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Title: Games Labs Announce new game - Single Player - Smugglers\Pirates in northsea\med
Post by: Destraex on January 15, 2020, 03:48:07 AM
Games labs are starting work this year on a new game. The description makes it sound to me like they tried to make naval action 2 in the north sea and gave up because of the multiplayer community back and forth hate\love. So they turned it into a single player project is my hunch.

"this year will also start work on a new single player focused game with first person view from deck - Sea Legends - about smugglers and privateers in the Mediterranean and North sea. This research will be shared and will greatly benefit the improvements of quality of PVE combat in Naval Action."

Here are he plans for naval action in the first half of 2020:
https://forum.game-labs.net/topic/33598-development-plans-update-first-half-of-2020/?fbclid=IwAR2XCTdDpjqPkYmg51Pi2GQT4toCRcu0yU2KEGJUJqd5YnoE2Pe_qd3E_J4
Title: Re: Games Labs Announce new game - Single Player - Smugglers\Pirates in northsea\med
Post by: besilarius on January 15, 2020, 07:52:16 AM
Now that's different.
Being able to raid the Smyrna Convoy on it's return from the Turkish Empire would be really new.
And might give some attention to the different French privateers like Blankman and Surcouf.
Title: Re: Games Labs Announce new game - Single Player - Smugglers\Pirates in northsea\med
Post by: Gusington on January 15, 2020, 08:27:44 AM
Very interesting. As has been said here before I just hope they aren't spreading themselves too thin.
Title: Re: Games Labs Announce new game - Single Player - Smugglers\Pirates in northsea\med
Post by: Phantom on January 15, 2020, 10:23:47 AM
Sounds interesting.
Don't know if anyone here tried Pirates of the Caribbean/City of Abandoned ships. Sounds a similar theme/game mode. Regarding POTC/COA I found it very immersive & entertaining, and there were several excellent user mods that transformed it into a historical/Naval fiction type game (you could be Hornblower or Jack Aubrey - wonderful). It was relatively realistic (with the mods) the only thing that annoyed me was the requirement for boarding & one on one fights with the enemy captains which was sort of hard wired into the original vanilla version.
Naval Action was tempting but the multi player element always put me off so never bought it. Single player would certainly get my interest, & north sea/Med would make it great for the historical avenues it could open.
Regards
Keith
Title: Re: Games Labs Announce new game - Single Player - Smugglers\Pirates in northsea\med
Post by: JasonPratt on January 15, 2020, 04:47:29 PM
So... huh. A theater combining North Sea(s) and also the Med? For a pirate game that's ambitious!

I like the idea of having used Naval Action as a testground for doing a single player game.  >:D
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Post by: bobarossa on January 15, 2020, 05:56:58 PM
So for the Mediterranean pirates can you crack the whip to make the rowers go harder?  I would have to change my avatar if I played it (but I could keep the name).
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Post by: Gusington on January 15, 2020, 06:30:50 PM
'Bawbarossa'
Title: Re: Games Labs Announce new game - Single Player - Smugglers\Pirates in northsea\med
Post by: Destraex on January 15, 2020, 11:14:07 PM
Quote from: Phantom on January 15, 2020, 10:23:47 AM
Sounds interesting.
Don't know if anyone here tried Pirates of the Caribbean/City of Abandoned ships. Sounds a similar theme/game mode. Regarding POTC/COA I found it very immersive & entertaining, and there were several excellent user mods that transformed it into a historical/Naval fiction type game (you could be Hornblower or Jack Aubrey - wonderful). It was relatively realistic (with the mods) the only thing that annoyed me was the requirement for boarding & one on one fights with the enemy captains which was sort of hard wired into the original vanilla version.
Naval Action was tempting but the multi player element always put me off so never bought it. Single player would certainly get my interest, & north sea/Med would make it great for the historical avenues it could open.
Regards
Keith

