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Title: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 12, 2018, 09:04:22 AM
If the foray into Egypt is any indicator, this will be awesome!

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2018/06/11/assassins-creed-odyssey-release-date/#more-553405 (https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2018/06/11/assassins-creed-odyssey-release-date/#more-553405)

THIS...IS...ASSASSINS CREED!!!!
(https://wtpdiaries.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/300_sparta.jpg)

Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: JudgeDredd on June 12, 2018, 09:25:11 AM
That was Assassins Creed Origins? Was that good then?
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 12, 2018, 09:27:25 AM
That was Assassins Creed Origins? Was that good then?

Origins was excellent. Environmentally, one of the best of the series.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: JudgeDredd on June 12, 2018, 10:54:46 AM
Thanks JH.

Origins is 50% off. Do I need to have played any others to jump in?
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Gusington on June 12, 2018, 11:52:00 AM
Iím playing it right now and Iím about 8 hours in - itís very very good. I also did a short write up of it for Whatís Gus Playing but front page, yadda yadda yadda
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Tpek on June 12, 2018, 11:56:19 AM
What about Assassin's Greed in Ancient Grease?
We could assassinate John Travolta before he makes Battlefield Earth.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Gusington on June 12, 2018, 11:57:48 AM
^This is your best post ever. Iím framing it.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 12, 2018, 12:15:36 PM
Do I need to have played any others to jump in?

Not at all...enjoy!
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: JudgeDredd on June 12, 2018, 03:32:04 PM
oh dear. Kind of 50/50 wanted to hear that  >:D
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: SirAndrewD on June 12, 2018, 04:17:42 PM
Yeah, I might be playing my first Assassin's Creed game. 

My wife plays these all the time on our PS4.  Till now I've just been content to watch.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Gusington on June 12, 2018, 04:29:48 PM
I wasn't interested in Origins at all because I thought it was set in Old Kingdom Egypt, like 3000 BC, but it's not...it's set just as Hellenistic Egypt is about to fade away and the Romans are coming in, around 50BC. And it's great.

I am definitely getting Odyssey.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on June 12, 2018, 04:49:41 PM
oh dear. Kind of 50/50 wanted to hear that  >:D

Well, greenmangaming has it for 56% off....so around $26 for basic version.

Might pull the trigger myself, although I played one of the earlier versions and never really got far.  Confused me:)
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Gusington on June 12, 2018, 05:24:49 PM
I donít have them yet but the Origins DLCs look pretty good too.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Nefaro on June 12, 2018, 06:51:36 PM
Going to Greece?

Calling it "AssCreed" is beginning to make more sense.   

 :))
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: jamus34 on June 12, 2018, 07:13:31 PM
Going to Greece?

Calling it "AssCreed" is beginning to make more sense.   

 :))

Nef, your on all kinds of fire lately  ;D
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Gusington on June 12, 2018, 07:24:21 PM
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Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: SirAndrewD on June 12, 2018, 08:02:31 PM
Going to Greece?

Calling it "AssCreed" is beginning to make more sense.   

 :))

Sounds like a recipe for a lot of Tzatziki sauce. 

Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Staggerwing on June 12, 2018, 08:23:19 PM
I wasn't aware that there were Ismaili assassins in ancient Greece. Who knew?
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: SirAndrewD on June 12, 2018, 08:26:18 PM
I wasn't aware that there were Ismaili assassins in ancient Greece. Who knew?

No worse than Rome TW's flaming pigs. 
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Staggerwing on June 12, 2018, 08:34:09 PM
Flaming pigs are everywhere these days. Sign o' the times and all...
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: jomni on June 12, 2018, 09:04:19 PM
Flaming pigs are everywhere these days. Sign o' the times and all...

Love them barbecued baby backs.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: ComradeP on June 12, 2018, 11:45:27 PM
I like stealth/adventure games, but the Assassin's Creed has taken a number of turns towards a regular action game with role-playing elements after the first game.

This looks like Titan Creed.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Ian C on June 13, 2018, 05:43:41 AM
This looks incredible. I'm in.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 13, 2018, 05:50:52 AM
I wasn't aware that there were Ismaili assassins in ancient Greece. Who knew?

Or in Rennesaince Italy, or in colonial America, or in Victorian England, etc.

