I want to know particularly what stage it is at. Whether it's worth waiting longer before pulling the trigger.
Am interested in having a look. But it is very expensive for early access. Seems to have been in development for many years.
Is it another star citizen? i.e. a long development cycle. I don't want to get involved if the game is still years away.
https://warofrights.com/
Nah, man. I wrote this one off when I saw it is MP only. I really haven't looked too deeply into it.
I did a search and this was the first post that came up. Can it really be that nothing has been posted about this since 2017?
It's on steam of course rather than the original link I posted in 2017.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/424030/War_of_Rights/
I have been really enjoying this game over the last few days. Up to 400 people in a server and I am told during peak they do get some pretty good numbers. I want to see an event with a full server as this game is spectacular. When I have been playing their have only been 20-50 people on a public server. I do hear though that a lot of the community do closed server events. They seem desperate for players just like Holdfast was though. The problem with events though is that if you are international they really never work out to be convienient.
Now you ask why I have been enjoying the game? Because unlike Holdfast: Nations at War, it has a mechanic that allows you to spawn on the standard bearer as long as their is an officer around to ratify the deal. So even if the formation is moving around you can keep filling your ranks. Holdfast really missed a trick on this one, although Holdfast did attract a larger albeit less mature imho crowd.
In addition to being able to spawn on the flag to stop the game becoming walking simulator 2022, if you are "out of line", "skirmishing a little from the line" or "in line", when you die you get different morale penalties for your side. Stay in line and their are no penalties, skirmish even a few meters from the line and it's 40% and out of line is an 80% penalty. One side wins when the other side eventually is considered to break.
The reload sequence is a joy to watch and even includes priming the pan. It takes a helluva long time to reload but pressing and holding ALT to move your head around during this animation helps make sure you don't die in place. R cancels reload. I die the most while reloading.
There are lots of other cool little touches like suppression and movement types, shoulder weapon, quick time, all out sprint which basically makes you puff and huff so much you cannot shoot.
I cannot quite figure it out yet but I think on the CSA side something triggers a Rebel Yell? I imagine the Union side has something similar if more reserved which I probably have not noticed.
The levels\maps all seem to have video back stories and comprehensive contexts.
Cannon are now in game and Cavalry are supposed to eventually be coming. In addition can you believe the developers are Danish... what the hell? The game is still in early access after all these years but eminently playable.
War of Rights is so simulator like compared to Holdfast as well. The game is spectacular looking and has some amazing mechanics. I kinda just love standing around and loading my weapon and bayonet and generally firing at nothing in particular that I can hit.
A major patch with some new features like destructible terrain has just been dropped, so I guess War of Rights is still actively being worked on.
Sometimes I am just in the mood to follow a bunch of guys around and do what the CO tells me.
I'd prefer a Napoleonic game exactly like this, but the ACW will do me.
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Negative. I've come close to buying it on sale several times, but it is multiplayer only, and well, you know how I feel about that.
It looks great though. I heard they were working on other time periods and wars.
Holy crap. Other time periods. Colour me amazingly interested. Where did you hear that. Source? I'd love to read about that.
I actually had no idea you were so adverse to multiplayer games, I guess you mean multiplayer "only" more specifically.
The evidence of course is staring me in the face in the second post in this thread though... I must have just forgotten and a lot of games you play have both.
I may be confusing the news of different wars and theaters with Battle Cry of Freedom.
...and yes, I have nothing against multiplayer, per se, but I don't like games that offer no single player experience.
I have had the game for a while, and generally I like it. But I haven't played recently; just too busy with other games. Also, there is Battle Cry of Freedom that is some very good competition.
During my time on, I found the MP community to be mature, and mostly interested in the game as simulation. I did not see the juvenile antics you can see with other games.
I also liked the mechanic that encouraged players to stay in formation.
The only real issue I have with the game is that I never saw enough players on to really simulate anything more than small skirmishes. I think the game would benefit tremendously from bots.
I would buy this yesterday if there was even a whiff of a single player campaign.
I agree with you guys here in that it's sad these historical games only do multiplayer. It's a missed opportunity for the devs. I will add that I own and have played both these titles. War of Rights seems more realistic and aims to be more of a sim for virtual unit roleplay. Battle Cry Freedom seems more game than sim, it's built off the bannerlord engine and has bots to flesh out units in line battles. With each player commanding 30 to 50 bots, battles look a lot more realistic. Also, with use of the bannerlord engine, seems the devs would have the means to add SP content of bannerlord just adapted for civil war......no plans for them to do this though. You can purchase Battle Cry Freedom pretty cheap on steam, and I'd imagine both games will be discounted for Christmas sale.
