Guardians of the Galaxy 2

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[JasonPratt]

The once-and-current Nostalgia Chick, Lindsey Ellis (whose last name I correctly remembered to remember correctly this time  ::) ), essays on why despite her broad meh of the MCU and superhero film oversaturation generally.... reaaaaally, liked GotG2. In her dry inimitable way. 

Note: she talks a lot (and appreciatively) about both films, so don't worry, there's context.

[JasonPratt]

While we're at it, not sure if this was already posted upthread -- it goes back to May, and uses 'filmed' footage from a showing (i.e. bootleg footage) -- but it's nicely full of explanations for a lot of the details in the movie...

...including the two hidden meanings of Quill's shirt that looks like it reads "Yeah, Baby"  (but not exactly) in an alien language, and why the little shot of Baby Groot freezing his dancing when Drax looks at him, has an actual meaning in the film.

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[BanzaiCat]

This suddenly came up on Netflix in the US earlier in the week.

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This suddenly came up on Netflix in the US earlier in the week.

Yep. I watched it the other day. I actually like it more after multiple viewings.

[JasonPratt]

Watched it again the other day (for the 2nd time I think, maybe 3rd), and suddenly thought to myself: Kurt Russel is playing Gene Hackman playing 'that' character. 


Also, the execution of the main villain's plan ends up making little sense, even though the broad shape works fine.

[BanzaiCat]

Watched it again the other day (for the 2nd time I think, maybe 3rd), and suddenly thought to myself: Kurt Russel is playing Gene Hackman playing 'that' character. 

I keep wanting to ask my buddy Dave what it was like to work with Kurt Russell and Marky Mark in Deepwater Horizon.

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Also, the execution of the main villain's plan ends up making little sense, even though the broad shape works fine.

The villain plan in any of the Marvel movies is always the weakest point. It's better not to think about it beyond, "Big Bad must be stopped".

[BanzaiCat]

Also, the execution of the main villain's plan ends up making little sense, even though the broad shape works fine.

The villain plan in any of the Marvel movies is always the weakest point. It's better not to think about it beyond, "Big Bad must be stopped".

To be fair, that's always the way it was with the comics, wasn't it?

A) I'm going to destroy the world!
B) I'm going to take over the world!
C) I'm going to destroy (superhero group)!

Though I know this is a totally valid point. It's funny, the only time where Marvel storylines were believable and engaging for me both were the What If comics, especially the What If Phoenix Lived one.

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Also, the execution of the main villain's plan ends up making little sense, even though the broad shape works fine.

The villain plan in any of the Marvel movies is always the weakest point. It's better not to think about it beyond, "Big Bad must be stopped".

To be fair, that's always the way it was with the comics, wasn't it?

Pretty much. I don't get too hung up on plot or continuity with any comic book movies because comics themselves have never been much concerned with such things.

[BanzaiCat]

Except when it comes to DC movies, though it's like shooting duck candy in a barrel.

[Staggerwing]

Also, the execution of the main villain's plan ends up making little sense, even though the broad shape works fine.

The villain plan in any of the Marvel movies is always the weakest point. It's better not to think about it beyond, "Big Bad must be stopped".

To be fair, that's always the way it was with the comics, wasn't it?

A) I'm going to destroy the world!
B) I'm going to take over the world!
C) I'm going to destroy (superhero group)!

Though I know this is a totally valid point. It's funny, the only time where Marvel storylines were believable and engaging for me both were the What If comics, especially the What If Phoenix Lived one.

Back in the 70's there were a few Marvel/DC crossover comics, some of them in a large edition format. One of them brought together Superman and Spiderman, as well as Lex Luthor and Doc Octopus. in this megacomic Lex and Doc work together to break out of jail, amass some sweet loot, and then capture the two superheroes afterwards. As a grandiosely gloating Lex Luthor suddenly reveals his psycho plan to destroy the entire Earth Spiderman says to a shocked Doc Oc "So, now where are you going to spend your loot?"

[BanzaiCat]

IIRC, those crossover comics were almost always giant advertisements produced specifically to pimp one product or another.

[JasonPratt]

Other than to pimp each other  >:D  I don't recall what that crossover would have done. It was pretty high quality art as I recall, too, and largely centered on the then-new Skylab. They followed up with a sort-of sequel later, not quite so art detailed. (In the sequel Superman briefly fights the Hulk and Spider-man briefly fights Wonder Woman.)