Napoleonic FPS 9 days from steam early access - Holdfast Nations at War

[Cyrano]

I've not timed it, but it felt like the proper 4-6/minute.

[Jarhead0331]

I've not timed it, but it felt like the proper 4-6/minute.

You mean, you can shoot 4 to 6 rounds per minute? Or it takes 4 to 6 minutes to reload?

[spelk]

I give this a go today, really enjoyed it. Graphically nicer but similar in feel to Mount and Blade Warband: Napoleon. Minus the Cavalry.

@jarhead it's 4-6 rounds per minute, if you're lucky, and not hacked down by a bunny hopping french flag waver mid-reload!

The drummer/pipers seem to give you an area of effect accuracy boost, I think. And two row firing lines can be devastating as long as you have skirmishers protecting the flanks.. it was encouraging to see some people form up on the lantern bearing officers, or the standard bearers, and march in formation..

[Cyrano]

Spelk is correct.

Sources vary, but a skilled line infantryman could manage six a minute, a Marie-Louise closer to three.

Smoothbore, of course...rifles are entirely a different matter...

[spelk]

There was a lot of hiding round a corner, with a pistol, and downing the first man that stepped round. Then some sword/bayonet twirling in a circle, whilst the enemy tries to shoot at a moving target in the middle of a load of friendlies.. lone melee twirlers where often quite devastating if they could get to your lines, once in the mix, they could take several men out, before someone else switched to melee mode and managed to get a sabre to them.

With consensual discipline this could be a virtual re-enacters wet dream, but as it is, you're always going to have the leet bunnies hopping  about and shouting Charge every other second. Still, I'll take me musketry wherever I can get it! :)

[Cyrano]

Today's patch addresses TKs -- although in a temporary way -- by turning off friendly fire.  At least it shows they're paying attention, although I've not had a problem.

Also, may I say how delighted I am that ANYBODY is interested in this game :D.

[HoodedHorseJoe]

Took this for a spin myself today. It's good fun - some gorgeous maps with some really interesting focal points and layouts.

So lots of strangers getting together to form lines and have a 'proper' Napoleonic ruck.

I ofc went Rifleman or, failing that, Light Infantry and was skirmishing, although there was a cool moment in the last server I was on when me and four Rifleman rocket around as a fireteam in proper skirmish order, supporting the flanks of the main column.

Takes me back to the days when I was in a Mount & Blade: Warband clan called the 95th Rifles.

[AchillesLastStand]

Been watching videos on this and it looks pretty interesting.
One video was quite comical, they were all on VOIP and the Officer in charge sounded like he was 14 years old. Port arms, and all of the column movement commands were spot on, GySgt Hartman would have been proud. :)

[spelk]

This shit makes me hard!

[Toonces]

This looks just like a M&B:N clone.

[spelk]

This looks just like a M&B:N clone.

Yeah, it kind of is. Only its not a mod, has better graphics and is a smooth experience even at this early stage. And it has naval combat. Hopefully they'll get the cavalry stuff put in there soon.

[Destraex]

It's a little less clunky than mount and blade and much easier on the eyes.
Mount and Blade 1's engine is, after all, very old now.

Nobody complains about their being too many ww2 or modern FPS clones. That genre seems to keep on a rollin.

[HoodedHorseJoe]

As people have alluded too, it's a clone in-so-far as different FPS games are clones of each other.

M&B:N is basically a mod that had been given some coding resources to make it official, stable and justify charging for it. Holdfast is what you get if you take that idea and build from the ground-up for it, which was always bound to happen eventually. Plus, it's shiny!

Like that original mod though, this will be a game that will probably live & die by its community. It's not really going to capture a competitive scene and will instead be the new playground for re-enactors and role-players to recreate Napoleonic warfare (as interpreted by this game).

What I'd like to see as an actual evolution of games like this is perhaps some actual AI work so that they can design PvE scenarios for players to engage with, like a Siege, or something with a special objective. How about a Rorke's Drift style Horde mode with limited ammo and logistics? A man can dream.

[Destraex]

THere is a rorkes drift game in the works. Looks dodgy as hell though.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/401250/Zulu_Response/

[HoodedHorseJoe]

THere is a rorkes drift game in the works.

You talking about that Zulu Response game up on Steam? I've got that wish-listed but not sure how well it's coming a long, seems more of a passion project.