Oooo!
Squealing over the new Operational Air War game in the Downtown/Bloody April series, Red Storm. :dreamer:
http://www.gmtgames.com/p-614-red-storm.aspx
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gmtgames.com%2FRedStorm%2FRSSampleAircraft.jpg&hash=8aa84bf62b193dab3cc1168653b31cd82623826b)
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gmtgames.com%2FRedStorm%2FRSSampleGroundUnits.jpg&hash=f4cdb22a2fd59df1c12f72a44071b63fb87fcd34)
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gmtgames.com%2FRedStorm%2FRSMap1.jpg&hash=94a44768995176d305ba0fe384bed68c26670085)
I've been a bit fascinated with the air defenses, and planning for/against them, in the '60s-'70s settings of this game system. This one should ramp the electronic battle to eleven, with the more capable SAMs and defense networks of a late '80s Europe scenario. Of course, SEAD will be more capable too.
WANT. O0
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Other newer notables I'm eyeing:
Storming the Heights (http://www.gmtgames.com/p-561-storming-the-heights.aspx)
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gmtgames.com%2FStormingHeights%2FAlma_Promo_Flyer.jpeg&hash=58dd0de3be12bd6bbf459ce765bf96fe0384c196)
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Wing Leader Blitz (http://www.gmtgames.com/p-612-wing-leader-blitz.aspx)
A new campaign system for the first Wing Leader? Hrmm...
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Command & Colors: Medieval (http://www.gmtgames.com/p-604-commands-colors-medieval.aspx)
Been on P500 for a little while. May have to add it to my list at some point.
Have you played a Miranda designed game before? I'm thinking through my collection and realizing that I don't think that I actually have. I've heard both ways on the complexity and design decisions that he's made in the past. Be curious if this would be your first one of his designs or if you have some familiarity there already.
Quote from: GJK on November 19, 2016, 08:11:30 AM
Have you played a Miranda designed game before? I'm thinking through my collection and realizing that I don't think that I actually have. I've heard both ways on the complexity and design decisions that he's made in the past. Be curious if this would be your first one of his designs or if you have some familiarity there already.
I had one of his S&T magazine games, ages ago (Byzantium iirc). Never got around to it before it went AWOL.
My wargaming has been almost non-existent in the past couple decades. So I've not been exposed to many designers, including him. I don't consume many different hex & counter wargames nowadays. A little goes a long way. The ground warfare-themed titles I get are usually limited to pre-20th century battles, so this piqued my interest.
That Alma game looks interesting and Leeds always does a great job on the graphics so I'd be interested in what you thought of the game once you've had a chance to play it.
Quote from: GJK on November 19, 2016, 08:26:50 AM
That Alma game looks interesting and Leeds always does a great job on the graphics so I'd be interested in what you thought of the game once you've had a chance to play it.
I'm still fenced about signing up for many of the P500s. Being GMT they probably won't be produced for another two years, so plenty of time to mull it over.
Although I did sign up for the air war one already. I'm a sucker for the more unusual stuff like that.
Yeah Red Storm caught my eye as well... but I'm worried that it will be the beautiful, yet unplayable except on VASSAL and not solo, game that Bloody April is. :-\
And then there's this:
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gmtgames.com%2FSpaceCorp%2FSpaceCorpbanner1.jpg&hash=a1e7de01e6b609056f92b905d924cb3d7d8f75c4)
QuoteSpaceCorp: 2025-2300 AD is a fast-playing board game in which one to four players explore and develop outer space over three eras. Each player controls an Earth-based enterprise seeking profit by driving the expansion of humanity into the Solar System and beyond. In SpaceCorp you can ...
Assemble a spaceport at a LeGrange Point.
Launch an exploration mission to Mars.
Mine the asteroids.
Earn profit from exotic resources discovered on the Jovian moons.
Discover microbial life in the subsurface oceans of Charon.
Decode exo-DNA to develop radiation resistant human pioneers.
Undertake a mission to Alpha Centauri in a generation ship.
Break through technological barriers to achieve faster than light travel.
Establish a colony in the Tau Ceti star system.
Each of the three eras is played on a different board:
The first era, Mariners, covers exploration and development out to Mars.
In Planeteers, players settle the outer solar system.
In Starfarers, players send missions to nearby star systems and establish interstellar colonies.
https://www.gmtgames.com/p-613-spacecorp.aspx
The GMT newsletter mentioned something about Red Storm being made a bit more solitaire friendly than previous ones. Although I'm sure it'll never be full-on solitaire capable.
Since the Wing Leader series is distantly related mechanics-wise, I think it could potentially get closer to being as solo friendly as those. It's mostly about the pre-planning of Air missions & defenses, though, so one side would need some kind of procedural process for a big leap in solo friendliness.
I was also really curious about Spacecorp. But 1) the graphical look wasn't very impressive, and 2) I already paid for the extremely late High Frontier KS Reprint, which should be showing up in the next year. Hopefully it doesn't reach two years late, anyway. There's way too much thematic overlap from Spacecorp, and HF will be brain-draining enough.
Ha! Saw High Frontier being played at Game On! con a few years back.... no way I'm learning that! :hide:
Quote from: Nefaro on November 19, 2016, 08:38:52 AM
The GMT newsletter mentioned something about Red Storm being made a bit more solitaire friendly than previous ones. Although I'm sure it'll never be full-on solitaire capable.
Since the Wing Leader series is distantly related mechanics-wise, I think it could potentially get closer to being as solo friendly as those. It's mostly about the pre-planning of Air missions & defenses, though, so one side would need some kind of procedural process for a big leap in solo friendliness. ...
Yeah, but it's not just the solo unfriendliness, I can solo just about anything. It's the shear quantity of status markers that are required to play Bloody April that make it hard to play in it's physical form. Wing Leader has no where near that problem.
Quote from: Barthheart on November 19, 2016, 08:46:43 AM
Quote from: Nefaro on November 19, 2016, 08:38:52 AM
The GMT newsletter mentioned something about Red Storm being made a bit more solitaire friendly than previous ones. Although I'm sure it'll never be full-on solitaire capable.
Since the Wing Leader series is distantly related mechanics-wise, I think it could potentially get closer to being as solo friendly as those. It's mostly about the pre-planning of Air missions & defenses, though, so one side would need some kind of procedural process for a big leap in solo friendliness. ...
Yeah, but it's not just the solo unfriendliness, I can solo just about anything. It's the shear quantity of status markers that are required to play Bloody April that make it hard to play in it's physical form. Wing Leader has no where near that problem.
Doesn't
Wing Leader keep each flight's status markers on a separate sheet, though? May be a job for Homemade Materials Man™
The map clutter, with too many status markers all over, or covering too much counter info, is a problem with a few different systems. I was bitching about such clutter in the GBoH series awhile back, too. :-\
Quote from: Nefaro on November 19, 2016, 08:52:18 AM
Quote from: Barthheart on November 19, 2016, 08:46:43 AM
Quote from: Nefaro on November 19, 2016, 08:38:52 AM
The GMT newsletter mentioned something about Red Storm being made a bit more solitaire friendly than previous ones. Although I'm sure it'll never be full-on solitaire capable.
Since the Wing Leader series is distantly related mechanics-wise, I think it could potentially get closer to being as solo friendly as those. It's mostly about the pre-planning of Air missions & defenses, though, so one side would need some kind of procedural process for a big leap in solo friendliness. ...