There's also Holdfast, the Napoleonic version of these games that also recently added bots for line battles and has content for WWI.
^Do you have Holdfast? If so do the bots make the game interesting enough to warrant buying for single player?
^I've experimented with Hold Fast and the bots and it is pretty cool.
Hmm...WWI content too...
I actually think that with these sort of games AI bots of which you would just be one of kind of spoil the fun. I mean why not just play a top down RTS if you want to stand in line with bots? I could though understand a human side VS a bot side... coop in other words. But not mixed human and bots vs mixed humans and bots.
Why? Because humans act very differently to AI in first person games and the whole experience of humans getting in line rather than robots (ai) marching around like perfectly sychronised Prussians is more interesting to me.
As for Holdfast. I like that game but the lack of proper flag mechanics just let it down badly.
As for the mount and blade warband engine game. I cannot imagine that being as good quality as war of rights.
Add to that that a friend of mine actually played during prime time today and did get hundreds of players on a server. He did not screen cap the numbers unfortunately but War of Rights still seems to be popular. It's certainly more surreal than the competition by a country mile.
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^Those shots are amazing.
There was an old game called Darkest of Days that involved time travel in which the player engaged in combat in a lot of unique times and eras. One of them was the Civil War and I distinctly remember the battles feeling inherently authentic. I recall feeling like it was one of the best representations of Civil War era combat that I had seen in a game up until that time. It was, of course, single player and campaign based.
i think it is still available on Steam. Wonder how it has held up over time.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on December 15, 2022, 09:24:28 AM
i think it is still available on Steam. Wonder how it has held up over time.
Unfortunately it was delisted from Steam a little over a year ago. It's no longer available at all digitally, so the only option to revisit it would appear to be tracking down a physical copy. It was released on disc for PC and Xbox 360.
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Quote from: Jarhead0331 on December 15, 2022, 09:24:28 AM
i think it is still available on Steam. Wonder how it has held up over time.
Unfortunately it was delisted from Steam a little over a year ago. It's no longer available at all digitally, so the only option to revisit it would appear to be tracking down a physical copy. It was released on disc for PC and Xbox 360.
That is too bad. It is still in my Steam library. Maybe I'll fire it up for old time's sake?
I have given into temptation like that and been sorely disappointed in recent years. Sometimes the memories are better.
With the Christmas sale looming you could probably get any of these game for 10bucks or lower and try them out.
I want to try out Isonzo with bots too, but my time playing that way with Verdun and Tannenberg was limited.
We could probably do an entire thread on the debate over bots.
I was sold on them years ago when the Napoleonic Wars mod came out for Mount & Blade Warband.
For those not initiated, the M&B WB NW mod has a "Commander Battle" MP mode that allows each player to command their own unit of about 30 Napoleonic troops. Nothing like watching your line of bots volley fire into a hussar charge; complete with smoke. Or, standing in line with your boys as you trade shots with an enemy unit; you can hear the bullets buzzing by as you stand there, against the enemy fire, awaiting your fate.
With each player commanding about 30 troops or so, M&B WB NW battles can become rather large and you can almost feel what it would have been really like.
BTW, M&B Warband Nap Wars is still going strong multi-player wise and worth the investment (particularly on sale when it usually goes for under $5). As far as I can tell, the juveniles have long left the building and the MP crowd is fun to be with. The mod is an official DLC of M&B Warband, so it is supported.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on December 15, 2022, 10:10:33 AM
That is too bad. It is still in my Steam library. Maybe I'll fire it up for old time's sake?
If you do, be sure to post your impressions on how well it holds up. If it's still fun, I may look at tracking down an x360 copy.
There could be quite a debate about bots if someone started one. It would probably lead to being lockdown like a hot R&P thread however.
That being said I truly understand both sides of the argument (IOW for and against bots). Pure adrenalin junkies don't like bots because they thrive off of the challenge of facing a real human opponent, whilst lone wolfs who would rather get their jollies alone prefer to play with bots.
I used to despise playing with real people until I found a couple of multiplayer shooters that actually do have a decent 'azzhat' free community. Now I don't mind playing against/with real people. I still do however love to have bots included as an option simply because there are days I just want to be left alone.
I am not afraid.
Quote from: Destraex on December 14, 2022, 07:11:41 AM
I did a search and this was the first post that came up. Can it really be that nothing has been posted about this since 2017?
