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Title: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 12, 2018, 10:04:22 AM
If the foray into Egypt is any indicator, this will be awesome!

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2018/06/11/assassins-creed-odyssey-release-date/#more-553405 (https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2018/06/11/assassins-creed-odyssey-release-date/#more-553405)

THIS...IS...ASSASSINS CREED!!!!
(https://wtpdiaries.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/300_sparta.jpg)

Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: JudgeDredd on June 12, 2018, 10:25:11 AM
That was Assassins Creed Origins? Was that good then?
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 12, 2018, 10:27:25 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on June 12, 2018, 10:25:11 AM
That was Assassins Creed Origins? Was that good then?

Origins was excellent. Environmentally, one of the best of the series.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: JudgeDredd on June 12, 2018, 11:54:46 AM
Thanks JH.

Origins is 50% off. Do I need to have played any others to jump in?
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Gusington on June 12, 2018, 12:52:00 PM
I'm playing it right now and I'm about 8 hours in - it's very very good. I also did a short write up of it for What's Gus Playing but front page, yadda yadda yadda
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Tpek on June 12, 2018, 12:56:19 PM
What about Assassin's Greed in Ancient Grease?
We could assassinate John Travolta before he makes Battlefield Earth.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Gusington on June 12, 2018, 12:57:48 PM
^This is your best post ever. I'm framing it.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 12, 2018, 01:15:36 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on June 12, 2018, 11:54:46 AM
Do I need to have played any others to jump in?

Not at all...enjoy!
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: JudgeDredd on June 12, 2018, 04:32:04 PM
oh dear. Kind of 50/50 wanted to hear that  >:D
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: SirAndrewD on June 12, 2018, 05:17:42 PM
Yeah, I might be playing my first Assassin's Creed game. 

My wife plays these all the time on our PS4.  Till now I've just been content to watch.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Gusington on June 12, 2018, 05:29:48 PM
I wasn't interested in Origins at all because I thought it was set in Old Kingdom Egypt, like 3000 BC, but it's not...it's set just as Hellenistic Egypt is about to fade away and the Romans are coming in, around 50BC. And it's great.

I am definitely getting Odyssey.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on June 12, 2018, 05:49:41 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on June 12, 2018, 04:32:04 PM
oh dear. Kind of 50/50 wanted to hear that  >:D

Well, greenmangaming has it for 56% off....so around $26 for basic version.

Might pull the trigger myself, although I played one of the earlier versions and never really got far.  Confused me:)
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Gusington on June 12, 2018, 06:24:49 PM
I don't have them yet but the Origins DLCs look pretty good too.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Nefaro on June 12, 2018, 07:51:36 PM
Going to Greece?

Calling it "AssCreed" is beginning to make more sense.   

:))
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: jamus34 on June 12, 2018, 08:13:31 PM
Quote from: Nefaro on June 12, 2018, 07:51:36 PM
Going to Greece?

Calling it "AssCreed" is beginning to make more sense.   

:))

Nef, your on all kinds of fire lately  ;D
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Gusington on June 12, 2018, 08:24:21 PM
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Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: SirAndrewD on June 12, 2018, 09:02:31 PM
Quote from: Nefaro on June 12, 2018, 07:51:36 PM
Going to Greece?

Calling it "AssCreed" is beginning to make more sense.   

:))

Sounds like a recipe for a lot of Tzatziki sauce. 

Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Staggerwing on June 12, 2018, 09:23:19 PM
I wasn't aware that there were Ismaili assassins in ancient Greece. Who knew?
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: SirAndrewD on June 12, 2018, 09:26:18 PM
Quote from: Staggerwing on June 12, 2018, 09:23:19 PM
I wasn't aware that there were Ismaili assassins in ancient Greece. Who knew?

No worse than Rome TW's flaming pigs. 
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Staggerwing on June 12, 2018, 09:34:09 PM
Flaming pigs are everywhere these days. Sign o' the times and all...
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: jomni on June 12, 2018, 10:04:19 PM
Quote from: Staggerwing on June 12, 2018, 09:34:09 PM
Flaming pigs are everywhere these days. Sign o' the times and all...

Love them barbecued baby backs.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: ComradeP on June 13, 2018, 12:45:27 AM
I like stealth/adventure games, but the Assassin's Creed has taken a number of turns towards a regular action game with role-playing elements after the first game.

This looks like Titan Creed.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Ian C on June 13, 2018, 06:43:41 AM
This looks incredible. I'm in.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 13, 2018, 06:50:52 AM
Quote from: Staggerwing on June 12, 2018, 09:23:19 PM
I wasn't aware that there were Ismaili assassins in ancient Greece. Who knew?

