The Lordz Games Studio strikes a licence deal on Check Your 6!
"It is the man, not the machine." -Chuck Yeager
Luxembourg, February 01, 2016
Specialist wargaming developer The Lordz Games Studio and Check Your 6! board game developer Scott Fisher are happy to announce an exclusive licence deal to bring the multiple award winning and popular set of WWII air combat rules and scenario books to the digital gaming arena.
Read more here:
http://www.thelordzgamesstudio.com/site/2016/02/3217/
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I played a lot of this as a miniatures game.
Will be watching this with great interest
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Quote from: jomni on February 01, 2016, 06:46:54 AM
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...and also will be watching with great interest.
Will this be something we'll see in 2016?
Our aim is late 2016.
Nice...looking forward to this.
This is excellent news. CY6 is one of my favorite minis games. Would love to see a digital port.
woah....woah....WOAH!!!!
This is the best aerial mini's game in the universe.....
Is someone trying to tell me that this game will now be playable on the PC?....as a playable game on the PC?
If this is true.....too everyone involved...I want your babies :uglystupid2:
Yes. PC will be one of the main digital platforms.
Quote from: Lord Zimoa on February 01, 2016, 10:22:04 AM
Yes. PC will be one of the main digital platforms.
You have NO IDEA how happy you've made this gamer.
ANY....ANY!!!....teasers on game play, what planes will be available on release....any tidbits? :smitten:
Where can I send you my $$? O0 :uglystupid2:
As someone who never played CY6, did it allow for single-player? Will the digital port? Thx!
Both singleplayer and multiplayer modes will be present.
Quote from: Lord Zimoa on February 01, 2016, 11:04:21 AM
Both singleplayer and multiplayer modes will be present.
I will be telling my CY6 gaming group about this :D
Definitely excited for this!!! :)
Quote from: Lord Zimoa on February 01, 2016, 11:04:21 AM
Both singleplayer and multiplayer modes will be present.
Can't wait to lose to the AI :P
Thx Lord Z!
This is great news. I've been waiting for a PC game like this for years.
OoooooOOO!
+1 request for Check Your 6! Jet Age.
I actually want Jet Age more too.
Looking forward to this .. :)
+1 for Jet Age .. :)
Jet Age will be covered at some point, in fact the plan is to bring the complete CY6! series, including CY6! Yet Age, to the digital arena. It will be done in phases, this is a commitment that will cover years.
I know the logic is to follow the timeline so WW2 first then Jet age. But I wonder if there was some market research done (like a poll here on Grogheads) whether the results would show that Jet Age would be the more popular first release.
My vote would be Jet Age first.
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I am happy with either, just knowing that all are coming is good enough for me :)
Well the main reason is that the whole series is build up to go from the more classic propeller aircombat dog-fight in WW2, into the mixed era with propeller and jets like in Korea, into the the Jet Age like Vietnam and ending into the last classical period of the yet age that still saw intense classic dog-fighting like the Israeli-Arab Wars.
This is like a red thread binding the whole series together, with all the changes and expansion that follow the historic path, as it actually did.
So going from the 40`s into the 50`s, into the 60`s and ending into the 70`s, just feels right and the best path to us all. We will cover it all the way.
Cheers,
Tim aka LZ
Quote from: Lord Zimoa on February 02, 2016, 08:20:46 AM
Well the main reason is that the whole series is build up to go from the more classic propeller aircombat dog-fight in WW2, into the mixed era with propeller and jets like in Korea, into the the Jet Age like Vietnam and ending into the last classical period of the yet age that still saw intense classic dog-fighting like the Israeli-Arab Wars.
This is like a red thread binding the whole series together, with all the changes and expansion that follow the historic path, as it actually did.
So going from the 40`s into the 50`s, into the 60`s and ending into the 70`s, just feels right and the best path to us all. We will cover it all the way.
Cheers,
Tim aka LZ
Tim....
Don't listen to these jet nuts....all that propellant has fried their brains :uglystupid2:
Propellers > Jet engines!!!
Quote from: Lord Zimoa on February 02, 2016, 08:20:46 AM
Well the main reason is that the whole series is build up to go from the more classic propeller aircombat dog-fight in WW2, into the mixed era with propeller and jets like in Korea, into the the Jet Age like Vietnam and ending into the last classical period of the yet age that still saw intense classic dog-fighting like the Israeli-Arab Wars.
This is like a red thread binding the whole series together, with all the changes and expansion that follow the historic path, as it actually did.
So going from the 40`s into the 50`s, into the 60`s and ending into the 70`s, just feels right and the best path to us all. We will cover it all the way.
Cheers,
Tim aka LZ
Unsurprisingly pretty much like
Chuck Yeager's Air Combat of fond memory
The progression from prop planes to jets makes sense. That's how the tabletop game developed. It's a natural progression.
For me the CY6 sweet spot is the 1950s before AAMs become dominant. Love the jet age guns-only combat.
Jets are boring. Looking forward to some mass battles over the Channel and the Solomans and especially looking forward to not having to fill in a sheet by hand for each plane.
YES! :D
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on February 02, 2016, 12:08:51 PM
especially looking forward to not having to fill in a sheet by hand for each plane.
+1
Bah!
I'll certainly play the original prop selection, but gimme the Arab-Israeli Wars ASAP. Vietnam too. Oh, and some of the African Wars stuff from JA. :knuppel2:
............
Are the plans to just have premade and custom scenarios available for the digital version? Or will extra features be added such as randomized forces, campaigns, etc?
Also, how many players do you plan to support for a multi-player match?
Looking forward to this.
...and, of course, no LAN support, correct?
THIS is the sort of thing that makes me want to burn PBEM++ with fire. The potential here for large-scale MP is immense and, I suspect, will not materialize.
*sigh*
Ceteram censeo, delenda est PBEM++
Now, of course, I'll buy it, but that was never really a question...
I never play flight sims. I just don't enjoy twitch games of any type (shooters, flight sims etc....).
I have never played and don't know anything about "Check your 6."
Will this be a tactical strategy game or some variant of a flight sim? Tactical strategy flight game - very interested. Flight sim of any sort - not going to happen.
Can anyone enlighten me about the game? [BTW - don't take this as an insult against flight sims or shooters. I don't like them or play them - but everyone else enjoy!]
It's a tactical air combat simulation. It's not a flight sim in the PC sense. It's turn based, you control one or more aircraft, plot movement, set speed/altitude, etc.
It's a deceptively simple game. Easy to pick up and start pushing planes around the table. There's a lot of nuance in the maneuvering and you need to be thinking moves ahead (for yourself and your opponents). It elegantly captures the key elements of ACM. In the end, it's all about managing energy.
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/30958/check-your-6 (https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/30958/check-your-6)
Quote from: airboy on February 02, 2016, 03:41:05 PM
I never play flight sims. I just don't enjoy twitch games of any type (shooters, flight sims etc....).
I have never played and don't know anything about "Check your 6."
Will this be a tactical strategy game or some variant of a flight sim? Tactical strategy flight game - very interested. Flight sim of any sort - not going to happen.
Can anyone enlighten me about the game? [BTW - don't take this as an insult against flight sims or shooters. I don't like them or play them - but everyone else enjoy!]
Check Your 6 is a miniatures game about aerial combat
Here is a short video tutorial about the basics of the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWdchYG1ic4
It's an awesome game
Quote from: acctingman on February 02, 2016, 03:50:26 PM
It's an awesome game
It truly is. Can't say enough good things about it.
Here's a pic from a CY6 Jet Age game I played in a couple years ago. It was a Mid-East game - Israel v Egypt
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1252.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh561%2Fgrovesby%2FCY6%2520Jet%2520Age%2FIMG_2344_zps9f3837fe.jpg&hash=ec882f2c988ddb86e71739a7c34bcbb54bdb5b8d)
QuoteShot of Dave's Mirage lining up on the Beagles. He's too close for missiles, so he's going to have make a gun pass. I believe this Mirage is piloted by Dave's green skill level pilot. He must have missed the part of the mission brief that described the 23mm cannons in the tail of each Beagle.
So we're talking an Achtung Spitfire/Over the Reich type of game? If so, I'm in!
...or a more advanced Ace Patrol. Much more...
Quote from: mirth on February 02, 2016, 03:49:31 PM
It's a tactical air combat simulation. It's not a flight sim in the PC sense. It's turn based, you control one or more aircraft, plot movement, set speed/altitude, etc.
It's a deceptively simple game. Easy to pick up and start pushing planes around the table. There's a lot of nuance in the maneuvering and you need to be thinking moves ahead (for yourself and your opponents). It elegantly captures the key elements of ACM. In the end, it's all about managing energy.
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/30958/check-your-6 (https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/30958/check-your-6)
Thanks - sounds exciting.
Love to see squadron management and some sort of RPG feature\element. Also an actual war going on where you see the strategic map and be given missions that tie into it. Things that aren't really possible to do with a mini's game but can be done once on a PC. I want planes to behave aswell as the pilot flying it. I may give the order but if a pilots skill would struggle with it then I want there to be a chance of it not being pulled off right, maybe even going into a spin or something if the move could have caused this or doesn't pull the turn off well and bleeds power or altitude etc etc..
Quote from: mirth on February 02, 2016, 11:23:24 AM
The progression from prop planes to jets makes sense. That's how the tabletop game developed. It's a natural progression.
For me the CY6 sweet spot is the 1950s before AAMs become dominant. Love the jet age guns-only combat.
I completely agree. The Korean air war has always been a favorite topic. I bought AH Flight Leader just for the Korean War scenarios.
Quote from: TacticalWargames on February 04, 2016, 01:08:55 PM
Love to see squadron management and some sort of RPG feature\element. Also an actual war going on where you see the strategic map and be given missions that tie into it. Things that aren't really possible to do with a mini's game but can be done once on a PC. I want planes to behave aswell as the pilot flying it. I may give the order but if a pilots skill would struggle with it then I want there to be a chance of it not being pulled off right, maybe even going into a spin or something if the move could have caused this or doesn't pull the turn off well and bleeds power or altitude etc etc..
There are existing rules for entering a spin, recovery attempts, etc. It ties into pilot skill and the maneuver you're attempting (aircraft damage has an effect). The game really isn't intended for RPG elements. It's a nice idea, but it wouldn't really be CY6 imho. There are campaign rules and the results of one battle can influence the next.
I'm hoping the digital versions stay fairly close to the tabletop game. It's a great game and really doesn't need a lot of tinkering. That's one of the joys of playing it, you really don't feel much need to house rule things.
Quote from: Jack Nastyface on February 04, 2016, 01:24:25 PM
Quote from: mirth on February 02, 2016, 11:23:24 AM
The progression from prop planes to jets makes sense. That's how the tabletop game developed. It's a natural progression.
For me the CY6 sweet spot is the 1950s before AAMs become dominant. Love the jet age guns-only combat.
I completely agree. The Korean air war has always been a favorite topic. I bought AH Flight Leader just for the Korean War scenarios.
I have Flight Leader in my collection. I should look at using some of the scenarios for CY6 games.
Mirth not even if the combat was purely Check Your 6? Then the othe rpart to the game is Squadron Management and having to juggle pilots for the missions of the day? I suppose the RPG element I was thinking of was pilot progression, medals awarded, kill tallies. This way instead of just a set number of scenarios\missions and that's it. You could create campaigns aswell to really bring the Check your 6 combat into an allround indepth game. Get the player to get attached to their pilots so they have some emtional investment.
I think there's some of that baked into the CY6 campaign system already. If not it could be easily added in without changing the basic nature of the game. Honestly, I haven't done much for campaigns in CY6 and have only given the campaign system/rules a cursory look. Most of the play I've done is single battles/scenarios.
Quote from: bobarossa on February 02, 2016, 04:24:33 PM
So we're talking an Achtung Spitfire/Over the Reich type of game? If so, I'm in!
They were both great back in the day, and bringing them up to date is Loooong overdue. I've not played CY6, but perhaps this is what CY6 will do? I hope so. Will there be long campaigns in the game to follow a squadron over the length of a war/tour of duty?
Any screenshots? Will it be fully 3D with detailed models you can manipulate?
Too early guys, we have almost finished all game features, all rules, the multiplayer system, so basically the core game. We just started working on the shiny stuff... but be sure I will keep you updated.
We neeeeds it.
I hope you code monkeys are making good progress on this. (https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg02.deviantart.net%2F1427%2Fi%2F2005%2F125%2F0%2Fc%2Fwhip_emote_v_2_by_thedragonlady.gif&hash=1ba46f1b5154cb53381668b92c8242d7dee1ec24)
Because TAKE MY MONEY!
(I had busted out my CY6! Jet Age and Star And Pyramid expansion in preparation for painting some of my Vietnam, Arab-Israeli, and Falkland era minis. Which reminded me to come interrogate inquire how it goes.)
Quote from: Nefaro on August 02, 2016, 04:47:20 AM
We neeeeds it.
I hope you code monkeys are making good progress on this. (https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg02.deviantart.net%2F1427%2Fi%2F2005%2F125%2F0%2Fc%2Fwhip_emote_v_2_by_thedragonlady.gif&hash=1ba46f1b5154cb53381668b92c8242d7dee1ec24)
Because TAKE MY MONEY!