Yeah, but it's not just the solo unfriendliness, I can solo just about anything. It's the shear quantity of status markers that are required to play Bloody April that make it hard to play in it's physical form. Wing Leader has no where near that problem.
Doesn't Wing Leader keep each flight's status markers on a separate sheet, though? May be a job for Homemade Materials Man™
The map clutter, with too many status markers all over, or covering too much counter info, is a problem with a few different systems. I was bitching about such clutter in the GBoH series awhile back, too. :-\
True about WL.... maybe I need to look at if it's feasible for Bloody April..... or if someone already has....
The downtown system is so adaptable to other periods. Heck, I even started working on a European war version!
If I was lee, I'd just sit at home cranking out new versions of downtown while sipping Mai tais on the beach.
Quote from: Toonces on November 19, 2016, 09:21:51 AMIf I was lee, I'd just sit at home cranking out new versions of downtown while sipping Mai tais on the beach.
actually, he's a professional video game designer
Quote from: Barthheart on November 19, 2016, 08:54:36 AM
Quote from: Nefaro on November 19, 2016, 08:52:18 AM
Quote from: Barthheart on November 19, 2016, 08:46:43 AM
Quote from: Nefaro on November 19, 2016, 08:38:52 AM
The GMT newsletter mentioned something about Red Storm being made a bit more solitaire friendly than previous ones. Although I'm sure it'll never be full-on solitaire capable.
Since the Wing Leader series is distantly related mechanics-wise, I think it could potentially get closer to being as solo friendly as those. It's mostly about the pre-planning of Air missions & defenses, though, so one side would need some kind of procedural process for a big leap in solo friendliness. ...
Yeah, but it's not just the solo unfriendliness, I can solo just about anything. It's the shear quantity of status markers that are required to play Bloody April that make it hard to play in it's physical form. Wing Leader has no where near that problem.
Doesn't Wing Leader keep each flight's status markers on a separate sheet, though? May be a job for Homemade Materials Man™
The map clutter, with too many status markers all over, or covering too much counter info, is a problem with a few different systems. I was bitching about such clutter in the GBoH series awhile back, too. :-\
True about WL.... maybe I need to look at if it's feasible for Bloody April..... or if someone already has....
Thought I saw someone mention they used similar status sheets for the markers with it. Probably a BGG post.
At least that's a straightforward way of handling it. There aren't a huge amount of flights per side, so it's quite possible. I'm still at a loss about having swaths of Cohesion hit markers on, or under, a bunch of units in GBoH though. Still wish it was easy to get info from both the counter & hits without having to un-stack counters. Not such an easy fix with something like that.
Is anyone else having trouble getting to the GMT website? NM, working fine now.
This looks good. Has anyone tried the Next War games.
http://www.gmtgames.com/p-569-next-war-poland.aspx
Quote from: OJsDad on November 19, 2016, 02:10:52 PM
Is anyone else having trouble getting to the GMT website? NM, working fine now.
This looks good. Has anyone tried the Next War games.
http://www.gmtgames.com/p-569-next-war-poland.aspx
I definitely want to.
Poland would be an attractive one for me.
Quote from: bayonetbrant on November 19, 2016, 09:38:25 AM
Quote from: Toonces on November 19, 2016, 09:21:51 AMIf I was lee, I'd just sit at home cranking out new versions of downtown while sipping Mai tais on the beach.
actually, he's a professional video game designer
I didn't know that. What video games is he pumping out?
Quote from: Toonces on November 26, 2016, 09:25:38 AM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on November 19, 2016, 09:38:25 AM
Quote from: Toonces on November 19, 2016, 09:21:51 AMIf I was lee, I'd just sit at home cranking out new versions of downtown while sipping Mai tais on the beach.
actually, he's a professional video game designer
I didn't know that. What video games is he pumping out?
he works for Guerrilla Games
an online bio
QuoteLee Brimmicombe-Wood is a games designer working for Guerrilla Games, part of Sony Worldwide Studios. In a career spanning over 20 years he has worked for Rebellion, Eidos, Kuju, Codemasters and Ubisoft, designing air combat simulators, roleplay games and first person shooters for the PC, Xbox, Playstation, handhelds and VR.
I had no idea. Very interesting.
Speaking of...
Wing Leader: Supremacy 1943-1945 P500 was just charged today. So if you want the P500 price, you'll have to order it in the next week, perhaps two.
They charged me $13 for shipping this time. Not great, but about what I expected. A bit lower than some of the previous ones I got from them iirc.
I love GMT and I own dozens of GMT games, but their shipping is frustratingly high. I rarely order direct from them anymore.
Are any GMT games single player?
Quite a few
https://www.gmtgames.com/c-48-solitaire-games.aspx
Got my email charge notification as well. I haven't had a chance to check the CC statement yet but here's hoping they didn't screw me on exchange rates like last time.
Yep me too... email said they charged me $68 USD... which if the P500 cost was $53 means $15 shipping...to my US address.... so I'll have to go get it at the same time I get Jutland (thanks Stagger!) :bd:
I got charged $69 USD which my CC converted to $95 CDN (Local game store has pre orders for $85.... :-[). Conversion rates put the base rate at $92 so I'm not getting screwed like I did with Empire of the Sun.
When I got Silver Bayonet, GMT only charged me $19 for air shipping via UPS to NZ. That's a damn sight cheaper than some other companies. LnL is the only one that's cheaper.
Quote from: Pinetree on November 29, 2016, 08:28:28 PM
When I got Silver Bayonet, GMT only charged me $19 for air shipping via UPS to NZ. That's a damn sight cheaper than some other companies. LnL is the only one that's cheaper.
I've had them charge regular slow as hell shipping-via-truck from four states away, within the same country, cost me $16. :-\
You're getting a steal.
Quote from: mirth on November 29, 2016, 03:52:41 PM
Quite a few
https://www.gmtgames.com/c-48-solitaire-games.aspx
Sorry - their webpage was such a mess (like something from the 90's), I didn't look down the left hand list. O0
This thread just reminds me that I need to order some counter trays.
Can never have too many counter trays.
I really need to order some, but I'm not sure I'm ready to face the wraith of *the one* who sees the credit card statement just yet. Because lord knows I cannot just order some trays without adding a game or two onto the purchase. :(
Fwiw, GMs at Origins get dealer hall vouchers for their purchases.
Just sayin'
I hope voucher means free.
You get vouchers, for free, when you GM games. Each voucher is worth $5. The more games we, as an organization, GM the more vouchers we earn.
So all I have to do is drop a few grand and fly to Ohio and I get vouchers? I'm in!
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on November 30, 2016, 05:17:40 PM
So all I have to do is drop a few grand and fly to Ohio and I get vouchers? I'm in!
:2funny:
Someday SPQR will make the cut.
Quote from: Bison on November 30, 2016, 08:56:42 PM
Someday SPQR will make the cut.
.... again.
Along with
Cataphract! ^-^
I just want the digital version of Nightfighter... (and a sweet, sweet $5 voucher with a little whiff of Columbus, OH stank on it.)
They announced Red Storm (http://www.gmtgames.com/p-614-red-storm.aspx) today...I promptly got it, even though its not a solo game and I have no one to play against. But 1980s air war over Germany, just take my money now. Then I noticed a Falling Sky Expansion was on P500 too, so I got that as well.