It's on steam of course rather than the original link I posted in 2017.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/424030/War_of_Rights/
Terrific screenshots. The game looks quite immersive and I'm real tempted to pick this up during the upcoming winter sale.
A couple of questions:
Do the battles have any other formation besides line? In other words, can you participate in a battle that have say skirmish formations?
Are there regiments or companies that you can join and be devoted to? Sort of like joining a clan in a multiplayer FPS shooter game.
Thanks.
I still can't bring myself to get this game.
Far too long as a reenactor doing it "for real".
That hobby ruined almost everything Civil War for me. When I was an officer I was literally wargaming with real people and formations. Stuff like this is kinda second rate compared to actually shouting orders to jr officers and watching formations do what I ordered.
Quote from: GroggyGrognard2022 on December 15, 2022, 09:47:54 PM
Quote from: Destraex on December 14, 2022, 07:11:41 AM
I did a search and this was the first post that came up. Can it really be that nothing has been posted about this since 2017?
It's on steam of course rather than the original link I posted in 2017.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/424030/War_of_Rights/
Terrific screenshots. The game looks quite immersive and I'm real tempted to pick this up during the upcoming winter sale.
A couple of questions:
Do the battles have any other formation besides line? In other words, can you participate in a battle that have say skirmish formations?
Are there regiments or companies that you can join and be devoted to? Sort of like joining a clan in a multiplayer FPS shooter game.
Thanks.
Not sure if you can have formations other than line. I still have not tried being an officer as I have not been able to jump on when their are enough people. I am hoping to do this soon though... I might try an officer just to try the mechanics. Awww heck.... here are the keybindings for officer orders... order skirmish line is in that lot.
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There are in game regiments as well as clan regiments outside the game. I think I showed them in screenshots on the previous screen. I know there are Zouaves in some games. I think they might change per map? Maybe not. Here are some from a random game I joined just then.
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Quote from: SirAndrewD on December 15, 2022, 09:57:59 PM
I still can't bring myself to get this game.
Far too long as a reenactor doing it "for real".
That hobby ruined almost everything Civil War for me. When I was an officer I was literally wargaming with real people and formations. Stuff like this is kinda second rate compared to actually shouting orders to jr officers and watching formations do what I ordered.
You were a lucky man SirAndrew. I would say that computer games offer unique advantages over re-enacting. But that re-enacting also has it's own unique things that cannot be reproduced in a computer game.
People tend to talk a lot and role play when they do it in this game. So there are people. Plus they don't look as tubby as they probably would in real life :P
As an example, this picture shows a cannon that got blown over on it's side by a blast. We are a little suppressed as a result via a game mechanic.
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Here is some snow for the christmas event. But I was sitting in my chair at a perfect temperature after work relaxing on a week day.
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Quote from: SirAndrewD on December 15, 2022, 09:57:59 PM
I still can't bring myself to get this game.
Far too long as a reenactor doing it "for real".
That hobby ruined almost everything Civil War for me. When I was an officer I was literally wargaming with real people and formations. Stuff like this is kinda second rate compared to actually shouting orders to jr officers and watching formations do what I ordered.
Really cool that you were a re-enactor. I really have respect for those guys.
Well it's the weekend for me. Still don't think I am on at the right time but 120 players out of 400 so far on a public server. I imagine private events would be more people.
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I still haven't bought this game, but this cartoon always makes me wanna check it out O0
2 x servers with 200 players out of 400 now.
One locked one public.
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Well it's 50% off atm. So this will be interesting.
P.S. Now I need more civil war series or movies to watch... I have gods and generals and gettysburg. I have seen cold mountain.
Quote from: Destraex on December 23, 2022, 01:48:13 AM
Well it's 50% off atm. So this will be interesting.
P.S. Now I need more civil war series or movies to watch... I have gods and generals and gettysburg. I have seen cold mountain.
I got it.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on December 23, 2022, 05:05:44 AM
Quote from: Destraex on December 23, 2022, 01:48:13 AM
Well it's 50% off atm. So this will be interesting.
P.S. Now I need more civil war series or movies to watch... I have gods and generals and gettysburg. I have seen cold mountain.
I got it.
You're going to love it Jar. I am keen to hear what you have to say about it once you have played some of the larger battles and have figured out the mechanics.
I really hope you end up with a good commander. Most of the time only experienced guys play that role. So should be aces.
If you get one that lays down a line properly and have a good flag bearer to spawn on to boot, which is not unusual at all. I always pick up the flag if it falls. It's gonna be great fun. During the sale and school holidays though their may be some less savoury types on though I guess. But mostly it's a mature crowd. It's kinda how I imagined the ACW would be with a few lads that were a little "spicy" so to speak. That human element is good for you.