(I had busted out my CY6! Jet Age and Star And Pyramid expansion in preparation for painting some of my Vietnam, Arab-Israeli, and Falkland era minis. Which reminded me to come interrogate inquire how it goes.)
I can't +1 this one enough O0
Quote from: acctingman on August 02, 2016, 08:31:12 AM
Quote from: Nefaro on August 02, 2016, 04:47:20 AM
We neeeeds it.
I hope you code monkeys are making good progress on this. (https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg02.deviantart.net%2F1427%2Fi%2F2005%2F125%2F0%2Fc%2Fwhip_emote_v_2_by_thedragonlady.gif&hash=1ba46f1b5154cb53381668b92c8242d7dee1ec24)
Because TAKE MY MONEY!
(I had busted out my CY6! Jet Age and Star And Pyramid expansion in preparation for painting some of my Vietnam, Arab-Israeli, and Falkland era minis. Which reminded me to come interrogate inquire how it goes.)
I can't +1 this one enough O0
+2
Tim,
Any updates? :D
Two things....
- This sounds like it's one of those boardgame conversions that require the tactile aspect of boardgameing. In other words, watching the video from a previous post, I'm not sure this can be translated into a successful computer game
- Having said that - my second point is, hasn't this been done before in other versions? Sid Meyer did a WWI (and II?) game like this and there was a game called Spitfires! wasn't there? IIRC, they weren't bad, but lost their appeal fairly quickly
Just saying - boardgames are very,
very hard to convert to PC whilst keeping the love of the boardgame in place for the player.
Quote from: JudgeDredd on October 16, 2016, 01:39:34 AM
Two things....
- This sounds like it's one of those boardgame conversions that require the tactile aspect of boardgameing. In other words, watching the video from a previous post, I'm not sure this can be translated into a successful computer game
- Having said that - my second point is, hasn't this been done before in other versions? Sid Meyer did a WWI (and II?) game like this and there was a game called Spitfires! wasn't there? IIRC, they weren't bad, but lost their appeal fairly quickly
Just saying - boardgames are very, very hard to convert to PC whilst keeping the love of the boardgame in place for the player.
There are video's of this game out? :uglystupid2:
No - sorry. There's a video on youtube linked in this thread (one page back I think) which shows the mechanics from people playing the board game
To me, these conversions are for people who already know the game and have always wanted to be able to play it at will, regardless if home or on an airplane. I think that is why they have limited appeal. They sell some, probably max the market out at how many people bought the boardgame.
I view it entirely differently - which is what I was trying to say in my previous post.
I mean sure - the appeal to board gamers to pick up a digital version of the game is very compelling to the point where it's entirely likely almost every gamer who enjoyed the game on the board will likely buy it - but the transition from board game to computer game leaves me as a boardgamer cold.
I put that down to the boardgames having so much more to do - the die rolls, the checking of rules, the cards and not least of all the tactile aspect of physical touch - and whilst every boardgamer "craves" for all that to be dealt with by a computer - ultimately I think it leaves some (certainly me) feeling that it did not transition well to computer game.
Perhaps there's an aspect of complexity that may help (for example WitP is extremely popular and that was a boardgame I believe).
I'm not clubbing all boardgamers in here...I can't speak for everyone. But I certainly have not adjusted well to a boardgame that I have owned being put onto the computer with one exception - Heroes of Stalingrad. Conflict of Heroes I did not enjoy. Phantom Leader just seemed pointless and the reason was because you had pretty much not a lot to do but click a mouse and "accept" events.
I summary I suppose they can be done and done well but in my limited experience of boardgames being converted to computer games, only 1/3rd made it successfully imo.
Just my take on conversions.
WitP wasn't a board game conversion. GG designed that based on his older WitP game from the early 90's. That is my memory of it.
JD has it right; boardgamers are used to (and expect) to roll their own dice and to consult charts and actually apply the results- and to know (intimately) the game that they are playing. When you take that type of game and have a computer doing all of that for you; it kills the game. Boardgames aren't simulations; they are games. You can't put tons of calculations and detail into something that you expect humans to work out but that's the fun of it. We like to roll dice and look at the chart and apply the results. Computer games (simulations) are different- they take the complex and work out all the angles, factors and modifiers and work it all out for the player and then present a nice 2D/3D model of the results. And they can click on to the next combat and resolve it all again almost without thinking. It's a related but very different way to "wargame" and both have their merits.
I am not an avid board gamer, tried to play 20-30 years ago, but just not enough interest from my friends and did not find playing solo satisfying at the time....however, there appears to be a ton of good and interesting topics that I would love to play, but never will have the time, space, budget to really get into them. If board games are converted well to the PC, I could easily see myself playing them, but I did not grow up with all the counters and dice others have, so I wouldn't be missing that part of the game.
No idea what the actual market are for them, but I do hope more will be made and I'll likely give them a try....assuming not made by Matrix and costing $79 :)
Yeah, that's a big part of it - live opponents. If you have them available, board-wargaming can't be beat. If you don't, then solo-board-wargaming can be a very "meh" experience (IMO). For example, last night I was over at a buddies house and we played the old "Victory in the Pacific" until midnight. That is a very basic, "bucket of dice" type of game that is not very historically accurate but filled with historical flavor. What made that game however was some good bourbon and the company- we had a freakin' blast! I can't find any computer game that replicates that exactly but I've had a great time with some computer games trying to anticipate what its response is to my actions...but that's a very different experience. VASSAL, as you know, is a way to play boardgames online with others and it has a certain level of satisfaction to it but even that doesn't come close to replicate actually playing live-sitting at a table together-experience.
Quote from: GJK on October 16, 2016, 06:58:01 AM
Yeah, that's a big part of it - live opponents. If you have them available, board-wargaming can't be beat. If you don't, then solo-board-wargaming can be a very "meh" experience (IMO). For example, last night I was over at a buddies house and we played the old "Victory in the Pacific" until midnight. That is a very basic, "bucket of dice" type of game that is not very historically accurate but filled with historical flavor. What made that game however was some good bourbon and the company- we had a freakin' blast! I can't find any computer game that replicates that exactly but I've had a great time with some computer games trying to anticipate what its response is to my actions...but that's a very different experience. VASSAL, as you know, is a way to play boardgames online with others and it has a certain level of satisfaction to it but even that doesn't come close to replicate actually playing live-sitting at a table together-experience.
Can't argue that and that would be great to have the in-person experience....unfortunately just not an option with my family and circle of friends....close as I get nowadays is playing Ticket to Ride with the family, its good family fun, but not exactly what I want:)
Have to admit the other day was in a used book store where they are now selling used board games....saw Gulf Strike for something like $30-$40...that was a game I remember seeing the cover art and advertisements for that I always wanted to play badly.....I even bought the computer version, but didn't enjoy that at all (felt very clunky).
Like some, my real life friends are not boardgamers. The ones that do play games play so-called parlor games - Dominos, Bridge, Whist, Gin Rummy. The only opportunity I have to play something like Twilight Struggle or 1775 is when a version for Windows comes out. I do enjoy playing against the AI (at first) because it's a new experience for me, plus an opportunity to learn the game.
Once I do I turn to async multiplayer (when available).
Pretty much mirrors my experience, could barely get my friends to play stratego or risk growing up, of course during the teenager years time was short between sports, work and getting in trouble. Today playing a good board game no matter what the topic is great fun with my family and extended family. Our current favorite is zombicide, we start that its usually at least 8 hours long. We like making up our own scenarios, you really got to work as a team to survive and meet the victory conditions. It's amusing hearing people telling other players what they should do with their character, the bargaining, the thoughts of self preservation "you shouldn't of went in that room, your dead, i'm out" :2funny: Sometimes it will be a 30 minute discussion about one move, i love it. My 9 year old loves it and the rule book isnt 5 inches thick, its was easy to learn for her and when we can get 6-8 of us together we'll play all day.
I am always up for an air game, and especially solitaire games. I saw a video from the developers, and it looks pretty interesting.
One thing I noticed is that a better pilot goes last, and can change their move, based on what they see. This is an auto win...as I cannot imagine being able to shake a pilot off that can always react to what you have done.
Are there any plans to limit what types of moves can be done by the second, better pilot? It may well be a show-stopper for me...as I just don't have any human opponents, and play strictly solo board games.
Quote from: DennisS on October 16, 2016, 11:31:07 PM
I am always up for an air game, and especially solitaire games. I saw a video from the developers, and it looks pretty interesting.
One thing I noticed is that a better pilot goes last, and can change their move, based on what they see. This is an auto win...as I cannot imagine being able to shake a pilot off that can always react to what you have done.
Are there any plans to limit what types of moves can be done by the second, better pilot? It may well be a show-stopper for me...as I just don't have any human opponents, and play strictly solo board games.
IIRC, from the rules, advantaged pilots only get to see the first few hexes of movement of their target. Not the whole turn's move.
Been meaning to read the CY6 Jet Age rules again sometime soon. I don't recall all the details of this stuff, but it pretty much plays WEGO, with the players pre-plotting a movement code before the big reveal. So the moves are pre-planned each turn, except for advantaged pilots getting a bit of a jump as above.
Quote from: JudgeDredd on October 16, 2016, 01:39:34 AM
Two things....
<.......>
- Having said that - my second point is, hasn't this been done before in other versions? Sid Meyer did a WWI (and II?) game like this and there was a game called Spitfires! wasn't there? IIRC, they weren't bad, but lost their appeal fairly quickly
Just saying - boardgames are very,
very hard to convert to PC whilst keeping the love of the boardgame in place for the player.
I don't think that's the case with this type of game. At least, for me.
I
really enjoyed the recent Sid Meier Ace Patrol games. Despite the cartoonish tablet-y vibe. Still keep at least one installed. Same goes for those antique DOS/Win95 games based on tabletops.
I'll be the first on the boat for this one. May even volunteer some time for Beta, when it gets there. Been waiting for something like this for ages. Take my money Lordz![/list]
Quote from: Nefaro on October 17, 2016, 08:42:32 AM
Quote from: DennisS on October 16, 2016, 11:31:07 PM
I am always up for an air game, and especially solitaire games. I saw a video from the developers, and it looks pretty interesting.
One thing I noticed is that a better pilot goes last, and can change their move, based on what they see. This is an auto win...as I cannot imagine being able to shake a pilot off that can always react to what you have done.
Are there any plans to limit what types of moves can be done by the second, better pilot? It may well be a show-stopper for me...as I just don't have any human opponents, and play strictly solo board games.
IIRC, from the rules, advantaged pilots only get to see the first few hexes of movement of their target. Not the whole turn's move.
Been meaning to read the CY6 Jet Age rules again sometime soon. I don't recall all the details of this stuff, but it pretty much plays WEGO, with the players pre-plotting a movement code before the big reveal. So the moves are pre-planned each turn, except for advantaged pilots getting a bit of a jump as above.
Quote from: JudgeDredd on October 16, 2016, 01:39:34 AM
Two things....
<.......>
- Having said that - my second point is, hasn't this been done before in other versions? Sid Meyer did a WWI (and II?) game like this and there was a game called Spitfires! wasn't there? IIRC, they weren't bad, but lost their appeal fairly quickly
Just saying - boardgames are very,
very hard to convert to PC whilst keeping the love of the boardgame in place for the player.
I don't think that's the case with this type of game. At least, for me.
I really enjoyed the recent Sid Meier Ace Patrol games. Despite the cartoonish tablet-y vibe. Still keep at least one installed. Same goes for those antique DOS/Win95 games based on tabletops.
I'll be the first on the boat for this one. May even volunteer some time for Beta, when it gets there. Been waiting for something like this for ages. Take my money Lordz![/list]
I have played the campaign game for Ace Patrol to completion at least four times. Good concept, good execution. If this is anywhere near as good, then it is a must-buy.
Quote from: DennisS on October 16, 2016, 11:31:07 PM
One thing I noticed is that a better pilot goes last, and can change their move, based on what they see. This is an auto win...as I cannot imagine being able to shake a pilot off that can always react to what you have done.
It depends on the disparity of the skill levels between the pilots. Higher skilled pilots always do get to go after the lower ones. As far as reacting, they generally get to know if the lesser pilot is going left or right and climbing or diving. The amount of reaction is also dependent on the skill of the pilot. It's basically a number of shifts on the turn/movement chart.
I will say this, in a one-on-one engagement an 'ace' will easily win against a green pilot. Green pilots need to follow a more experienced lead and avoid mixing it up with much more skilled pilots.
I imagine the PC game will balance these elements, either through scenario design or by allowing you to tweak pilot skill levels. It's the same in the board game. The scenario needs to be well constructed up front or it's not very much fun for the guys who have to play with low skill pilots.
Also you have to be in a tailing position to get the reaction advantages. So rear arc of the target and within so many hexes for a tail. The advantages gained by the skilled pilot are not automatic, but higher skill does always get to go after the lower ones.
