Barcelona Fighting

[GDS_Starfury]

oh, .... Spain has a trump as well?

[MikeGER]

the fuel of the independence thought is, beside the historic back traces, the wealth transfer generated in Catalonia and send to main Spain... now with the growing uncertainty of the situation, some mayor banks and other businesses moved already there headquarter (taxes) from Catalonia to other parts of the Spain.

the wealth generation drops in Catalonia and with all the other fallout of pre-independence turmoil get more and more costly and so the movement will fizzle in the population with the exception of a small group of hardliners.

Catalonia already has a lot of Free State traits so it was mostly about the money-drain and hurt feelings of proud Spaniards and Catalans.

I neither expect a shooting war , nor terror, no violence beside a few clashes at small protest marches when main Spain police arrest some ringleader, and only if Madrid sees it really has to shut down the Catalonia's local parliament until early elections according to some special laws in the Spanish constitution             

[airboy]

My wife and I have to decide in 10 days if we are going or not.

[Sir Slash]

Tough call. I wouldn't necessarily fear going as much as not being able to get back out quickly if need be.

[Gusington]

My wife spent a semester in Barcelona about 25 years ago and recalls it as one of the best times in her life. It would be a shame if the current situation stopped you and your wife from going, airboy.

[bayonetbrant]

http://www.businessinsider.com/spain-catalonia-proposes-to-suspend-independence-referendum-result-2017-10

[Sir Slash]

I think that ship has sailed. Or maybe in this case, those bulls have already been run.

[airboy]

Well, they are having more riots.  We fly out tomorrow.

[MetalDog]

Stay safe, airboy!

[bayonetbrant]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/19/world/europe/catalonia-independence-referendum.html?_r=0

[Gusington]

Good luck airboy.

[MikeGER]

enjoy your trip, airboy

i am sure all will be fine ....he, its Old Europe after all O0 

[Atilla60]

This is not good

Catalans declare independence. Madrid's reaction is to impose direct rule.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41780116

[Gusington]

Honestly cannot predict what will happen next...

[BanzaiCat]

European Commission chief Jean-Claude Juncker said the EU "doesn't need any more cracks, more splits".

Well, maybe this needs to be a wake-up call to the EU, then.