Oh and don't forget their is a refund button if you don't like it.
Quote from: Destraex on December 23, 2022, 01:48:13 AM
Well it's 50% off atm. So this will be interesting.
P.S. Now I need more civil war series or movies to watch... I have gods and generals and gettysburg. I have seen cold mountain.
I bought it also. I've been waiting for the winter sale and 15 bucks seems like a good price for the type of game you're getting.
What do you suggest playing the game with: game controller or keyboard and mouse?
Thanks for the feedback and awesome screenshots.
Quote from: GroggyGrognard2022 on December 23, 2022, 05:57:42 AM
Quote from: Destraex on December 23, 2022, 01:48:13 AM
Well it's 50% off atm. So this will be interesting.
P.S. Now I need more civil war series or movies to watch... I have gods and generals and gettysburg. I have seen cold mountain.
I bought it also. I've been waiting for the winter sale and 15 bucks seems like a good price for the type of game you're getting.
What do you suggest playing the game with: game controller or keyboard and mouse?
Thanks for the feedback and awesome screenshots.
I had no idea you could play it with a controller. So I have no idea. I do know keyboard and mouse work well.
Remember you have to figure out what US times their are 200 people on, usually on weekends.
Don't go over your hours in case you want to refund it.
Do they have starter clans or how does someone new learn how to play? Been reading that public servers don't have many players and busy times are outside of USA players time zones. Also dumb question as I don't play multiplayer games usually, does this require a headset?
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on December 23, 2022, 06:12:34 AM
Do they have starter clans or how does someone new learn how to play? Been reading that public servers don't have many players and busy times are outside of USA players time zones. Also dumb question as I don't play multiplayer games usually, does this require a headset?
You do not need a headset. But a lot of the guys do use voice coms. It's not really needed unless you are an officer. As long as you follow orders and stand in line it's fine. As for USA time zones that the servers are active you may need to consult Jar once he tries it. I will try to note the time I play when it is fairly full. You can see a few posts up the time I was with 200 players in a server. THat's what I call full as it's the most I have played with so far... I mean 230 or so.
Most of the accents I hear are US ones. But yeah I did hear some where that ironically the Europeans were the ones keeping the game alive. On a weekend I'd say times for the US may be midnight US EST but I cannot be sure.
As for starter clans. No. I am guessing a clan will just teach you.
There are "shooting range servers" to try everything out in though.
Quote from: Destraex on December 23, 2022, 06:47:01 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on December 23, 2022, 06:12:34 AM
Do they have starter clans or how does someone new learn how to play? Been reading that public servers don't have many players and busy times are outside of USA players time zones. Also dumb question as I don't play multiplayer games usually, does this require a headset?
You do not need a headset. But a lot of the guys do use voice coms. It's not really needed unless you are an officer. As long as you follow orders and stand in line it's fine. As for USA time zones that the servers are active you may need to consult Jar once he tries it. I will try to note the time I play when it is fairly full. You can see a few posts up the time I was with 200 players in a server.
Most of the accents I hear are US ones. But yeah I did hear some where that ironically the Europeans were the ones keeping the game alive. On a weekend I'd say times for the US may be midnight US EST but I cannot be sure.
As for starter clans. No. I am guessing a clan will just teach you.
There are "shooting range servers" to try everything out in though.
Thanks for the info, good to know about the shooting range server where you can try things out...that might be enough to get me to try it out since would really like to see what this looks like as big Civil War fan. Quick follow up on the headset question, as I don't anticipate wanting to be an officer. If you don't use a headset, how do you communicate with others, is there some kind of chat channel? Or do you just listen to commands and not reply back. Sorry for stupid questions, simply have no experience in multiplayer games.
There is a channel chat, yes. But the officers may not notice much there and it will depend on who is monitoring whether you get a response as their is a lot of junk getting posted their and you can generally only see 4 lines at a time without specifically pressing enter.
But most of the time you do not acknowledge an order, you just do it.
If you do need to talk you hold down N if you have a mic and feel like it.
Ok, got it...thanks.
It's currently 7:50pm US EST
179 people on a server.... by midnight it's usually 200 on a weekend.
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Quote from: Destraex on December 23, 2022, 05:11:50 PM
It's currently 7:50pm US EST
179 people on a server....
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Thanks. Just curious, did you end up trying the controller and seeing how it works? I know a lot of people like keyboard stuff, but controller much easier for me. Looking at the forums, seems like there is a debate as to whether controller works or doesn't.