Quote from: Nefaro on November 30, 2016, 09:16:18 PM
Quote from: Bison on November 30, 2016, 08:56:42 PM
Someday SPQR will make the cut.
.... again.
Along with Cataphract! ^-^
I need to replace my Cataphract! But you know, what is odd about that game (or maybe its just my copy which was apparently sat upon by Canadians in its youth long ago) is the amount of extra stuff in the game that you need some other game to play. And then there's that strategic-level in-game addeddum and what not. They should really redo all those Great Battles games to be more like Chariots of Fire and/or Hoplite. Which reminds me that there is some Dutch company bringing out some medieval games (one even covers Tincherbray 1106! Thats 1106 AD not am).
Okay. Get out there and get close to Nature....
Quote from: Nefaro on November 30, 2016, 09:16:18 PM
Quote from: Bison on November 30, 2016, 08:56:42 PM
Someday SPQR will make the cut.
.... again.
Along with Cataphract! ^-^
The Tincherbray Thing:
https://hollandspiele.com/products/house-of-normandy
Quote from: MengJiao on December 08, 2016, 05:59:48 AM
I need to replace my Cataphract! But you know, what is odd about that game (or maybe its just my copy which was apparently sat upon by Canadians in its youth long ago) is the amount of extra stuff in the game that you need some other game to play. And then there's that strategic-level in-game addeddum and what not. They should really redo all those Great Battles games to be more like Chariots of Fire and/or Hoplite. Which reminds me that there is some Dutch company bringing out some medieval games (one even covers Tincherbray 1106! Thats 1106 AD not am).
Okay. Get out there and get close to Nature....
Vae Victis has a beautiful medieval battle series I've been gravitating to.
I picked up The Lion And the Sword (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/72298/le-lion-et-lepee) awhile back.
Unfortunately, they're sold in folio format. Not too punishing on your wallet for getting one with a couple battles in it. But this format is expensive if you want more battles in the long run. Plus storage is an issue. I'd rather have more battles in a single box; saving on all the extra packaging costs inherent with doling them out bit by bit.
Quote from: Kushan on December 08, 2016, 01:20:07 AM
They announced Red Storm (http://www.gmtgames.com/p-614-red-storm.aspx) today...I promptly got it, even though its not a solo game and I have no one to play against. But 1980s air war over Germany, just take my money now. Then I noticed a Falling Sky Expansion was on P500 too, so I got that as well.
Ummmmm....
did you miss my original post for this thread, Kushan? :crazy2:
Quote from: Nefaro on December 08, 2016, 11:54:49 AM
Quote from: Kushan on December 08, 2016, 01:20:07 AM
They announced Red Storm (http://www.gmtgames.com/p-614-red-storm.aspx) today...I promptly got it, even though its not a solo game and I have no one to play against. But 1980s air war over Germany, just take my money now. Then I noticed a Falling Sky Expansion was on P500 too, so I got that as well.
Ummmmm....
did you miss my original post for this thread, Kushan? :crazy2:
Oops. That would have required me to go all the way back to page 1, I only went back to page 2. ::)
Quote from: Kushan on December 08, 2016, 12:47:57 PM
Quote from: Nefaro on December 08, 2016, 11:54:49 AM
Quote from: Kushan on December 08, 2016, 01:20:07 AM
They announced Red Storm (http://www.gmtgames.com/p-614-red-storm.aspx) today...I promptly got it, even though its not a solo game and I have no one to play against. But 1980s air war over Germany, just take my money now. Then I noticed a Falling Sky Expansion was on P500 too, so I got that as well.
Ummmmm....
did you miss my original post for this thread, Kushan? :crazy2:
Oops. That would have required me to go all the way back to page 1, I only went back to page 2. ::)
;D
No blood no foul.
Quote from: Nefaro on December 08, 2016, 11:51:53 AM
Quote from: MengJiao on December 08, 2016, 05:59:48 AM
I need to replace my Cataphract! But you know, what is odd about that game (or maybe its just my copy which was apparently sat upon by Canadians in its youth long ago) is the amount of extra stuff in the game that you need some other game to play. And then there's that strategic-level in-game addeddum and what not. They should really redo all those Great Battles games to be more like Chariots of Fire and/or Hoplite. Which reminds me that there is some Dutch company bringing out some medieval games (one even covers Tincherbray 1106! Thats 1106 AD not am).
Okay. Get out there and get close to Nature....
Vae Victis has a beautiful medieval battle series I've been gravitating to.
I picked up The Lion And the Sword (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/72298/le-lion-et-lepee) awhile back.
Unfortunately, they're sold in folio format. Not too punishing on your wallet for getting one with a couple battles in it. But this format is expensive if you want more battles in the long run. Plus storage is an issue. I'd rather have more battles in a single box; saving on all the extra packaging costs inherent with doling them out bit by bit.
Yep. I got Bouvines and Worringen from that series. Richard in Cyprus sounds good too.
Quote from: Nefaro on December 08, 2016, 05:20:51 PM
Quote from: Kushan on December 08, 2016, 12:47:57 PM
Quote from: Nefaro on December 08, 2016, 11:54:49 AM
Quote from: Kushan on December 08, 2016, 01:20:07 AM
They announced Red Storm (http://www.gmtgames.com/p-614-red-storm.aspx) today...I promptly got it, even though its not a solo game and I have no one to play against. But 1980s air war over Germany, just take my money now. Then I noticed a Falling Sky Expansion was on P500 too, so I got that as well.
Ummmmm....
did you miss my original post for this thread, Kushan? :crazy2:
Oops. That would have required me to go all the way back to page 1, I only went back to page 2. ::)
;D
No blood no foul.
There is a definite aversion to first pages around here.
Just got this in an email:
QuoteHi everyone!
This note is to inform and update all of our European customers about the details of the Euro-friendly P500 option that we have been testing with our friends at Second Chance Games in the UK. After months of testing the process, we are now ready to give you official details of how this will work for your P500 orders as we move forward in 2017. Here are the key points:
You are eligible to use this Euro-friendly P500 shipping option if your delivery address for P500 orders is anywhere in Europe, including Eastern Europe and Russia. (but see #6 for note to non-EU countries)
This program is for P500 orders ONLY. Because it is a bulk processing agreement, we do not currently have the the ability to use it for individual non-P500 orders. When we bring our new system online sometime in January, it will include a fast-ship Euro-friendly option for all other orders.
Beginning with 2017 P500 shipments, (and hopefully coinciding with our new systems being up and running) you'll need to choose a new shipping option when you make your P500 orders. Choose the "Euro Friendly P500 Orders via SCG -VAT PREPAID to EU" shipping option. If you have existing P500 orders that are scheduled to ship in 2017 or later, please go into your account and update those orders with the new Euro-friendly shipping option. (We can't do this by batch for you guys because we have no way of knowing who will choose to use this option). It is especially urgent that you update your shipping type if you have a P500 order for FIELDS OF DESPAIR, which may well ship in January before our new systems are in place.
Note that European shipments using any other shipping type besides this one will be subject to normal VAT and delivery charges when they get to you, as always.
Note that this Euro friendly option will cost you more - roughly $7-12 - than our previous surface shipping would have, but all shipping, delivery, and VAT charges to EU countries are prepaid by us. What you pay when we charge a game will be your final landed charge. When you consider what VAT alone would be on a $70 game + shipping, we think this option will save quite a lot for you EU customers overall (with essentially a VAT discount where we are paying part of it and the removal of those annoying delivery charges).
