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Title: Examina...medieval sword combat
Post by: mikeck on May 17, 2017, 12:58:31 PM
Anyone playing this? I didn't know about it. It's a "prequel" to a game called "Sui Generis". In and of itself, it's basically a dungeon crawl, but what is unique is the combat. It's mostly 1 v1 but it's all physics based. Swing a heavy axe and it pulls your body around. Strike the enemies shield and it knocks him back. Better still is that you have to move your body properly and the various mouse movements direct your swing. So you need to step back and one way if you are swinging the other or your shoulders will turn exposing your back. It's very intricate and the smoothness and fluidity of it is amazing. The video below is just arena practice combat (and just brutal kills at that) but shows what I mean. Watch a few so you can at least see one of the slow motion kills. The characters hair sways with movement and everything.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VLYj9JfK4-Y

Edit: fight at 3:00 shows what happens when you over swing
Title: Re: Examina...medieval sword combat
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 17, 2017, 01:17:52 PM
Nice find...never heard of it and don't already own it. Both very rare circumstances.
Title: Re: Examina...medieval sword combat
Post by: Gusington on May 17, 2017, 01:20:36 PM
I've had it in my Steam cart for a while. The swordplay and other animations are pretty amazing. I had planned on getting it once it became a little more fleshed out.
Title: Re: Examina...medieval sword combat
Post by: mikeck on May 17, 2017, 02:16:28 PM
There is a single player campaign involving multiple dungeon levels.

Check this out...THIS is how a sword fight in plate male should look and sound like

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RJhJtE5CzFw

I'm trying to learn to fight but it's tough. Have to get your footwork to match the swing type. I keep stepping into the bad guy for a thrust only to have him sidestep, know my polearm to the ground and then uppercut me. That or I swing, miss and catch a counter thrust to the grill. Hell, ide pay for this game just for the arena
Title: Re: Examina...medieval sword combat
Post by: Gusington on May 17, 2017, 02:17:47 PM
'Plate mail' - 'plate male' is not something you want.
Title: Re: Examina...medieval sword combat
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 17, 2017, 02:25:58 PM
Can you target specific points on the body? If you strike someone in the arm or leg, does it affect them as you would expect? Are there decapitations, amputations, location specific injuries, etc.?
Title: Re: Examina...medieval sword combat
Post by: mirth on May 17, 2017, 02:31:03 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 17, 2017, 02:25:58 PM
Can you target specific points on the body? If you strike someone in the arm or leg, does it affect them as you would expect? Are there decapitations, amputations, location specific injuries, etc.?

You and your questions. As if you aren't going to buy it.
Title: Re: Examina...medieval sword combat
Post by: Gusington on May 17, 2017, 02:32:29 PM
JH is the ultimate plate male.
Title: Re: Examina...medieval sword combat
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 17, 2017, 02:46:55 PM
Quote from: mirth on May 17, 2017, 02:31:03 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 17, 2017, 02:25:58 PM
Can you target specific points on the body? If you strike someone in the arm or leg, does it affect them as you would expect? Are there decapitations, amputations, location specific injuries, etc.?

You and your questions. As if you aren't going to buy it.

You know me better than I know myself.
Title: Re: Examina...medieval sword combat
Post by: mikeck on May 17, 2017, 03:41:38 PM
Quote from: Gusington on May 17, 2017, 02:17:47 PM
'Plate mail' - 'plate male' is not something you want.

Text talk spells as it wills
Title: Re: Examina...medieval sword combat
Post by: mirth on May 17, 2017, 03:43:20 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 17, 2017, 02:46:55 PM
Quote from: mirth on May 17, 2017, 02:31:03 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 17, 2017, 02:25:58 PM
Can you target specific points on the body? If you strike someone in the arm or leg, does it affect them as you would expect? Are there decapitations, amputations, location specific injuries, etc.?

You and your questions. As if you aren't going to buy it.

You know me better than I know myself.

Looking forward to your impressions of it :P
Title: Re: Examina...medieval sword combat
Post by: bbmike on May 17, 2017, 03:58:47 PM
Can't wait to see a lightsaber mod.  :D
Title: Re: Examina...medieval sword combat
Post by: mikeck on May 17, 2017, 04:10:59 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 17, 2017, 02:25:58 PM
Can you target specific points on the body? If you strike someone in the arm or leg, does it affect them as you would expect? Are there decapitations, amputations, location specific injuries, etc.?