Just role with it...
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: jamus34 on June 13, 2018, 06:19:03 AM
Waiting for AssCreed Primal. Cause you know there was an assassinís guild in the caveman days
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 13, 2018, 06:58:40 AM
Waiting for AssCreed Primal. Cause you know there was an assassinís guild in the caveman days

Thatís just crazy talk...
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: jamus34 on June 13, 2018, 08:23:04 AM
Waiting for AssCreed Primal. Cause you know there was an assassinís guild in the caveman days

Thatís just crazy talk...

Quick, i should patent it before Ubisoft steals my idea.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Tpek on June 13, 2018, 10:10:24 AM
Waiting for AssCreed Primal. Cause you know there was an assassinís guild in the caveman days

Quite likely to happen.

I'm still waiting for the Feudal Japan one (playing as a Ninja).
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Gusington on June 13, 2018, 11:42:17 AM
^Me too. But they probably have not done a feudal Japanese one because of games like Tenchu, etc...already a crowded field.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: jamus34 on June 13, 2018, 11:58:01 AM
^Me too. But they probably have not done a feudal Japanese one because of games like Tenchu, etc...already a crowded field.

Bah, their player base has a memory of a squirrel. I donít think theyíd care about a ninja game that came out more than 6 months ago.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Tpek on June 13, 2018, 12:02:16 PM
I was already hoping back in the days before AC2 was even announced that it would take place in Feudal Japan.
I mean come on, what's more appropriate for an Assassin game than a Ninja?
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Gusington on June 13, 2018, 12:10:31 PM
Tenchu has been around longer than AssCreed.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 13, 2018, 02:54:18 PM
^Speaking of...I wish this series would visit feudal Japan. It would be perfect for some ninja on samurai action...
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Tpek on June 13, 2018, 03:09:15 PM
The game could take place in the Sengoku Jidai, it could follow Oda Nobunaga's rise to power, could possibly allow you to play as a murdering Geisha :P and more...
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: SirAndrewD on June 13, 2018, 03:12:16 PM
I think they should do World War 2.  It's a such a shockingly unrepresented period in gaming that I think it'd feel like a very fresh take. 
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: mirth on June 13, 2018, 03:13:14 PM
I think they should do World War 2.  It's a such a shockingly unrepresented period in gaming that I think it'd feel like a very fresh take. 

 :DD
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Staggerwing on June 13, 2018, 05:31:36 PM
I think they should do World War 2.  It's a such a shockingly unrepresented period in gaming that I think it'd feel like a very fresh take.

And what WW2 scraps we've so far gotten are sadly lacking in hoodies and parkour.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on June 13, 2018, 05:37:55 PM
Just curious for those that own Origins, any problem with CPU heat?  Read in a couple places the CPU gets very hot with this game.  Maybe just an isolated issue but seemed some folks expressed concerns.  Still on the fence, last thing I need is the game to fry my new PC:)
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Gusington on June 13, 2018, 05:43:19 PM
^Not with me.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on June 13, 2018, 05:44:41 PM
^Not with me.

Thanks...
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: ComradeP on June 14, 2018, 12:22:01 AM
Maybe an early 20th century Assassin's Creed could be good, somewhere around the end of the First World War during the First Red Scare or even pre-war during the Balkan Wars, though "assassinations" and "1910's Balkans" might be a bit too touchy as a subject and area.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Tpek on June 14, 2018, 01:57:55 AM
Maybe an early 20th century Assassin's Creed could be good, somewhere around the end of the First World War during the First Red Scare or even pre-war during the Balkan Wars, though "assassinations" and "1910's Balkans" might be a bit too touchy as a subject and area.

They made an AssCreed game set during the 1917 Russian Revolution, but unfortunately it was one of their silly little side-scrollers rather than a proper AC game.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Ian C on June 14, 2018, 03:06:06 AM
Assassins Creed set in 1890's -1910's Paris would be spectacular. If you've played Saboteur you'll know why.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 14, 2018, 04:57:42 AM
^what would be so great about that? They have already done late Victorian era London (syndicate) and theyíve done Paris too (Unity). These also happen to be my least favorite titles in the series and the ones I found most dull and boring. I donít see the draw of the late 19th and early 20th century in this game system.

...and Iíve played saboteur. I fail to see the connection. That took place in the 1940s with WWII as the backdrop.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Gusington on June 14, 2018, 05:37:50 AM
I liked Syndicate to a certain extent because I love the era, but the game got a bit bloated and Ďsameyí - a little moreso than other AssCreeds. I stayed away from Unity because of the horrific launch but will pick it up now that a few years have passed. Never played Saboteur.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Nefaro on June 14, 2018, 09:26:53 AM
I think they should do World War 2.  It's a such a shockingly unrepresented period in gaming that I think it'd feel like a very fresh take.