Or in Rennesaince Italy, or in colonial America, or in Victorian England, etc.

Just role with it...
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: jamus34 on June 13, 2018, 07:19:03 AM
Waiting for AssCreed Primal. Cause you know there was an assassin's guild in the caveman days
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 13, 2018, 07:58:40 AM
Quote from: jamus34 on June 13, 2018, 07:19:03 AM
Waiting for AssCreed Primal. Cause you know there was an assassin's guild in the caveman days

That's just crazy talk...
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: jamus34 on June 13, 2018, 09:23:04 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on June 13, 2018, 07:58:40 AM
Quote from: jamus34 on June 13, 2018, 07:19:03 AM
Waiting for AssCreed Primal. Cause you know there was an assassin's guild in the caveman days

That's just crazy talk...

Quick, i should patent it before Ubisoft steals my idea.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Tpek on June 13, 2018, 11:10:24 AM
Quote from: jamus34 on June 13, 2018, 07:19:03 AM
Waiting for AssCreed Primal. Cause you know there was an assassin's guild in the caveman days

Quite likely to happen.

I'm still waiting for the Feudal Japan one (playing as a Ninja).
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Gusington on June 13, 2018, 12:42:17 PM
^Me too. But they probably have not done a feudal Japanese one because of games like Tenchu, etc...already a crowded field.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: jamus34 on June 13, 2018, 12:58:01 PM
Quote from: Gusington on June 13, 2018, 12:42:17 PM
^Me too. But they probably have not done a feudal Japanese one because of games like Tenchu, etc...already a crowded field.

Bah, their player base has a memory of a squirrel. I don't think they'd care about a ninja game that came out more than 6 months ago.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Tpek on June 13, 2018, 01:02:16 PM
I was already hoping back in the days before AC2 was even announced that it would take place in Feudal Japan.
I mean come on, what's more appropriate for an Assassin game than a Ninja?
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Gusington on June 13, 2018, 01:10:31 PM
Tenchu has been around longer than AssCreed.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 13, 2018, 03:54:18 PM
^Speaking of...I wish this series would visit feudal Japan. It would be perfect for some ninja on samurai action...
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Tpek on June 13, 2018, 04:09:15 PM
The game could take place in the Sengoku Jidai, it could follow Oda Nobunaga's rise to power, could possibly allow you to play as a murdering Geisha :P and more...
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: SirAndrewD on June 13, 2018, 04:12:16 PM
I think they should do World War 2.  It's a such a shockingly unrepresented period in gaming that I think it'd feel like a very fresh take. 
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: mirth on June 13, 2018, 04:13:14 PM
Quote from: SirAndrewD on June 13, 2018, 04:12:16 PM
I think they should do World War 2.  It's a such a shockingly unrepresented period in gaming that I think it'd feel like a very fresh take. 

:DD
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Staggerwing on June 13, 2018, 06:31:36 PM
Quote from: SirAndrewD on June 13, 2018, 04:12:16 PM
I think they should do World War 2.  It's a such a shockingly unrepresented period in gaming that I think it'd feel like a very fresh take.

And what WW2 scraps we've so far gotten are sadly lacking in hoodies and parkour.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on June 13, 2018, 06:37:55 PM
Just curious for those that own Origins, any problem with CPU heat?  Read in a couple places the CPU gets very hot with this game.  Maybe just an isolated issue but seemed some folks expressed concerns.  Still on the fence, last thing I need is the game to fry my new PC:)
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Gusington on June 13, 2018, 06:43:19 PM
^Not with me.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on June 13, 2018, 06:44:41 PM
Quote from: Gusington on June 13, 2018, 06:43:19 PM
^Not with me.

Thanks...
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: ComradeP on June 14, 2018, 01:22:01 AM
Maybe an early 20th century Assassin's Creed could be good, somewhere around the end of the First World War during the First Red Scare or even pre-war during the Balkan Wars, though "assassinations" and "1910's Balkans" might be a bit too touchy as a subject and area.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Tpek on June 14, 2018, 02:57:55 AM
Quote from: ComradeP on June 14, 2018, 01:22:01 AM
Maybe an early 20th century Assassin's Creed could be good, somewhere around the end of the First World War during the First Red Scare or even pre-war during the Balkan Wars, though "assassinations" and "1910's Balkans" might be a bit too touchy as a subject and area.

They made an AssCreed game set during the 1917 Russian Revolution, but unfortunately it was one of their silly little side-scrollers rather than a proper AC game.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Ian C on June 14, 2018, 04:06:06 AM
Assassins Creed set in 1890's -1910's Paris would be spectacular. If you've played Saboteur you'll know why.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 14, 2018, 05:57:42 AM
^what would be so great about that? They have already done late Victorian era London (syndicate) and they've done Paris too (Unity). These also happen to be my least favorite titles in the series and the ones I found most dull and boring. I don't see the draw of the late 19th and early 20th century in this game system.