For European customers who do not live in an EU country: You ARE still eligible to use this shipping option. Your game will ship from the UK, not the US, so it's likely this will save you on delivery charges - and perhaps Customs and VAT charges. But we can't at this time guarantee any of those savings for any country outside the EU because local laws vary from country to country. So please verify your country's rules and policies regarding VAT and Customs incoming from the UK before you choose this P500 shipping option so you'll know whether you're likely to incur any additional VAT/Customs charges.
We will provide a reminder note to update your account as well as details on our individual (non-P500) order fast shipping option as we approach our new systems launch in January.
I hope this information is helpful, and that this new Euro-friendly option will make P500 ordering easier and less costly for each of you.
Enjoy the games!
Gene
That sounds like good news. I'll have to check that out. I think Bob mentioned to me before about Second Chance Games
Red Storm sounds interesting. Any chance they take an Amazon gift card?
Quote from: OJsDad on December 09, 2016, 12:58:23 PM
Any chance they take an Amazon gift card?
I'll take one.
Actually, when I was on the shuttle bus coming to the airport, I was looking on my phone and didn't see it. But now that I'm at the airport, and able to look around Amazon on my laptop, they have a lot of GMT games, with Prime shipping. Just not seeing Red Storm yet.
I want THIS!
http://www.gmtgames.com/p-493-at-any-cost-metz-1870.aspx
Quote from: bob48 on December 09, 2016, 01:14:02 PM
I want THIS!
http://www.gmtgames.com/p-493-at-any-cost-metz-1870.aspx
Oooh. Me too!
Quote from: mirth on December 09, 2016, 11:22:55 AM
Just got this in an email:
Saw that. Good on GMT, reducing the extensive costs of shipping P500s over to European customers.
It's also really sad that all those extra costs are from extra "VAT" taxes and trade protections in Europe. A revolt against runaway taxation, every once in awhile, can be a good thing.
"Value Added Tax". Pfff. I think some politicians were having a piss at you Euro Plebs, calling it a name like that. So glad we don't have that VAT nonsense here. Tar & feathering territory.
GMT's P500 release schedule updated today.
Looks like they're lowering the load a bit over the next few months. Also said they hope to have their yearly sale once they get their new shipping system in place.. which is unknown.
********************************************************
Games with a ** following their entry are currently at the printer (we're a little more certain about scheduling on these).
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Shipping Now
Churchill 2nd Printing
Fields of Despair
Liberty or Death Reprint
February, 2017
Simple GBoH 2nd Edition **
March, 2017
Pericles **
April, 2017
Genesis Mounted Map**
Manoeuvre: Distant Lands**
Time of Crisis**
May, 2017
1960: The Making of the President (GMT Edition)
Fields of Fire (2nd Edition)
Illusions of Glory
Next War Supplement #1
Unconditional Surrender 2nd Printing
Unconditional Surrender Mounted Map Set
June, 2017
American Revolution Tri Pack
Brandywine Reprint
Colonial Twilight
July, 2017
Arquebus: Men of Iron Volume 4
Enemy Coast Ahead: The Doolittle Raid
Talon Reprint
Wild Blue Yonder
Remainder of 3Q, 2017
At Any Cost
Here I Stand 3rd Printing
Hitler's Reich
Holland '44
Invierno Cubano
No Retreat 3: France & Poland
Space Empires 4X Third Printing
Space Empires: Replicators
4Q, 2017
BAOR: MBT Expansion
Cataclysm
Commands & Colors: Medieval
Fields of Fire Volume II - With the Old Breed
FRG: MBT Expansion
Imperial Struggle
Mr. President
Next War: Poland
Pendragon
Skies Above the Reich
The Dark Sands
Welcome to Centerville
Quote from: Nefaro on January 25, 2017, 06:45:14 PM
May, 2017
....
Fields of Fire (2nd Edition)
.....
I cannot wait for this. One of my Grail games.
Quote from: Nefaro on January 25, 2017, 06:45:14 PM
4Q, 2017
....
Mr. President
....
This one for me. And yes, I'm going to build a wall.
I'd better start saving now. I can see at least a half dozen things on the list that will be must buys.
Quote from: Pinetree on January 26, 2017, 01:13:05 AM
Quote from: Nefaro on January 25, 2017, 06:45:14 PM
May, 2017
....
Fields of Fire (2nd Edition)
.....
I cannot wait for this. One of my Grail games.
Have been on that P500 for awhile now. At least it's starting to solidify.
just announced today
http://www.gmtgames.com/p-623-apocalypse-road.aspx
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^meh
Quote from: mirth on January 27, 2017, 12:32:14 PM
^meh
Drink a beer, you need perking up. Or something perky in your face.
Quote from: mirth on January 27, 2017, 12:32:14 PM
^meh
There was something about a re-issue of this protracted war and Sweden Fights on: 17 battles all in one box (as if having the English Civil Wars and the thirty years war at the same time wasn't such a good idea?).
Arquebusiers! looked fun too. I'll get out Infidel! and not punch it.
Mr. President does look intriguing.
GMT's Red Storm is getting solitaire. :bd:
http://www.insidegmt.com/?p=16953
EDIT:
aaaannd it just passed the P500 mark.
Now if GMT could ever get their warehousing debacle fingered out, maybe these P500s would stop getting continually pushed back and stacked up in a long queue. :-"
'At Any Cost' is one I'm waiting for, and maybe 'Dark Sands'.
"Ghandi" -- yep
"C&C:M" -- yep
"AR" is a great example of something I talked to a few folks at Origins about, viz.: GMT is obviously trying to broaden its reach and has been given the resources via a few monster sellers to do so. I may grouse about how it's shoved groggier stuff to the back of the queue, but, hey, in the end, if it means more games, I'm good.
What I do worry about, though, is whether P500 really is any more. My impression is that you'd best be in the 750-1,000 range before you're going to get bumped up into production, no matter what the notice on the tin says. That's a problem for groggier games as, for them, 500 is a damn fine number. Not so much for stuff like "AR", my opinion of which is very much of a piece with Mirth's.
Fort Sumter was recently announced. Looks interesting, but somehow I am kind of on the fence....maybe I just have too many CW games already.
https://www.gmtgames.com/p-648-fort-sumter-the-secession-crisis-1860-61.aspx (https://www.gmtgames.com/p-648-fort-sumter-the-secession-crisis-1860-61.aspx)
'The Hunted' is calling out to the completionist in me, begging to find a home on my shelf right next to 'The Hunters'.
I'm looking forward to the next Enemy Coast Ahead title, The Doolittle Raid.
I hope they do Ploesti after this one.
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on June 23, 2017, 07:37:48 PM
I'm looking forward to the next Enemy Coast Ahead title, The Doolittle Raid.
I hope they do Ploesti after this one.
Schweinfurt 1 and 2 would have Flying Forts instead of freight cars with Davis Wings.
Yeah but Schweinfurt doesn't really fit in with the theme of the series as well.
Too many planes at once? Not enough maneuvering?
I guess Ploesti's low-level attack requirements would make it more Dambuster-like.
Yup, pretty much. The precise timing and treetop level nature of the Ploesti raid sort of lends itself to the series' overall theme. Schweinfurt/Regensburg is too massive, I think.