Has anyone heard anything about this yet? Last I read was a beta was supposed to be available sometime this last X-Mas. There hasn't been any activity on their forums and no response. Just wondering if someone who is in the "know" might have some additional info?
Danke!
I've heard nothing about the game but continue to follow it.
In terms of gaming, I've had good luck recruiting non-wargamers to play some of the Eurogames (e.g., Settlers of Cataan, Dominions, or Castle Panic if you want to get young kids started ages 6-8). You can even get some of the co-op Eurogames (Pandemic is the best for simplicity and elegance, but lots have come out and get much more complicated as you go) for folks who don't like competing or just don't like losing to somebody who's played wargames most of their life.
PBEM has brought me back in touch with one or two friends whom I haven't had a chance to game with in 25 years. With kids and family commitments, it's so much easier than scheduling time when everybody can be online at the same time.
Busy here guys, but closing more into Beta, we made some changes so development is taking a bit longer, but this game is getting there.
Gus made an excellent point a few pages back - hopefully this isn't as simplistic and/or silly as the Sid Meier's Ace Patrol series. While enjoyable to a point, those games were so light they almost don't qualify to be called beer and pretzels - more like Kool-Aid and popcorn.
I've heard of CY6 but never played it, though I've played the Ace Patrol games extensively. Which always left me wanting for more, so hopefully this will provide it. I'm keeping an eye out, and thanks for reporting your progress on it. O0
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on March 03, 2017, 07:11:17 AM
Gus made an excellent point a few pages back - hopefully this isn't as simplistic and/or silly as the Sid Meier's Ace Patrol series. While enjoyable to a point, those games were so light they almost don't qualify to be called beer and pretzels - more like Kool-Aid and popcorn.
I've heard of CY6 but never played it, though I've played the Ace Patrol games extensively. Which always left me wanting for more, so hopefully this will provide it. I'm keeping an eye out, and thanks for reporting your progress on it. O0
If they stay true to the minis rules, it will not be as simplistic as the Ace Patrol games. CY6 is easy to get into and play, but there is a lot of nuance to the rules and to the game play.
Just checked out a couple of YouTube videos...looks cool, and expensive.
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on March 03, 2017, 08:13:01 AM
Just checked out a couple of YouTube videos...looks cool, and expensive.
Not really expensive. You can easily get into for under $100. Pick up the WW2 rules and few planes and you're good to go. Hell, you could probably due it for under $50. A simple 4 plane dogfight can be a lot fun.
I have a good sized collection of 1/144 planes and it wasn't a huge investment. For a while Walmart sold some pre-painted plastic 1/144s that were dirt cheap. Bought quite a few of those to build the collection.
Most people use 1/300 planes which can be had for small money.
I don't have any of the fancy telescoping stands. Those cost some $$. I just use the Games Workshop flying bases. Dirt cheap and they do the job.
These are a mix of the pre-paint plastics and hand painted metal minis on the GW bases. We use the small black and red D6s to indicate speed and altitude.
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Can you suggest some sites to go to? I've tried Googling but I can't find anything decent. Amazon shows little if anything (other than Wings of War stuff, but that's bloody expensive).
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on March 03, 2017, 09:05:12 AM
Can you suggest some sites to go to? I've tried Googling but I can't find anything decent. Amazon shows little if anything (other than Wings of War stuff, but that's bloody expensive).
What scale are you interested in?
Probably 1/144 or smaller. The videos sported some big honkin' planes, which isn't of interest to me.
The 1/144s are as large as you'll want to go and they can big problematic for big battles (you need lots of table space).
I've dealt with this company for my 1/300s.
http://www.i-94enterprises.com/products/airplanes/scotia-1300/
My 1/144 metal minis were from True North, which was acquired by Old Glory
http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/products.asp?cat=706
Those prices seem a lot higher than what I paid from True North, but that was at least 5-6 years ago.
Thanks, mirth.
If you get into the game, I'd also recommend joining the Yahoo group.
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/cy6/info
Lots of good info/resources.
Banzai
Try these? 1/200. I'm ordering a couple myself for CY6
http://www.angelfire.com/nj4/armamentsinminiature/aircraftinminiature/9mm/resin09mm.htm
Quote from: acctingman on March 03, 2017, 09:31:48 AM
Banzai
Try these? 1/200. I'm ordering a couple myself for CY6
http://www.angelfire.com/nj4/armamentsinminiature/aircraftinminiature/9mm/resin09mm.htm
Wow. If I didn't already have 1/144s and 1/300s, I'd seriously consider those.
There's a bunch of 1/300s made for the Luftwaffe 1946 game which would work just fine for CY6:
http://msdgames.com/epages/bccb46a7-1a07-48ac-8a77-e8e6cce9e958.sf/en_US/?ObjectPath=/Shops/bccb46a7-1a07-48ac-8a77-e8e6cce9e958/Categories/%22LUFTWAFFE%201946%22
I don't own any of the Luftwaffe 1946 minis, but I've seem them firsthand and they are very nice looking.
There is a guy on The Miniatures Page who paints up a TON of those 1/200 minis. He's got mad skills, but they look amazing. IMO, perfect scale for the game. Price is nice too. A $1 or $2 more than 1/300 scale and half the cost (usually) of the 1/144th stuff.
Here is a link to the guy I'm talking about.
http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=434258
Quote from: acctingman on March 03, 2017, 10:01:01 AM
There is a guy on The Miniatures Page who paints up a TON of those 1/200 minis. He's got mad skills, but they look amazing. IMO, perfect scale for the game. Price is nice too. A $1 or $2 more than 1/300 scale and half the cost (usually) of the 1/144th stuff.
Here is a link to the guy I'm talking about.
http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=434258
Impressive.
Anybody heard or seen any updates on the PC game yet?
They tweeted a couple of days ago "Working hard on Check Your Six! game. If all goes as planned we can present to Slitherine an early Beta build next week for evaluation!"
Quote from: challerain on April 28, 2017, 07:33:21 PM
They tweeted a couple of days ago "Working hard on Check Your Six! game. If all goes as planned we can present to Slitherine an early Beta build next week for evaluation!"
That gave me a chubby. Is that a bad thing?
Awesome! :D
Quote from: challerain on April 28, 2017, 07:33:21 PM
They tweeted a couple of days ago "Working hard on Check Your Six! game. If all goes as planned we can present to Slitherine an early Beta build next week for evaluation!"
<:-)
:2funny:
Quote from: acctingman on April 28, 2017, 07:47:13 PM
That gave me a chubby. Is that a bad thing?
Quote from: challerain on April 28, 2017, 07:33:21 PM
They tweeted a couple of days ago "Working hard on Check Your Six! game. If all goes as planned we can present to Slitherine an early Beta build next week for evaluation!"
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Sweet. The beta, not the chubby. Here in mixed company we refer to that as 'moist loins.'
We're in mixed company?
More like mixed nuts.
My nutz are always in mixed company.
Your nutz are on the mantle next to the dog's.
Isn't that what I just posted above?
Maybe. I don't really read your posts.
You say something?
What?
Sometimes I wonder why Crazy Girl doesn't post here more often. Or any other girls for that matter. Then I read threads like this one. And I go, "Oh." :DD
I thought Gus was Crazy Girl.
^True dat.
Quote from: mirth on April 29, 2017, 05:04:24 PM
I thought Gus was Crazy Girl.
Don't be ridiculous. No one could ever be me... I'm a unicorn, full of magic and mystery.
Most of you here are just plain horses. Nothing wrong with that, we're just different.
AND one of you is definitely a donkey... there's another word for that but I won't be the one to say it.
Quote from: Crazy Girl on April 29, 2017, 05:49:32 PM
Quote from: mirth on April 29, 2017, 05:04:24 PM
I thought Gus was Crazy Girl.
Don't be ridiculous. No one could ever be me... I'm a unicorn, full of magic and mystery.
Most of you here are just plain horses. Nothing wrong with that, we're just different.
AND one of you is definitely a donkey... there's another word for that but I won't be the one to say it.
Spoke her name and she appeared...spooky!!!
Quote from: Steelgrave on April 29, 2017, 05:54:26 PM
Quote from: Crazy Girl on April 29, 2017, 05:49:32 PM
Quote from: mirth on April 29, 2017, 05:04:24 PM
I thought Gus was Crazy Girl.
Don't be ridiculous. No one could ever be me... I'm a unicorn, full of magic and mystery.
Most of you here are just plain horses. Nothing wrong with that, we're just different.
AND one of you is definitely a donkey... there's another word for that but I won't be the one to say it.
Spoke her name and she came....spooky!!!
She's still reading the Forum! There may be hope for Grogheads yet!
Quote from: Steelgrave on April 29, 2017, 05:54:26 PM
Quote from: Crazy Girl on April 29, 2017, 05:49:32 PM
Quote from: mirth on April 29, 2017, 05:04:24 PM
I thought Gus was Crazy Girl.
Don't be ridiculous. No one could ever be me... I'm a unicorn, full of magic and mystery.
Most of you here are just plain horses. Nothing wrong with that, we're just different.
AND one of you is definitely a donkey... there's another word for that but I won't be the one to say it.
Spoke her name and she appeared...spooky!!!
Story of my life....
Wait, didn't I invoke the name? ???
And if you ever wonder how Mirth and Gus got post counts over 30k! O0
Quote from: bbmike on April 29, 2017, 05:55:58 PM
Quote from: Steelgrave on April 29, 2017, 05:54:26 PM
Quote from: Crazy Girl on April 29, 2017, 05:49:32 PM
Quote from: mirth on April 29, 2017, 05:04:24 PM
I thought Gus was Crazy Girl.
Don't be ridiculous. No one could ever be me... I'm a unicorn, full of magic and mystery.
Most of you here are just plain horses. Nothing wrong with that, we're just different.
AND one of you is definitely a donkey... there's another word for that but I won't be the one to say it.
Spoke her name and she came....spooky!!!
She's still reading the Forum! There may be hope for Grogheads yet!
Don't kid yourself. We're doomed.
Quote from: bbmike on April 29, 2017, 05:58:40 PM
Wait, didn't I invoke the name? ???
Right. It's all yours then. I'll be over in the corner.
No, it's just that my ears were burning and I did a search on my handle...
I use it for everything. I've been called crazy since i was 5... okay 3.
And yeah... you guys are doomed. I give you 3 more years.
3 more years til what?
Quote from: mirth on April 29, 2017, 06:09:09 PM
3 more years til what?
'Til we become a website dedicated to My Little Pony.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on April 29, 2017, 06:13:44 PM
Quote from: mirth on April 29, 2017, 06:09:09 PM
3 more years til what?
'Til we become a website dedicated to My Little Pony.
So you're selling the site to Gus?
Zombie ponies? Viking ponies?
Quote from: mirth on April 29, 2017, 06:09:09 PM
3 more years til what?
My sugar daddy promised me, that within 3 years, grogheads will be acquired by him and given to me so I can restructure it from the ground up.
Although, I may change my mind in 3 years, so who really knows.
Damn Starfury!
Quote from: Crazy Girl on April 29, 2017, 06:42:11 PM
Quote from: mirth on April 29, 2017, 06:09:09 PM
3 more years til what?
My sugar daddy promised me, that within 3 years, grogheads will be acquired by him and given to me so I can restructure it from the ground up.
Although, I may change my mind in 3 years, so who really knows.
If that's the case, why wait three years? Have him make us an offer now. All reasonable offers will be considered.
Provider One bids three hundred quatloos for Grogheads!
And I was thinking the price was in dongles or crisp clipped counters? :-\
So I've seen a few thread derailments here on Grogheads, but this...wow. Just wow. #:-)
^As mirth will tell you, this is basic level derail. ^-^
It's all Texas cowchips. After all, a certain bigmouth braggart used to say he was going to buy a site many of us were on previously, but talk is cheap. Reminds me of everyone's favorite George W. Bush quotation, "all hat and no cattle".
Quote from: bbmike on April 29, 2017, 08:37:11 PM
^As mirth will tell you, this is basic level derail. ^-^
Yeah brother, we didn't even break a sweat on this one 😅
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Quote from: Richie61 on April 29, 2017, 08:34:26 PM
And I was thinking the price was in dongles or crisp clipped counters? :-\
Who can afford the dongles?
Quote from: Steelgrave on April 29, 2017, 08:51:47 PM
Quote from: bbmike on April 29, 2017, 08:37:11 PM
^As mirth will tell you, this is basic level derail. ^-^
Yeah brother, we didn't even break a sweat on this one 😅
We have made a science out of it.
My luck they turn it into some nonsense RTS like, well, BF:G, but I digress...
It's turn based, at least it should be....
This is what I was told by the forum moderator on their site
You will have in single player a campaign mode and skirmish mode for the scenarios and you will have multi-player.
We will use Slitherine`s new PBEM++ v2.0.
It allows players to post challenges which are then accepted by an opponent, then play games by grabbing their turn, playing, and uploading back to the server where it goes to their opponent's game list. It will support up to 2v2 players.
Its basically an asynchronous multiplayer - this is what some other people are calling this type of system. You never have to be online at the same time as your opponent so play at your own speed in your own time. It works really well for turn based games as you don't have to wait while your opponent moves and can have up to 20 games going with various players.