...and I've played saboteur. I fail to see the connection. That took place in the 1940s with WWII as the backdrop.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Gusington on June 14, 2018, 06:37:50 AM
I liked Syndicate to a certain extent because I love the era, but the game got a bit bloated and 'samey' - a little moreso than other AssCreeds. I stayed away from Unity because of the horrific launch but will pick it up now that a few years have passed. Never played Saboteur.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Nefaro on June 14, 2018, 10:26:53 AM
Quote from: SirAndrewD on June 13, 2018, 04:12:16 PM
I think they should do World War 2.  It's a such a shockingly unrepresented period in gaming that I think it'd feel like a very fresh take.

:DD

:buck2:
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Ian C on June 14, 2018, 12:24:04 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on June 14, 2018, 05:57:42 AM
^what would be so great about that? They have already done late Victorian era London (syndicate) and they've done Paris too (Unity). These also happen to be my least favorite titles in the series and the ones I found most dull and boring. I don't see the draw of the late 19th and early 20th century in this game system.

...and I've played saboteur. I fail to see the connection. That took place in the 1940s with WWII as the backdrop.

I didn't know they covered Paris - I'll have to check that out. EDIT: It's set in the freaking revolution. I hate that period.

I guess I just like Paris in that late 19th Century period. In Saboteur I liked roaming over the rooftops. I thought it was mysterious and cool.

Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 14, 2018, 12:43:50 PM
Quote from: Ian C on June 14, 2018, 12:24:04 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on June 14, 2018, 05:57:42 AM
^what would be so great about that? They have already done late Victorian era London (syndicate) and they've done Paris too (Unity). These also happen to be my least favorite titles in the series and the ones I found most dull and boring. I don't see the draw of the late 19th and early 20th century in this game system.

...and I've played saboteur. I fail to see the connection. That took place in the 1940s with WWII as the backdrop.

I didn't know they covered Paris - I'll have to check that out. EDIT: It's set in the freaking revolution. I hate that period.

I guess I just like Paris in that late 19th Century period. In Saboteur I liked roaming over the rooftops. I thought it was mysterious and cool.

Check out Unity once the Steam Summer Sale hits. I bet it will be reasonably discounted! If roaming around the city is what you liked about The Saboteur, then I bet you will really like AC: Unity too!
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: jomni on June 15, 2018, 09:15:44 AM


Looks nice and immersive. But.....

Observations:
Naval battles are comical.
Lots of RPG elements. AC wasn't an RPG when it began right?
The big battle looks wrong. They should be hoplites fighting in formation.
No stealth?  Are you even an assassin?
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: ComradeP on June 15, 2018, 11:25:54 AM
Wow, that looks silly.

You're sailing around in an oversized wind-powered speedboat, with naval battles straight from some arcade game.

AC wasn't an RPG when it began in the sense that you picked attributes or abilities upon reaching a new level, but you did gain new attacks and abilities when you improved your sync with the ancestor (through completing missions). As noted, I've never played any game in the series beyond the first so I'm not sure how they handled it in other titles.

The first game also didn't really have what I would call stealth. Enemies could be in various states of alert based on spotting you and you doing something that wasn't "socially acceptable" like drawing a weapon, but you couldn't hide in the shadows or anything and it was rather generic. You could vanish in haystacks, roof gardens in a crowd of scholars or...when sitting on a bench in between two people. The scene at the 8 minute mark is actually pretty close to what stealth was like in the original, though you couldn't crouch like that.

I actually played the original a bit yesterday and was amused that moving very slowly when mounted somehow makes enemies oblivious to your presence (there was a "blend" function which made enemies ignore you more or less under certain conditions). It's a vintage open world game in the "you can scale this building or rock, but not this one" sense, and I've already uninstalled it.

Odyssey looks like a "streamlined" Deus Ex/Mass Effect/Splinter Cell/Dynasty Warriors/Titan Quest mash-up.

I'm not very fond of all the dumbing down in modern games.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 15, 2018, 11:37:30 AM
I think it looks great and fun. This isn't supposed to be Mare Nostrum and the AC series has NEVER represented itself as a historical simulation. It is based very loosely on historical events and periods. If you're someone who demands exacting historical detail in your gaming, this is definitely a series that is going to rub you the wrong way.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: ComradeP on June 15, 2018, 11:45:54 AM
Well, they get the historical setting and feel "right" in most games from what I can tell, which is a considerable achievement.

