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Title: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: JudgeDredd on February 09, 2018, 08:55:35 AM
Maybe a daft question...but a serious one
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: mirth on February 09, 2018, 09:01:50 AM
25 years as vegetarian, but I am not a vegan. I don't eat meat of any kind but I do eat eggs and dairy products. The technical term for my form of vegetarianism is "lacto-ovo vegetarian".

Veganism is more than just a diet. It's a lifestyle philosophy. Vegans don't eat honey. They don't use products containing beeswax. They don't wear anything that is made from animal hides, etc.

I have a great deal of respect for vegans, but I like cheese way to much to become a vegan.
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: JudgeDredd on February 09, 2018, 10:22:56 AM
Cool. Thanks Mirth.

I don't know how "vegan" I'll be. I don't know how long I'll be vegan. It may even turn into vegetarianism. I might give up. Who knows.

50 years old, I've been naively hiding away from how animals are treated to feed and cloth me. I've recently looked into it (my daughter is vegan and has mentioned things here and there) and I was disgusted with what I found  :'(

I certainly am not and would not judge anyone for who they are or how they are. But I don't want to put money into that industry. Like I said though - I'm 50 years a meat eater - so I have no idea how this is going to pan out  :-"

Wish me luck
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: MikeGER on February 09, 2018, 10:27:22 AM
Can I tell you a vegan joke? I promise it won't be cheesy. ^-^
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: JudgeDredd on February 09, 2018, 10:28:11 AM
Quote from: MikeGER on February 09, 2018, 10:27:22 AM
Can I tell you a vegan joke? I promise it won't be cheesy. ^-^
Too late  :buck2:
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: mirth on February 09, 2018, 10:37:00 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on February 09, 2018, 10:22:56 AM
Cool. Thanks Mirth.

I don't know how "vegan" I'll be. I don't know how long I'll be vegan. It may even turn into vegetarianism. I might give up. Who knows.

50 years old, I've been naively hiding away from how animals are treated to feed and cloth me. I've recently looked into it (my daughter is vegan and has mentioned things here and there) and I was disgusted with what I found  :'(

I certainly am not and would not judge anyone for who they are or how they are. But I don't want to put money into that industry. Like I said though - I'm 50 years a meat eater - so I have no idea how this is going to pan out  :-"

Wish me luck

It's cool that you're giving it a try. Hope it works out for you.
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: bbmike on February 09, 2018, 11:15:24 AM
Sure, you care about how the animals are treated to cloth and feed you, but what about the suffering of the plants? You don't care about them? You, sir, are a plantist!  >:D :buck2:
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: Toonces on February 09, 2018, 11:34:28 AM
If God didn't want us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them so tasty.   O:-)
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: mirth on February 09, 2018, 11:37:49 AM
If God wanted you to wear Uggs, he would have made them less girly.
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: Toonces on February 09, 2018, 11:38:45 AM
Good enough for Tom Brady, good enough for me.  That's my story and I'm sticking to it.   :smitten:
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: mirth on February 09, 2018, 11:40:23 AM
Quote from: Toonces on February 09, 2018, 11:38:45 AM
Good enough for Tom Brady, good enough for me.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2017/03/07/tom-brady-and-vegan-meal-supplier-turn-his-weird-eating-habits-into-meal-delivery-service/
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: Toonces on February 09, 2018, 11:43:28 AM
Oh Jesus Christ, are there no more heroes?   :'(

Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: mirth on February 09, 2018, 11:46:38 AM
I guess you'll be following Brady down the vegan path :P
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: Toonces on February 09, 2018, 11:59:42 AM
First the chick who flushed her emotional support hamster down the toilet because Spirit airlines wouldn't let her fly with it, and now this revelation about Tom Brady....

My faith in humanity, shaky to begin with, is now in shambles.  Is there no hope? 

A weak willed woman
can't fly, should've fed her hamster
to Tom Brady for lunch.
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: mirth on February 09, 2018, 12:00:59 PM
You better pick up an extra bottle of scotch.

Pretty sure Scotch is vegan, so it'll be okay.
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on February 09, 2018, 12:02:19 PM
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: airboy on February 09, 2018, 12:08:18 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on February 09, 2018, 10:22:56 AM
Cool. Thanks Mirth.

I don't know how "vegan" I'll be. I don't know how long I'll be vegan. It may even turn into vegetarianism. I might give up. Who knows.