The idea is to bring all existing CY6! and CY6! Jet Age rule-books and scenario-books to this engine, of course this will be done in phases, so you have to see this as the first base release in a series, adding new content over a long period of time.
Same for airplanes, over time we plan to bring all that are used in the books and probably more, that cover the whole series, this is CY6! and CY6! Jet Age.
What will be included in the first release is still TBD, but like I said, it is just a first release and new and more content (scenarios, campaigns, airplanes) will follow on a regular basis in packages, after the first release, and this for a few years to come until we have covered the whole lot.
And we plan to support active modding by providing mod friendly editors, but again, it will take some time, but yes we will support this for sure.
Thanks for the update! Sounds interesting!
Just posted over at Lordz Game Studio regarding a PC version of Check Your 6
"The game is more or less done, discussing with Slitherine Beta program, PR and marketing and a release schedule"
Giggty-Giggty!!
^nice. Hope it's released soon.
That's great news. Hopefully discussions with PR and marketing will see the release of some screenshots or somfink. I'm curious to see what it's going to look like.
Single-player RTS with a vigorous economic component featuring wheat gathering.
It will also, inexplicably, require PBEM++.
Big if true.
Interesting features for an air combat game.
Quote from: Cyrano on September 07, 2017, 07:29:30 PM
Single-player RTS with a vigorous economic component featuring wheat gathering.
It will also, inexplicably, require PBEM++.
Big if true.
uhm....wut? ???
Stukas over Catan
Advanced 3rd Agricola
I would back a "Stukas Over Catan" KS in an instant.
I would need to see the A3A rulebook on-line before committing to purchase.
Anything that comes close to Achtung Spitfire! or Over the Reich is looong overdue for the gaming community. Check your 6 sounds really interesting. :bd:
So, beta invites are apparently going out this week.
If you get in (and I don't) let us know, so I can swear at you O0
Quote from: Boggit on September 09, 2017, 05:01:48 PM
Anything that comes close to Achtung Spitfire! or Over the Reich is looong overdue for the gaming community. Check your 6 sounds really interesting. :bd:
I loved Achtung Spitfire! Over the Reich is also a pretty good game. Heck..I played a Commodore WWI turn based game back in the day..can't remember the name, that was also pretty good.
I beg - please try to remember what C64 game that was.
I believe it was called Eagles.
Hmm...never heard of it.
Quote from: acctingman on October 11, 2017, 08:13:28 PM
So, beta invites are apparently going out this week.
If you get in (and I don't) let us know, so I can swear at you O0
Quote from: Capn Darwin on October 11, 2017, 08:42:55 PM
I believe it was called Eagles.
;D
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:2funny:
Ha, I have a Dude t-shirt. I think I've worn it in public a couple of times and got a lot of compliments on it. One of my better purchases.
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Was it silk screened by Toonces in his basement?
He only had me in his basement pit for a few weeks. He has a lot of lotion to spare.
Lucky you.
Hey!....HEY!!!!
No rift raft chit-chat in here. Stay on the subject!! :knuppel2:
You hippies go create a thread about your pot smoking t-shirts somewhere else. :peace:
Quite.
Quote from: acctingman on October 12, 2017, 08:39:57 AM
Hey!....HEY!!!!
No rift raft chit-chat in here. Stay on the subject!! :knuppel2:
Ruh Roh. We got Porkins'd!
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Well we all know what happened to him...no one Checking His 6. And now we are full circle. Happy?
As happy as I can be.
That's...not very.
I'm filled with bitterness.
Let your love shine through, yo.
Last time I tried that you hit me with a restraining order.
I didn't say to try it with me.
Hawt baus?
#:-)
We failed you, Porkins.
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Quote from: mirth on October 12, 2017, 10:14:33 AM
We failed you, Porkins.
Not sure if I should be insulted. That you think I may look like Porkins or that I'd be a shitty wing leader.
^ Don't blame yourself. This is par for the course around here.
I have seen threads get all weird before, but never so abruptly. I feel dirty just reading it, but can't help it.
Quote from: RyanE on October 12, 2017, 11:21:02 AM
I have seen threads get all weird before, but never so abruptly. I feel dirty just reading it, but can't help it.
Can't get enough, eh?
^-^
The squadron replacements need more time in-type! ~~>
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I'm not sure how I feel about a turn-based air combat game.
I played some game a while back, Flight Commander 3? Something like that. It was fun in a way, but I dunno. Something about single aircraft turn-based doesn't work for me. I'd prefer to see something more like the Downtown boardgame TBH.
You'd feel differently if you played the table top game. It's very good and should translate well to PC.
Quote from: mirth on October 12, 2017, 01:19:57 PM
You'd feel differently if you played the table top game. It's very good and should translate well to PC.
+1
-1 for thinking I'm Porkins like
Could be. I'm willing to wait and be convinced.
The physical copy will be delivered with 4 bottles of Jamesons.
Quote from: Toonces on October 12, 2017, 01:18:12 PM
I'm not sure how I feel about a turn-based air combat game.
Heresy!
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I played some game a while back, Flight Commander 3? Something like that. It was fun in a way, but I dunno. Something about single aircraft turn-based doesn't work for me. I'd prefer to see something more like the Downtown boardgame TBH.
If you want something like
Downtown, then watch for the upcoming one, based on the same system, for WW1 -
Bloody April. I'd rather have had
Elusive Victory, and it's Arab-Israeli War setting, but I'm sure WW1 was just easier to start with due to more simplistic air defenses, ECM, etc.
I still enjoy the turn-based ones on the individual level more. Actually, CY6 is more of a WEGO system than FC3 and others.
Quote from: Nefaro on October 12, 2017, 03:20:05 PMActually, CY6 is more of a WEGO system than FC3 and others.
Good point. CY6 is turn-based WEGO.
I have both Bloody April and Elusive Victory. On a boardgaming front, I find EV far easier to conceptualize than BA.
Having said that, now you're talking. I'm throwing money at the screen right now. Hopefully the hard copy will also come with Jameson.
Quote from: Toonces on October 12, 2017, 03:57:18 PM
I have both Bloody April and Elusive Victory. On a boardgaming front, I find EV far easier to conceptualize than BA.
Having said that, now you're talking. I'm throwing money at the screen right now. Hopefully the hard copy will also come with Jameson.
Did you ever sign up for the next one in the series, Red Storm (https://www.gmtgames.com/p-614-red-storm.aspx), on P500?
It will have a solitaire friendly no-FOW and Bot modes included. <:-)
Time to bomb those pesky capitalist pig-dogs into eternity, Comrade! :))
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Ooohhhh... :buck2:
No I didn't see that. I shall rectify my P500 status stat! That looks loin-moisteningly tasty!
Downtown is one of my top 5 favorite boardgames of all time, next to Carrier and then I'm not sure what else.
I've often contemplated home-brewing a Europe WW3 Cold War version, which really isn't much of a stretch at all. The only surprise is that Brimme-etc. has waited this long to rake in the cash. I would have done it 10 years ago and then spent the last decade on some beach in Thailand with unlimited scotch and women.
But that's just me. Some enjoy the English climate I guess...or having less money.
Quote from: Toonces on October 12, 2017, 09:57:33 PM
Some enjoy the English climate I guess...or having less money.
The latter definitely comes with the former. :(
Just a quick update, we just finished testing the first CY6! Beta Matrix installer and all looks good.
So we have given a green-light to Slitherine/Matrix to start the Check Your 6! Beta program. :bd:
Cheers,
Tim aka LZ
:) :) Great news for a Friday
O0 O0 O0
Quote from: Lord Zimoa on October 13, 2017, 06:19:00 AM
Just a quick update, we just finished testing the first CY6! Beta Matrix installer and all looks good.
So we have given a green-light to Slitherine/Matrix to start the Check Your 6! Beta program. :bd:
Cheers,
Tim aka LZ
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Quote from: Lord Zimoa on October 13, 2017, 06:19:00 AM
Just a quick update, we just finished testing the first CY6! Beta Matrix installer and all looks good.
So we have given a green-light to Slitherine/Matrix to start the Check Your 6! Beta program. :bd:
Cheers,
Tim aka LZ
:dreamer:
Oh and if anyone from LGS or Silterine is reading this I deserve a beta invite over any of these goofs on the forum. I'm hands down more full of manure...er, more mature than the rest of them! :bd:
Engage loin-moisteners.
Quote from: acctingman on October 13, 2017, 08:38:43 AM
Oh and if anyone from LGS or Silterine is reading this I deserve a beta invite over any of these goofs on the forum. I'm hands down more full of manure...er, more mature than the rest of them! :bd:
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:D
Quote from: acctingman on October 13, 2017, 08:38:43 AM
Oh and if anyone from LGS or Silterine is reading this I deserve a beta invite over any of these goofs on the forum. I'm hands down more full of manure...er, more mature than the rest of them! :bd:
And he's a helluva X-Wing pilot!
For maintenance.
Quote from: Gusington on October 13, 2017, 09:51:49 AM
For maintenance.
By maintenance he means a trip to Walmart for more lotion and tissue
Damnit, now you have be participating in this childish banter! :pullhair:
Childish banter?! How dare you, suh!
Lotion and tissues are for amateurs. Real men use the apple cider vinegar for real maintenance.
Quote from: Gusington on October 13, 2017, 12:05:23 PM
Lotion and tissues are for amateurs. Real men use the apple cider vinegar for real maintenance.
More interesting than using a Sham-Wow!. Less interesting than using a cheese grater.
Shit.....
if anyone from LGS or Slitherine continues to read this thread they aren't going to consider any of us for their beta :'(
I want the finished product. I'm ready to plunk down the $$.
Me too. Like men. Real men.
Quote from: mirth on October 13, 2017, 12:23:35 PM
I want the finished product. I'm ready to plunk down the $$.
Yea, I'm right there with you.
I didn't get to play enough of the mini's game. Had a dozen or so games under my belt before the group I joined switched to FoW.
Wankers
Quote from: acctingman on October 13, 2017, 09:57:48 AM
Damnit, now you have be participating in this childish banter! :pullhair:
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I hope I get in on the beta. I wrote my bestest letter and everything. (and I always make sure to wipe down my seat with Purel in case of loin moistening.)
Kinda sorta wondering how long of a beta this will be. If I remember correctly, LGS did quite a bit of in house testing.
Yea....I'm being impatient
Quote from: acctingman on October 13, 2017, 01:32:44 PM
Yea....I'm being impatient
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:))
^Hahaha always appropriate
Anyone received notice yet?
Quote from: Yskonyn on October 20, 2017, 12:12:03 AM
Anyone received notice yet?
NEIN!!!!
also, no mention of emails going out from the Siltherine forums either
Check Your 6! Beta testing program starts today on Slitherine, Beta test volunteers watch your emails within the hour! @Lordzgames
:D
I am in! :smitten:
So, do I tell my boss I feel the sniffles coming on or something more drastic like anal bleeding?
Anal sounds great!
Quote from: Yskonyn on October 20, 2017, 12:17:03 PM
Anal sounds great!
:o
TMI Yskonyn :P
Damn, if that isn't "sig" worthy right there......
Quote from: acctingman on October 20, 2017, 11:42:26 AM
So, do I tell my boss I feel the sniffles coming on or something more drastic like anal bleeding?
Are you telling him that you have rectal bleeding because you forgot to check your 6?
Quote from: Con on October 20, 2017, 02:45:10 PM
Quote from: acctingman on October 20, 2017, 11:42:26 AM
So, do I tell my boss I feel the sniffles coming on or something more drastic like anal bleeding?
Are you telling him that you have rectal bleeding because you forgot to check your 6?
:wow:
I'm very impressed with the turn this thread has taken without involvement from Gus or BC. Well done! O0
Quote from: mirth on October 20, 2017, 03:20:50 PM
I'm very impressed with the turn this thread has taken without involvement from Gus or BC. Well done! O0
Have I done you proud Mirth? :bd:
Quote from: acctingman on October 20, 2017, 03:31:26 PM
Quote from: mirth on October 20, 2017, 03:20:50 PM
I'm very impressed with the turn this thread has taken without involvement from Gus or BC. Well done! O0
Have I done you proud Mirth? :bd:
Quite
Quote from: acctingman on October 20, 2017, 03:31:26 PM
Quote from: mirth on October 20, 2017, 03:20:50 PM
I'm very impressed with the turn this thread has taken without involvement from Gus or BC. Well done! O0
Have I done you proud Mirth? :bd:
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^lmao
Quite.
Quote from: Con on October 20, 2017, 02:45:10 PM
Quote from: acctingman on October 20, 2017, 11:42:26 AM
So, do I tell my boss I feel the sniffles coming on or something more drastic like anal bleeding?
Are you telling him that you have rectal bleeding because you forgot to check your 6?
Sounds like he got a heater up the tailpipe!
Got the email. Links aren't working. Sadness abounds....
We recommend using a FTP client such as Filezilla, they tend to work best for large downloads from secure FTP sites and allow auto-resume if your connection drops or you need to download the installer over several different logins.
