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besilarius

Spoke to a relative who came over from Ireland in the late 60s.
He compared this to the IRA rage against the british in Ulster.  If people feel they are being systematically treated unfairly, the rage builds until it explodes.  Some always take the anger to violence.
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jomni

This will just encourage jittery and trigger happy cops.

JasonPratt

Sadly believable -- surprised it hasn't happened already.  :'(

Quote from: jomni on July 08, 2016, 07:24:33 AMThis will just encourage jittery and trigger happy cops.

Yep. And encourage copycats.
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Prays to those officers and their families.

This follows two police shootings of two black men in two different states over the last couple of days.

One talking head made the comment this morning that they don't think this was spur of moment reaction, but that those that did this had been preparing for awhile, and used the two shootings by police earlier as a catalyst for them to act.  We'll see if that holds true.
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Quote from: besilarius on July 08, 2016, 06:44:12 AM
Spoke to a relative who came over from Ireland in the late 60s.
He compared this to the IRA rage against the british in Ulster.  If people feel they are being systematically treated unfairly, the rage builds until it explodes.  Some always take the anger to violence.
Speaking as someone who as a child grew up in Northern Ireland, I'll say that this justified comment, particularly with respect to the Northern Irish weighted voting regime, and other civil rights granted to Protestants, but not Catholics. Of course in the late 60's this was addressed by reforms to make the system fair, but by then the damage was done with both sides left feeling aggrieved.

Even today there are strong views on the matter, on both sides (I have family from both sides of the argument) even though things have moved on beyond recognition. My view is at least both sides are talking together, even if it is not always a happy marriage. Perhaps over time the wounds will heal. I hope so. :)

For those with any interest in it, this isn't a bad potted history of it...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/recent/troubles/the_troubles_article_01.shtml
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The most shocking fact about war is that its victims and its instruments are individual human beings, and that these individual beings are condemned by the monstrous conventions of politics to murder or be murdered in quarrels not their own. Aldous Huxley

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It's kind of silly to investigate whether or not a Clinton is lying. That's sort of like investigating why the sky is blue. Banzai_Cat

Sir Slash

Right now the Political Elite are twisting themselves into pretzel shapes to blame this on guns. And next the radical left will try to justify this cowardice by saying the perps were driven to this violence not by those who have been railing against the police, but by the evil of 'White Privledge'. Meanwhile the what, 62 young black men shot in Chicago last weekend by other young black men don't even deserve a mention.
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Quote from: Sir Slash on July 08, 2016, 10:10:00 AM
Right now the Political Elite are twisting themselves into pretzel shapes to blame this on guns. And next the radical left will try to justify this cowardice by saying the perps were driven to this violence not by those who have been railing against the police, but by the evil of 'White Privledge'. Meanwhile the what, 62 young black men shot in Chicago last weekend by other young black men don't even deserve a mention.


QFT.

News media and the victimhood establishment will attempt their best to vocally twist this to their advantage.  It's what they always try to do.

In the meantime, those who still have bullshit detectors will end up smelling the droves of shit they'll be heaping on us for months to come.

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Government is not the solution to our problem—government is the problem.   Ronald Reagan
The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.   Thomas Jefferson
During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.   George Orwell  The truth is quiet...It's the lies that are loud.   Jesus Revolution
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bayonetbrant

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info about the shooter
http://heavy.com/news/2016/07/micah-xavier-x-johnson-dallas-police-shooting-sniper-gunman-shooter-suspect-name-identified-photos-facebook-video/

Interesting point in the article.

the police originally mis-identified a guy as a "person of interest"
http://heavy.com/news/2016/07/dallas-police-shooting-suspect-photo-black-man-gunman-sniper-shooter-picture-twitter-name/

He was exercising his right to open carry during the march.
As soon as the shooting started, he handed over his weapon to law enforcement so he wouldn't be suspected or implicated. 
And it was caught on video, showing how law-abiding citizens can react in a positive way in a crisis.
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