50 years old, I've been naively hiding away from how animals are treated to feed and cloth me. I've recently looked into it (my daughter is vegan and has mentioned things here and there) and I was disgusted with what I found  :'(

I certainly am not and would not judge anyone for who they are or how they are. But I don't want to put money into that industry. Like I said though - I'm 50 years a meat eater - so I have no idea how this is going to pan out  :-"

Wish me luck

Probably a healthier diet, but not for me.

I grew up on a farm and we had a small herd of beef cattle.  Many of my buddies are in the meat production industry (chicken, hogs and beef).  I know what goes on, both on small farms and on industrial ones.  I also hunt and fish and know exactly what that process is like.

I would try to visit a farm, or see what is done on animal production lines from a source outside the greenpeace/humane society types.  They take the worst possible examples and pitch them as the "norms" for the industry.

Still, the West is largely free to make that choice on your own.  The best to you.  It can be less expensive and healthier.

I'll give up my bacon, pork chops, etc.... when they pry my gun from my cold dead fingers.
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: mirth on February 09, 2018, 12:09:40 PM
Quote from: airboy on February 09, 2018, 12:08:18 PM
I'll give up my bacon, pork chops, etc.... when they pry my gun from my cold dead fingers.

There's a video for that too :P

Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: airboy on February 09, 2018, 12:12:07 PM
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on February 09, 2018, 12:02:19 PM


^ I've seen it before, but it is awesome!

You eat broccoli - that's what my food eats!

Pork - They eat vegetables so you don't have to!
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: airboy on February 09, 2018, 12:13:14 PM
Mirth is a very nice guy in person, despite his unwillingness to listen to our allies in the canine kingdom and eat bacon.
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: mirth on February 09, 2018, 12:14:13 PM
^awwwww  ;D
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: Barthheart on February 09, 2018, 12:16:34 PM
Homo sapiens have been omnivores for about 200,000 years.... why change now?

(https://i.imgflip.com/qtw9q.jpg)
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: MikeGER on February 09, 2018, 12:30:48 PM
Judge, there is an easy way out if you are concerned about how animals get treated, eat game.

those wild animals had a good life, didn't knew what hit them so no fear like those on transports
and got feed in nature in the most natural way.  no artificial hormones or antibiotics traces in the meat

if you say game meat is to expensive, try to get a hunting licence or buy it less frequent.


@Mirth
Q: What is the Native American word for vegetarian
A: Poor Hunter  ;D

   
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: mirth on February 09, 2018, 12:40:23 PM
Quote from: MikeGER on February 09, 2018, 12:30:48 PM
@Mirth
Q: What is the Native American word for vegetarian
A: Poor Hunter  ;D

Never heard that before  :crazy2:
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: Pete Dero on February 09, 2018, 01:10:13 PM
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs9.img.humo.be%2Fq100%2Fw850%2Fh%2Fimg_179%2F1798633.jpg&hash=6632b9e2727327dd9401e16f2af42d132086f565)
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: undercovergeek on February 09, 2018, 01:31:39 PM
Big respect and admiration for the decision JD, but........

Does this mean all the clothes, shoes, car accessories, bike equipment, modelling gear that have touched the animal industry are all going out of the window too?
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: mirth on February 09, 2018, 01:42:37 PM
There are different ways to approach veganism. Some people choose to simply follow a vegan diet. I suppose they wouldn't be considered "true" vegans, but I don't nit-pick over nonsense like that.

Mainly, it's about finding what works for you. I didn't become a vegetarian until I was twenty three. Before that, I had eaten every type of fish or game that could be found in Maine. When I became a vegetarian, it was one of the easiest things I've ever done. I never had a craving. I never missed bacon or chicken.

