News from Ukraine Conflict

[BanzaiCat]

Better to confront the issues now in 'peacetime' than later under a huge amount of pressure if there is war.

Yep, was just about to say better to discover it now than when the bullets/Borscht are flying.

[Gusington]

When the borscht is flying, everyone is screwed.

[bayonetbrant]

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-ukraine-crisis-crimea-annexation/why-ukrainian-forces-gave-up-crimea-without-a-fight-and-nato-is-alert-idUKKBN1A90G2

[airboy]

Long front page article in the 11/24 WSJ about Timur Mahhauri who has been fighting Russians since Chechnya.  He has been tied into intelligence groups for:
Chechnyan Rebels
Georgia
Ukraine
Syrian Rebels
Turkey

The article goes on to state that the Ukraine has become an assassination zone for all four sides (Ukraine Government, Russia, Russian/Ukrainian Forces; Ukraine/anit-Russian forces).  A huge amount of murder for hire, murder for ideology, disinformation claiming that individuals are working for one side against the other, burn operations to nail spies and assassins and so forth.

Timur was arrested in Kiev on gun charges with the belief that he was working with Russia to kill Russian critics in Turkey.  He claimed he was working for the Ukraine spy groups and other Western or Islamic Anti-Russian groups.  He proved enough of his case that the "working with Russia" has been discredited as a false flag operation by the Russians trying to discredit him.

Really nasty stuff reminiscent of the worst of the Cold War in the late 1940s in Germany, Greece and Eastern Europe.

[Uberhaus]

Was Timur Mahhauri in the US Special Forces and did he go freelance to Afghanistan to fight Soviets?  The one and the same who presented his CO with a Spetsnaz belt buckle, or am I thinking of someone completely different?

[airboy]

Was Timur Mahhauri in the US Special Forces and did he go freelance to Afghanistan to fight Soviets?  The one and the same who presented his CO with a Spetsnaz belt buckle, or am I thinking of someone completely different?

Must be someone else.  He is from Chechnya  and started out in that conflict if the WSJ is correct.

[Uberhaus]

Thanks, I should read the article.

[OJsDad]

https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/944407731838050304

[GDS_Starfury]

[Sir Slash]

Ivan, we've got a surprise for you.

[GDS_Starfury]

I wouldnt be smug.

[Windigo]

I wouldnt be smug.

Why's that?

[Barthheart]

It'll make a good live fire test bed.

[Sir Slash]

I just hope this doesn't make Vlad take his shirt off again.  :hide:

[Gusington]