I haven't seen amputations or decapitations but the physics is there.  meaning if you hit someone in the right arm they drop that arm and lean over. In one video and ogre hits a guy in his legs and it flips them up in the air and he Lands on his back. It's all fairly realistic physics-based.  Hit someone hard in the back and they stumble forward.

I don't think you can target specific body parts per say. You can swing down word or thrust straightforward or swing laterally which would make you more likely to hit the head where is a downward swing might hit the abdomen. That type of thing. But you can't specifically aimed for the right leg or something.    Now what you can do is wait for him to swing move to the right and then swing to the left in a downward angle at which point your level to hit his upper right leg. It's all movement of your character and timing of swings. It's not an ideal system but it's the best one I've seen really


Title: Re: Examina...medieval sword combat
Post by: jomni on May 17, 2017, 05:15:31 PM
Cool!  You can play as a fat lady.  You can't do that in many games these days.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q25IZy7ogJ0

Title: Re: Examina...medieval sword combat
Post by: bob48 on May 17, 2017, 05:21:39 PM
Non spring to mind.
Title: Re: Examina...medieval sword combat
Post by: mikeck on May 17, 2017, 07:16:23 PM
Yep. In fact The size and physique of your character matters. Taller guys have higher centers of gravity and tend to give into momentum. Skinny Guys lack the strength to swing big weapons but are more agile. Pretty cool
Title: Re: Examina...medieval sword combat
Post by: Sparhawk on May 17, 2017, 07:43:52 PM
Oh my goodness, have you seen the master ogre fight?
https://youtu.be/sM8QEW4MR90
Title: Re: Examina...medieval sword combat
Post by: Destraex on May 18, 2017, 05:01:39 AM
Be careful of this one. They seem to be doing two games at once.
I have a friend who got it. It seems to that one title is like a tech demo for the main game...
Title: Re: Examina...medieval sword combat
Post by: mikeck on May 18, 2017, 08:03:45 AM
Quote from: Destraex on May 18, 2017, 05:01:39 AM
Be careful of this one. They seem to be doing two games at once.
I have a friend who got it. It seems to that one title is like a tech demo for the main game...

Exanima is a full, but short game in and of itself. The MAIN game is called "Sui Generis" and is in development. The story line for Examina takes place 40 years before Sui Generis. I don't think the Devs are claiming anything other than this is a "demo"..but an extensive demo that they used to work out the mechnics. But I don't see why anyone should "stay away from it". It's a dungeon crawl...nothing more,   Nothing less, with cool combat, an arena, great graphics and sounds for $15

From the dev:
"How is the full version planned to differ from the Early Access version?
"While Exanima already feels like a complete game there are many defining features yet to be added and the current content represents an introductory stage to a larger, more open and varied setting. Exanima itself is a prelude to our even larger open world game Sui Generis, most features will make an appearance in both games bringing the scope of Exanima far beyond what it may appear to be now."
Title: Re: Examina...medieval sword combat
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 18, 2017, 08:23:14 AM
Is there a video tutorial anyplace? I really suck at this and for some reason I am struggling with the brief explanation in the manual. When I take an opponent down, its usually through luck.
Title: Re: Examina...medieval sword combat
Post by: mikeck on May 18, 2017, 08:30:22 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 18, 2017, 08:23:14 AM
Is there a video tutorial anyplace? I really suck at this and for some reason I am struggling with the brief explanation in the manual. When I take an opponent down, its usually through luck.

There is but I didn't think it was very effective. If you look on steam forums there's a couple guides to help out a little bit but nothing fancy. It's a pretty bare-bones game which is why it's $15 so I don't think there's a lot of supporting documentation

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=437266682

It only took me a few hours of gameplay to get pretty decent at the combat you start to get a feel.

Title: Re: Examina...medieval sword combat
Post by: mikeck on May 18, 2017, 12:54:31 PM
Jarhead, found this for you:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Af8Y61LBVHA

Advanced combat guide
Title: Re: Examina...medieval sword combat
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 18, 2017, 01:43:27 PM
Sweet! Thanks, bruh.