I don't proselytize to my family and friends. I don't mock their own decisions. If I'm asked about it, I provide honest answers. If people want to be critical or present me with bullshit "what about this" scenarios, I'm willing and able to stand up for myself. Being a vegetarian works for me and that's all I need to know. Most people around me don't even know I'm a vegetarian.
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: Windigo on February 09, 2018, 01:45:36 PM
.... I vape.     ;D
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: mirth on February 09, 2018, 01:46:29 PM
Quote from: Windigo on February 09, 2018, 01:45:36 PM
.... I vape.     ;D

You're an inspiration to us all :P
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: Windigo on February 09, 2018, 01:48:21 PM
Quote from: mirth on February 09, 2018, 01:46:29 PM
Quote from: Windigo on February 09, 2018, 01:45:36 PM
.... I vape.     ;D

You're an inspiration to us all :P
In before "all"
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: undercovergeek on February 09, 2018, 01:50:09 PM
And that's why I respect JDs decision

I grind my teeth at those guys on the net or on tv deliberately using the words corpse and flesh in a piss poor attempt to intimidate meat eaters

A silent affirmation of your choices is the best in my opinion

I'm only asking because JD specifically said he was appalled at the meat industry - but is that at purely meat production or all it's biproducts

Actually I've never had the chance to ask an intelligent vegetarian mirth - let's say the veggies 'win' - meat eating becomes the poor choice and is eventually outlawed - what do you think will happen to the national herd, farmers won't tend to them for free, I doubt they'll be released into the wild, surely they'll all be culled - is that a win for the veggies?
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: Greybriar on February 09, 2018, 01:54:02 PM
I thought the following video might help explain the differences between the different types of vegetarians:

Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: mirth on February 09, 2018, 01:58:45 PM
Quote from: undercovergeek on February 09, 2018, 01:50:09 PM
Actually I've never had the chance to ask an intelligent vegetarian mirth - let's say the veggies 'win' - meat eating becomes the poor choice and is eventually outlawed - what do you think will happen to the national herd, farmers won't tend to them for free, I doubt they'll be released into the wild, surely they'll all be culled - is that a win for the veggies?

It's such an unlikely hypothetical that it isn't something I would give much thought. It's certainly not something that would happen overnight where we'd have herds roaming free. If people started eating less meat, overtime less meat would be produced. Fewer animals would be raised for their meat.

I don't look at it as winning or losing. I do find industrial meat production practices abhorrent and I support organizations like Farm Sanctuary, but I am not a PETA zealot and I'm not interested in forcing people to accept a vegetarian diet. People need to make the choices that work for them.
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: mirth on February 09, 2018, 02:01:39 PM
Quote from: Greybriar on February 09, 2018, 01:54:02 PM
I thought the following video might help explain the differences between the different types of vegetarians:


Good video. Covers it very well.
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: JudgeDredd on February 09, 2018, 03:21:37 PM
Quote from: undercovergeek on February 09, 2018, 01:31:39 PM
Big respect and admiration for the decision JD, but........

Does this mean all the clothes, shoes, car accessories, bike equipment, modelling gear that have touched the animal industry are all going out of the window too?
I'm not turning into an activist. I'm sure purist vegan's will laugh at me. I've honestly not thought that far ahead.

Currently, I'm specifically pissed at the way animals are treated. What I can do (with relative ease - and I say that with a huge pinch of salt) is stay away from meat and dairy products. I haven't thought about bi-products at the moment. I think the first part is to take my money out the animal food chain - you know - stops piglets being killed because they aren't financially viable. Stop sows being forced - by artificial insemination - into constantly giving birth. Stop calves being taken from their mothers because I want the milk. That kind of thing.

If I keep it up, at least antibiotics might work for me as around half of the antibiotics used in the UK are on animals (something like that anyway).

I'm not here to promote veganism. I'm not here to judge people. I'm not here to stand up for eating plants. I'm not here to even debate it. I've seen what I've seen and if that's even slightly representative of the things that go on, I want no part in it.

My daughter is a vegan and she'll help. How I move forward will very much depend on the next month, 3 months, 6 months and year and so on.
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: JudgeDredd on February 09, 2018, 03:23:12 PM
Quote from: mirth on February 09, 2018, 01:42:37 PM
There are different ways to approach veganism. Some people choose to simply follow a vegan diet. I suppose they wouldn't be considered "true" vegans, but I don't nit-pick over nonsense like that.

Mainly, it's about finding what works for you. I didn't become a vegetarian until I was twenty three. Before that, I had eaten every time of fish or game that could be found in Maine. When I became a vegetarian, it was one of the easiest things I've ever done. I never had a craving. I never missed bacon or chicken.

