihilists have nothing to give :uglystupid2:
Hehe. But they make the best paella around.
(https://crowdfundinglegalnews.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/7a0a066527759dbb6689ff4236e145122.jpg)
I keep forgetting this game is even out there. Next sale, I'm on this.
Heh I bought it on sale and keep forgetting it's out there.
Quote from: Toonces on November 02, 2018, 06:18:36 PM
I keep forgetting this game is even out there. Next sale, I'm on this.
Whelp as most of you know this had a free weekend on Steam this past weekend. I downloaded it (46GB! WTF?!) and finally booted it up on Sunday. I didn't last more than 30 minutes.
There might be a good game in there, but I couldn't seem to get to it. Immediately, and I mean instantly, I was over the entirely over long dialogue scene right at the beginning. I mean WTF get on with it already.
Then, once I could finally start moving, for some unfathomable reason they included head bob. Have I ever told you how headache and nausea inducing I find head bob?
But I fought through it, and went to see pa....and then I just kind of gave up because I was so utterly bored.
I know, I didn't really give it a fair chance at all, and there is probably a way to mod out the head bob, but I just decided to bail. I like the idea of the game, but...meh.
I played it about 5 hours over the free weekend and liked it well enough. I didn't buy it as I just subscribed to two games and want to spend my gaming time there for now but will keep an eye out for KCD when the fall sales roll around. I do have a thing for medieval history, which may have something to do with my patience for the pace and the few bugs I encountered.
I have started to play it. Maybe it is just a slow starter....but about 30 min in and the game is rubbing me the wrong way.
For a game advertised as an open world, I still haven't gotten off the rails.
The game is graphically wonderful, with some decent voice acting and there is a story there.
But at least 30 min in, I am still trying to get past "must do" things...and none of them are easy....many restarts.... not fun...
I'll keep with it a bit longer...hopefully get off the rails soon...
Quote from: ArizonaTank on September 09, 2019, 10:59:05 PM
I have started to play it. Maybe it is just a slow starter....but about 30 min in and the game is rubbing me the wrong way.
For an a game advertised as open world, I still haven't gotten off the rails.
The game is graphically wonderful, with some decent voice acting and there is a story there.
But at least 30 min in, I am still trying to get past "must do" things...and none of them are easy....many restarts.... not fun...
I'll keep with it a bit longer...hopefully get off the rails soon...
I absolutely hated this game. Everything about it. I didn't get out the first place, but the inane tasks just bored the shit out of me. Honestly I couldn't find a single thing I liked. Worst purchase ever for me.
Having said that - I've read many people getting out of the starting location and enjoying the crap out of this game - so perhaps stick with it and see how you go once you get outside - I've heard it really does open up.
Quote from: JudgeDredd on September 10, 2019, 12:46:07 AM
Having said that - I've read many people getting out of the starting location and enjoying the crap out of this game - so perhaps stick with it and see how you go once you get outside - I've heard it really does open up.
It does.
The opening of the game is honestly really terrible. It's more a prologue than even an actual part of the game. Heck, the opening credits don't even come on until you've gotten over the entire Skalitz story and that takes a good couple of hours or more.
Even once you get to the big city, Rattay, you really need to get past Henry's first battle before you can really begin to progress as you absolutely suck at combat until then.
It's a shame because it put a lot of people off.
I will be starting this soon-ish. I hope I am feeling patient when I do.
My experience is that the game leans too heavily on its 'medieval life simulator' aspects at the beginning. You're weak and the game takes far too much time to show off its 'living world' aspects complete with dull daily life chores.
The game does open up after a while, but the combat remains hard as nails at first unless you can resort to stealing some good gear without being caught.
It does a great job at portraying medieval life and has a convincing living dynamic world, but they could have put more 'fun' into the game imo.
It's a technical marvel however and looks absolutely gorgeous, but I too, wish it was more fun to play.
The opening sequence before the credits start running are essentially an extended tutorial that sets up the backstory.
The thing to remember about KCD when playing it for the first time is that Henry (the character that you play) is a peasant with no skills of any kind. He isn't even any good at drinking, and that's an important skill too.
In the Skalitz sequence Henry stumbles around the village, familiarizing himself with a lot of people and places that he will run into later in the story. He has absolutely no combat skills, doesn't really know how to ride a horse, and can't read.