The Tirpitz raid and maybe Penemunde (although that's probably too big as well) would also be interesting.
So many new ways for GMT to take my money
http://myemail.constantcontact.com/GMT-Update--July-19--2017--Fixing-a-Problem--Production-Update--General-News.html?soid=1103480314715&aid=xMZDbdK_Hus
Fields of Despair looks interesting. If only someone could have showed me how to play it...
You were too busy trying to find a game of Munchkin.
And that Master of Orion board game. :P
You really wanted that.
Not a single Napoleonic game in the bunch.
I may agitate...
^ Agitation is for COIN games. >:D
Speaking of which, I see Colonial Twilight: The French-Algierian War heading the list. It's the only one really designed for solitaire play, too.
Liberty or Death for a more traditional 4-player COIN game, is getting a reprint, too.
As for Napoleon, I saw this in the list: https://www.gmtgames.com/p-632-austerlitz-1805-rising-eagles.aspx
Quote from: JasonPratt on July 20, 2017, 10:32:50 AM
Speaking of which, I see Colonial Twilight: The French-Algierian War heading the list. It's the only one really designed for solitaire play, too.
no, it's designed for 2-player play, but only having 1 bot to control instead of 3 makes it much more solitaire-friendly
"Designed for 2-players", "a full solitaire system" being marketed at maximum "solitaire suitability". Not denying the former, just parroting the latter. >:D
We're seeing more of that these days - games being made with a built-in solitaire system. Fields of Despair is a two player game, with a solitaire system out of the box.
Fields of Despair has solitaire play? :o
Quote from: bbmike on July 20, 2017, 10:55:51 AM
Fields of Despair has solitaire play? :o
only for non-Munchkins
Quote from: bbmike on July 20, 2017, 10:55:51 AM
Fields of Despair has solitaire play? :o
It does.
Gonna get charged for Fields Of Fire 2nd Edition next week. :)
My other nearest one is the American Revolution Tri-Pack. I've not played any of their AmRev series, and the single box reprint of these looked like a great value. Supposedly due in September, but who knows? When it originally went on the print list, it was scheduled for ~December of 2016, but just kept getting pushed due to their warehouse issues. >:(
Looking forward to Red Storm the most, especially since it will have solitaire. But, despite passing it's P500 goal, it's one of the games not being added to the print list because of the warehousing thing. :-\ I hope they get that SNAFU sorted. It's been an issue for what? Over a year?
I ordered the American Revolution Tri-Pack a while back. I've played Pensacola 1781 and I think it plays about the same. Great fun!
And now that I know that Fields of Despair can be played solo I"m trying to talk myself out of buying that. :D
Quote from: bbmike on July 20, 2017, 11:46:45 AM
And now that I know that Fields of Despair can be played solo I"m trying to talk myself out of buying that. :D
It is a great game.
Quote from: mirth on July 20, 2017, 11:47:56 AM
Quote from: bbmike on July 20, 2017, 11:46:45 AM
And now that I know that Fields of Despair can be played solo I"m trying to talk myself out of buying that. :D
It is a great game.
Twisting that knife all around.
>:D
That's why I'm here :P
Looks like The Russian Campaign: Designer Signature Edition is going to be out mid-2018. :)
Groggy
I'm not sure if some games have genuinely been delayed again, or if GMT is now building a safety margin into their estimated release date/period.
"Early" 2018 became "Early-mid 2018" for the CSW games.
Also: I wonder what the deal is with Bear's Claw, as it was initially supposed to be released about two years (early 2016) before the currently scheduled release.
Quote from: GroggyGrognard on July 21, 2017, 10:27:28 PM
Looks like The Russian Campaign: Designer Signature Edition is going to be out mid-2018. :)
Groggy
From GMT?
Soooo.. late 2019 then.
Monthly Update
http://myemail.constantcontact.com/August-21-GMT-Update--New-P500s--Digital-Update--Production--More-.html?soid=1103480314715&aid=gDh3QbERlms
Compared to the beginning of the year, the delays (if any) for P500 titles are now at a few months up to potentially nearly a year for the CSW titles. Not too bad, but waiting for good things can be difficult at times. Surely, our patience will be rewarded.
Maybe GMT will suddenly get everything out the door in a hurry when their systems are fully functional again.
As an aside: as predicted, shipping costs for Holland '44 are a bit less than the discount but still close to it with the Euro friendly shipping option. It would've been worse if it still had to be shipped from the US.
Though I understand the reasoning behind P500, not being able to get multiple games at the same time to save on shipping costs is unfortunate. Considering how quickly some of these games end up being sold out again, waiting for their official release isn't the safest option.
As I shared with Brant the other night, I am NOT complaining here -- we're aswim in filthy, filthy gaming lucre and I love it -- but I think we're officially at the point where they need to rename P500 to P1000 or the like.
The reality is, absent a special case (Silver Bayonet) or COIN games, P500 ain't the top of the queue any more.
The Magic Eight Ball tells me Richard Borg is sitting on a fair amount of C&C:N content that he can't even get them to look at...only so much room at the inn, I suppose.
Still, great stuff in that pile.
Quote from: Cyrano on August 25, 2017, 02:45:51 PM
As I shared with Brant the other night, I am NOT complaining here -- we're aswim in filthy, filthy gaming lucre and I love it -- but I think we're officially at the point where they need to rename P500 to P1000 or the like.
The reality is, absent a special case (Silver Bayonet) or COIN games, P500 ain't the top of the queue any more.
The Magic Eight Ball tells me Richard Borg is sitting on a fair amount of C&C:N content that he can't even get them to look at...only so much room at the inn, I suppose.
Still, great stuff in that pile.
Naaaa.
GMT just needs to expand their distro capabilities. Which they've been talking about getting done for nearly two years, but still haven't finished (more on that below).
Their business, and their P500s, have been booming. Which should be a great thing. But demand is higher than their capacity to supply, and they haven't yet been able to properly address the disparity. Despite recognizing it quite awhile back.
I suspect GMT will eventually get their problems sorted. Otherwise game creators will start taking their game designs elsewhere, if their titles keep getting pushed back on the wait list due to warehousing and distribution issues at the publisher. It's apparent, from all the past updates, that their issues stem from those two distro bottlenecks - not the outsourced manufacturing.
The recent announcement that they canned whichever company they hired to expand their warehousing & logistics, after a long period of little or no progress, is a sign they recognize these issues. I hope they find the right people, and get it all sorted, for some nice filthy win-win capitalism in the end. :) ^-^
Growth is hard and I've noticed the struggles you refer to in addition to those I mentioned.
I, assuredly, hope you are correct.
Is logistics the chokepoint, or is it production? They have so much content pumping into their production system at one time these days that I wonder if it's backing up and slowing everything down.
Quote from: Arctic Blast on August 26, 2017, 06:12:29 PM
Is logistics the chokepoint, or is it production? They have so much content pumping into their production system at one time these days that I wonder if it's backing up and slowing everything down.
It is primarily warehousing/logistics, judging from all the past GMT updates on the topic.
I always check their update newsletter, on their site, to get updates about when my P500s are going to be charged. Which is the same time they're sent to whichever outside party prints them. Apparently they have more than one option regarding production company, since they mentioned dropping one after a couple instances of misaligned counter printings awhile back. It didn't slow the production down, so that end must not be a problem, other than keeping a watch on quality control.