I don't proselytize to my family and friends. I don't mock their own decisions. If I'm asked about it, I provide honest answers. If people want to be critical or present me with bullshit "what about this" scenarios, I'm willing and able to stand up for myself. Being a vegetarian works for me and that's all I need to know. Most people around me don't even know I'm a vegetarian.
Thanks mirth. I think that covered it far better than I did.
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: undercovergeek on February 09, 2018, 03:24:09 PM
Good luck buddy

Genuine - not a piss take
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: Toonces on February 09, 2018, 03:32:11 PM
If your conviction is based more on morals than on some nutritional choice, I would think you have a better chance of successfully embracing the lifestyle.  I always thought vegetarianism was more nutrition-driven than a stance on animal cruelty.  (I'm sure there are folks that do it for either reason, or both).

So, I applaud you for your decision and wish you success. 

Meanwhile, I'll stop eating meat when they can pry Airboy's gun out of his cold, dead fingers.   :crazy2:
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: JudgeDredd on February 09, 2018, 03:40:58 PM
Thanks very much everyone.

It'll be tough but I'm going to give it a bloody good go.

The guy who runs the cycle shop I get my bikes from and repaired etc...he's vegan. Been vegan since 1999. I never knew it and I've been cycling with him for 6 years or more. So I want to be that kind of vegan.

I used to be a smoker. I don't condemn people for smoking. I don't judge them. I don't tut or shake my head. If I'm asked or if someone mentions they want to give up, I'll explain how I did it, how hard it was, what was hard about it, what the pitfalls are. The reason I'm like that is because I know how much I enjoyed it and I know how difficult it was to give up. I want to be that kind of vegan.

Lets see how the next few weeks go...then months hopefully...then whatever  O0
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: bayonetbrant on February 09, 2018, 04:08:38 PM
[yt]https://youtu.be/vXIdcA6mlV4[/yt]
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: airboy on February 09, 2018, 05:45:11 PM
JD - A couple of health observations about a big proposed diet change.

1] be sure you are getting enough calories.  Vegans, especially those who exercise a lot, can have problems getting enough calories.
2] If you are diabetic be very, very careful about going vegan.  Vegetarian/vegan diets tend to go into huge carb loads to get sufficient calories.  If you are diabetic or hypoglycemic it can cause some big problems.

My wife and I ate vegetarian about 3 meals a week until I became diabetic.  That had to go away because even beans and whole grain pastas/breads did a number on my diabetes that made me very sick.  I've eaten a lot more meat and a lot fewer carbs after the diabetes hit.

And in a health change that Mirth would approve of, I've substituted a lot more scotch and whiskey for beer since the diabetes debacle.
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: jamus34 on February 10, 2018, 03:31:21 PM
I'm in the meat production business too but on the ABF / Organic side of things.

Having been to slaughter houses it has given me a newfound respect for what the animal goes through and a willingness to try to avoid wasting as much meat product as possible.

I personally doubt I will ever go vegan or even vegetarian however i do try to eat less meat and savor it more when I do.
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: Staggerwing on February 10, 2018, 03:57:40 PM
I was an ovo-lacto-pesco-vegetarian for most of my twenties and first few years of my 30's, but I wasn't aware that there was a hyphenated term for it. I just skipped meat and poultry but ate everything else. During that time my weight was consistently between 160 and 180.

Once I started eating meat again I also started gaining weight at an unhealthy clip. I've been considering eliminating both meat and a lot of prepared carbs from my diet but it's hard to organize a proper meal with so little available time. Ready made and semi-ready foods are just way too convenient.
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: JudgeDredd on February 12, 2018, 04:14:04 PM
First day over as a vegan.

So what was different?

Breakfast
I had fruit
Normally I would probably have Toast, butter and possibly beans

Lunch
I had a tin of vegetable soup and some bread
Normally I would've had that but with butter on my bread, or I would've had some sort of sandwich, pasta dish or perhaps cheese and rolls and butter

Tea
My wife made Vegetable Cobbler
Evening meals are not normally too bad as my wife cooks nice meals.


The biggest difference though is snacking. Normally I'd have had perhaps 2 or 3 chocolate bars - probably more if I'm honest. I actually bought a bar of Bournville which is vegan...something I loved as a kid...and had a single strip from it.

Overall, it was very positive. I feel pretty good too. Normally I feel quite lethargic and with all the sugar I have in my snacking, I'm kind of up and down during the whole day.