The combat system in KCD is a little different from anything you've probably encountered. The game has two modes: normal and hardcore. I prefer hardcore, but do not, under any circumstances, attempt to play the game in hardcore until you've mastered the combat system in normal mode. Among other things, normal mode gives you visual cues about when you should block or parry, and what attack you should make when and from what direction. If you haven't learned the visual cues and the attack and parry moves aren't part of your muscle memory, combat will seem like an un-satisfying and frustrating exercise in button-mashing.
Towards the end of the Skalitz sequence you will find yourself in a quest helpfully titled 'Run!'. You will be unarmored but have a very good sword in your hand, and you may find yourself wondering whether fighting the single armored and (more importantly) fully trained soldier is a good idea. It's not. Later on you'll be able to take someone like that apart if you go up against them one-on-one, but at this point in the game you're supposed to run (hence the name of the quest). Just to get the point across, when Henry was first introduced to the sword he was also shown a thin stick planted in the ground: the idea was to see if he could cut it in half, and he failed miserably.
The game may drive you to search the internet for videos on historical european martial arts. If you watch enough of these you'll end up realizing that the game is grounded and based on HEMA rather than computer game conventions, and that accounts for a lot of the quirks. KCD does a lot of things a bit differently from what you'd expect, and a lot of the complaints and frustration with the game come from people not coming to terms with the fact that you're supposed to play the game by the developer's rules, not by what the player is used to doing in every other button-masher that he has played. And by the way, once you get to about the middle of the game and have learned how it works, combat becomes easy. And knowing when not to get involved in a fight in the first place helps a lot too.
One of the best features of the game is a marvelous Codex tab buried away in the information panels. The Codex tab is basically an undergraduate course in 15th century Bohemian history and civilization. As you go through the game encountering new things, people, and concepts, the Codex tab gets progressively fuller with more and more entries. Because they throw things at you a little bit at a time it's not too hard to digest, and they only tell you what you really need to know. I'm really impressed by what's in there. And for those who don't remember, I met my ex-wife in a Medieval History class in college, and suffered through her doctoral dissertation on Benedictine monasticism (suffered because I had to translate all the French, Latin, and Greek that she needed).
This is a bit of a massive spoiler, but later on in the game Henry's investigation into a murder leads him to a remote village. In the course of trying (and failing) to get the parish priest to violate the sanctity of the confessional, Henry ends up going on a bender with him on a Saturday night and they both wake up the next day, massively hung over. Henry proceeds to try to help the priest get through celebrating mass without puking on the altar. The resulting attempts at a sermon are probably the funniest thing I've ever encountered in a video game. Any coffee that you're drinking will end up on your monitor.
Henry constantly needs to persuade people to do things, either to lower the price on the palacsintas he's haggling for in the market place, or to get someone to tell him something he needs to know. You're not as good at talking people into things when you are blood-stained, mud-spattered, and look scruffy, and the best way to spruce yourself up is to visit one of the many bath houses. Bath houses are staffed with cute female attendants who can also take care of other needs. One of my favorite moments comes when you visit your girl-friend after you've been cavorting with the bath girls: she chews you out for frequenting whores because she can smell them on you.
^Thanks for posting all that...you probably saved my future playthrough!
Yeah I was going to say the same thing. I've owned this game since it was in Humble Monthly, even installed it, but have been too daunted to get stuck in. The likelihood of that happening just increased considerably. Thanks, Philippe!
I hate to see people bailing on a really wonderful game because of a tough opening, but I have a simple tip for dealing with the opening:
When the game tells you to do something, don't do it unless you have absolutely no alternative.
And really, the first chance you get after the initial talking, go out and start gathering flowers and weeds. You can make enough money to actually buy a couple of needed things at the shop, and you will improve your important flower-gathering skill at the same time. There are many flowers and weeds around town and it's by far the best way to get money early on.
There's a guy in town who gives combat lessons. Go to him ASAP and practice for a while. Combat is HARD at the beginning, but eventually you will realize that your timing and mouse-sweep direction control combat damned near as much as the quality of your sword and armor.
Once you have practiced with this guy a bit, and gathered all the flowers ye may gather, then you can plunge back into the plot and you will not be stymied at every turn. The plot will gather pace rather quickly once you finish father's tasks.
Thanks glen, that will also help me.
The conversation that Henry has with his mother in Skalitz after he first wakes up will determine the first couple of 'free' attribute points that he gets. It's not hard to guess what these will be from what he says to her, and you should go with the ones that best suit the style you wish to play.