Just wanted to advise that naval action does have completely segregated pve (player versus ai enemy)servers that their is no pvp allowed on.
Title: Re: Games Labs Announce new game - Single Player - Smugglers\Pirates in northsea\med
Post by: Phantom on January 16, 2020, 05:08:16 AM
Thanks Destraex, that's worth knowing - are the AI controlled ships in that environment random are do they confirm to any historical era or nationality?
Title: Re: Games Labs Announce new game - Single Player - Smugglers\Pirates in northsea\med
Post by: Destraex on January 16, 2020, 05:33:09 AM
The ships are all historical in the game. But I think you mean are all ships restricted to their original historical nation?
If that is what you are asking then no, their are not enough ships for that and so all ships are on all sides. However like I said, all ships are historical from historical sources. The devs do not do a ship unless they have proper blueprints and good enough information.

Here are the current in game ships:

(https://naction.info/images/1/1c/Fleet_001.png)

(https://naction.info/images/c/c9/Fleet2.png)

(https://naction.info/images/f/f5/Fleet_003.png)

https://naction.info/index.php/Ships
Title: Re: Games Labs Announce new game - Single Player - Smugglers\Pirates in northsea\med
Post by: JasonPratt on January 16, 2020, 03:38:24 PM
Quote from: Gusington on January 15, 2020, 06:30:50 PM
'Bawbarossa'

Bobarowsa?
Title: Re: Games Labs Announce new game - Single Player - Smugglers\Pirates in northsea\med
Post by: JasonPratt on January 16, 2020, 03:39:27 PM
Quote from: Destraex on January 15, 2020, 11:14:07 PM
Just wanted to advise that naval action does have completely segregated pve (player versus ai enemy)servers that their is no pvp allowed on.

Oryl!?

Had I but known...! I shall recall this for a future sale opportunity.  ^-^
Title: Re: Games Labs Announce new game - Single Player - Smugglers\Pirates in northsea\med
Post by: JasonPratt on January 16, 2020, 03:42:48 PM
Meanwhile, I remembered a minute ago that there IS a North Sea -slash- Mediterranean "pirates" game system, just not both in the same contiguous game: the "Port Royale" game engine (the first good super-update-remake for Sid Meir's original Pirates game), for the "Patrician" series and "Rise of Venice".

Of course you can't walk around on the ship decks as with Sea Dogs and its successors/sequels.
Title: Re: Games Labs Announce new game - Single Player - Smugglers\Pirates in northsea\med
Post by: Destraex on January 17, 2020, 03:57:26 AM
I must say. By the time games labs finishes the single player game. I will probably be ready to ditch multiplayer for good. I also won't be getting the single player game if it is not aimed to tell some good history. I want to be a French privateer... NOT a pirate. I hate pirates.
Title: Re: Games Labs Announce new game - Single Player - Smugglers\Pirates in northsea\med
Post by: besilarius on January 17, 2020, 08:09:15 AM
The lines could be very blurred.  Surcouf started as a privateer, but was also not above poaching ships of the French East Indian Company.
Still, if you could avoid being hanged, things could work out well.
Giovanni Verrazano had a bridge named after him in New York.
Title: Re: Games Labs Announce new game - Single Player - Smugglers\Pirates in northsea\med
Post by: Gusington on January 17, 2020, 08:39:20 AM
Verrazano was a pirate??
Title: Re: Games Labs Announce new game - Single Player - Smugglers\Pirates in northsea\med
Post by: Destraex on January 17, 2020, 09:12:51 AM
Privateer is already pushing it for me. Rather naval raider. But they did not mention them.
Title: Re: Games Labs Announce new game - Single Player - Smugglers\Pirates in northsea\med
Post by: JasonPratt on January 17, 2020, 12:43:49 PM
Nice thing about some of these games is that you don't HAVE TO BE a pirate. Especially the Patrician/Port Royale system. You CAN BE, if you want, but a lot of the game, especially in Patrician, is built on the assumption you're just a trader arming up to protect yourself from pirates (and from enemy combatants in the Caribbean of course.)
Title: Re: Games Labs Announce new game - Single Player - Smugglers\Pirates in northsea\med
Post by: Destraex on January 17, 2020, 05:57:28 PM
But I want a commission and orders from the navy. Escorting a convoy would be great fun I reckon, with time compression that is.
Title: Re: Games Labs Announce new game - Single Player - Smugglers\Pirates in northsea\med
Post by: JasonPratt on January 17, 2020, 06:19:39 PM
The PR series (much like SM:Pirates) does give you the opportunity to work for the four colonial governments in the Carib, with commissions and ranks. I don't recall that you get very specific orders from the Navy, but you do get to help keep your faction's towns and cities in good shape, help prepare their defenses, even create your own settlements to grow as a governor once you level up enough.