But I also read their actual news
letter, at the beginning of each. The last two years (or more??), they've mentioned their logistics issues due to their increasing business, and their quest to fix them. First trying to expand a bit, themselves, then outsourcing the big plan. Then booting at least one outside business that wasn't making progress. They've obviously had problems in getting it done. I have some sympathy regarding getting Murphy'd.
From what I gathered it's primarily two things. Getting new unified website, sales, and inventory software. Plus streamlining & expanding their warehouse ops.
Yeah, re-jigging your entire distro and warehouse operation is awful. I've been a part of something like that in a couple of previous jobs, and it always ends up being a lot more difficult and time consuming than everyone involved assumes it will be. :D
Quote from: Arctic Blast on August 27, 2017, 03:53:01 PM
Yeah, re-jigging your entire distro and warehouse operation is awful. I've been a part of something like that in a couple of previous jobs, and it always ends up being a lot more difficult and time consuming than everyone involved assumes it will be. :D
Yes, indeed!
Makes me think perhaps I should've gotten involved in the business of warehouse reorganization long ago. There has obviously been an increasing need for it in general.
It will be interesting to see if their new Euro friendly delivery option, done through bulk deliveries to Second Chance Games which then ship to European customers the way I understand it, will make things more or less complicated.
Though shipping bulk is less demanding on the supply chain than shipping individual copies, it might take a while before European customers are aware of the option and start using it. I'm also not sure how many European customers GMT has to begin with, but even bulk shipments to game stores done through a middle man like Second Chance Games might be more convenient for GMT.
I just finished punching the 880 counters in Fields Of Fire 2nd Edition.
They need to stop skimping on the size of their boxes. I can't even fit a counter tray into this thing, and still get it to close all the way, with the cards & components all in it. The box isn't quite thick enough. I had the same problem with Empire of the Sun.
That has been a regular problem with their games lately. The ones that include many cards and a buttload of counters, yet are still put in their thinner box size.
They need to start using the deeper boxes more often. :knuppel2:
Being charged for Holland 44, so hope to have it in my possession in a few weeks. Then it's on to waiting for reprints of Ardennes 44 and France 40.
Quote from: Nefaro on August 29, 2017, 05:46:54 PM
I just finished punching the 880 counters in Fields Of Fire 2nd Edition.
They need to stop skimping on the size of their boxes. I can't even fit a counter tray into this thing, and still get it to close all the way, with the cards & components all in it. The box isn't quite thick enough. I had the same problem with Empire of the Sun.
That has been a regular problem with their games lately. The ones that include many cards and a buttload of counters, yet are still put in their thinner box size.
They need to start using the deeper boxes more often. :knuppel2:
Agreed, I just go this one also, and am not sure how I'm going to organize it. And then there are other games I get (not from GMT) where I wonder why in the world the box is so huge.
Quote from: Bison on September 03, 2017, 05:04:39 PM
Being charged for Holland 44, so hope to have it in my possession in a few weeks. Then it's on to waiting for reprints of Ardennes 44 and France 40.
I like the look of 'Holland '44'
I pre-ordered The Doolittle Raid but a few months ago, I got hit with credit card fraud and had to change my card. I forgot to update my CC number with GMT. They never bothered to send an email or anything. Just let it slip. Oh well, I haven't had good luck with GMT's P500 stuff in the past either so I think I'll just buy from a local store in the future.
SDR, go to their website and live chat with them, they'll sort it out pretty quickly for you.
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Quote from: Bison on September 03, 2017, 05:04:39 PM
Being charged for Holland 44, so hope to have it in my possession in a few weeks. Then it's on to waiting for reprints of Ardennes 44 and France 40.
I like the look of 'Holland '44'
It does look good, but truth be told I'm not a huge fan of overlapping map sheets. They just seem messy and my plexiglass isn't big enough to cover the whole map. At least that's what I found with Ukraine 43.
However.........
I'm now hooked on the OCS games from MMP. Just got 'Tunisia II' and have 'Sicily II' on order. I'd love 'Beyond the Rhine' but its enormous and the price is outta my league.
I'd love to get into the OCS games, but I don't see that happening. Outside of the Simonvitch operational series, I've been looking at and playing games with lower counter densities and less complex rules. Of course, that's crap because I'm going to be getting Operation Dauntless at some point. It looks too good to pass up. And the map....oh my!
Operation Dauntless definitely does not qualify as less complex.
No. Not at all. But it looks fantastic and covers an interesting battle and units. Frankly Bob should be all over it.
OSC? Reluctant Enemies is a good one to start with. I've been playing it with a buddy (who got me hooked on the system) and we're now playing Tunisia II on Vassal.
I can honestly say that I'm very impressed with the system and wish I had been convinced (by my buddy) to look at it before. Its been around for a good few years and is a very refined system. In particular, I'm impressed by the way the system handles logistics and air power - not complicated at all but it has a lot of depth.
If, like me, you like operational level games, then this system is hard to beat.
Quote from: Bison on September 13, 2017, 05:08:56 PM
No. Not at all. But it looks fantastic and covers an interesting battle and units. Frankly Bob should be all over it.
I have looked at it, and it scares the daylight out of me..............it looks very interesting and I got as far as getting the rules off GMT's site - but..........too many games...........not enough disposable income!
Also, see my comments re OCS :)
The POLAR BEARS come on Bob!
Yeah, I know >:(
Its one of the few "D-Day" games that is exclusively British units. I know its not D-Day, but shortly there after but you get my point.
I do, because I have long lamented the lack of such games. One of the reasons why I would like 'Beyond the Rhine' is that it includes a scenario that covers the Breskens Pocket and clearing the Scheldt. I really find the operations by 21st Army Group to be of great interest.
Book tip - 'The Long Left Flank' by Jeffery Williams follows Canadian 1st Army and is an excellent read.
A new battalion level Bulge game, inspired by several classics, on the P500 list this month: A time for trumpets. It's selling like hotcakes.
Not GMT, but regarding the Scheldt Campaign, you are aware of this?
https://hollandspiele.com/products/the-scheldt-campaign (https://hollandspiele.com/products/the-scheldt-campaign)
I am indeed aware. However, as usual, shipping costs usually are prohibitive and, as yet, there are no distributers this side of the pond.
Bob, do you and your buddy play your Vassal OCS games live?
Quote from: Ubercat on September 23, 2017, 08:43:53 PM
Bob, do you and your buddy play your Vassal OCS games live?
Yes we do, and use Steam chat whilst doing so.
hawt
https://twitter.com/gmtgames/status/918261016579907584
Quote from: ComradeP on September 23, 2017, 08:12:38 AM
A new battalion level Bulge game, inspired by several classics, on the P500 list this month: A time for trumpets. It's selling like hotcakes.
A Time for Trumpets...that's the title of a massive Bulge book by a guy who was an infantry captain in the battle. I'll go look at the game.
Quote from: Bison on September 13, 2017, 05:14:10 PM
The POLAR BEARS come on Bob!
Yep. The entire West Riding Division and a whole armored Brigade in very good colors. You're never going to see a British mechanized battalion rolling out with 15 units in any other company-level game. The rules need some simplifying, though, I think.