It's a loooooooooooooooooooong road - but one I definitely want to travel. I hope it sticks.
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: mirth on February 12, 2018, 04:22:53 PM
JD, your daughter probably has already told you, but there are plenty of vegan substitutes for butter and other dairy products. It might make the change easier for you to not have to eat dry toast ;)

There are also a variety of vegan meat substitutes available. Many of them are very tasty and are flavored/textured to approximate meat products.

As far as the variety and quality of vegetarian/vegan products available, it's much improved over 15-20 years ago.
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: JudgeDredd on February 12, 2018, 04:25:25 PM
Yeah I know. Thanks mirth.

I'm looking to stay away from spreads if I can...at least for the time being. Tomorrow morning I'll have toast with Marmite and beans...fruit wasn't enough.

And Vegan stuff (and vegetarian) has definitely come a long way.

The cutting out snacking on milk chocolate is going to be a big hitter for me. And butter too...I was terrible with butter.
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: undercovergeek on February 12, 2018, 04:28:32 PM
it might be stating the obvious, but as someone who would butter anything just to get butter i found the easiest way to give it up was to give up bread
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: Windigo on February 12, 2018, 04:33:51 PM
margarine?
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: mirth on February 12, 2018, 04:39:10 PM
Quote from: Windigo on February 12, 2018, 04:33:51 PM
margarine?

Margarine may or may not be vegan, but there are plenty of vegan butter substitutes available:

http://www.yourdailyvegan.com/vegan-butter/
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: Toonces on February 12, 2018, 04:39:49 PM
Beans for breakfast?  Now I know what's been missing from my life!   :idiot2:
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: bbmike on February 12, 2018, 04:41:17 PM
Yeah, you're missing a proper English breakfast (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_breakfast)!
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: Dammit Carl! on February 12, 2018, 04:44:45 PM
http://veganblackmetalchef.com/ (http://veganblackmetalchef.com/)

Trappings aside, this guy does seem to be honest with his approach to veganism and beliefs and doesn't seem to be preachy about it.  They seem to mirror some of your feeling about this change.

I keep meaning to pick the cookbook up; one day.
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: mirth on February 12, 2018, 04:48:44 PM
Quote from: Dammit Carl! on February 12, 2018, 04:44:45 PM
http://veganblackmetalchef.com/ (http://veganblackmetalchef.com/)

This is one of the best things ever!  O0



:DD


Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: bbmike on February 12, 2018, 04:55:33 PM
^The Food Network could learn a lot from watching that video.
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: Toonces on February 12, 2018, 05:03:38 PM
Quote from: bbmike on February 12, 2018, 04:41:17 PM
Yeah, you're missing a proper English breakfast (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_breakfast)!

Hot damn there are some tasty looking breakfasts on there.  I really need to up my breakfast game from pop tarts.   ::)
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: Sir Slash on February 12, 2018, 07:35:41 PM
JD Being diabetic I've grown fond of some of the sugarless snack foods. They're actually quite good. Not all mind you but......
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: JudgeDredd on February 13, 2018, 07:49:40 AM
Quote from: bbmike on February 12, 2018, 04:41:17 PM
Yeah, you're missing a proper English breakfast (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_breakfast)!
That is probably the saddest thing of all. I loved a full English breakfast. But - needs must.
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: JudgeDredd on February 13, 2018, 07:51:20 AM
Quote from: Dammit Carl! on February 12, 2018, 04:44:45 PM
http://veganblackmetalchef.com/ (http://veganblackmetalchef.com/)

Trappings aside, this guy does seem to be honest with his approach to veganism and beliefs and doesn't seem to be preachy about it.  They seem to mirror some of your feeling about this change.

I keep meaning to pick the cookbook up; one day.
Thanks  O0
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: JudgeDredd on February 13, 2018, 07:52:22 AM
Quote from: Sir Slash on February 12, 2018, 07:35:41 PM
JD Being diabetic I've grown fond of some of the sugarless snack foods. They're actually quite good. Not all mind you but......
As a diabetic, can you not even have fruit?
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: GDS_Starfury on February 13, 2018, 08:05:54 AM
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Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: Sir Slash on February 13, 2018, 11:39:06 AM
Yes, JD I eat fruit also but love a late night snack while laughing at Grog-Humor and a cold glass of milk. Thus, Sugar-less snacks.
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: undercovergeek on February 13, 2018, 05:50:15 PM
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on February 13, 2018, 08:05:54 AM
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-hu3dAoFVqN8%2FUZKR0Vf_FEI%2FAAAAAAAAAco%2FucaJ03PWHwY%2Fs1600%2Fbacon-1024x754.jpg&hash=e6bb481ce300d1fc16680c3601bb911df4fce827)