To install the game, you will need a serial number that has been e-mailed to you.
Here an example for Filezilla it is free:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/filezilla/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adxmlHDim6c
I have used filezilla on a couple Matrix beta tests and have had no issues with it.
My issue is that i click the links provided but it just gives me an error message saying "You are not authorized to use this forum." I'm logged in and I've tried with different browsers but no luck.
Try using an FTP client Like Filezilla, it will work.
Quote from: RyanE on October 21, 2017, 06:33:06 AM
I have used filezilla on a couple Matrix beta tests and have had no issues with it.
Yes.
Use it, SDR. It's not a big hassle.
Actually, you can save the url and login info in it. So every time there is a new beta version, which should happen regularly, you can just run it and it will download the new files for you IIRC.
Quote from: Lord Zimoa on October 21, 2017, 10:23:30 AM
Try using an FTP client Like Filezilla, it will work.
Thanks, I'll give it a try when I get home from work tonight.
https://twitter.com/MatrixGamesLtd/status/957982419210113025
I hear a sucking sound in the vicinity of my wallet.
Quote from: airboy on January 29, 2018, 09:39:47 AM
I hear a sucking sound in the vicinity of my wallet.
+1
Squeeeeeeeeee! :D
GIGGITY
Quote from: airboy on January 29, 2018, 09:39:47 AM
I hear a sucking sound in the vicinity of my wallet.
I do too, it's called a wife and 3 kids.
Hey Cyrano!
QuoteCheck Your 6! also features hotseat and real-time online multiplayer mode, where you'll be able to fight against your friends and foes.
:bd:
From Matrix info page:
QuoteCheck Your 6! will be out on our site and Steam on March 15th, so stay tuned!
Soon, soon.....
:D
Hi guys,
The Check Your 6! game page is up, we kept this a bit secretive, but finally it has been announced. :-)
http://www.matrixgames.com/products/product.asp?gid=708
Cheers,
Tim aka LZ
:o
Looks great! Really looking forward to this title.
No skirmish mode or quick battle generator? Not sure I like the idea of having to rely on DLC and expansions for longevity.
Also, is there any pilot management? Do pilots have names? Do they get tired? Afraid? Etc. Its not clear from the website or screenshots I've seen.
Thanks.
Will it work if a joystick is plugged in?
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on January 29, 2018, 12:36:16 PM
No skirmish mode or quick battle generator? Not sure I like the idea of having to rely on DLC and expansions for longevity.
I was wondering about that too. Quick battles would seem like a natural fit for the game. One of the great things about the table top game is that a simple 2 on 2 dogfight can be a lot of fun.
Quote
Also, is there any pilot management? Do pilots have names? Do they get tired? Afraid? Etc. Its not clear from the website or screenshots I've seen.
There isn't much of that in the minis game. Then pilots have skill levels and higher skilled pilots enjoy several benefits, but that's about it.
Can't get excited about this, from what I'm seeing. Will keep an eye on some of your comments.
Try harder.
Live MP?
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on January 29, 2018, 12:40:23 PM
Will it work if a joystick is plugged in?
Shouldn't need a joystick. It's all turn-based tactical. You're not flying the plane in a sim sense. You're plotting a maneuver, changing altitude, and adjusting speed based on the maneuver and altitude change.
His joystick interferes with other mouse driven games.... too lazy to unplug it to play.... ;)
Quote from: Barthheart on January 29, 2018, 01:43:28 PM
His joystick interferes with other mouse driven games.... too lazy to unplug it to play.... ;)
Ahh...
Looks like a mobile game.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on January 29, 2018, 12:36:16 PM
No skirmish mode or quick battle generator? Not sure I like the idea of having to rely on DLC and expansions for longevity.
Also, is there any pilot management? Do pilots have names? Do they get tired? Afraid? Etc. Its not clear from the website or screenshots I've seen.
Thanks.
And this.
I hope there are some extra capabilities other than 18 canned scenarios.
Been wanting this, but the first peak leaves me a bit underwhelmed.
^ This.
Quote from: Barthheart on January 29, 2018, 01:43:28 PM
His joystick interferes with other mouse driven games.... too lazy to unplug it to play.... ;)
i have the same problem and it is VERY irritating. I've plugged most of my "flight" based peripherals into a USB hub, so I only have to unplug that in order to disable them all, but still...its an annoying problem to have.
Quote from: Barthheart link=topic=16054. msg588942#msg588942 date=1517251408
His joystick interferes with other mouse driven games.... too lazy to unplug it to play.... ;)
Plus the throttle and rudder! Never forget the throttle and rudder. I was using a USB hub like Jarhead but I kept getting voltage warnings so I switched back to regular USB ports. It's irritating to have to plop them out every time I want to play certain games. Even more irritating because if I don't put them in the same ports, some flight sims want me to remap my controls every time I reconnect then.
Quote from: Nefaro on January 29, 2018, 03:01:11 PM
Looks like a mobile game.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on January 29, 2018, 12:36:16 PM
No skirmish mode or quick battle generator? Not sure I like the idea of having to rely on DLC and expansions for longevity.
Also, is there any pilot management? Do pilots have names? Do they get tired? Afraid? Etc. Its not clear from the website or screenshots I've seen.
Thanks.
And this.
I hope there are some extra capabilities other than 18 canned scenarios.
Been wanting this, but the first peak leaves me a bit underwhelmed.
Agreed. Has to have something other than 18 scripted missions. Once they're "solved," you're done.
I miss that Battlefront aerial card game Down in Flames.
That's pure aerial skirmish and have pilot career mode.
Sadly it, doesn't work with modern computers and OS.
Wait, wait, wait...
OK, long work day.
JH's point just hit me.
Wow.
I just double-checked the Slitherix website and it seems to suggest that it is, indeed, 18 missions.
Wow.
They are going to get pounded for that.
Yeah, I read through the description a couple of times. If there was a mission builder or something like that, I have to assume it would have been highlighted.
I didn't go onto the forums, so if this is indeed a feature and just an oversight on the product page, then my bad. But, I mean, c'mon man.
If there is no quick battle generator or whatever one wants to call it, it's a huge oversight. I still have high hopes for the game. This deserves a proper port to PC.
From the Lordz site. Apparently there is a campaign, but no word on random battles
FEATURES:
Set in WW2 at the start of The Battle of Britain, the epic clash between the British RAF and German Luftwaffe
A turnbased, tactical air combat wargame developed with the help of real fighter pilots
18 single-player scenarios with a great variety of mission goals
Two engaging campaigns, one for the Axis and one for the Allies
Cross-platform server based multi-player
Hotseat mode
Hangar with beautiful visual art and detailed text info of all the involved airplanes
Fly and control famous classics like the famous: Supermarine Spitfire, The Junkers Ju 87 "Stuka", The Hawker Hurricane, The Messerschmitt Bf 109 and many more...
An easy to learn tutorial to help you master the tactics of air combat
In game help and manual to explain in detail the rich and detailed gameplay rules
^ Dude, no offense, but we read that shit. What's the stuff that's not in there? That's what we're talking about.
WTF does "campaign" mean in this context? A man needs context! Don't make me start throwing out boob examples. :knuppel2: :smitten:
It is exactly like the original game, campaigns are a set of SKIRMISH SCENARIOS and they are NOT SCRIPTED and they can be played from both sides the Axes or Allies.
So you can play them over and over again as the AI will react on your decisions and you should vice versa.
The one we concentrated on for this first game is the Battle of Britain.
BTW we will release more skirmish campaign and more aircraft later in the form of DLC and expansion, and yes some we will offer for FREE.
We will more or less follow the original CY6! scenario books.
Look here so you understand better what is coming:
http://www.skirmishcampaigns.com/cy6/
Cheers,
Tim aka LZ
Does it work with a joystick plugged in?
Are the advanced rules for formations, weather, surface attacks, spotting, anti-aircraft fire and aircrew survival in the game?
Live MP?
And I can't build a simple squadron-in-squadron one-off?
QuoteAre the advanced rules for formations, weather, surface attacks, spotting, anti-aircraft fire and aircrew survival in the game?
Yes!
To be clear the game is for mouse and keyboard, we are looking into how we can minimize or ideas totally get rid of any joystick-mouse interference.
Oh my. Now that does look good. Not sure of the scale though from the map. I presume the ground map is purely representative and for show. I mean one aircraft per hex so the ground is not at scale...
Still looks fantastic.
QuoteI presume the ground map is purely representative and for show. I mean one aircraft per hex so the ground is not at scale...
Correct. O0
Killing me here.
"It is exactly like the original game..."
Except for that bit where the original game is a TTG that allows one to take the little toy planes and stats and either use them with the campaigns as they come or in a scenario of your own design. The campaign books are great in the TTG for the research and inspiration they represent, but not having a scenario generator -- even a random one -- is clearly to place the money that can be gained from DLC ahead of the quality of the initial product released.
Soon all our games will come in pieces...
^gotta agree. The lack of a scenario/quick battle generator is a disappointment. Not a necessarily a deal breaker, but a disappointment.
Quote from: Cyrano on January 30, 2018, 04:30:42 PM
Killing me here.
"It is exactly like the original game..."
Except for that bit where the original game is a TTG that allows one to take the little toy planes and stats and either use them with the campaigns as they come or in a scenario of your own design. The campaign books are great in the TTG for the research and inspiration they represent, but not having a scenario generator -- even a random one -- is clearly to place the money that can be gained from DLC ahead of the quality of the initial product released.
Soon all our games will come in pieces...
Yeah. I think the developers here could give players the scenario/battle editor with the initial release, which is clearly a very sought after feature, while also still being able to benefit from income generated by future DLCs, which could expand the core game with OOBs, new aircraft, new theaters, etc. I would definitely pay for those...
So this is this the sort of game I really would have been interested in before technology gave us combat flightsims. I mean, now we can actually do all that stuff "for real" without worrying about cards or die rolls, so why not plug in a joystick and play CloD if you want to experience air combat in 1940?
Quote from: Father Ted on January 30, 2018, 06:18:40 PM
So this is this the sort of game I really would have been interested in before technology gave us combat flightsims. I mean, now we can actually do all that stuff "for real" without worrying about cards or die rolls, so why not plug in a joystick and play CloD if you want to experience air combat in 1940?
Because my reflexes make sims not fun to play, I don't have the equipment to play sims (proper joystick, track IR etc), and I prefer turn based games now.
What about dragon riders, alien saucers, and Cthulu? How long till that DLC drops?
Quote from: Barthheart on January 30, 2018, 06:36:41 PM
Quote from: Father Ted on January 30, 2018, 06:18:40 PM
So this is this the sort of game I really would have been interested in before technology gave us combat flightsims. I mean, now we can actually do all that stuff "for real" without worrying about cards or die rolls, so why not plug in a joystick and play CloD if you want to experience air combat in 1940?
Because my reflexes make sims not fun to play, I don't have the equipment to play sims (proper joystick, track IR etc), and I prefer turn based games now.
Do what I do, be a bomber pilot! ;-)
Quote from: Tuna on January 30, 2018, 09:05:22 PM
Quote from: Barthheart on January 30, 2018, 06:36:41 PM
Quote from: Father Ted on January 30, 2018, 06:18:40 PM
So this is this the sort of game I really would have been interested in before technology gave us combat flightsims. I mean, now we can actually do all that stuff "for real" without worrying about cards or die rolls, so why not plug in a joystick and play CloD if you want to experience air combat in 1940?
Because my reflexes make sims not fun to play, I don't have the equipment to play sims (proper joystick, track IR etc), and I prefer turn based games now.
Do what I do, be a bomber pilot! ;-)
Those are called "targets", Tuna.
:cowboy:
We will release a random map/scenario generator later in time, the one we use intern at the moment is absolutely not user friendly enough to release on day one. We need to sit down and make it much more user friendly.
O0
Cool! I see another must buy PC game :D
Love the transparency, Tim! That's great news.
Check Your 6! Dev Diary – Differences Between Tabletop and Digital.
Today, we're here to share a bit of the developing process with you.
If you want to read the whole Dev Diary, which contains a bunch of new screenshots, go here!
http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=506&t=82604
Looks awesome...and glad to see plans to provide lots of DLC and move into jet age. Can't remember is there a release timeframe yet ?
15th of March 2018, is the release of Check Your 6!
YES
Quote from: Lord Zimoa on February 09, 2018, 11:09:58 AM
15th of March 2018, is the release of Check Your 6!
excellent!
I am looking forward to the regular release but I have to say the most loin moistening part is the jet age DLC. Hope that is not too far off.
Quote from: Gusington on February 09, 2018, 01:24:51 PM
I am looking forward to the regular release but I have to say the most loin moistening part is the jet age DLC. Hope that is not too far off.
Jet Age is fun, particularly the pre-missile and early missile eras. Once you get into more modern stuff, the missiles can be brutal.
A big thing about Jet Age is the use of afterburners. The additional movement you gain can get you out of some tight spots.
Sounds great. Should be some great Cold War scenarios/campaigns eh? Some Korean War/Vietnam/Suez?