Quote from: MengJiao on October 11, 2017, 08:00:43 PM
Quote from: ComradeP on September 23, 2017, 08:12:38 AM
A new battalion level Bulge game, inspired by several classics, on the P500 list this month: A time for trumpets. It's selling like hotcakes.
A Time for Trumpets...that's the title of a massive Bulge book by a guy who was an infantry captain in the battle. I'll go look at the game.
Not particularly excited about the Bulge at the moment. But it looks like somebody might want to check on the Latin that tends to surface in the Pendragon thing. Sure its just a counter-insurgency but wouldn't Adventus Saxon(some plural 2nd declension like -orum) need to be a genitive? Its the Adventus of the Saxons, not the Saxon Advent. right?
Quote from: MengJiao on October 11, 2017, 08:18:46 PM
Quote from: MengJiao on October 11, 2017, 08:00:43 PM
Quote from: ComradeP on September 23, 2017, 08:12:38 AM
A new battalion level Bulge game, inspired by several classics, on the P500 list this month: A time for trumpets. It's selling like hotcakes.
A Time for Trumpets...that's the title of a massive Bulge book by a guy who was an infantry captain in the battle. I'll go look at the game.
Not particularly excited about the Bulge at the moment. But it looks like somebody might want to check on the Latin that tends to surface in the Pendragon thing. Sure its just a counter-insurgency but wouldn't Adventus Saxon(some plural 2nd declension like -orum) need to be a genitive? Its the Adventus of the Saxons, not the Saxon Advent. right?
Oh, dear. I looked this up on the internets and it is Adventus Saxonum (or the more logical Adventus Anglorum) ie the Saxon Arrival or the Arrival of the Angles. So somebody else ought to check on Pendragon for a change.
https://twitter.com/gmtgames/status/918273734250598400
It's not a "battalion" from 2ACR. It's a "squadron"
The unit size symbol looks to be a regiment on that unit.
Quote from: BanzaiCat on October 12, 2017, 05:55:51 AM
The unit size symbol looks to be a regiment on that unit.
you're right - I didn't even look at that. I was just referring to the terminology. In the cav, "battalions" are called "squadrons". It's a cav thing :cowboy:
No, I get that. I thought 'squadron' denoted a much smaller unit but I was wrong.
Quote from: BanzaiCat on October 12, 2017, 06:30:40 AM
No, I get that. I thought 'squadron' denoted a much smaller unit but I was wrong.
US Army
(everyone else) Brigade -> Battalion -> Company -> Platoon
(cav) Regiment -> Squadron -> Troop -> Platoon
(artillery) Brigade -> Battalion -> Battery -> Platoon
Note that in the US Army at this point, the "regiment" is a ceremonial designation, and not a maneuver element, except in the cav.
the Brits are even weirder, b/c they use "troop" for "platoon" and "squadron" for "company"
It's funny because it came up while I was reviewing War in the Wind. There's a couple of Recon/Scout companies involved in the invasion of Attu, marked with a cavalry symbol, and several platoon-sized elements with cav symbols (which can be broken off from the Recon or Scout companies if the US player so desires). I kept thinking the platoon elements were 'troops' but I knew I was incorrect. Glad I didn't do a video review and screw that up on camera.
^You do reviews for this site? :-"
Quote from: bbmike on October 12, 2017, 08:26:12 AM
^You do reviews for this site? :-"
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I think I have one or two more than y'all do.
^ :2funny:
Quote from: BanzaiCat on October 12, 2017, 08:35:05 AM
I think I have one or two more than y'all do.
I, for one, look forward to the deluge of submissions from both Mirth and BBMike for consideration for the front page.
Quote from: bayonetbrant on October 12, 2017, 08:44:41 AM
Quote from: BanzaiCat on October 12, 2017, 08:35:05 AM
I think I have one or two more than y'all do.
I, for one, look forward to the deluge of submissions from both Mirth and BBMike for consideration for the front page.
The front what now?
Oh that thing.
Is it bigger than a breadbox?
Quote from: ComradeP on September 23, 2017, 08:12:38 AM
A new battalion level Bulge game, inspired by several classics, on the P500 list this month: A time for trumpets. It's selling like hotcakes.
thank you! :)
...and it's already made the cut and with a little bit more love from everyone could be delivered EU-friendly before the brexit guys close the curtain. please?! :coolsmiley:
cheers!
As noted on this week's GrogCast, "p500" seems to refer to the number of games perpetually stuck on it
Holland '44 has arrived.
It arrived about a month or so after shipping started according to GMT, and it went through Second Chance Games using the Euro-friendly shipping option.
Second Chance Games sent it by air mail, so very good service on their end. The package would probably have survived a direct hit from AA fire with all the stuff they put in it.
I hope that, when GMT gets its act together again after the distribution/website changes, they do manage to update the status of games going through the Euro-friendly shipping process as well, as my copy is "not yet shipped" according to GMT.
Their shipping must be behind again.
Been waiting for the American Revolution Tri-pack to get shipped. Thought they were all supposed to be out by the middle of the week, but the conveyor must be gunked once more. :D
Quote from: Nefaro on October 25, 2017, 11:38:53 PM
Their shipping must be behind again.
Been waiting for the American Revolution Tri-pack to get shipped. Thought they were all supposed to be out by the middle of the week, but the conveyor must be gunked once more. :D
Yeah, I'm waiting on that one as well.
Quote from: bbmike on October 26, 2017, 08:24:56 AM
Quote from: Nefaro on October 25, 2017, 11:38:53 PM
Their shipping must be behind again.
Been waiting for the American Revolution Tri-pack to get shipped. Thought they were all supposed to be out by the middle of the week, but the conveyor must be gunked once more. :D
Yeah, I'm waiting on that one as well.
Mine just got shipped today.
Via 2-day shipping again, it seems. That must've cost a chunk, coming from Coastiefornia. At least they try to make up some shipping time when things are behind schedule. :)
^Mine just arrived. O0
Just received my "Here I Stand" 500th Anniversary Upgrade Kit so I got that going for me.
So how does this work? I'm looking to purchase Fire in the Lake but it seems as though it's awaiting a reprint. Do I order it and just hope it eventually sells enough to make a reprint?
Is there any way to see where they are are as far as sales go?
Quote from: Moreb on October 29, 2017, 12:33:00 AM
So how does this work? I'm looking to purchase Fire in the Lake but it seems as though it's awaiting a reprint. Do I order it and just hope it eventually sells enough to make a reprint?
Is there any way to see where they are are as far as sales go?
Yes.
It says, on the game's GMT P500 page, how many people are signed up for the reprint.
Once it goes past 500 pre-orders, they put it in the queue. Then you'll probably be waiting for 10-18 months for it to travel down the wait list.
Make sure you account for them charging you, in the distant future, for your P500 pre-orders. Easy to forget, and I often don't see the email notification of the charge going through until it already has. No biggie, but I just end up having to keep this stuff in mind when I balance my account, which will be off until they finally charge it a year-plus later.
Dang. That's a long wait. I'm not sure I'm that patient. The problem would come in because I rarely keep a debit card for a year. Do they usually make enough reprints that other vendors will sell it? or are they only making enough to fill their P 500?
Thanks. This is one hard game to find. New in SW is nearly $300. Too much for me to spend.
Quote from: Moreb on October 29, 2017, 08:50:58 AM
Dang. That's a long wait. I'm not sure I'm that patient. The problem would come in because I rarely keep a debit card for a year. Do they usually make enough reprints that other vendors will sell it? or are they only making enough to fill their P 500?
