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Title: Precipice: a Turn-based Cold War Strategy Game
Post by: steve58 on August 07, 2019, 02:29:09 PM
For $12, might be interesting, if you can get past the critter-type leaders. 

https://store.steampowered.com/app/951670/Precipice/

Title: Re: Precipice: a Turn-based Cold War Strategy Game
Post by: Grim.Reaper on August 07, 2019, 04:30:10 PM
i always wonder what research results in putting animals or cartoons into serious type games....how does that happen?

that alone makes me not interested.....
Title: Re: Precipice: a Turn-based Cold War Strategy Game
Post by: Huw the Poo on August 07, 2019, 04:48:45 PM
Yeah, it's weird how off-putting that is.  Nevertheless, I think I'd play this game.  I'll add it to my ever-expanding wishlist, for what it's worth...
Title: Re: Precipice: a Turn-based Cold War Strategy Game
Post by: Staggerwing on August 07, 2019, 09:02:05 PM
^^^ Narrator, playing as the US: "... our food is being imported exclusively from Israel and Australia..."

Huh, say what now?  ???
Title: Re: Precipice: a Turn-based Cold War Strategy Game
Post by: The_Admiral on August 08, 2019, 01:09:38 AM
Oh well, at least it has its own style - but I understand it as a clever way not to bother with national politics and successive administrations. Balance of Power doesn't do that either, but at least in here they don't have to put the actual face of Brejnev, Reagan or Khadafi. These are kind of cute.

Still not sure if it's my cup of tea though, these West vs East political games are more akin to clever boardgames than actual political simulations. In terms of Cold-War era political simulators, not sure anything comes close to the (much underrated) Crisis in Kremlin and Ostalgie series  :notworthy:
I'd like to tell you my opinion about the latest one, Mao's legacy, but sadly I won't ever be allowed to install it on my China-locked Steam it seems  :-\
Title: Re: Precipice: a Turn-based Cold War Strategy Game
Post by: Huw the Poo on August 08, 2019, 07:19:25 AM
Quote from: The_Admiral on August 08, 2019, 01:09:38 AM
In terms of Cold-War era political simulators, not sure anything comes close to the (much underrated) Crisis in Kremlin and Ostalgie series

Are they good then?  I bought Crisis in the Kremlin but when I loaded it the presentation was so...bizarre...I honestly didn't know whether I'd fallen for some weird joke!
Title: Re: Precipice: a Turn-based Cold War Strategy Game
Post by: mbar on August 08, 2019, 07:45:34 AM
I've bought Precipice and Twilight Struggle. I've already returned Twilight Struggle. I was playing the tutorial and kept thinking 'I'd never play this again' even though it is highly recommended. I plan on buying Terminal Conflict at some point but I'm spending money on other games right now.
Title: Re: Precipice: a Turn-based Cold War Strategy Game
Post by: JasonPratt on August 08, 2019, 08:24:48 AM
TwiStrug isn't really a political game, so much as an area-control card game with strong geopolitical flavor.
Title: Re: Precipice: a Turn-based Cold War Strategy Game
Post by: The_Admiral on August 08, 2019, 09:39:26 AM
Quote from: Huw the Poo on August 08, 2019, 07:19:25 AM
Quote from: The_Admiral on August 08, 2019, 01:09:38 AM
In terms of Cold-War era political simulators, not sure anything comes close to the (much underrated) Crisis in Kremlin and Ostalgie series

Are they good then?  I bought Crisis in the Kremlin but when I loaded it the presentation was so...bizarre...I honestly didn't know whether I'd fallen for some weird joke!

Ah yeah right, I forgot to mention that the GUI is... How to say... Very soviet-inspired? ^^
Terribly crude indeed. And the translation is terrible, and makes it all the more painful to play, I agree with that too.

They are really hard to get into for all the reasons, but they have a flavor that no other product can equal on that topic. But it's true the first time you run them you wonder if you didn't just get scammed or something. The design is terribly cheap, especially Crisis, as the first one of the series, but it gets better. Besides, Crisis just got a Chernobyl update. In the end we end up with a better Kremlin simulator than any white house simulator before this one (even Shadow President somewhat pales in comparison). The interface is a pain, but the reward is real. I graduated in Political Sciences, obviously if I wasn't making a carrier game, I think I'd be making a western democracy knockoff (that is, unlike Democracy, rather anchored in history with some actual national flavor).