So that's what you guys do with all the foreskins
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: mirth on February 13, 2018, 06:03:52 PM
^oh my
Title: oh Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: Hofstadter on February 13, 2018, 08:28:21 PM
Oh I am! I'm not a vegan but I lean very close to a plant based diet, I'm on my phone right now, but I bought daikon radish, long beans, employees, shimeji oyster and king oyster mushrooms for Tom yum, and tofu for red curry stir fry.

I even bought soybeans to make my own soymilk for coffee
Title: Re: oh Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: trailrunner on February 13, 2018, 08:47:56 PM
Quote from: Hofstadter on February 13, 2018, 08:28:21 PM
Oh I am! I'm not a vegan but I lean very close to a plant based diet, I'm on my phone right now, but I bought daikon radish, long beans, employees, shimeji oyster and king oyster mushrooms for Tom yum, and tofu for red curry stir fry.

That doesn't sound very vegan.   ;)
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: bbmike on February 13, 2018, 08:48:51 PM
 :2funny: :DD
Title: Re: oh Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: Staggerwing on February 13, 2018, 08:53:32 PM
Quote from: trailrunner on February 13, 2018, 08:47:56 PM
Quote from: Hofstadter on February 13, 2018, 08:28:21 PM
Oh I am! I'm not a vegan but I lean very close to a plant based diet, I'm on my phone right now, but I bought daikon radish, long beans, employees, shimeji oyster and king oyster mushrooms for Tom yum, and tofu for red curry stir fry.

That doesn't sound very vegan.   ;)

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Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: Sir Slash on February 13, 2018, 11:03:51 PM
She is a Botch, I mean a Batch, I meant a Bench. Dammit, stop that! A Bitch!
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: Hofstadter on February 14, 2018, 12:05:21 AM
To be fair employees are soulless husks without meat.

The bones are good for stock though
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: bbmike on February 14, 2018, 06:33:56 AM
Quote from: Hofstadter on February 14, 2018, 12:05:21 AM
To be fair employees are soulless husks without meat.

The bones are good for stock though

Wait, do you work the FAA?!?  :hide:
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: JudgeDredd on February 24, 2018, 08:03:39 AM
I'm two weeks in now and I'll be honest...the transition has been very, very easy. Much easier than I would've thought.

To understand that you'd need to understand how I ate previously.

I was mad on chocolate and cheese mostly. Savoury things not so. Meat, yes - but normal amounts really - no going mad on it. But chocolate I would eat huge amounts. I'm talking 250g in any one go - almost every day - and not always on it's own. And cheese...man - cheese. I'd make two sandwiches, with nice thick cut cheese - whilst cutting a few slices to eat as I was making my sandwich.

So I thought going vegan - cutting out cheese and dairy (so a lot of chocolate) was going to be very tough. Truth is - it really hasn't. My eating has adapted very well.

For chocolate I've rediscovered my love of dark chocolate. I used to love Bourneville chocolate as a kid...and it's back. The good thing about dark chocolate is it's so rich, you can't eat too much of it...and I don't. I bought a 200g bar of Bourneville chocolate last Monday and I still had some left at the end of the week. My chocolate intake is hugely down.

I have no cheese anymore - there's not even a half decent substitute for cheese - though at a push I will use vegan cheese to grate on my pizza...but no more cheese sandwiches.

As for meat - nope. Not missing it in the slightest so far. Or fish. Or eggs.

A couple of things which are quite difficult...

As I said, no cheese is hard to take. Also the other thing is seeing something that you'd like and looking at the back and finding it has milk or egg in it.

One hugely frustrating thing is the lack of easy identification. You really have to look at the ingredients...which is hard when you're shopping...turning everything round to look at the ingredients.

Overall though I'm very happy with the change. And as a nice little bonus, I've lost 6lbs.
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: bayonetbrant on February 24, 2018, 09:13:27 AM
glad it's working for you :)
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: bayonetbrant on February 26, 2018, 10:02:33 PM
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Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: JudgeDredd on February 27, 2018, 06:22:27 AM
lol

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Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: Daroc on March 25, 2018, 03:27:12 PM
The name for gluten and sugar free is compost.