I was hoping for a stealth/adventure game, as mentioned earlier. Judging by the gameplay footage, they've moved closer to what other developers are doing with their open world action/RPG games. The historical setting and feel is the ace, but the other cards they're holding don't trump what the others bring to the table.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 15, 2018, 11:55:09 AM
You shouldn't judge the series based on playing the original in the series. The games have evolved quite a bit since the first title was released, what, at least 10 years ago? However, I think most of the mechanics you seem to be lukewarm about probably remain largely the same. I know the series isn't for everyone. I usually only enjoy it in small doses.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Gusington on June 15, 2018, 12:27:54 PM
The ship combat in Black Flag was not authentic in the least but was arguably the most fun part of that game...hoping for the same here.

You gotta loosen up and have some fun, ComradeP.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on October 01, 2018, 05:25:21 AM
who is picking up this week?  still on the fence myself, very tempted. 
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Ian C on October 01, 2018, 06:13:06 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on October 01, 2018, 05:25:21 AM
who is picking up this week?  still on the fence myself, very tempted.


(https://orig00.deviantart.net/1da9/f/2018/274/1/c/new_games_by_jack_o_tales-dco98r3.jpg)
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Gusington on October 01, 2018, 07:33:58 AM
I love that meme, but the chick he's with is definitely more attractive than the one he's oggling. Maybe that's the point?

Definitely getting Odyssey, but definitely not this week, and definitely not at full price. I also have to finish more of Origins first too.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on October 02, 2018, 04:13:01 AM
well after reading some reviews...caved and pre ordered from greenman while there was a discount.  thought i would hold out llonger:)
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on October 02, 2018, 05:00:01 AM
#metoo. I got the gold edition. Downloading now.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on October 02, 2018, 05:21:53 AM
i only went with standard edition....i believe you'll get the game 3 days early with gold so can't wait for impressions
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on October 02, 2018, 05:40:55 AM
^yup. Like I said, I'm downloading now. Not pre-loading, but downloading. I'm looking forward to this one more than any other asscreed since the third one that took place in colonial America.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: JudgeDredd on October 03, 2018, 07:10:50 AM


Kind of looks like Assassins Creed Origins with a different coat.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on October 03, 2018, 07:47:48 AM
It is very similar, but there are notable differences. Choices seem to be much more important and appear to really matter.  Additionally, the new exploration mode adds incentive to searching the map for objective clues and key locations. All points of interest in this mode are not shown with markers on the map, as it was traditionally in past titles.

Ultimately, if you like the series in general, you will like Odyssey.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: JudgeDredd on October 03, 2018, 07:55:39 AM
I didn't complete Origins, but I did like it alot. Much more than my previous attempts to get into the series.

I do like the "arena" - so maybe I'll pick it up at some point. I'd like to try and finish Origins first. Plus there's RDR2 coming out along with X4  <:-)
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on October 03, 2018, 08:06:49 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on October 03, 2018, 07:55:39 AM
I didn't complete Origins, but I did like it alot. Much more than my previous attempts to get into the series.

I do like the "arena" - so maybe I'll pick it up at some point. I'd like to try and finish Origins first. Plus there's RDR2 coming out along with X4  <:-)

Yes...no shortage of options. X4 isn't coming out until 11/30. I'm trying not to let myself get too excited over it. I mean, Rebirth was supposed to herald the second coming of Christ, and we know how that turned out.

Basically, I really liked Origins too, but I'm much more interested in ancient Greek history than I am Egyptian. And, really...it has Spartans. 'Nuff said.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: JudgeDredd on October 03, 2018, 04:34:38 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on October 03, 2018, 08:06:49 AM
...it has Spartans. 'Nuff said.
This is PURCHASED!  :2funny:
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Gusington on October 03, 2018, 05:38:46 PM
What year does Odyssey begin in? I thought I would have no interest in Origins until I learned that it was set in 1st century BC Egypt, colonized by Greeks and Romans. And I didn't finish it yet either but I really enjoyed it.

But...BUT...I am also much more interested in Greek history, and definitely the Spartans.

I wonder if Rome is next...
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on October 03, 2018, 06:04:47 PM
Quote from: Gusington on October 03, 2018, 05:38:46 PM
What year does Odyssey begin in? I thought I would have no interest in Origins until I learned that it was set in 1st century BC Egypt, colonized by Greeks and Romans. And I didn't finish it yet either but I really enjoyed it.

But...BUT...I am also much more interested in Greek history, and definitely the Spartans.

I wonder if Rome is next...