A lot of people put everything in speech, but if you always speak as much as possible to everyone you can and make a point of trying to select dialog options that haven't been used before (they're shown in white as opposed to grey text), you'll start a slow but steady build-up of an all-important attribute. Remember to always bargain with the market vendors: selling successfully improves your reputation with the merchant, and the haggling counts as a small speech-influencing event.
The two most important attributes for combat purposes are stamina and strength. You can build up your stamina by doing calisthenics (running, climbing, or jumping until you start to pass out and everything turns grey). You can build your strength by picking industrial quantities of herbs and flowers. You'll quickly discover that stamina is the more important of the two.
On my next playthrough I intend to go intentionally light on the herb-picking because it ends up leaving Henry with too much money. The plot is really designed for him to be seriously impoverished for the first few hours (this will leave him both weak and broke). I also intend to use all the negative traits rather than the mandatory two. My next Henry will be a sleep-walking slow learner with debillitating nightmares and brittle bones, among other things (negative traits are something you only have to deal with in hardcore mode).
But just as you shouldn't use Hardcore on your first couple of playthroughs because it will mess up learning combat, I'm not sure that playing a weak and impoverished Henry when you're trying to learn the game will be very much fun. Having said that, there are usually several different ways to accomplish each quest, and the game seems designed to accomodate failing a few quests here or there. Like most computer gamers I'm somewhat obsessive about completing everything, but apart from the fear of missing out, it makes a better story if you fail a few quests from time to time.
I actually liked the touch of playing the weak and poor Henry once I realized how they were trying to scale the ramping up of the story.
Thanks Phillipe... That certainly will be helpful when I give it another shot. Gives me a completely new perspective. I don't have to fight every battle like in most other games and I will have to learn when to run... fast like a bunny. :hide:
On the other hand, it is well known by now (unless patches have fixed this) that once you get your horse to flee the village with at the end of the tutorial section, you can use it to absolutely Rambo the invaders down to the last man. :cowboy:
You still end up fleeing the village, with all that this plot-entails -- you can flee the village by accident during your revenge-soaked horsey-spree if you aren't very careful! But you'll have plenty of cash and gear from looting the corpses, and I think your combat stats significantly improve by going this route.
I've never done this myself because I got the game super early before much bug-stomping had been done (and before I got a better gfx card), so I uninstalled it until the 'complete' game would be released. ::)
The way you describe it, it sounds like a really fun game Philippe. But I guess I'm not a place right now where making my toon do calisthenics and pick flowers qualifies as fun gaming.
I'm thrilled that so many of you are enjoying this game. For me, this game is going to have to wait until I've cleared a significant hole in my backlog of games that have a quicker time invested/fun reward ratio.
To be fair, you don't HAVE to pick flowers or do calisthenics.
You can actually achieve good scores in Herbalism and Strength just playing the game and questing.
It's the power leveling scheme to spend your first hours doing nothing but flower picking and sprinting around.
^^ Or gaming the mechanics to slaughter in the invading company before escaping.
Quote from: JasonPratt on September 13, 2019, 03:43:53 PM
^^ Or gaming the mechanics to slaughter in the invading company before escaping.
Yeah, exactly. If you don't lock on to the first Cuman you can actually kill him pretty easily by just strafing and doing wild swings. You just have to make sure not to look at him directly to trigger the melee.
Same with the Cumans you save Teresa from later. Get on a horse and you can kill all of them.
It'll make you totally OP for the early curve and give you equipment you really shouldn't have. Good for a second play through maybe, but ruins the pacing otherwise.
If anyone hasn't tried this game and is curious about it, it's having a sale and a free weekend on Steam.
Has anyone tried the DLCs for the game?
Are they worth it in any way?
I've tried all of them. They're all worth having, especially A Woman's Lot and From the Ashes. The one that I am least excited about is Treasures from the Past, but on balance it's probably worth getting because it gives you several new treasure maps, and treasure hunting is fun.
Having said that, none of them are fabulous but they are useful enhancements to the game. Without revealing any spoilers, A Woman's Lot gives you significant and important insight into the basic geography of the game. Things that I had always been wondering about were explained and suddenly made a lot of sense. What you need to remember when you eventually get to the part that uses From the Ashes is that KCD is not and does not pretend to be a medieval city-builder: it is first and foremost an RPG, and though a village does eventually get rebuilt, the whole activity is subordinated to the main character's experience of life in medieval Bohemia. I had initially thought of skipping this one, but I'm very glad I didn't (and once again, you end up with a lot of insight into what has been going on in a large section of the map for the past few years.