If God wanted us to be Vegetarian He would have made broccoli fun to shoot.

Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: JudgeDredd on March 25, 2018, 03:31:28 PM
Quote from: Daroc on March 25, 2018, 03:27:12 PM
Vegetarian - is Am. Indian word for "Bad Hunter"

The name for gluten and sugar free is compost.

If God wanted us to be Vegetarian He would have made broccoli fun to shoot.
Have you shot broccoli? Seeing it's little green florets fly all over the place with a well placed 5.56 is pretty cool.
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: Daroc on March 25, 2018, 03:33:31 PM
Actually shooting things and watching them fly into lil bits is it's own fun.
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: Sir Slash on March 27, 2018, 07:48:02 AM
If cows were made of Broccoli, there would be no hamburgers.
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: Boggit on April 04, 2018, 08:25:28 PM
Quote from: Sir Slash on February 13, 2018, 11:39:06 AM
Yes, JD I eat fruit also but love a late night snack while laughing at Grog-Humor and a cold glass of milk. Thus, Sugar-less snacks.
I'm diabetic too. Check out ALDI who do a good range of sugar free sweets, including sherbets. They are some of the best sugar free sweets I have tasted and are at around 2-12 calories each depending on what you choose. That all said, I also keep a bag of ordinary sweets in the car to make sure my blood sugar isn't low when I drive!
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: Boggit on April 04, 2018, 08:32:18 PM
Well done JD. I like my veg, but I also like all the other things that would get in the way of me being vegetarian, and more so vegan.

I really respect what you're doing, and am very impressed at your self control. With my love of a bacon, or sausage sarnie, I don't think I'd have your self discipline.

Good luck with it. O0
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: JudgeDredd on April 24, 2018, 01:57:21 PM
So I've been a vegan now for 10 weeks or so and...

Well first off I can probably say this with a degree of certainty - I doubt very much I'd be vegan if my wife wasn't looking after me from a food perspective. I'd probably be vegetarian but probably not vegan.

My meals in general are fine. I'm finding vegan things for lunch and if I find myself in a pinch, there's always soup. Breakfast is normally beans on toast - but that's not much of a change from when I wasn't a vegan...that was pretty much my breakfast. The difference obviously is not using alot of butter (I used to have ALOT of butter on my toast (well - everything))

I fell very, very healthy. I feel very fit and my cycling has improved considerably...I'm doing alot more riding than I have done in previous years.

I've never eaten so much fruit and veg and to top all that off, I'm 15lbs lighter  O0

So far - all good and I see no reason for me to abandon what I'm doing.  O0
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: Gusington on April 24, 2018, 02:05:27 PM
How's the fartin'?
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: JudgeDredd on April 24, 2018, 02:19:23 PM
Quote from: Gusington on April 24, 2018, 02:05:27 PM
How's the fartin'?
Calmed down - thank god.
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: Gusington on April 24, 2018, 02:27:21 PM
Success!
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: JudgeDredd on May 06, 2018, 08:28:22 AM
The first question lots of people ask is "So, what do you eat?" - I should mention I would also ask that question.

Well consider it answered...

Beetroot, radish, orange pepper, spinach, tomato and Piri Piri Houmous. It was delicious. Very fresh and full of taste.  O0

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Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: Staggerwing on May 06, 2018, 09:37:38 AM
Looks good.

You should get some tempeh and let it marinade overnight in something used for meat or chicken, then fry/grill/bake it up and use it in place of meat on your sandwich.

https://www.americastestkitchen.com/articles/575-what-is-tempeh
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: Hofstadter on May 06, 2018, 10:03:55 AM
I'd love to use tempeh but it's so expensive. Woolies has it, 300 grams from 7 bucks. Get bent
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: Staggerwing on May 06, 2018, 11:32:32 AM
Yeah, it is a little pricey but you wouldn't have it every day, just occasionally. Here in my supermarket it runs about $3-4 per 8 oz packet.
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: JudgeDredd on May 06, 2018, 04:38:48 PM
I haven't heard of Tempeh. I'm not too keen on the texture of Tofu so stay away from it really.
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: mirth on May 06, 2018, 05:40:10 PM
What have you tried for fake meat products? There are some good ones available.
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: Staggerwing on May 06, 2018, 05:51:28 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on May 06, 2018, 04:38:48 PM
I haven't heard of Tempeh. I'm not too keen on the texture of Tofu so stay away from it really.