I mean, just take a look at Ostalgie's second trailer that shows a few mechanics, and tell me how one can get more specific in its flavor than that!  :notworthy:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/774091/Ostalgie_The_Berlin_Wall/
Title: Re: Precipice: a Turn-based Cold War Strategy Game
Post by: Tripoli on August 08, 2019, 12:02:58 PM
Quote from: The_Admiral on August 08, 2019, 09:39:26 AM
Quote from: Huw the Poo on August 08, 2019, 07:19:25 AM
Quote from: The_Admiral on August 08, 2019, 01:09:38 AM
In terms of Cold-War era political simulators, not sure anything comes close to the (much underrated) Crisis in Kremlin and Ostalgie series

Are they good then?  I bought Crisis in the Kremlin but when I loaded it the presentation was so...bizarre...I honestly didn't know whether I'd fallen for some weird joke!

...There are really hard to get into for all the reasons, but they have a flavor that no other product can equal on that topic. But it's true the first time you run them you wonder if you didn't just get scammed or something. The design is terribly cheap, especially Crisis, as the first one of the series, but it gets better. Besides, Crisis just got a Chernobyl update. In the end we end up with a better Kremlin simulator than any white house simulator before this one (even Shadow President somewhat pales in comparison). The interface is a pain, but the reward is real. I graduated in Political Sciences, obviously if I wasn't making a carrier game, I think I'd be making a western democracy knockoff (that is, unlike Democracy, rather anchored in history with some actual national flavor).

I mean, just take a look at Ostalgie's second trailer that shows a few mechanics, and tell me how one can get more specific in its flavor than that!  :notworthy:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/774091/Ostalgie_The_Berlin_Wall/

You talked me into buying the whole Crisis series.   Possibly I'll do a AAR, if people are interested. I have tried to find a good political simulator for decades.  I started with "Balance of Power" back in 1985, but haven't found a decent political simulator in all that time.  I wasn't impressed with Shadow President, but it was a fairly good effort for the time and the available technology. I'm interested to see how GMT's upcoming boardgame "Mr. President" (https://www.gmtgames.com/p-555-mr-president-the-american-presidency-2001-2020.aspx) handles this topic.
Title: Re: Precipice: a Turn-based Cold War Strategy Game
Post by: The_Admiral on August 08, 2019, 12:38:57 PM
Oh well, I hope it will not come back and bite me in the *ss  >:D

Besides, sorry everybody for the terrible grammar, I was just waking up from my afternoon nap  :hide:
Title: Re: Precipice: a Turn-based Cold War Strategy Game
Post by: Huw the Poo on August 08, 2019, 01:14:25 PM
Looks like Pratt just bought them all too.  :)
Title: Re: Precipice: a Turn-based Cold War Strategy Game
Post by: mikeck on August 08, 2019, 01:20:25 PM
I'm sorry, but I want some degree of realism. They lost me on "The US has no food and is importing it from Australia and Israel. Huh?
Title: Re: Precipice: a Turn-based Cold War Strategy Game
Post by: JasonPratt on August 09, 2019, 08:25:59 AM
Quote from: Huw the Poo on August 08, 2019, 01:14:25 PM
Looks like Pratt just bought them all too.  :)

I already had Crisis in the Krem (which was updating, perhaps not coincidentally, when I ran into The Admiral's discussion downpage).

I didn't have the others yet. Also, I didn't pick up the China one yet, on the basis that heck I haven't even played CrisKrem yet!
Title: Re: Precipice: a Turn-based Cold War Strategy Game
Post by: steve58 on December 30, 2020, 11:09:34 AM
FYI:  You can pick up Precipice for $1 over at Fanatical (https://www.fanatical.com/en/pick-and-mix/build-your-own-holiday-bundle).  Its part of a Build your own Bundle pack.  1 for $1, 5 for $3, etc
Title: Re: Precipice: a Turn-based Cold War Strategy Game
Post by: nelmsm on December 30, 2020, 11:14:04 AM
Quote from: Staggerwing on August 07, 2019, 09:02:05 PM
^^^ Narrator, playing as the US: "... our food is being imported exclusively from Israel and Australia..."

Huh, say what now?  ???

Yep, that was all I needed to hear on this one before moving on.
Title: Re: Precipice: a Turn-based Cold War Strategy Game
Post by: W8taminute on December 30, 2020, 11:45:46 AM
The narrator of the video is female with a sweet sounding voice to entice the male audience.  She's reading from a script because she does not sound like a natural video gamer.  I feel like I'm being lectured to on how to play strategy games and I don't appreciate that. 

The game looks intriguing but because they put such phony effort into seducing the would be buyer I say no to this one.