Close Combat-the blood first

[Destraex]

I watched the video and I know it's a beta he was playing but it was concerning to see that Sherman take 5+ shots at maybe 100m away and miss.

This is very apparent issue in Das Tactic video. Sherman M4A1 is firing at Sdkfz 251/2 from point blank range of 75 meters for couple of minutes and missing. Clear view, no obstacles. Even more strange, Sdkfz 251/2 is just sitting there waiting to be sent to hell. Either crew has nerves of steel or AI is brain dead.

See it for yourself. Shooting starts from around 24 minute of video:

Might I remind you that he original close combat games had tank ranges greatly reduced because of scale issues. The ai is not brain dead but more an issue of accuracy values programmed by the devs. Its a shame as i will keep playing steel division or combat mission if this is the case(most likely).

[-budd-]

Video with the full release version.

Another one

[al_infierno]

No loins too moist.

EDIT:  Those first few seconds of combat in the first video.  Oh god.     It doesn't look like this iteration is handling long distances a helluvalot better but fuggit... I'm buying it on release anyways  \m/  He does eventually land the shot though!

[Destraex]

Is it just me or does the scale on the 8 wheeled armoured car look wrong compared to the halftrack in the centre of town? This is in the caumont video about 19:07.
I also don't remember close combat showing when you killed people with artillery?? 7:53 or so, you see a whole lot of ambulance icons pop up where the enemy are killed, enemy you could not otherwise see.

[Emir Agic]

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2019/09/27/the-flare-path-close-combat-preview/

Good news: It is truthful recreation of original CC.
Bad news: It is truthful recreation of original CC.

"It's inspired by the AI's usual manner of attack. Far too often the Red Team bumbles, advancing haphazardly... tardily... foolishly. In defence as the Americans I've rarely felt I'm facing an accomplished, determined, back-to-the-wall Afrika Korps."

I don't see much incentive to buy this iteration in CC series just because it moved to 3D.

[LoganismyHERO]

Welp, that's enough for me to wait for the bargin bin  :-\

[Destraex]

IS there a preorder price?

[Grim.Reaper]

IS there a preorder price?

matrix never does pre orders, nor do they release a price before the second it goes on sale.  if i had to guess, feels like a $39.99 game to me:)

[MikeGER]

IS there a preorder price?

if i had to guess, feels like a $39.99 game to me:)

indeed  O0

and with nowadays marketing SOPs there will show up a "Hero" edition for $59:99 with

Base game
A Hürtgenwald Mini Operation
Digital soundtrack
Artbook (in English)
Printable Maps (for upfront planning your battles with acetate overlay and pens) 
;)

[Destraex]

German campaign is $40 extra as later DLC ;)

[LoganismyHERO]

Until they fix the AI, I'm holding off on this game.

[Rayfer]

I'm always baffled by thread posts when this long running series of games comes up. The posts are mostly negative, with AI and pathfinding the two main issues. And yet this series has been ongoing for 15 years, with multiple releases, updates and remake iterations. Out of curiosity I check Wiki and found this: The first five Close Combat games totaled 1.2 million units in sales by April 2004. By 2018, the combined sales of the series' 17 entries had surpassed 5 million units. Obviously, this is a beloved series with many fans. And these numbers are for a game in a niche market.  I like the series, even with its warts and flaws. Every wargame series ever made has its warts and flaws. If I shunned any game that had flaws or suspect AI I would never buy another wargame in my entire life.  Anyway, got that off my chest.    So go ahead and tear me to shreds.  :-\

[al_infierno]

I'm always baffled by thread posts when this long running series of games comes up. The posts are mostly negative, with AI and pathfinding the two main issues. And yet this series has been ongoing for 15 years, with multiple releases, updates and remake iterations. Out of curiosity I check Wiki and found this: The first five Close Combat games totaled 1.2 million units in sales by April 2004. By 2018, the combined sales of the series' 17 entries had surpassed 5 million units. Obviously, this is a beloved series with many fans. And these numbers are for a game in a niche market.  I like the series, even with its warts and flaws. Every wargame series ever made has its warts and flaws. If I shunned any game that had flaws or suspect AI I would never buy another wargame in my entire life.  Anyway, got that off my chest.    So go ahead and tear me to shreds.  :-\

I'm with you man.  I expect the game to be a bit janky on release day but what game isn't nowadays?  Looking forward to Thursday  \m/

[LoganismyHERO]

I'm always baffled by thread posts when this long running series of games comes up. The posts are mostly negative, with AI and pathfinding the two main issues. And yet this series has been ongoing for 15 years, with multiple releases, updates and remake iterations. Out of curiosity I check Wiki and found this: The first five Close Combat games totaled 1.2 million units in sales by April 2004. By 2018, the combined sales of the series' 17 entries had surpassed 5 million units. Obviously, this is a beloved series with many fans. And these numbers are for a game in a niche market.  I like the series, even with its warts and flaws. Every wargame series ever made has its warts and flaws. If I shunned any game that had flaws or suspect AI I would never buy another wargame in my entire life.  Anyway, got that off my chest.    So go ahead and tear me to shreds.  :-\

Matter of choice I guess. I'm sure the game will be ironed out sooner than later. I just chose to wait until some of those issues have been ironed out. Rather avoid the irritation.

[smittyohio]

I'm always baffled by thread posts when this long running series of games comes up. The posts are mostly negative, with AI and pathfinding the two main issues. And yet this series has been ongoing for 15 years, with multiple releases, updates and remake iterations. Out of curiosity I check Wiki and found this: The first five Close Combat games totaled 1.2 million units in sales by April 2004. By 2018, the combined sales of the series' 17 entries had surpassed 5 million units. Obviously, this is a beloved series with many fans. And these numbers are for a game in a niche market.  I like the series, even with its warts and flaws. Every wargame series ever made has its warts and flaws. If I shunned any game that had flaws or suspect AI I would never buy another wargame in my entire life.  Anyway, got that off my chest.    So go ahead and tear me to shreds.  :-\

Matter of choice I guess. I'm sure the game will be ironed out sooner than later. I just chose to wait until some of those issues have been ironed out. Rather avoid the irritation.

Agreed, watching stationary tanks and/or anti-tank guns fire at each other and miss over and over again just breaks any kind of immersion for me.   Sadly, it doesn't appear to be an isolated event, as we've seen it in several videos.