431 BCE
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on October 03, 2018, 06:08:57 PM
Can't wait to Friday and I am off work:)
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on October 03, 2018, 08:17:41 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on October 03, 2018, 06:08:57 PM
Can't wait to Friday and I am off work:)

I'm 4 hours in and enjoining it immensely.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Gusington on October 03, 2018, 08:20:43 PM
I thought it unlocked Friday??
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on October 03, 2018, 08:43:39 PM
certain versions got 3 days early
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: MengJiao on October 03, 2018, 09:09:04 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on October 03, 2018, 06:04:47 PM
Quote from: Gusington on October 03, 2018, 05:38:46 PM
What year does Odyssey begin in? I thought I would have no interest in Origins until I learned that it was set in 1st century BC Egypt, colonized by Greeks and Romans. And I didn't finish it yet either but I really enjoyed it.

But...BUT...I am also much more interested in Greek history, and definitely the Spartans.

I wonder if Rome is next...

431 BCE

  Interesting pick of a chronological point since from about that time, the Greek homeland steadily loses power to Magna Grecia (Sicily and Southern Italy -- the Latin name "Great Greece" kind of says it all) and Persia (which runs things in Greece either as Persia or later as the Persians as run by various Macedonian factions).  I guess the assassins work for factions outside of the original Hellenic area?
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on October 03, 2018, 09:27:53 PM
Quote from: MengJiao on October 03, 2018, 09:09:04 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on October 03, 2018, 06:04:47 PM
Quote from: Gusington on October 03, 2018, 05:38:46 PM
What year does Odyssey begin in? I thought I would have no interest in Origins until I learned that it was set in 1st century BC Egypt, colonized by Greeks and Romans. And I didn't finish it yet either but I really enjoyed it.

But...BUT...I am also much more interested in Greek history, and definitely the Spartans.

I wonder if Rome is next...

431 BCE

  Interesting pick of a chronological point since from about that time, the Greek homeland steadily loses power to Magna Grecia (Sicily and Southern Italy -- the Latin name "Great Greece" kind of says it all) and Persia (which runs things in Greece either as Persia or later as the Persians as run by various Macedonian factions).  I guess the assassins work for factions outside of the original Hellenic area?

The relevance of the date is the start of the Peloponnesian War, which factors heavily into the world and story line. You know you are playing a game loaded with content when it takes 4 hours and 30 minutes to get through the prologue. I finally have a Corinthian helmet. I'm happy.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: jomni on October 04, 2018, 02:32:18 AM
So are there line battles?
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on October 04, 2018, 05:52:26 AM
Quote from: jomni on October 04, 2018, 02:32:18 AM
So are there line battles?

There are battles, but don't expect a phalanx. It is LOOSELY based on history, as the series always has been. Places, names, people, legends, dress, etc.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Gusington on October 04, 2018, 06:37:34 AM
'Don't expect a phalanx.'

JH, Quote of the Day, October 4, 2018
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: MengJiao on October 04, 2018, 08:00:30 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on October 04, 2018, 05:52:26 AM
Quote from: jomni on October 04, 2018, 02:32:18 AM
So are there line battles?

There are battles, but don't expect a phalanx. It is LOOSELY based on history, as the series always has been. Places, names, people, legends, dress, etc.

  Sounds very cool.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on October 05, 2018, 09:45:45 AM
Looks like playable for me now....hopefully get to it a little later today.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: MengJiao on October 07, 2018, 09:27:05 PM
Quote from: MengJiao on October 04, 2018, 08:00:30 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on October 04, 2018, 05:52:26 AM
Quote from: jomni on October 04, 2018, 02:32:18 AM
So are there line battles?

There are battles, but don't expect a phalanx. It is LOOSELY based on history, as the series always has been. Places, names, people, legends, dress, etc.

  Sounds very cool.

  I'll try some assassin's creed (starting with Black flag).  This was useful to me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0k2oSu-nSo

Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: JudgeDredd on October 08, 2018, 08:12:32 AM
This is a superb game. Plenty to do and quite varied too. Not like Ghost Recon or Far Cry 5 open world games where they are pretty repetitive. This one has alot of variation.

The abilities upgrades are great. The engravings for weapons (to better stats, for example +4 Warrior Damage) are very good too. Lots of loot to be picked up.

I'm 8 hours in and I've just got off the starting island of Kefalonia.

Very much enjoying this.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: SirAndrewD on October 08, 2018, 05:07:12 PM
Quote from: Gusington on October 04, 2018, 06:37:34 AM
'Don't expect a phalanx.'

JH, Quote of the Day, October 4, 2018

No one expects the Greek Phalanx!