I tried the controller and it definitely works. I was able to move around, reload, aim, fire, kneel, switch to melee mode and a few other things.
I did not test it thoroughly but it "seems" fine by on the defaults to me. I don't see a way to "remap" controls in game though. So I think you would be stuck with the defaults. It seems left thumb stick is to strafe nd right to turn. left fire to bring rifle up and right to fire after aiming.
Still people in chat claiming it does not work though. So maybe it is flakey. I could do most of the normal things with the xbox controller I had though.
Cool, sounds promising for sure
I actually kinda enjoyed using the controller, more comfortable than keyboard and mouse. Especially since war of rights is not a twitch kind of shooter.
Maybe I am turning to the dark side. I better get back to mouse and keyboard quickly....
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WHat is the time now where you are... here is the state of the servers... 150 guys on.
The web tells me it's 07:46:49 P.M. us est. Does not really make sense given my last time given.
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For me it is currently 8:20pm
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on December 23, 2022, 08:20:50 PM
For me it is currently 8:20pm
Cool. Well that's not too bad then. More than enough people on at a reasonable time for a battle. Of course it's Christmas so it could be the school holidays or simply the holiday period affecting this.
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Quote from: Destraex on December 23, 2022, 08:30:20 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on December 23, 2022, 08:20:50 PM
For me it is currently 8:20pm
Cool. Well that's not too bad then. More than enough people on at a reasonable time for a battle. Of course it's Christmas so it could be the school holidays or simply the holiday period affecting this.
Most likely the huge winter storm that is sweeping across the USA on top of that.....most places are below freezing (-35 here) and a lot of snow in places....fun couple of days and lot of people staying home.
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on December 23, 2022, 08:33:51 PM
Quote from: Destraex on December 23, 2022, 08:30:20 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on December 23, 2022, 08:20:50 PM
For me it is currently 8:20pm
Cool. Well that's not too bad then. More than enough people on at a reasonable time for a battle. Of course it's Christmas so it could be the school holidays or simply the holiday period affecting this.
Most likely the huge winter storm that is sweeping across the USA on top of that.....most places are below freezing (-35 here) and a lot of snow in places....fun couple of days and lot of people staying home.
Holy moley, stay safe then. I should note to you that currently in War of Rights all maps have had snow put in them to varying degrees to celebrate christmas. It might make you feel colder to look at the snow in game lol. After the christmas event you will get the nice grass and summer landscapes back.
Quote from: Destraex on December 23, 2022, 08:36:04 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on December 23, 2022, 08:33:51 PM
Quote from: Destraex on December 23, 2022, 08:30:20 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on December 23, 2022, 08:20:50 PM
For me it is currently 8:20pm
Cool. Well that's not too bad then. More than enough people on at a reasonable time for a battle. Of course it's Christmas so it could be the school holidays or simply the holiday period affecting this.
Most likely the huge winter storm that is sweeping across the USA on top of that.....most places are below freezing (-35 here) and a lot of snow in places....fun couple of days and lot of people staying home.
Yep, should make it interesting for holiday traveling....a good bet I end up picking this up, probably next week as I'll have no time for games the next few days. Thanks for all the info.
Holy moley, stay safe then. I should note to you that currently in War of Rights all maps have had snow put in them to varying degrees to celebrate christmas. It might make you feel colder to look at the snow in game lol. After the christmas event you will get the nice grass and summer landscapes back.
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on December 23, 2022, 08:40:53 PM
Quote from: Destraex on December 23, 2022, 08:36:04 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on December 23, 2022, 08:33:51 PM
Quote from: Destraex on December 23, 2022, 08:30:20 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on December 23, 2022, 08:20:50 PM
For me it is currently 8:20pm
Cool. Well that's not too bad then. More than enough people on at a reasonable time for a battle. Of course it's Christmas so it could be the school holidays or simply the holiday period affecting this.
Most likely the huge winter storm that is sweeping across the USA on top of that.....most places are below freezing (-35 here) and a lot of snow in places....fun couple of days and lot of people staying home.
Yep, should make it interesting for holiday traveling....a good bet I end up picking this up, probably next week as I'll have no time for games the next few days. Thanks for all the info.
Holy moley, stay safe then. I should note to you that currently in War of Rights all maps have had snow put in them to varying degrees to celebrate christmas. It might make you feel colder to look at the snow in game lol. After the christmas event you will get the nice grass and summer landscapes back.
No problem. Enjoy your chrissy.