 :DD

 :buck2:
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Ian C on June 14, 2018, 11:24:04 AM
^what would be so great about that? They have already done late Victorian era London (syndicate) and theyíve done Paris too (Unity). These also happen to be my least favorite titles in the series and the ones I found most dull and boring. I donít see the draw of the late 19th and early 20th century in this game system.

...and Iíve played saboteur. I fail to see the connection. That took place in the 1940s with WWII as the backdrop.

I didn't know they covered Paris - I'll have to check that out. EDIT: It's set in the freaking revolution. I hate that period.

I guess I just like Paris in that late 19th Century period. In Saboteur I liked roaming over the rooftops. I thought it was mysterious and cool.

Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 14, 2018, 11:43:50 AM
^what would be so great about that? They have already done late Victorian era London (syndicate) and theyíve done Paris too (Unity). These also happen to be my least favorite titles in the series and the ones I found most dull and boring. I donít see the draw of the late 19th and early 20th century in this game system.

...and Iíve played saboteur. I fail to see the connection. That took place in the 1940s with WWII as the backdrop.

I didn't know they covered Paris - I'll have to check that out. EDIT: It's set in the freaking revolution. I hate that period.

I guess I just like Paris in that late 19th Century period. In Saboteur I liked roaming over the rooftops. I thought it was mysterious and cool.

Check out Unity once the Steam Summer Sale hits. I bet it will be reasonably discounted! If roaming around the city is what you liked about The Saboteur, then I bet you will really like AC: Unity too!
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: jomni on June 15, 2018, 08:15:44 AM


Looks nice and immersive. But.....

Observations:
Naval battles are comical.
Lots of RPG elements. AC wasnít an RPG when it began right?
The big battle looks wrong. They should be hoplites fighting in formation.
No stealth?  Are you even an assassin?
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: ComradeP on June 15, 2018, 10:25:54 AM
Wow, that looks silly.

You're sailing around in an oversized wind-powered speedboat, with naval battles straight from some arcade game.

AC wasn't an RPG when it began in the sense that you picked attributes or abilities upon reaching a new level, but you did gain new attacks and abilities when you improved your sync with the ancestor (through completing missions). As noted, I've never played any game in the series beyond the first so I'm not sure how they handled it in other titles.

The first game also didn't really have what I would call stealth. Enemies could be in various states of alert based on spotting you and you doing something that wasn't "socially acceptable" like drawing a weapon, but you couldn't hide in the shadows or anything and it was rather generic. You could vanish in haystacks, roof gardens in a crowd of scholars or...when sitting on a bench in between two people. The scene at the 8 minute mark is actually pretty close to what stealth was like in the original, though you couldn't crouch like that.

I actually played the original a bit yesterday and was amused that moving very slowly when mounted somehow makes enemies oblivious to your presence (there was a "blend" function which made enemies ignore you more or less under certain conditions). It's a vintage open world game in the "you can scale this building or rock, but not this one" sense, and I've already uninstalled it.

Odyssey looks like a "streamlined" Deus Ex/Mass Effect/Splinter Cell/Dynasty Warriors/Titan Quest mash-up.

I'm not very fond of all the dumbing down in modern games.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 15, 2018, 10:37:30 AM
I think it looks great and fun. This isn't supposed to be Mare Nostrum and the AC series has NEVER represented itself as a historical simulation. It is based very loosely on historical events and periods. If you're someone who demands exacting historical detail in your gaming, this is definitely a series that is going to rub you the wrong way.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: ComradeP on June 15, 2018, 10:45:54 AM
Well, they get the historical setting and feel "right" in most games from what I can tell, which is a considerable achievement.

I was hoping for a stealth/adventure game, as mentioned earlier. Judging by the gameplay footage, they've moved closer to what other developers are doing with their open world action/RPG games. The historical setting and feel is the ace, but the other cards they're holding don't trump what the others bring to the table.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 15, 2018, 10:55:09 AM
You shouldn't judge the series based on playing the original in the series. The games have evolved quite a bit since the first title was released, what, at least 10 years ago? However, I think most of the mechanics you seem to be lukewarm about probably remain largely the same. I know the series isn't for everyone. I usually only enjoy it in small doses.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed heads to Anceint Greece!
Post by: Gusington on June 15, 2018, 11:27:54 AM
The ship combat in Black Flag was not authentic in the least but was arguably the most fun part of that game...hoping for the same here.

You gotta loosen up and have some fun, ComradeP.