BRING OUT...THE BLUNTED SPEAR!
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Gusington on October 08, 2018, 10:02:58 PM
No...not the blunted spear!!
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: JudgeDredd on October 20, 2018, 01:22:21 AM
So anyone who puts any weight on Angry Joe's reviews...here it is



I was initially blown away with the game. I really liked the combat. I loved the look. It looked massive. However, I'm starting to feel that grind that I've seen in Ubisofts games of the past - and that's mentioned in the review.

Not a bad game - but it's shortfalls start to come to the fore. I'm 18 hours in and I'm still going, but I'm on the verge of chucking the side missions.

There are some great things in the game...but there's some lazy shit in there too.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: MengJiao on October 20, 2018, 07:02:38 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on October 20, 2018, 01:22:21 AM

I was initially blown away with the game. I really liked the combat. I loved the look. It looked massive. However, I'm starting to feel that grind that I've seen in Ubisofts games of the past - and that's mentioned in the review.

Not a bad game - but it's shortfalls start to come to the fore. I'm 18 hours in and I'm still going, but I'm on the verge of chucking the side missions.

There are some great things in the game...but there's some lazy shit in there too.

I know.  How many times can somebody scream this is Sparta?  Before it gets a little old.  And this is Athens is just confusing.  And this is the Argolid is okay, but odd.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Gusington on October 20, 2018, 07:53:00 PM
THIS IS PEORIA
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on October 20, 2018, 10:32:20 PM
i read some background in the game about a Japanese brotherhood of assassins. I hope this is foreshadowing of an upcoming title set in feudal Japan. Would be awesome.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: MengJiao on October 21, 2018, 07:58:26 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on October 20, 2018, 10:32:20 PM
i read some background in the game about a Japanese brotherhood of assassins. I hope this is foreshadowing of an upcoming title set in feudal Japan. Would be awesome.

  The historical ninjas were really much more like assassin's creed assassins than the historical assassins would have been.  Confusing, but there you have it.  And why are the Templar's saddled with being the bad guys?  Is it all thanks to IvanHoe?
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Pete Dero on October 23, 2018, 06:55:04 AM
Did anybody accept the Kalydonian Boar mission in Phokis and survive ?

I wasted an evening on it before deciding to step away from it (rage quit describes it better).

https://kotaku.com/assassins-creed-odysseys-giant-boar-is-a-pain-in-the-as-1829606361
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on October 23, 2018, 07:32:49 AM
Quote from: Pete Dero on October 23, 2018, 06:55:04 AM
Did anybody accept the Kalydonian Boar mission in Phokis and survive ?

I wasted an evening on it before deciding to step away from it (rage quit describes it better).

https://kotaku.com/assassins-creed-odysseys-giant-boar-is-a-pain-in-the-as-1829606361

Yes. It's easily the hardest mission I've played in 26 hours of game time. I had to level up past the level of boar in order to succeed. I've fought several alpha animals since and none have been as difficult as the boar.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Gusington on October 23, 2018, 09:03:03 AM
No beast is more alpha than JH.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Rayfer on October 23, 2018, 10:22:45 AM
Quote from: Gusington on October 23, 2018, 09:03:03 AM
No beast is more alpha than JH.

:2funny:
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: glen55 on October 23, 2018, 01:18:53 PM
I want an Assassin's Creed set in 2018 in Castro Valley, where you have to ride BART every day to your shitty job in the city. The twist is it's still 2016 at Abstergo and Trump hasn't been elected yet.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Gusington on October 23, 2018, 07:59:18 PM
^I feel I have played this somewhere before.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: trek on October 30, 2018, 11:59:11 AM
Thinking of buying this new AC because of the Ancient Greece setting. Of course I'm still only about halfway through AC Origins after all this time. I've enjoyed Egypt but I suspect I will like this one even better because of the aforementioned setting.

For those of you who are playing Odyssey I have a question. In origins I leveled up my character leaning just as much to the archer aspect as I did close combat with sword. I tended to attack enemy settlements and forts by eliminating many enemies at range with the bow before going in and dealing with the rest in close combat. I haven't watched any play-through videos as of yet on YouTube. Do you have the same archer option for your character in Odyssey as I've chosen in Origins? Using the bow is probably my favorite thing in Origins.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on October 30, 2018, 01:39:08 PM
^Yes! There are three areas that you can focus on in Odyssey. Archer, Warrior and Assassin. I find all of the unlockable abilities to be very useful. If you like Origins and have a preference for ancient Greece, you'll love the game. Its really great!
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Pete Dero on October 30, 2018, 02:06:20 PM
Quote from: trek on October 30, 2018, 11:59:11 AM
Thinking of buying this new AC because of the Ancient Greece setting. Of course I'm still only about halfway through AC Origins after all this time. 

I am already further in Odyssey than I ever got in Origins.  It is a bit more RPG, has more content and I enjoy playing as Kassandra (nice voice acting).