Thanks. This is one hard game to find. New in SW is nearly $300. Too much for me to spend.
If a P500 goes to print, they produce extras for retail.
The price often ends up being close to the P500 price, depending on which retailer you buy it from. There are only two potential problems with waiting:
1) If it's struggling to pass the 500 pre-order mark, it may take even longer to get to print if people aren't signing up.
2) There are still only limited quantities of extras printed for retail. The popular ones often become scarce once again. So if you wait to pick up a retail copy, make sure you're watching & ready to get one after it hits stores. Because the stocks won't last too long if it's fairly popular.
Reason #2 is usually the biggest issue. It's the reason there have been some games getting a 3rd printing (or more!) P500. So it could be back to the long waiting list if you miss the opportunity.
SONOFAB*TCH.
I order a second-edition "Flying Colors" from Enterprise (where you should all shop) not long ago just because the counters are a little better and I wanted that stupid "In Chains" thing fixed. I've more recently been on the hunt for an affordable "Ship of the Line".
What do they announce today?: a DELUXE third edition with all the "SotL" stuff plus extra goodies.
In fairness, the P500 price of the 3e is below the current go rate for "SotL" alone, but I a) am going to have to wait FOREVER now, and b) am going to have a hard time explaining having three copies of the same game, more or less, around the house.
And I suspect the sound you all hear in the distance is the price of "SotL" crashing on the secondary market. Too funny...
Quote from: Cyrano on November 20, 2017, 09:41:33 PM
What do they announce today?: a DELUXE third edition with all the "SotL" stuff plus extra goodies.
Aw, man. I'm fine when it's a game that is fairly old, and has been out of print for awhile.
However, I've been having this happen to newer titles I've purchased in the last few years. Some of which I've never even played. They come out with a revised second edition while the first one is still fresh.
Not talking about simple reprints, of course, but those with rules and/or component changes, quick on the heels of the original, that I would have to re-purchase, at full price, all over again. Makes me feel like I was just someone paying to playtest an unfinished game, or funding a higher quality run with my unknowingly early adoption. :-\
This is probably old news by now, and I'm to lazy to go search through the entire thread, but looks like Red Storm: The Air War Over Central Germany, 1987 finally made it! Really looking forward to it.
Quote from: Kushan on November 27, 2017, 01:04:44 AM
This is probably old news by now, and I'm to lazy to go search through the entire thread, but looks like Red Storm: The Air War Over Central Germany, 1987 finally made it! Really looking forward to it.
I think it passed 500 quite awhile back. Not too long after it hit P500. :)
GMT just didn't add many new P500s to their manufacturing list, in the past year, after they had made the grade. They specifically stated they were delaying the addition of them. One was definitely Red Storm. It was quite awhile between passing the goal and getting on the 'to do' list.
GMT is very good at finding new ways to get my money.
Quote from: mirth on November 28, 2017, 10:30:42 AM
Hookers are very good at finding new ways to get my money.
FTFY
Was looking for the right post to do this!! Thanks Mirth! O0
Quote from: Nefaro on November 27, 2017, 10:11:24 PM
Quote from: Kushan on November 27, 2017, 01:04:44 AM
This is probably old news by now, and I'm to lazy to go search through the entire thread, but looks like Red Storm: The Air War Over Central Germany, 1987 finally made it! Really looking forward to it.
I think it passed 500 quite awhile back. Not too long after it hit P500. :)
GMT just didn't add many new P500s to their manufacturing list, in the past year, after they had made the grade. They specifically stated they were delaying the addition of them. One was definitely Red Storm. It was quite awhile between passing the goal and getting on the 'to do' list.
Could have sworn when I checked a few months ago it was still around 100 short of making it.
Quote from: acctingman on November 28, 2017, 12:08:54 PM
Quote from: mirth on November 28, 2017, 10:30:42 AM
Hookers are very good at finding new ways to get my money.
FTFY
Was looking for the right post to do this!! Thanks Mirth! O0
Well played.
There's a thin line between complicated and convoluted, and I don't mind complicated rules but do mind convoluted rules.
I'm currently reading through the At any cost: Metz 1870 rules, a game which I've pre-ordered. They're not exactly intuitive thus far. They're clear but very flexible, presumably because the game aims at recreating battlefield uncertainty. I really like the ideas showcased in the various articles on Inside GMT, but wonder how long it will take before you can play a battle without looking at the rule book every minute.
From the looks of it, the C in PAC stands for Compendium here.
A single player aid card isn't nearly going to be enough to cover this.
I'm looking to get AAC as well, and I have the rules downloaded. What helps me is that I have the game that the system is derived from; 'Position Magnifique' (formerly Duel of Eagles).
Personally, I never really feel comfortable with game rules until I can put pieces on the board. At that point, I can muddle through the rules and actually learn the game. I looked at both the playbook and rules for AAC and I was surprised at the lack of illustrations for gameplay examples.
So, a Finnish civil war COIN game and more COIN reprints as well as some mounted maps. The first new batch of P500 additions will still be delayed until next year.
After the card issue for Colonial Twilight due to a bad print run, now it seems an entire map is missing from the Wing Leader: Blitz boxes that had been shipped before GMT noticed it. That's not great.
Quote from: ComradeP on December 19, 2017, 02:19:51 AM
So, a Finnish civil war COIN game and more COIN reprints as well as some mounted maps. The first new batch of P500 additions will still be delayed until next year.
After the card issue for Colonial Twilight due to a bad print run, now it seems an entire map is missing from the Wing Leader: Blitz boxes that had been shipped before GMT noticed it. That's not great.
I had been signed up for the WL:Blitz P500, but cancelled a month or two ago, planning on waiting to see how it turned out. Made the right call.
At the moment, I don't have any doubts about the quality of the actual game. It seems a few new interesting features will be added, and it's good that the series will continue to be expanded so it offers more variation. GMT's presumably feeling the Christmas crush which leads to a few things being done with slightly less focus than they should be.
Decided to get in on the 3rd edition of Flying Colors and while I was at it I got Wing Leader 2nd edition as well. I didn't want to but it was like it was calling my name...
Now off to get Pendragon set up on the dining room table.
GMT's assault on my wallet continues - https://www.gmtgames.com/p-688-flashpoint-south-china-sea.aspx
I've stopped reading my P500 emails for the time being. I have a pile of games to read the rules and play before I consider any new ones.
Shipping Now:
Space Empires: Replicators
<:-) :smitten:
[and no, I haven't taken the shrink wrap off Fields of Despair yet]
Quote from: Bison on February 20, 2018, 08:17:14 PM
I've stopped reading my P500 emails for the time being. I have a pile of games to read the rules and play before I consider any new ones.
I don't read the emails either. I saw the new Flashpoint game on Twitter.
I read the emails. :hide:
Quote from: bbmike on February 21, 2018, 07:09:00 AM
I read the emails. :hide:
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F78.media.tumblr.com%2Ff6e9d994a7066bbad062e7f9f40ee3bd%2Ftumblr_nqtfw02UZc1r5rk9to5_r1_540.gif&hash=37926535b9265183a143cfdc8876137815159d79)
The State of Crisis: Setting the Stage for Flashpoint: South China Sea
http://www.insidegmt.com/?p=19035 (http://www.insidegmt.com/?p=19035)