The landscape that the game takes place in shows signs of being very much alive. A fun activity that is possible (though you don't get points for it) is to run around conducting archeological field surveys of the area. I used to do that IRL when I was in college, and you can absolutely do that here. Most of the things you'll find are medieval, but some of them are clearly Iron Age and perhaps earlier. And though some of them (like the Iron Age tumulus) are fairly easy to find if you know what you're looking for, there are a lot of forests and overgrown areas, and it's amazing what you come across if you poke around in there long enough.
I just picked this game up on sale because of the positive reviews on Steam. From the comment here I should expect it to be pretty good...?
I have reinstalled it and plan on trying it out again after my difficulties from a year ago + ... it stuck in my mind for a long time after it beat me up.
Quote from: solops on March 19, 2021, 04:28:53 PM
I just picked this game up on sale because of the positive reviews on Steam. From the comment here I should expect it to be pretty good...?
It is a good game. My only complaint is that you must realise that you simply CANNOT beat opponents with skill alone. You must level up your character before having a hope in hell of blocking some opponents. They will simply be too quick. I did not finish the game but really enjoyed what I played of it. It's a damned fine game and a challenging one to boot. But it is also single player and can really chew your time up.
Quote from: Destraex on March 19, 2021, 10:38:01 PM
Quote from: solops on March 19, 2021, 04:28:53 PM
I just picked this game up on sale because of the positive reviews on Steam. From the comment here I should expect it to be pretty good...?
It is a good game. My only complaint is that you must realise that you simply CANNOT beat opponents with skill alone. You must level up your character before having a hope in hell of blocking some opponents. They will simply be too quick. I did not finish the game but really enjoyed what I played of it. It's a damned fine game and a challenging one to boot. But it is also single player and can really chew your time up.
That sounds good, mostly. I like single player. Being retired helps. Problem - Shadow Empires is eating my time :)
May the most addictive game win!
One thing that people who are used to playing other RPG's don't tend to get is that the different weapons that are available aren't there to provide you with a role-playing choice.
A lot of people tend to concentrate on swords, and then wonder why they're having a hard time doing any damage to someone covered from head to toe in heavy plate armor.
When cofronted with a heavy tin can, you're supposed to use a can opener (i.e. a heavy warhammer).
What that means in practice is that you have to become proficient in several types of weapons, and which one you pull out depends on what you're about to go up against.
When confronted with an APC, don't shoot at it with an M 16, use a LAW.
I agree that you will ideally want to level up in sword and something blunt, but I think it's OK to specialize in blunt instruments. They aren't as good as swords at beating up the folks who aren't in heavy armor, but they're good enough at it since most of those folks aren't too formidable.
But definitely, you don't want to put all your eggs in the sword basket. If you're good enough and you have an awesome sword you can handle a strong armored foe but generally Philippe is right that it can be problematic to fight armor with a blade.
I could be mistaken, but I thought most knights and armored up troops used axes. How well do they work in the game?
Kingdom didn't resonate with me. Perhaps I need to give it another chance. How long is the story, or how much mileage can you get out of the game compared to something like Skyrim?
The knight's battlefield weapon of choice in the early 15th century was the warhammer. In KCD, really superb warhammers are somewhat rare and hard to come by, and learning to use one well involves taking a lot of personal damage and chewing up a lot of expensive armor because you train with a bludgeon (which is a real weapon in its own right, even though made out of wood). The upside is that if you have an armor repair kit and don't let your armor get too beat up, you'll get a fair amount of maintenance experience fixing it.
In KCD, heavy axes are very good when you're about to fight a group of moderately armored and lightly armored opponents with perhaps one heavily armored opponent mixed in. If you have a good axe, it's your go-to weapon when you aren't sure what to use. The really good ones do a fair amount of blunt damage in addition to being superb at slashing damage. Unlike the top-of-the-line warhammer, you can buy a really good axe in a store, and you learn to use them training with somewhat innocuous wooden weapons that won't do a lot of personal and armor damage.
The longsword's big advantage is its reach, but its weakness is that you don't want to use it with a shield which makes you more vulnerable to archers. I've had good results in KCD with an arming sword and shield (KCD calls it short sword and shield). You can use a longsword (really a bastard sword) with a shield, but you can't execute any fancy moves when holding a shield.
I would not compare KCD to Skyrim - KCD was developed by what basically amounts to an independent studio and it is really a technical achievement if you think about it that way.
Compared to Skyrim, developed by Bethesda and is basically endless with mods (or even without), is not fair to either title.