Quote from: trek on October 30, 2018, 11:59:11 AM
I tended to attack enemy settlements and forts by eliminating many enemies at range with the bow before going in and dealing with the rest in close combat.

The fun part is trying different things.  You can use your bow at range, you can get close and assassinate them or you can go in swinging a spear.
With the RPG part of the game you can unlock the abilities that suite your playstyle (Archer, Warrior, Assassin or a mix of them, like Jarhead mentioned).
A big plus is that at any time you can reset all the abilities to try a new playstyle.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: trek on October 30, 2018, 07:20:50 PM
Thanks guys I appreciate the info. From your response and some of the reviews I've read most people seem to think Odyssey is overall an even better game than Origins. Some are even saying it's the best AC ever.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: steve58 on December 17, 2018, 10:40:03 AM
...just an FYI.

https://news.ubisoft.com/en-us/article/341869/project-stream-participants-to-get-free-pc-copy-of-assassins-creed-odyssey
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Pete Dero on December 17, 2018, 11:06:34 AM
Quote from: steve58 on December 17, 2018, 10:40:03 AM
...just an FYI.

https://news.ubisoft.com/en-us/article/341869/project-stream-participants-to-get-free-pc-copy-of-assassins-creed-odyssey

And if you don't get if for free it is already 50% off ! (even the gold version)

https://www.fanatical.com/en/game/assassins-creed-odyssey
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Tpek on December 17, 2018, 02:37:34 PM
Quote from: Pete Dero on December 17, 2018, 11:06:34 AM
Quote from: steve58 on December 17, 2018, 10:40:03 AM
...just an FYI.

https://news.ubisoft.com/en-us/article/341869/project-stream-participants-to-get-free-pc-copy-of-assassins-creed-odyssey

And if you don't get if for free it is already 50% off ! (even the gold version)

https://www.fanatical.com/en/game/assassins-creed-odyssey

Humble Store has the same shtick (alongside other AC games):
https://www.humblebundle.com/store/promo/assassins-creed-week
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: glen55 on December 18, 2018, 12:14:12 PM
I haven't played all the Assassin's Creed games: maybe half or a little more. I always have fun for a while and get bored.

Not this one. This is BY FAR the best AC game I have played. I'll put it this way: by far my most fun ever in AC has been the naval bit in Black Flag, but here the naval combat is just as fun, and probably better because the ocean is bigger, yet I have my most fun playing on land. Not only have they added satisfying RPG elements, but the melee combat is GREATLY improved over what AC games have provided in the past. Reminiscent of Kingdom Come Deliverance except a bit easier to grasp.

Huge map, scores if not hundreds of quests, and they never got lazy on them, either: almost all the quest-givers are developed into characters. Better-than-usual story, too, with excellent voice-acting by the mains, Kassandra and Alexios (you pick boy or girl at the beginning and get to be K or A). And you get to meet Socrates, Hippocrates, Pythagoras, Demosthenes, Alcibiades, Pericles, Euripides, Sophocles and many more.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Gusington on December 18, 2018, 12:32:39 PM
You sir...are speaking my language. You should work for UbiSoft's marketing department. Hard to resist buying this until I finish Origins.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: glen55 on December 18, 2018, 12:36:58 PM
Quote from: Gusington on December 18, 2018, 12:32:39 PM
You sir...are speaking my language. You should work for UbiSoft's marketing department. Hard to resist buying this until I finish Origins.

Even my wife is hooked. First time we've been hooked on the same game.

But there's always the "better price" aspect of waiting.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Gusington on December 18, 2018, 12:49:41 PM
My OCD has some effect on my purchasing. But posts like yours makes me wants it/needs it more. Plus some of the most fun I've ever had gaming was in the naval sandbox in Black Flag. I rationed playing that game just so I could go back to some fresh content periodically.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Pete Dero on December 18, 2018, 01:18:13 PM
Only AC game I finished (131 hours) !!
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Tpek on December 20, 2018, 03:45:35 PM
I bought AC Odyssey through Humble Store, and got with it the (yet to be released) remastered version of AC3.

I wonder if I should continue my game of AC3 of which I'm in the middle (in the middle of procrastinating :P ), or wait for the remaster and spend all those countless hours all over again.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Pete Dero on May 08, 2019, 10:53:06 AM
https://www.fanatical.com/en/game/assassins-creed-odyssey  -63% !!