Quote from: Gusington on February 09, 2018, 02:21:14 PM
Sounds great. Should be some great Cold War scenarios/campaigns eh? Some Korean War/Vietnam/Suez?
Yes, there are some excellent scenarios/campaigns for all of those. The table top version has separate scenario books for each of those theaters. I'm guessing the PC game will do them as expansion DLCs.
Looking forward to it. I missed out on some of the great MicroProse games on similar air combat but I am psyched for this. It will be pretty new for me.
Fix the joystick issue? That's the sale/no sale issue for me.
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on February 09, 2018, 03:19:06 PM
Fix the joystick issue? That's the sale/no sale issue for me.
This isn't a flight sim so I don't see where the joystick would work for this type of game
Quote from: acctingman on February 09, 2018, 03:37:50 PM
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on February 09, 2018, 03:19:06 PM
Fix the joystick issue? That's the sale/no sale issue for me.
This isn't a flight sim so I don't see where the joystick would work for this type of game
:DD
http://grogheads.com/forums/index.php?topic=16054.msg588942#msg588942
SDR, Is it a Joystick or a Dongle problem you're having?
Uh oh. He said the D-word.
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stream starts around minute 35
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Not being familiar with CY6, I'm curious to learn whether bombers-gonna-bomb, or whether they're just flying targets.
They're mostly just targets, in the tabletop game anyway. There are rules for bombing and such, but mostly the bombers plod along toward the target.
Bombers with a heavy defensive armament can be very dangerous to tangle with. I played a game with 109s and 190s attacking a formation of B-17s. Being in the midst of the formation with a 109 was no fun at all ;)
Gotcha - thanks!
I can imagine attacking B-17s would make for some exciting game-play.
Quote from: Pete Dero on February 14, 2018, 01:08:19 PM
stream starts around minute 35
It looks great . But what's with the machine gun sounds when he fired ? Sounded like a whispered clicking noise.
Well, what i see yesterday was promising even when no editor and skirmish mode in release is allways a negative point.
The mechanic is more tabletop than the older OTR and AS or even flight Commander 2, this is good and bad at same time... you have less real world numbers (speed in Km/h, altitude, ammo rounds...) but is less complex positioning planes and decisions are less complex.
One thing i dont like a lot is that game not include at least France (could include Poland and Low Countries+Belgium) to have a more complete base game and sell it as "Blitzkrieg" specially when game has scens from France campaign (2nd battle cover the more than well know Albert channel attack-suicide), i know that this game is going to be all about DLCs but compared with FOG2 the base game is poor in content, is a little empty.
As suggestion they could add "for free" in future, to complete the base game some "single" planes, at same time they release skirmish and editor... i think in 2 french planes (MS406 and H75)... and in future add maybe for free a plane from a DLC to made players could "preview" DLCs using skirmish mode in a limited way.
The game looks like fun but the maps felt too small to me with not enough room to really maneuver. Given the speed of the aircraft they are starting literally seconds apart and I did not see any chance for surprise on either side. I don't get the holdover from the board game that going off the map takes an aircraft out of the game. Maybe it's to keep a player from just scattering in an unrealistic manner to avoid taking damage?. Then again it's not meant to be a serious simulation so I guess it's OK. Looks like a good beer and pretzels game, and that is not meant as a knock on it.
I thought I'd want to buy this, but I'd rather play the table top version. I've got enough PC games that I don't even have time to play. I'll be following along reviews of the game here though.
Have fun all you aces O0
Easy purchase for me as I don't have that large a collection of planes. I also have faith in their commitment to a scenario editor which is a bit of a bizarre omission.
And, since I need to say it, live MP would be nice.
I would love to have access to the models and skins. The Spitfire Mk1 makes me want to cry. :'(
Quote from: Cyrano on February 15, 2018, 01:17:43 PM
...
And, since I need to say it, live MP would be nice.
Dude... read the copy... it's live MP.
Full retraction.
Most pleased!
You should still clip your damn counters.
Quote from: mirth on February 15, 2018, 04:56:56 PM
Quote from: Cyrano on February 15, 2018, 04:56:14 PM
You should still clip your damn counters.
this!
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Isn't Shiva the 'Bringer of Death/Destroyer of Worlds'?
Why would you let such a person in here? What were you thinking? Please ask him to be polite and leave.
Quote from: Staggerwing on February 16, 2018, 08:26:41 PM
Isn't Shiva the 'Bringer of Death/Destroyer of Worlds'?
Why would you let such a person in here? What were you thinking? Please ask him to be polite and leave.
Yeah with mascara and lipstick on
He'll fit right in here
Will he make Vance clip his counters?
Then the get up can stay...
Never! \m/
Quote from: Cyrano on February 15, 2018, 04:56:14 PM
You should still clip your damn counters.
Like Chinese eunuch bureaucrats!
The most important part about a planes wargame is... Well... Planes!
We're just three weeks away from the release of Check Your 6!, and we decided to show you a bit more about the game (and you may have guessed what, by now). @The Lordz Games Studio
http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=506&t=82830
Will there be the ability to Mod aircraft skins to fix some of the visual appearance elements that are incorrect? I'm way too detail oriented. :nerd:
Yes sorry to say have to say this one is slowly dropping down the list. The British planes look a bit like someone has applied the 10% Thomas the tank engine filter. Presume the intention is to reflect the games model based origins and might work better in game but as standalone image it does not work for me unfortunately. (I wish it did as someone who brought Achtung Spitfire a long time ago.) Probably great if you are a fan of the game but if not I'm not sure how appealing it is to people coming to the game without this background.
I didn't notice, really. Am intrigued by the plane selection offered up for the Brits. I've never played the board game, but I'll definitely keep an eye on this one!
Quote from: mkivcs on February 21, 2018, 03:24:41 PM
Yes sorry to say have to say this one is slowly dropping down the list. The British planes look a bit like someone has applied the 10% Thomas the tank engine filter. Presume the intention is to reflect the games model based origins and might work better in game but as standalone image it does not work for me unfortunately. (I wish it did as someone who brought Achtung Spitfire a long time ago.) Probably great if you are a fan of the game but if not I'm not sure how appealing it is to people coming to the game without this background.
The aircraft graphics look like pics of painted minis to me.
You're right, in that they look rather cartoony or smeared in digital form. I originally assumed it was due to low-end tablet compatibility needs, but not sure.
The front of the Hurricane in that linked thread looks a bit like that of a Fiat G.55 or Macchi C205. It slopes too much.
Release is this Wednesday March 14th! :D
Has anyone heard if there is going to be any mod support for the game? I really want to fix some of the skin problems. Tweaking models would be great, but that might be too much trouble with the latest unity based game builds.
If we're stuck with the vanilla graphics, the game may have moved over to the don't bother list.
Wow, seems kind of harsh. It's not like they are Bomber Crew graphics.
Quote from: Barthheart on March 12, 2018, 10:41:52 AM
Release is this Wednesday March 14th! :D
No interesting games should be released during the first 2 weekends of the NCAA Tournament.
Did they fix the issue with the game map moving around randomly if there is a joystick or throttle plugged in to the PC?
Basketball is second only to soccer as the most boring sport on the planet, followed closely by baseball. :buck2:
This will make the weekends interesting. O0
I personally really dislike the glorification of The Thug Life[tm] glorified by the NBA. I enjoy college basketball [and football].
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on March 12, 2018, 02:18:20 PM
Did they fix the issue with the game map moving around randomly if there is a joystick or throttle plugged in to the PC?
Yes, by unplugging the offending peripheral device.
We can unplug you?
Probably should. I am the one who has secretly been making your games randomly scroll.
I knew it! This is how Maximum Overdrive starts.
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I won't let you kill Emilio with a Coke machine! Not this time!
This time I'm going to kill him with your HOTAS setup.
Should work as long as you don't try to run Check Your Six at the same time.
Imagine what'll happen when you plug in your dongle.
Quote from: mirth on March 12, 2018, 05:07:14 PM
Imagine what'll happen when you plug in your dongle.
havent plugged my dongle into anything in awhile. hope it still works :(
Quote from: CptHowdy on March 12, 2018, 05:37:47 PM
Quote from: mirth on March 12, 2018, 05:07:14 PM
Imagine what'll happen when you plug in your dongle.
havent plugged my dongle into anything in awhile. hope it still works :(
There's always SP.
Quote from: Staggerwing on March 12, 2018, 06:02:58 PM
Quote from: CptHowdy on March 12, 2018, 05:37:47 PM
Quote from: mirth on March 12, 2018, 05:07:14 PM
Imagine what'll happen when you plug in your dongle.
havent plugged my dongle into anything in awhile. hope it still works :(
There's always SP.
Start up the long campaign option.
:bd:
So far I've enjoyed playing this. It is good to see a tactical air combat game published, as there are so few in the genre.
I have played a couple of scenarios already, and have mixed views on the game. On the one hand it is interesting with events like critical hits, and a mix of mission types. However, on the flip side the screen is also unnecessarily cluttered, and makes identifying the current aircraft to control more difficult – this is especially the case where there are a lot of aircraft on the map. I may be pre-judging things, but the campaigns appear to be linked scenarios, rather than dynamic campaigns so one loses the immersion of following a flight or a squadron as it progresses through a campaign.
To be fair, I have been spoilt my older air games like Achtung Spitfire!, Over the Reich, and the Sid Meier's tactical air games, which are Check Your 6!'s competitors.
Despite the criticism, I am enjoying playing around with this. I like the game system, so I think it still has plenty of room for further development to flesh out the campaigns, add new ones, as well as add dynamic campaigns as an expansion.
We're you beta testing or playing a review copy?
How would you compare it to the Sid Meier games? More, less or about the same simplicity?
Out now. $33.99 CDN. Downloading now. :D
Quote from: Gusington on March 15, 2018, 09:18:14 AM
How would you compare it to the Sid Meier games? More, less or about the same simplicity?
I'm bummed. There's ZERO settler units like the Sid Meier games have! :tickedoff:
Quote from: bbmike on March 15, 2018, 09:42:23 AM
Quote from: Gusington on March 15, 2018, 09:18:14 AM
How would you compare it to the Sid Meier games? More, less or about the same simplicity?
I'm bummed. There's ZERO settler units like the Sid Meier games have! :tickedoff:
But I hear Genghis Khan, Mongol Hordes and Sweden will be in the DLC!
They're going to DLC the hell out of this aren't they?
Yep.
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on March 12, 2018, 02:18:20 PM
Did they fix the issue with the game map moving around randomly if there is a joystick or throttle plugged in to the PC?
No, this has not been fixed. My 3D Connexion controller has the same effect.... :P
Thinking of downloading this later too.
I will have it as soon as I get home.
It has live MP and I'll never hear the end of it if I don't.
From Vance if from no one else.
Now, about that live MP for FoG2 and Sanctus Reach...
Damn skippy. :bd:
My initial impressions: it's an average game, rather simplistic (eg, there is no ammo count) and while I imagine it's in keeping with the board game, this is not necessarily a good thing for those who have not played it (like me).
The interface takes up way too much screen real estate. Generally, the screen appears too cluttered - the scenic background doesn't help either. Some messages come and go from out of no where and too quickly. The "joystick" input is quirky and could probably have been implemented better. The sound is terrible. There is no ultra-wide screen support. A more detailed scenario completion screen - such as damage to each aircraft and pilot losses - would be nice.
I do like the action, but would have liked greater control over the aircraft, such as being able to perform classic maneuvers (eg Immelmann). While this may be built into the game, it's certainly not clear that my aircraft are performing these types of maneuvers. I assume this is not a feature of the original board game. The aircraft models look fine to me, but a banking aircraft would look better if it was indeed banking. I guess this is in keeping with the board game. Not having a skirmish mode, or an editor, which has already been talked about, is somewhat disappointing, although there does appear to be a good assortment of scenarios.
I should think the more I play, the more some of the game's quirks will grow on me. But it has yet to knock my socks off.
There is no ammo count in the TT game. You can go out of ammo based on die rolls, but you do not otherwise track ammo expenditure.
The TT game does allow peforming an Immelman or Split-S. Those are key maneuvers in the TT game, so I would imagine they are in the PC game somewhere. You have to specifically plot them in the TT game, so they shouldn't just happen. If they're missing from the PC port, it is a huge change from the TT game.
I haven't been impressed with the screenshots I've seen of the interface. The "joystick" input seems entirely unnecessary and not in keeping with the flavor of the TT game.
I'm holding off on this for now. I haven't loved what I've seen in the videos or screenshots. I've played the TT game dozens, if not hundreds, of times and absolutely love it. So far, the PC port seems like a mediocre adaptation of a truly great game.
Quote from: mirth on March 15, 2018, 01:20:49 PM
There is no ammo count in the TT game. You can go out of ammo based on die rolls, but you do not otherwise track ammo expenditure.
The TT game does allow peforming an Immelman or Split-S. Those are key maneuvers in the TT game, so I would imagine they are in the PC game somewhere. You have to specifically plot them in the TT game, so they shouldn't just happen. If they're missing from the PC port, it is a huge change from the TT game.