That's already far ahead of the original SM:P. Being able to do that in 3D, walking about your ship and around the port-towns, is sort of the holy grail of SM:P successors!
Title: Re: Games Labs Announce new game - Single Player - Smugglers\Pirates in northsea\med
Post by: besilarius on January 18, 2020, 07:56:35 AM
Verrazano was a tricky character.
As a navigator, he was convinced that there was a passage to Asia through Pamlico Sound, North Carolina.  Then he entirely missed the Chesapeake Bay and the Delaware River.  (Check out a map on the size of the entrances.)
He got Francis I of France interested in the Northwest Passage, sending explorers down a dead end for a century.
Quite a few contemporaries, didn't believe that he was captured and killed by Caribe Indians but that he was the French privateer Jean Fleury.  Fleury was captured by the Spanish and hung.
So take your pick.  Eaten by cannibals or hung by the Spanish.
Just deserts for missing the Chesapeake Bay.  If he'd inflamed Francois to colonise this area, how different the story of North America might have been.
Title: Re: Games Labs Announce new game - Single Player - Smugglers\Pirates in northsea\med
Post by: Gusington on January 19, 2020, 12:11:33 AM
Didn't know any of this - thanks Bes.
Title: Re: Games Labs Announce new game - Single Player - Smugglers\Pirates in northsea\med
Post by: Destraex on February 04, 2020, 04:00:41 AM
The website is up and has some very interesting ideas they have about the game:
The game looks like it may eventually have coop and duel modes. But the focus is very much on single player. The initial feature list blows me out of the water really.
Everything seems to be object based including navigation. You will most likely have to use sextant and such to navigate.
The interiors of the ships will be fully modelled as will the ship stresses.
They seem to be hoping to do an insane amount of weather modelling including eddy creation.
The whole thing seems amazing. Whether it will be fun is a different story all together.

https://www.sea-legends.com/

https://www.sea-legends.com/captain-and-seamanship

https://www.sea-legends.com/features-1

https://www.sea-legends.com/professions
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Post by: Gusington on February 04, 2020, 07:35:07 AM
Fantastic. I just hope that Game Labs does not spread themselves too thin - they have multiple ambitious games in the pipeline right now.
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Post by: Destraex on October 21, 2020, 09:14:06 PM
Sea Legends gets to pre order stage. However the first playable alpha will not be until the first wuarter of 2021.

https://www.sea-legends.com/blog/autumn-development-update
Title: Re: Games Labs Announce new game - Single Player - Smugglers\Pirates in northsea\med
Post by: solops on October 22, 2020, 01:08:45 AM
Quote from: JasonPratt on January 17, 2020, 12:43:49 PM
Nice thing about some of these games is that you don't HAVE TO BE a pirate. Especially the Patrician/Port Royale system. You CAN BE, if you want, but a lot of the game, especially in Patrician, is built on the assumption you're just a trader arming up to protect yourself from pirates (and from enemy combatants in the Caribbean of course.)

Can I be a Nice pirate?

Maybe even one that sparkles?
Title: Re: Games Labs Announce new game - Single Player - Smugglers\Pirates in northsea\med
Post by: Grim.Reaper on October 22, 2020, 02:34:15 AM
am i reading the pre order price correctly? $145 ?  not much of a chance i jump on this one.
Title: Re: Games Labs Announce new game - Single Player - Smugglers\Pirates in northsea\med
Post by: Pete Dero on October 22, 2020, 02:52:48 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on October 22, 2020, 02:34:15 AM
am i reading the pre order price correctly? $145 ?  not much of a chance i jump on this one.