Other AC games also on sale : https://www.fanatical.com/en/franchises/assassin's-creed
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Yskonyn on May 08, 2019, 11:02:33 AM
Still weird that they didn't call this Assassins Greece.  L:-)
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Gusington on May 08, 2019, 02:00:52 PM
Just started to play this and the hype is pretty justified. It feels like the Witcher set in ancient Greece...if you're in to that sort of thing. After 2.5 hours of play I got up to level 4. Intro to the world is gradual and accessible. Combat is fun and so is tricking out your avatar with armor and weapons. Can't wait to see more.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: jamus34 on May 09, 2019, 09:38:18 AM
Agreed Gus. I got this on PS4 a couple of weeks ago and I just finished what could be considered the intro. Loving it so far and I think ubi took the right approach here.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Gusington on May 09, 2019, 12:33:47 PM
How long was that intro for you? I am assuming it was just on that first island to get you leveled up enough to not get slaughtered further out in the world. I can't wait to see the bigger cities.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: jamus34 on May 09, 2019, 12:56:36 PM
Quote from: Gusington on May 09, 2019, 12:33:47 PM
How long was that intro for you? I am assuming it was just on that first island to get you leveled up enough to not get slaughtered further out in the world. I can't wait to see the bigger cities.

No idea really as I was playing here and there. Maybe 10 hours because I was exploring and doing side quests but I imagine if you are speed running you can do it in a quarter of the time or less.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Gusington on May 09, 2019, 05:27:08 PM
Nah this is one to savor.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: JasonPratt on May 09, 2019, 06:52:37 PM
After many years of buying the early installments of the series on sale (I think I'm up through 3, though not the remastered edition of course), I have finally managed to get over my annoyance and disappointment with the first entry enough to load up 2 tonight and kick off Ezio's epic saga this weekend!
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: jamus34 on May 10, 2019, 04:58:44 AM
Quote from: Gusington on May 09, 2019, 05:27:08 PM
Nah this is one to savor.

Agreed which is why I took my time. I didn't 100% it but did a good amount on the island.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Ian C on May 10, 2019, 05:26:27 AM
Have they fixed the framerate / stuttering bug on this yet?
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Yskonyn on May 10, 2019, 06:24:51 AM
I still have the Pirate themed one shrinkwrapped on my PS4 drawer. It's supposedly a great game in the series, but I just haven't come around to playing it.
While I absolutely loved the attention to detail of the world in the first two games, the gameplay really was much too repetitive for me. I think that fear is what's might hold me from starting the above game.
Has the gameplay loop been improved at all with the later games?
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Post by: Pete Dero on May 10, 2019, 06:46:38 AM
Quote from: Ian C on May 10, 2019, 05:26:27 AM
Have they fixed the framerate / stuttering bug on this yet?

On my not so new pc I never had any issues.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Pete Dero on May 10, 2019, 06:51:46 AM
Quote from: Yskonyn on May 10, 2019, 06:24:51 AM
It's supposedly a great game in the series, but I just haven't come around to playing it.

Has the gameplay loop been improved at all with the later games?

It is the best game in the series.  I feel it is even a big improvement over the previous one (Origins).

Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Gusington on May 10, 2019, 08:28:45 AM
I've spent about 5 hours with Odyssey and I can tell it's going to be great. My favorite of all time is Black Flag. I love Origins too...Odyssey, Origins and Black Flag are my top 3...even in this early stage with Odyssey.
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Post by: glen55 on May 10, 2019, 04:06:11 PM
Quote from: Yskonyn on May 10, 2019, 06:24:51 AM
I still have the Pirate themed one shrinkwrapped on my PS4 drawer. It's supposedly a great game in the series, but I just haven't come around to playing it.
While I absolutely loved the attention to detail of the world in the first two games, the gameplay really was much too repetitive for me. I think that fear is what's might hold me from starting the above game.
Has the gameplay loop been improved at all with the later games?

Very much so. The combat has gone from horrible to excellent, and there is a full-featured RPG with multiple upgrade paths under the hood, not to mention tons of variable loot.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Gusington on May 10, 2019, 05:20:36 PM
Aren't there also massive battles with dozens of hoplites on each side that the player can participate in? Can't wait for those.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Yskonyn on March 28, 2020, 04:42:52 AM
Picked up Odyssey in the daily deal on ps4 a few days ago. Will start it up today and see what gives.  :bd:
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Gusington on March 28, 2020, 05:50:40 PM
My favorite one in the series followed very closely by Black Flag and Origins.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Yskonyn on March 29, 2020, 11:19:35 AM
Having fun so far.
Just got the big ship and will head to the mainland next.

The only thing that irks me is that movement speed is off.
Running seems to be at 1.5 x realistic speed.
Very weird with the otherwise realistic-like style.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Gusington on March 29, 2020, 04:31:25 PM
IIRC I felt similarly about running but I loved the naval part of the game.

Damn now you have me hankering to go back...