Quote from: Destraex on December 23, 2022, 07:22:08 PM
I actually kinda enjoyed using the controller, more comfortable than keyboard and mouse. Especially since war of rights is not a twitch kind of shooter.
Maybe I am turning to the dark side. I better get back to mouse and keyboard quickly....
That's good news. I'm going to connect my PS4 controller and try it out for the game this weekend. I use it for some other steam games that I own because I find it more relaxing and enjoyable compared to using the keyboard and mouse configuration.
I had an xbox controller, no idea if a ps4 one would work. Apparently not even my xbox one should be working according to the community.
Now. Has anybody got any good civil war movie or tv series recommendations apart from gettysburg or gods and generals which I already own.
I have heard of the state of jonah or something which seems like a kinda strange segway outside of the civil war.
Other than Glory, there aren't too many others worth watching. The Field of Lost Shoes isn't awful. https://youtu.be/fUjcWtA3C-s
Careless with the facts but so are all the others.
Audie Murphy and the Red Badge of Courage is a classic if not terribly accurate on the material culture stuff like uniforms.
Go here: https://www.youtube.com/@LionHeartFilmWorks and watch all the old Classic Images videos from the 125th Anniversary events. The acting is generally awful (they aren't actors) but the narration is solid and its got tons of reenactors from back in the 80s when most of us were still skinny enough to sort of pass unlike these days when everyone is old or fat or both and gray haired lol.
There is also a decent video on Chickamauga on TV somewhere, it uses a lot of reenactment footage as well and is fairly well done. Can't remember which provider I saw it on. I think this is it: https://youtu.be/NUEhAB6h3lI
Then go hit this playlist for background atmosphere while playing:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPriAr6_QaUGBbFxUO2KnPtcW8Xn8f041
Thanks Bardolph. I have seen Glory. Might look up the others.
I am fairly surprised their are not many Civil War movies to be honest. I mean when you count the number of westerns that were shot. I mean the good the bad and the ugly had that famous scene where they had to cross the civil war trench lines. I know John Wayne did a few cavalry civil war movies?
Quote from: Destraex on December 24, 2022, 03:36:04 AM
Thanks Bardolph. I have seen Glory. Might look up the others.
I am fairly surprised their are not many Civil War movies to be honest. I mean when you count the number of westerns that were shot. I mean the good the bad and the ugly had that famous scene where they had to cross the civil war trench lines. I know John Wayne did a few cavalry civil war movies?
Personally a number that I enjoy, which some may debate.
Gettysburg (one of my favorites); wasn't a huge fan of the Gods and General follow up
Glory (one of my favorites)
Andersonville (really liked this one as it showed life as a prisoner)
Ride of the Devil (not a lot of battles but enjoyed it)
The Hunley (story about a sub that was used)
Field of Lost Shoes
North & South (more of a drama and TV series, but enjoyed it)
Blue and the Grey (more of a drama and TV series, but enjoyed it)
Red Badge of Courage
Cold Mountain (not much of battle stuff, but liked the overall feel of the time period)
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on December 24, 2022, 04:02:43 AM
Quote from: Destraex on December 24, 2022, 03:36:04 AM
Thanks Bardolph. I have seen Glory. Might look up the others.
I am fairly surprised their are not many Civil War movies to be honest. I mean when you count the number of westerns that were shot. I mean the good the bad and the ugly had that famous scene where they had to cross the civil war trench lines. I know John Wayne did a few cavalry civil war movies?
Personally a number that I enjoy, which some may debate.
Gettysburg (one of my favorites); wasn't a huge fan of the Gods and General follow up
Glory (one of my favorites)
Andersonville (really liked this one as it showed life as a prisoner)
Ride of the Devil (not a lot of battles but enjoyed it)
The Hunley (story about a sub that was used)
Field of Lost Shoes
North & South (more of a drama and TV series, but enjoyed it)
Blue and the Grey (more of a drama and TV series, but enjoyed it)
Red Badge of Courage
Cold Mountain (not much of battle stuff, but liked the overall feel of the time period)
Thanks :)
OWN both Gettysburg (one of my favorites); wasn't a huge fan of the Gods and General follow up
SEEN Glory (one of my favorites)
Will try to find Andersonville (really liked this one as it showed life as a prisoner)
Will try to find Ride of the Devil (not a lot of battles but enjoyed it)
SEEN very sad The Hunley (story about a sub that was used)
Will try to findField of Lost Shoes
Will try to findNorth & South (more of a drama and TV series, but enjoyed it)
Will try to find Blue and the Grey (more of a drama and TV series, but enjoyed it)
Started the book at some stage, will try to find Red Badge of Courage
SEEN Cold Mountain (not much of battle stuff, but liked the overall feel of the time period)
Have read the Bernard Cornwell civil war novels
Own physical copies of shelby footes 3 part civil war history. Must read them at some stage. Got them at a second hand book fair for a good price.