I haven't been impressed with the screenshots I've seen of the interface. The "joystick" input seems entirely unnecessary and not in keeping with the flavor of the TT game.
I'm holding off on this for now. I haven't loved what I've seen in the videos or screenshots. I've played the TT game dozens, if not hundreds, of times and absolutely love it. So far, the PC port seems like a mediocre adaptation of a truly great game.
+1
Tried the beta for a week or so and just didn't even care to help test.../shame :-[
I'm also going to wait. Besides, I have Surviving Mars to try.
:'(
You can if fact do Immelmans and Split-S maneuvers.
"Joystick" thing is clunky.
Agree that being to shrink the UI would be a great option.
Need more play time though....
Quote from: Barthheart on March 15, 2018, 11:41:31 AM
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on March 12, 2018, 02:18:20 PM
Did they fix the issue with the game map moving around randomly if there is a joystick or throttle plugged in to the PC?
No, this has not been fixed. My 3D Connexion controller has the same effect.... :P
Thanks. Guess I won't be buying.
I unplug my flight controllers when not I use. Is it hard to do for you guys?
Not hard for me... just some people... ;)
Just played an MP game with Cyrano. :bd:
And that's not just because I kicked his ass.... :)
Fast playing. Fun. Beer and pretzels.
Really need to read the rules however to make better choices.
MP can have up to 4 players per side! :D \m/
We were British and didn't want to offend the delicate sensibilities of our Hun visitors.
It's probably over-priced for the average buyer at $30, but I dig it and will play again.
The prospect of an eight-player furball...well...loins moist...
Quote from: jomni on March 15, 2018, 06:01:48 PM
I unplug my flight controllers when not I use. Is it hard to do for you guys?
I have a set of 3 USB controllers I use for flight sims: a stick, a throttlle, and rudder pedals. Plus TrackIR, but that doesn't register as a HOTAS type.
When I unplug even one of them, and later plug it back in, it screws up my DCS keybinds and shifts the inputs between each one. Completely screws up all 3 columns of each aircraft's keybinds so I have to go back and reload all my backup saves (wastes a chunk of time).
Can't recall, but IL-2 and/or ROF keybinds may have had this happen before too. Haven't done those much lately though.
DCS (and others?) obviously detects and register the USB controllers by the order in which Windows detected them being plugged in, every time the program starts up. So unplugging the #1 controller, and plugging it back in would then rotate it to the #3 controller spot, but the keybinds in the program(s) are still listed in the same order.
Not sure if having my controllers plugged in while playing CY6 on keyboard & mouse does anything awry, as I've not played it. However, a few games will register a constant directional input from one, or more, of my flight sim controllers and make a cursor or selection bar constantly go in one direction.
For example, when I played the
Numenera RPG, the selection highlight bar would be constantly scrolling up in every menu. Obviously it was meant to support an console-style controller and would misread my HOTAS setup as that (and constantly giving input). Was annoying as hell.
Quote from: Nefaro on March 15, 2018, 11:09:35 PM
When I unplug even one of them, and later plug it back in, it screws up my DCS keybinds and shifts the inputs between each one. Completely screws up all 3 columns of each aircraft's keybinds so I have to go back and reload all my backup saves (wastes a chunk of time).
Sounds like DCS needs to fix it's games. :crazy2:
Quote from: Nefaro on March 15, 2018, 11:09:35 PM
Quote from: jomni on March 15, 2018, 06:01:48 PM
I unplug my flight controllers when not I use. Is it hard to do for you guys?
I have a set of 3 USB controllers I use for flight sims: a stick, a throttlle, and rudder pedals. Plus TrackIR, but that doesn't register as a HOTAS type.
When I unplug even one of them, and later plug it back in, it screws up my DCS keybinds and shifts the inputs between each one. Completely screws up all 3 columns of each aircraft's keybinds so I have to go back and reload all my backup saves (wastes a chunk of time).
Can't recall, but IL-2 and/or ROF keybinds may have had this happen before too. Haven't done those much lately though.
DCS (and others?) obviously detects and register the USB controllers by the order in which Windows detected them being plugged in, every time the program starts up. So unplugging the #1 controller, and plugging it back in would then rotate it to the #3 controller spot, but the keybinds in the program(s) are still listed in the same order.
Not sure if having my controllers plugged in while playing CY6 on keyboard & mouse does anything awry, as I've not played it. However, a few games will register a constant directional input from one, or more, of my flight sim controllers and make a cursor or selection bar constantly go in one direction.
For example, when I played the Numenera RPG, the selection highlight bar would be constantly scrolling up in every menu. Obviously it was meant to support an console-style controller and would misread my HOTAS setup as that (and constantly giving input). Was annoying as hell.
Regarding DCS, I don't think it works this way anymore.
You can safely unplug and replug your devices nowadays, the only thing that can screw with your bindings is if you plug the one device into a different USB port than it was in when you made the assignments in DCS.
So AFAIK you're safe to unplug these days, however I am squarely with you on the 'waste of time' issue. I should not have to unplug any stuff I use regularly, just so some game behaves.
It's the reason Trackmania Turbo never saw more than a few minutes of 'play' time on my machine.
I have little tolerance for lazy coding like this.
It's not even clear that a skirmish mode will be added:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/715800/discussions/0/2949168661149113781/ (http://steamcommunity.com/app/715800/discussions/0/2949168661149113781/)
QuoteSlitherine_Iain [developer] 6 hours ago
I think there's a misunderstanding on Skirmish mode. This isn't something that is planned. can you let me know where I said this as it must have been some mistake
Quoteemmanuel [has Check Your 6!] 5 hours ago
Originally posted by Slitherine_Iain:
I think there's a misunderstanding on Skirmish mode. This isn't something that is planned. can you let me know where I said this as it must have been some mistake.
Another dev said this here : http://steamcommunity.com/app/715800/discussions/0/1700542332319427385/
grey [développeur] Il y a 17 heures
Hi everyone :)
Dev here - we have the Skirmish mode in the devtest, but it still requires some improvements, so while we keep working on making it available for all of you, let us know what else we might improve in the game overall.
QuoteSlitherine_Iain [developer] 5 hours ago
Oh ok that's news to us....!
Quotegrey [developer] 4 hours ago
Yeah, I should probably explain - we have a skirmish mode in devtest, but it's not complete - as mentioned above it requires some real improvements and it's not yet approved to be released. Sorry if my comment misled you.
So the publisher doesn't even know that a skirmish mode is being worked on by the devs? :idiot2:
Dunno.
I seem to recall unplugging my throttle last year, for some other reason, and after plugging it back in, to the same USB, the controller order was messed up, again, in DCS. Forcing me to first delete, then reload, approximately 30 keybind backup files (~10 aircraft x3 devices).
Could've involved a computer restart in between the in & out, however.
Maybe it's changed in 2.5, I dunno. After that last time, I'm not in a hurry to poke the tiger and try to waste more time redoing that stuff again for the fourth or fifth time.
Quote from: Nefaro on March 15, 2018, 11:09:35 PM
However, a few games will register a constant directional input from one, or more, of my flight sim controllers and make a cursor or selection bar constantly go in one direction.
For example, when I played the Numenera RPG, the selection highlight bar would be constantly scrolling up in every menu. Obviously it was meant to support an console-style controller and would misread my HOTAS setup as that (and constantly giving input). Was annoying as hell.
I have exactly this issue (and the can't-unplug-controller one). In fact I've stopped buying games which have full controller support as a feature. I only noticed it as an issue when I upgraded to a Gigabyte GA-Z77-DS3H mobo - but that could just be a coincidence.
I have the same issue as well but with Elite and War Thunder. They'll remember my key mapping if I plug the devices into the same USB ports I removed them from but if I get them wrong, it's remap time. As my Desktop case is jammed back in a corner under the desk with a tangle of wires, it's a hassle to crawl around and fiddle with them. I've got more games on my PC than I'll ever get around to playing. Not going to buy one that I know I won't touch if I've got to crawl around on the floor to play (I save that for miniatures).
I tried a few USB hubs. Got voltage warnings both times and my TrackIR got fried so I won't be doing that again.
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on March 16, 2018, 12:03:57 PM
I tried a few USB hubs. Got voltage warnings both times and my TrackIR got fried so I won't be doing that again.
Oh noes!
I would've warned you against that, had I known you were going to try plugging that stuff into a USB hub. :hide:
I know not of these USB and flight yoke problems, having sworn off them since my days of obsessing over NASCAR 2003, but the game's use of the (in-game graphic) flight yoke to control movement I could really do without...
Now I'm suddenly getting this weird free-tour-of-the-map-without-user-input thing.
I blame Putin and his winged-monkeys for this nefarious interfering with my game.
I should have bought through Steam. Could have received a refund
I considered doing just that, but decided to stick with it. I found it was my rudder pedals that caused the cursor drift, so unplugging them is a temporary solution. There are, however, many other things about the game that irk me. But I aim to push on and conquer the beast.
Quote from: IronX on March 16, 2018, 06:17:56 PM
I considered doing just that, but decided to stick with it. I found it was my rudder pedals that caused the cursor drift, so unplugging them is a temporary solution. There are, however, many other things about the game that irk me. But I aim to push on and conquer the beast.
I am thoroughly confused as to what game is actually being discussed in this thread now...
Quote from: mirth on March 16, 2018, 11:28:15 AM
It's not even clear that a skirmish mode will be added:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/715800/discussions/0/2949168661149113781/ (http://steamcommunity.com/app/715800/discussions/0/2949168661149113781/)
QuoteSlitherine_Iain [developer] 6 hours ago
I think there's a misunderstanding on Skirmish mode. This isn't something that is planned. can you let me know where I said this as it must have been some mistake
Quoteemmanuel [has Check Your 6!] 5 hours ago
Originally posted by Slitherine_Iain:
I think there's a misunderstanding on Skirmish mode. This isn't something that is planned. can you let me know where I said this as it must have been some mistake.
Another dev said this here : http://steamcommunity.com/app/715800/discussions/0/1700542332319427385/
grey [développeur] Il y a 17 heures
Hi everyone :)
Dev here - we have the Skirmish mode in the devtest, but it still requires some improvements, so while we keep working on making it available for all of you, let us know what else we might improve in the game overall.
QuoteSlitherine_Iain [developer] 5 hours ago
Oh ok that's news to us....!
Quotegrey [developer] 4 hours ago
Yeah, I should probably explain - we have a skirmish mode in devtest, but it's not complete - as mentioned above it requires some real improvements and it's not yet approved to be released. Sorry if my comment misled you.
So the publisher doesn't even know that a skirmish mode is being worked on by the devs? :idiot2:
That was me, all over that thread. I got conflicting information from Grey, the developer, and Iain, from Slitherine.
Apparently, the skirmish mode is a thing, but under continuing development, or is a thing, completed, but yet to be implemented, or is NOT a thing, but under consideration, or IS a thing, but Slitherine doesn't know anything about it. Clear?
Not to me either. Without some sort of skirmish mode, or dynamic campaign, then all we get are 17 scripted missions. Once these are "solved", then it's on to a different game. Not thanks...I'll wait.
Quote from: Zulu1966 on March 16, 2018, 08:57:25 PM
Quote from: IronX on March 16, 2018, 06:17:56 PM
I considered doing just that, but decided to stick with it. I found it was my rudder pedals that caused the cursor drift, so unplugging them is a temporary solution. There are, however, many other things about the game that irk me. But I aim to push on and conquer the beast.
I am thoroughly confused as to what game is actually being discussed in this thread now...
I can understand your confusion. It is actually Check Your 6! that we're talking about. The issue is that other input devices, such as those used for games like flight sims, conflict with it. I've never had this happen before and wouldn't have worked it out if it wasn't for the above cryptic discussion.
This game got me to want to replay Talonsoft's: Spitfire/Battle of Britain and 12 O'Clock High. I have Windows 10 and I can't even get these games to install. Anyone know how?
Have you tried right-clicking on the shortcut, Properties> Compatibility> Run this program compatible for [select OS]?
IronX: Thanks but no joy. Tried what you suggested and I can't even load the CD.
That's too bad. I guess the only way to run them would be on a machine with the original OS installed, which is pretty much a non-starter for most.
The wargaming community could do with a good WWII strategic air game that's designed for today's computers.
Quote from: Johnnie on March 17, 2018, 07:58:35 PM
IronX: Thanks but no joy. Tried what you suggested and I can't even load the CD.
Both games were reissued under 1 title by matrix and Eagle Day Bombing the Reich. Runs fine for me on Win 10. No CD, just Matrix standard key. Of course it would suck to have to buy them again...except that they are somewhat improved...bugs, data errors fixed etc.
CY6 reminds me more of Avalon Hill/Big Time Software's Achtung Spitfire (http://www.mobygames.com/game/achtung-spitfire) and Over the Reich (http://www.mobygames.com/game/over-the-reich) than it does the Talonsoft games.