Tempeh is very different from Tofu in both texture and taste. Once seasoned and baked or fried it's more like a good vegiburger-type food. Check out the link I posted.
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: mirth on May 06, 2018, 06:04:41 PM
Seitan is another option and may be less expensive than Tempeh. Been a while since I comparison shopped.
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: GDS_Starfury on May 06, 2018, 11:18:47 PM
this whole thread is unholy.
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: JudgeDredd on May 07, 2018, 01:32:50 AM
Had a weigh in this morning. Started the year at 21st 2lbs (296lbs). Currently weigh 19st 12lbs (278lbs). A loss of 1st 4lbs (18lbs).

That's a nice side effect of my new direction. I haven't been this weight since July 2015!
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: JudgeDredd on May 07, 2018, 08:55:43 AM
Vegan chocolate cupcakes

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Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: Boggit on May 21, 2018, 01:18:26 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on May 07, 2018, 08:55:43 AM
Vegan chocolate cupcakes

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They look nice.  \m/
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: JudgeDredd on May 22, 2018, 03:36:46 PM
They really were - if I do say so myself.

I made some vanilla ones the other day that weren't so nice - came out kind of heavy. But these came out really light and fluffy. Made 12 more tonight and they've gone between the 3 of us.  #:-)
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: Boggit on May 23, 2018, 12:01:12 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on May 22, 2018, 03:36:46 PM
They really were - if I do say so myself.

I made some vanilla ones the other day that weren't so nice - came out kind of heavy. But these came out really light and fluffy. Made 12 more tonight and they've gone between the 3 of us.  #:-)
What! One each for the wife and daughter whilst you hogged the rest? ;)   >:D
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: JudgeDredd on May 23, 2018, 12:30:32 AM
Quote from: Boggit on May 23, 2018, 12:01:12 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on May 22, 2018, 03:36:46 PM
They really were - if I do say so myself.

I made some vanilla ones the other day that weren't so nice - came out kind of heavy. But these came out really light and fluffy. Made 12 more tonight and they've gone between the 3 of us.  #:-)
What! One each for the wife and daughter whilst you hogged the rest? ;)   >:D
Well I made 'em  :-"
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: Boggit on May 23, 2018, 12:41:05 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on May 23, 2018, 12:30:32 AM
Quote from: Boggit on May 23, 2018, 12:01:12 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on May 22, 2018, 03:36:46 PM
They really were - if I do say so myself.

I made some vanilla ones the other day that weren't so nice - came out kind of heavy. But these came out really light and fluffy. Made 12 more tonight and they've gone between the 3 of us.  #:-)
What! One each for the wife and daughter whilst you hogged the rest? ;)   >:D
Well I made 'em  :-"
:2funny:
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: JudgeDredd on August 10, 2018, 07:27:19 AM
Still going on the vegan front and tbh the more I get into it the less likely I am to go back to meat. There are soooooooo many alternatives about and the more I experiment, the more I like the road I'm walking.

I'm now 32lbs lighter (2 stone 4lbs or 15kg) than I was at the beginning of the year...and I'm not even "dieting" - meaning I'm snacking and eating plenty.
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: Pete Dero on August 10, 2018, 08:15:24 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on August 10, 2018, 07:27:19 AM
Still going on the vegan front and tbh the more I get into it the less likely I am to go back to meat. There are soooooooo many alternatives about and the more I experiment, the more I like the road I'm walking.

I'm now 32lbs lighter (2 stone 4lbs or 15kg) than I was at the beginning of the year...and I'm not even "dieting" - meaning I'm snacking and eating plenty.

And what is the effect on your bike riding ?

At least the climbing should go easier.
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: JudgeDredd on August 10, 2018, 08:30:59 AM
Climbing is easier. Faster. Less breathless or at least not as breathless as quickly. Cadence is up.

In short, very noticeable.  O0
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: Staggerwing on August 11, 2018, 09:33:37 AM
Are you completely vegan or are there some animal proteins that you eat, even if in small amounts (ie sauteing in butter, etc)?
Title: Re: Is anyone on these boards a vegan?
Post by: JudgeDredd on August 15, 2018, 07:44:34 AM
Completely vegan