Quote from: Destraex on December 23, 2022, 10:31:59 PM
I had an xbox controller, no idea if a ps4 one would work. Apparently not even my xbox one should be working according to the community.
Now. Has anybody got any good civil war movie or tv series recommendations apart from gettysburg or gods and generals which I already own.
I have heard of the state of jonah or something which seems like a kinda strange segway outside of the civil war.
The Good Lord Bird is a terrific watch. Ethan Hawke plays the role of abolitionist John Brown, and it's told from the perspective of a newly freed slave. It doesn't have epic battle scenes, but it definitely captures the atmosphere of antebellum america. It's only 5 bucks for the series on Amazon, unless you already have a subscription to Showtime.
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt3673480/ (https://m.imdb.com/title/tt3673480/)
You should watch Ride with the Devil.... a very good period film...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8Vwm6dBQI8
Quote from: Destraex on December 24, 2022, 05:15:18 AM
Will try to findField of Lost Shoes
Check my post, I gave ya a link to it on YT.
Servers seem a little quieter atm for what are probably obvious reasons...
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Quote from: Destraex on December 24, 2022, 06:50:54 PM
Servers seem a little quieter atm for what are probably obvious reasons...
I'm going to dive into it tonight.
Right now 200 or so on
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The after battle report runs a blow by blow overhead map showing the movements of the troops throughout the match. It's cool to watch how in this match the confederates tried to flank us and then were pushed back and reformed way back in the rear.
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No more snow. The snow is all gone now.
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Back to the old summer colours
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Quote from: GroggyGrognard2022 on December 24, 2022, 09:37:49 PM
Quote from: Destraex on December 24, 2022, 06:50:54 PM
Servers seem a little quieter atm for what are probably obvious reasons...
I'm going to dive into it tonight.
Groggy did you end up trying it out? What did you think and did you get a good population?
Another thing I forgot to mention. Almost everything including individual or all people and briefing commentary can be muted. Lately I have run into a few people when their have been fewer people on that just like to argue history instead of playing the game. If you press T to show peoples names above their heads and then hold TAB to get the list of people up you can then watch the mics of people light up when they talk and click on the mic symbol next to their name to mute them.
See that red cross on somebodies mic symbol next to their name. Done for teaching purposes;
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Picked it up during the Steam sale.
Not really clicking with me. The chat tends to be a cacophony of people yelling over one another. It looks nice at times but the close combat animations and hit detections need a lot of work. I'd also like to see more personal stats and some sort of progression system. It's already getting quite repetitive after about a dozen skirmishes.
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on December 30, 2022, 05:48:08 PM
Picked it up during the Steam sale.
Not really clicking with me. The chat tends to be a cacophony of people yelling over one another. It looks nice at times but the close combat animations and hit detections need a lot of work. I'd also like to see more personal stats and some sort of progression system. It's already getting quite repetitive after about a dozen skirmishes.
Greate observations. Experience varies with the officer commanding and the people your playing with. How many people were in your server?
I don't usually get people
talking over the officer at all. Just the officers loud calls and maybe the odd very short small talk. I'd also ask what you think the civil war would have been like in terms of conversation. Consider all units not just the good ones. I wonder if it's realistic to have some "rebels" talking during battle or marches.
As for a
progression system I think the aim of this game is more leaning in the direction of a simulator. I suspect that they could do this but don't want to encourage people to go "RAMBO" to get kills. If they did progression based on formation wins that would be cool. Apparently their is a way to play or record replays I must look into.
As for
hit detection, well this is a formation game rather than an individual track and achievement game. It's more about your side winning by cowering and destroying the enemy with volley fire. Bayonet hit detection I agree can be interesting but then again it is in almost any close combat FPS I have played especially when some players pings are high. But the numbers tend to win and that's where the game really shines.
Repetition? I think perhaps you might find it repetitive because in an FPS your just one guy standing in line instead of playing a wargame where you are controlling many formations of men. You might try being an officer if you want to move a company around and try to co-ordinate with other company commanders. Also their is artilleryman to play and will be cavalry in future. I would ask where you think the game could improve on the repetitive side of things?
I must say the holidays have brought in a few more vocal types and this is where the closed clan engagements are I hear much more "regimented". I have not played one yet.