For the limited 'Founder Edition'.  If their other games are an indication final price should be around $50.
Title: Re: Games Labs Announce new game - Single Player - Smugglers\Pirates in northsea\med
Post by: Grim.Reaper on October 22, 2020, 05:20:27 AM
Quote from: Pete Dero on October 22, 2020, 02:52:48 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on October 22, 2020, 02:34:15 AM
am i reading the pre order price correctly? $145 ?  not much of a chance i jump on this one.

For the limited 'Founder Edition'.  If their other games are an indication final price should be around $50.

yep, understood....I was just talking about the pre order.  Don't recall their other games being that much during the pre order phase.  For once, I won't be an impulse buyer:)
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Post by: Gusington on October 22, 2020, 10:34:28 AM
RyanE is watching all of our actions on this one, with interest.
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Post by: Sir Slash on October 22, 2020, 11:35:30 AM
I thought I felt eyeballs on me. I thought it was just the cat.
Title: Re: Games Labs Announce new game - Single Player - Smugglers\Pirates in northsea\med
Post by: Gusington on October 22, 2020, 02:21:47 PM
It's never just the cat.
Title: Re: Games Labs Announce new game - Single Player - Smugglers\Pirates in northsea\med
Post by: W8taminute on October 22, 2020, 02:38:34 PM
This thread desperately needs a sea shanty.

Title: Re: Games Labs Announce new game - Single Player - Smugglers\Pirates in northsea\med
Post by: Gusington on October 22, 2020, 03:22:24 PM
^Still waiting for EA to release their pirate game based on AC4...:/
Title: Re: Games Labs Announce new game - Single Player - Smugglers\Pirates in northsea\med
Post by: W8taminute on October 22, 2020, 03:55:47 PM
Quote from: Gusington on October 22, 2020, 03:22:24 PM
^Still waiting for EA to release their pirate game based on AC4...:/

Yeah me too.  AC4 was awesome.
Title: Re: Games Labs Announce new game - Single Player - Smugglers\Pirates in northsea\med
Post by: Gusington on October 22, 2020, 04:08:46 PM
One of the greatest thrills of AC4 was taking on those Spanish coastal forts. That could be a game in and of itself.
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Post by: JasonPratt on October 22, 2020, 07:30:20 PM
It's too bad Corsair: Man-o-war died in development. The game as it was left isn't bad, though very incomplete in options, but it had a lot of potential to scratch that AC4 itch (plus Orks and giant sea monsters) which will never be realized now I guess.
Title: Re: Games Labs Announce new game - Single Player - Smugglers\Pirates in northsea\med
Post by: Gusington on October 22, 2020, 09:05:46 PM
I have come very close to getting Corsair a few times. Didn't know it was not supported anymore.
Title: Re: Games Labs Announce new game - Single Player - Smugglers\Pirates in northsea\med
Post by: Destraex on October 22, 2020, 09:49:47 PM
I am glad they saw their way to doing multiplayer options. Not sure about humans having chance to invade your single player game if you really play up on the high seas though.
Title: Re: Games Labs Announce new game - Single Player - Smugglers\Pirates in northsea\med
Post by: JasonPratt on October 22, 2020, 10:49:16 PM
Quote from: Gusington on October 22, 2020, 09:05:46 PM
I have come very close to getting Corsair a few times. Didn't know it was not supported anymore.

It's still a pretty amazing game, even in its rough state; well worth looking at on sale.
Title: Re: Games Labs Announce new game - Single Player - Smugglers\Pirates in northsea\med
Post by: Destraex on October 25, 2020, 08:47:41 PM
Quote from: W8taminute on October 22, 2020, 02:38:34 PM
This thread desperately needs a sea shanty.
Sea Shanties were the only thing that appealed to me in AC4. In Holdfast, another game of the same period, their is a tonne of music. But the singing is all done by the population! :P