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mobygames.com%2Fgame%2Fwindows%2Fachtung-spitfire%2Fscreenshots%2FgameShotId%2C22730%2F&hash=dfebecb20a7522c9f20c8bde9c09c5d20367e6d4)
Quote from: Johnnie on March 17, 2018, 04:57:12 PM
This game got me to want to replay Talonsoft's: Spitfire/Battle of Britain and 12 O'Clock High. I have Windows 10 and I can't even get these games to install. Anyone know how?
Looks like it's possible (http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4346575) but you would need to somehow install it first. A virtual machine might work.
Staggerwing: Those are the games I am talking about (Achtung Spitfire and 12 Oclock High) not the two games Matrix re-issued a while ago.
These games, AS and 12 Oclock, won't run from the disks I have, on Windows 10. Old Games sells the two games as downloads. The Old Games download version of 12 Oclock High runs fine with no tinkering. I can't get AS to run at all or even install.
So is CY6 worth the money to invest in? Seems like it's kinda pricey for 7 missions, no skirmish mode or MP yet.
Quote from: Richie61 on March 18, 2018, 07:26:26 PM
So is CY6 worth the money to invest in? Seems like it's kinda pricey for 7 missions, no skirmish mode or MP yet.
after reading through the posts
maybe we should rename the thread to: The Lordz Games Studio strikes
a licence deal on Check Your 6!
...if someone get it in this state and for the full price ^-^
Quote from: MikeGER on March 19, 2018, 01:49:36 AM
Quote from: Richie61 on March 18, 2018, 07:26:26 PM
So is CY6 worth the money to invest in? Seems like it's kinda pricey for 7 missions, no skirmish mode or MP yet.
after reading through the posts
maybe we should rename the thread to: The Lordz Games Studio strikes a licence deal on Check Your 6!
...if someone get it in this state and for the full price ^-^
Well. Price is relative to the individual I guess. It's 20 pounds and I have spent considerably more on a few beers on a night out so horses for courses.
It is a nicely put together game bit I find the lack of skirmish or scenario creator puzzling. It's an air game so it's basically choose your planes and of you go so as compared to say a land based game it should be easy to put together. I can only suggest it is DLC that they have in mind but think that should be more aimed at new campaigns and planes. So yes I think it's worth it but may have a different view on things.
I must say though that I thought the control scheme in that Sid Meier mobile game was better and clearer.
In its current state, I think the $30 ask is a bit high.
The graphics are good but not great, the sound design is surprisingly poor, and, as I've said, that yoke interface I can do without.
Clean at least some of this up and get a full scenario editor with a quick-skirmish cherry-pick system and I think the price is dead on.
And, of course, +2 for live MP! It's easy, intuitive, and a fair amount of fun.
Quote from: Cyrano on March 19, 2018, 04:22:43 PM
In its current state, I think the $30 ask is a bit high.
The graphics are good but not great, the sound design is surprisingly poor, and, as I've said, that yoke interface I can do without.
Clean at least some of this up and get a full scenario editor with a quick-skirmish cherry-pick system and I think the price is dead on.
And, of course, +2 for live MP! It's easy, intuitive, and a fair amount of fun.
+1
Thanks guys. Kinda what I've been reading the reviews on-line. I excepted a lot more from this title. Maybe updates and added content with come out soon.
I wanted so much to like this game. But: the interface is klunky, it is difficult to smoothly change altitude or speed; the joystick is silly; once the action starts, after allocating who is firing at whom, it is impossible to determine which plane is firing at which; it is hard to determine which side is which, at any distance, all the planes appear to be the same color which also blends into the ground colors (leading, for me in any case, to eye strain each time I try to play); the manual and the "game rules" are inadequate and incomplete; and, last but not least, play is work and very mechanical, and not in any way immersive (much inferior, in this respect, to Talon Soft's old Achtung Spitfire, if only I could get that to play on windows 10.)
I think I will put it aside until and unless it is substantially modified. I think this my first Slitherene clunker.
Quote from: Johnnie on March 20, 2018, 10:10:27 PM
....... I think this my first Slitherene clunker.
LOL I have plenty of them!!!! IMHO among the Slitherine/Matrix clunkers I own this is one of the better games...so it is one of the best of the worst...that is something...:)
Update with Skirmish mode....
Quotev1.1.0 Public Beta is available - with Skirmish mode added!
Hi Everyone,
Slightly later than anticipated, but here is the public beta version of the 1.1.0 update.
The most important change is the addition of a Skirmish mode. You can find it in the main menu, and it will let you setup a single player / hotseat game freely. You will see it has plenty of parameters to tweak in relation to the map, the planes, and optional rules.
We hope it is quite straightforward to use, but do let us know if you have any questions.
To join the open beta, right-click Check Your 6 in your Steam Library, choose Properties, and then the Beta tab.
Here, in the drop-down menu you should find "open-beta" select it. Steam will update your game, and you will be ready to go. To opt out, unselect this version.
Here is the list of changes:
Major changes and fixes
• Added Skirmish
• Added aircraft-type- and gun-type-specific sounds
• Fixed an issue when Campaign progress was reset due to multiplayer game overwriting scenario completion status
Minor changes and fixes
• Fixed Multiplayer issues: wrong information when the wrong password was entered; wrong information tooltip when selecting side of conflict;
• Fixed highlighting of buttons
• Fixed some spelling errors
• Fixed issue with displaying Anti-Aircraft units in Skirmish setup
• Fixed discrepancy in animation and sound of Anti-Aircraft units
• Aircraft indicators (aka ghosts) improved
Quote from: Staggerwing on March 18, 2018, 05:23:45 PM
CY6 reminds me more of Avalon Hill/Big Time Software's Achtung Spitfire (http://www.mobygames.com/game/achtung-spitfire) and Over the Reich (http://www.mobygames.com/game/over-the-reich) than it does the Talonsoft games.
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mobygames.com%2Fgame%2Fwindows%2Fachtung-spitfire%2Fscreenshots%2FgameShotId%2C22730%2F&hash=dfebecb20a7522c9f20c8bde9c09c5d20367e6d4)
Those two games were a league of their own. I'd just love to see them updated for present day PC's. IMHO, they are the standard to which tactical air war games are measured.
For table top, CY6 is the gold standard for tactical air combat. It's unfortunate that the PC version doesn't seem to measure up.
Quote from: mirth on May 08, 2018, 05:42:39 PM
For table top, CY6 is the gold standard for tactical air combat. It's unfortunate that the PC version doesn't seem to measure up.
If you are talking about WW2 era I agree, but for modern air combat I think Birds of Prey is the better game.
Regardless, I am also dissapointed with CY6 digital. Its lifeless and mechanical rather than fun and pretty to look at. 😒
Quote from: Yskonyn on May 09, 2018, 12:51:15 AM
Quote from: mirth on May 08, 2018, 05:42:39 PM
For table top, CY6 is the gold standard for tactical air combat. It's unfortunate that the PC version doesn't seem to measure up.
If you are talking about WW2 era I agree, but for modern air combat I think Birds of Prey is the better game.
Regardless, I am also dissapointed with CY6 digital. Its lifeless and mechanical rather than fun and pretty to look at. 😒
What in your opinion does CY6 need to have in order to reach that sweet spot that is the gold standard?
Quote from: Boggit on May 09, 2018, 05:02:17 AM
Quote from: Yskonyn on May 09, 2018, 12:51:15 AM
Quote from: mirth on May 08, 2018, 05:42:39 PM
For table top, CY6 is the gold standard for tactical air combat. It's unfortunate that the PC version doesn't seem to measure up.
If you are talking about WW2 era I agree, but for modern air combat I think Birds of Prey is the better game.
Regardless, I am also dissapointed with CY6 digital. Its lifeless and mechanical rather than fun and pretty to look at. 😒
What in your opinion does CY6 need to have in order to reach that sweet spot that is the gold standard?
We're talking about modern era now, aren't we?
The segmentation into simple speed and altitude modifier numbers instead of much more detailed system of BoP (where speed relates to altitude and engine power) is one thing.
Also, load G-load mechanics are abstracted too much imo.
In short; BoP is more an air combat simulation while CY6 Modern is more a game, if you will.
I realise that for the less hardcore individual CY6 might very well be the gold standard.
I found BoP far too complex, particularly if it is being run as a convention game. CY6 strikes a balance between complexity and playability. I have no doubt BoP is more realistic, but it isn't as much fun too play imo.
It 'looks' complex indeed, but once you have run through the sequence of play a few times its a remarkable efficient and speedy game.
I don't want to judge, but I believe your remark might be just because of lack of experience?
Anyway, first appearances count as well I guess. :)
YMMV
Quote from: mirth on May 08, 2018, 05:42:39 PM
For table top, CY6 is the gold standard for tactical air combat. It's unfortunate that the PC version doesn't seem to measure up.
I still haven't picked up the PC version.
I could deal with the dark & low tablet-level graphics, a con from my first peek, but the setting is also very low on my air combat interest list. In whole of 20th century air combat, the Battle Of Britain is on my low end of interest. Combined with a possible lack of aircraft & mission variation, along with no mission/campaign generation(?), I'm inclined to wait until more content is added. Unfortunately.
Quote from: Nefaro on May 11, 2018, 01:56:16 AM
Quote from: mirth on May 08, 2018, 05:42:39 PM
For table top, CY6 is the gold standard for tactical air combat. It's unfortunate that the PC version doesn't seem to measure up.
I still haven't picked up the PC version.
I could deal with the dark & low tablet-level graphics, a con from my first peek, but the setting is also very low on my air combat interest list. In whole of 20th century air combat, the Battle Of Britain is on my low end of interest. Combined with a possible lack of aircraft & mission variation, along with no mission/campaign generation(?), I'm inclined to wait until more content is added. Unfortunately.
lol. I'm glad Dowding didn't take that view.
Can you imagine him being asked what he was going to do to protect the UK from imminent and absolute invasion and him sitting back in his chair, lighting up and saying "It doesn't really interest me...all we've got are Spitfires, Hurricanes and a couple of other obsolete pieces of crap and we don't even have enough. Nah...I'm going to wait for something more interesting to come up." :DD
Quote from: JudgeDredd on May 11, 2018, 02:05:32 AM
Quote from: Nefaro on May 11, 2018, 01:56:16 AM
Quote from: mirth on May 08, 2018, 05:42:39 PM
For table top, CY6 is the gold standard for tactical air combat. It's unfortunate that the PC version doesn't seem to measure up.
I still haven't picked up the PC version.
I could deal with the dark & low tablet-level graphics, a con from my first peek, but the setting is also very low on my air combat interest list. In whole of 20th century air combat, the Battle Of Britain is on my low end of interest. Combined with a possible lack of aircraft & mission variation, along with no mission/campaign generation(?), I'm inclined to wait until more content is added. Unfortunately.
lol. I'm glad Dowding didn't take that view.
Can you imagine him being asked what he was going to do to protect the UK from imminent and absolute invasion and him sitting back in his chair, lighting up and saying "It doesn't really interest me...all we've got are Spitfires, Hurricanes and a couple of other obsolete pieces of crap and we don't even have enough. Nah...I'm going to wait for something more interesting to come up." :DD
"Fetch the oracle!"
;D
Seriously though, what's not interesting about the Battle of Britain? Certainly from a German perspective. You've got various targets to go for, punching holes in radar, starving the UK, protecting your bombers with huge formations of Me109s...huge bomber forces. All very interesting too.
From a UK perspective, it's kind of like the Russians in Operation Barbarossa...stifling the wave. So it's more about managing resources than going and "giving Jerry a bloody good thrashing" (said in my best possible English accent)
I should mention I'm not talking about this game...just about the BoB in general being a bit meh.
Quote from: JudgeDredd on May 11, 2018, 02:48:44 AM
Seriously though, what's not interesting about the Battle of Britain? Certainly from a German perspective. You've got various targets to go for, punching holes in radar, starving the UK, protecting your bombers with huge formations of Me109s...huge bomber forces. All very interesting too.
From a UK perspective, it's kind of like the Russians in Operation Barbarossa...stifling the wave. So it's more about managing resources than going and "giving Jerry a bloody good thrashing" (said in my best possible English accent)
I should mention I'm not talking about this game...just about the BoB in general being a bit meh.
From a gaming point of view? Just not as interested in the early war aircraft. In the case of WW2, that encompasses the fall of France and BoB. Meh.
I'm the same way for early & late WW1 aircraft too. Probably more so since the early crates were practically bicycles with wings. :))
Quote from: Nefaro on May 12, 2018, 10:50:41 AM
Probably more so since the early crates were practically bicycles with wings.
Some of us love the early crates precisely because they were bicycles with wings.
Quote from: Philippe on May 12, 2018, 11:44:47 PM
Quote from: Nefaro on May 12, 2018, 10:50:41 AM
Probably more so since the early crates were practically bicycles with wings.
Some of us love the early crates precisely because they were bicycles with wings.
Meh. Give me a D.III or a Camel any day. :cowboy:
Better yet, skip all this pre-1960's BS and give me the Jet stuff. <:-)
God no. Cold wars jets are so boring.
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on May 14, 2018, 02:59:25 AM
God no. Cold wars jets are so boring.
* Thumbs down + fart sound *
Any status on this game? The Skirmish mode was supposedly in Beta..........
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