In the end. I just sometimes feel like walking around in a line with the company and enjoying the cinematics. I have seen some officers pull off some pretty neat tactics. Including having us retreat in quick time back over a rise to reload, then marching up the hill again to loose a volley.
It's useful I think to be able to follow the stages of the battle so as to be able to understand how you are
"progressing".
The battle starts with both sides
"battle ready" one side is listed as attacking and the other defending usually.
As they fight the battle both sides are listed as
"engaged"As one or both sides start losing men it changes to
"taking casualties"Then if one side takes too many casualties, especially outside of the line it changes to
"breaking"After breaking I think their is
"final stand" for one side and
"final push" for the other?? While during final stand that side cannot respawn.
If you are kneeling to do anything or being a little way from the line and in the bottom right it will say you are skirmishing. Die like that and you cause a small 20% (iirc) moral penalty
Move away from the line and you cause 100% morale penaltly.
Stay in line and I think it's and 80% reduction in moral penalty.... that makes no sense
But basically you can see that if you don't line up and STAND in line you cause problems for your side if you die. You press TAB at any time to see what the state of the enemy and your side is.
NOTE: Hopefully you have not gone over your time limit if you need to refund it.
Quote from: Destraex on December 30, 2022, 05:36:28 PM
Groggy did you end up trying it out? What did you think and did you get a good population?
I ended up refunding the game because I kept getting kicked out of battles. This would be anywhere from a few minutes to several minutes after joining with a popup message: "Timeout occurred; no packet for 30 seconds." Whether I was trying to join a battle with between 100-200 players or one of the drill camps, I kept getting kicked out. I'm not sure if it was a connection/internet speed issue on my end, but I finally lost patience with it. I don't really have the time or energy to look into the issue(s). From the small amount of time I played, the overall graphics and maps look great. There is certainly something to be said about the uniqueness of a first person multiplayer 19th century historical game. But nevertheless I'm not quite sure this game is my jam.
Quote from: GroggyGrognard2022 on December 30, 2022, 11:12:14 PM
Quote from: Destraex on December 30, 2022, 05:36:28 PM
Groggy did you end up trying it out? What did you think and did you get a good population?
I ended up refunding the game because I kept getting kicked out of battles. This would be anywhere from a few minutes to several minutes after joining with a popup message: "Timeout occurred; no packet for 30 seconds." Whether I was trying to join a battle with between 100-200 players or one of the drill camps, I kept getting kicked out. I'm not sure if it was a connection/internet speed issue on my end, but I finally lost patience with it. I don't really have the time or energy to look into the issue(s). From the small amount of time I played, the overall graphics and maps look great. There is certainly something to be said about the uniqueness of a first person multiplayer 19th century historical game. But nevertheless I'm not quite sure this game is my jam.
Well that sux but glad you got your money back. No harm, no foul.
QuoteI wonder if it's realistic to have some "rebels" talking during battle or marches.
There's an old saying in the army, any army:
"Quiet in the ranks!"
This game could benefit from it at times.
Quote from: Bardolph on December 31, 2022, 04:59:39 AM
QuoteI wonder if it's realistic to have some "rebels" talking during battle or marches.
There's an old saying in the army, any army:
"Quiet in the ranks!"
This game could benefit from it at times.
That is true.
277/300 in a server today. Spectacular.
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Charging the guns. We were not formed up well enough and communication was a bit poor for this. So a lot kinda lagged behind the spearhead. We charged out of the corn and onto the guns.
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March on the line marked by the officer
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Up and over the fence lads
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Another company marched across our front. Our officers shouting not to shoot them. Yet still at least one shot at them. This is the sort of thing you don't get with perfect simulations from above.
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Well I did not get to play War of Rights today. But damn. Their were 500 people on.
I played last night with a mate in the off period where their were 50 people.
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Battle Cry of Freedom may win me over with this update...
To those that own the game and have played it. Important news.
"from the 21st to the 31st may we can all redeem loyalty bonus XP based on in game hours in game. After that you cannot get the bonus." If you do not claim your XP you may not be able to access the higher tiers like officers and such in matches until you earn enough XP to prove you have been around enough to know the game and thus be fairly competent at those roles. Not sure what else the XP system affects.
Not sure about battle cry of freedom. Looks less polished than war of rights and doubt it will surpass it. Will follow it though as it is by the developers of mount and blade warband napoleonic.
Well. If this mod comes out for war of rights. There will be no need of other FPS napoleonic games:
Epic beard for the win! -- also for protecting the throat from weak-ass Nappy-era musket balls. :cool: