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Title: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on July 03, 2017, 11:28:40 AM
Why wasn't this prioritized over the WWII crap? This has got to be the most eagerly anticipated module for DCS...at least for me. Looks fantastic!

https://www.facebook.com/eagle.dynamics/videos/10159004303245341/ (https://www.facebook.com/eagle.dynamics/videos/10159004303245341/)
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Nefaro on July 03, 2017, 12:27:27 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on July 03, 2017, 11:28:40 AM
Why wasn't this prioritized over the WWII crap? This has got to be the most eagerly anticipated module for DCS...at least for me. Looks fantastic!

https://www.facebook.com/eagle.dynamics/videos/10159004303245341/ (https://www.facebook.com/eagle.dynamics/videos/10159004303245341/)


Because a third party ran a big Kickstarter in order to add a bunch of WW2 stuff to DCS.  Then they completely dropped it, after being paid, and left DCS with the obligation to fulfill it. 

At least, that's what I gathered from their statement a few years ago.  They apologized for the debacle, and proceeded to devoting most of their time doing this WW2 distraction.  Leaving the other stuff to mostly languish, in the meantime, until the WW2 stuff was done.   :pullhair:


Meanwhile, some small 3rd party devs have been slowly putting out some new aircraft.  But they often have to wait to get some things implemented.  One of the notable examples being the commands & AI for a back-seater; such as a RIO for the upcoming F-14.  Along with individual aircraft updates.

Everything has slowed.  I suspect we would've had DCS v2 fully implemented awhile back, and more, if it not for that Kickstarter screw-up.


I keep seeing preview Alpha stuff for the upcoming F-18, AV-8 Harrier, and F-14.  Coming along slowly.  There are probably more in the works right now.  The Strait of Hormuz map is direly needed too, IMO, although I'm not sure if development has gone very far yet.  Since, IIRC, DCS does all the maps in-house & they're still focused on Normandy '44 map *sigh*.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on July 03, 2017, 12:53:45 PM
I haven't even bought the Viggen yet. I promised myself I wouldn't be buying anymore modules until they get releasing.

1.5 is still in beta and 2 is in godamn alpha!

I do hope I can hold out. The weak pound is helping me mind  O0

It does look sweet though
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Yskonyn on July 03, 2017, 01:01:59 PM
Nefaro has the right of it; the whole WW2 thing was something ED had to deal with themselves unexpectedly. I think they are to be commended for the sheer quality of the models they present in the Asset Pack and for getting this over the finish line at all.
Unfortunately lots of 'core' DCS stuff got delayed (even more) because of it, but now that the merger of DCS v1 and v2 is talked about more frequently, let's hope this is a good sign for things to come at a slightly increased pace.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: RyanE on July 03, 2017, 02:01:13 PM
I keep sitting on the sidelines and waiting for DCS to get sorted out.  For a while, it seemed like it would never happen.  I play the free part now and then jsut to remind myself.  But until I see some non-WW2 stuff getting released, I am staying out of it.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on July 04, 2017, 12:55:51 AM
Does anyone else subscribe to this Bunyap Sim's channel on Youtube?

He's done some superb videos for DCS modules but I haven't heard anything from him for 5 months? Anyone got any scoop? I hope he's ok.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Pete Dero on July 04, 2017, 02:52:45 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on July 04, 2017, 12:55:51 AM
Does anyone else subscribe to this Bunyap Sim's channel on Youtube?

He's done some superb videos for DCS modules but I haven't heard anything from him for 5 months? Anyone got any scoop? I hope he's ok.

Found this and hope it is correct : (posted a week or two ago on youtube)

Is bunyap still around?

Yep, he's working on a DLC campaign for the Spitfire in DCS, which is why he hasn't been making videos. The campaign is scheduled to be released very soon. It just entered testing.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on July 04, 2017, 02:54:40 AM
Cool - thanks.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Apocalypse 31 on July 05, 2017, 08:36:48 PM
I'm waiting on the 1.5 / 2.0 merge before I give up any more of my cash to Eagle Dynamics. I've had my eye on the F-5 for a while, but just don't want to pull the trigger until they get this game version weirdness sorted out. As for the F-18, I don't think we will see this bird being released in the next 1 to 1.5 years, maybe 2. Seems to be very WIP at the moment, despite all of the Hype Videos from Wags. That, and given the really poor development cycle that Eagle Dynamics has displayed in the past.

Sometimes I wonder which company has a slower development cycle. Eagle Dynamics (DCS) or eSim (Steel Beasts [still waiting on the terrain patch that was supposed to be released in December '16, then again in spring '17])

Edit: With all that being said, I will sit here patiently with my money, and I look forward to the FA-18, 1.5/20 merge, and the BO-105 (hellfires, whaaaat?)
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Nefaro on July 05, 2017, 09:08:18 PM
Looks like the official F-18 orientation vids are being finished right now:




Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on July 05, 2017, 09:22:21 PM
Quote from: Nefaro on July 05, 2017, 09:08:18 PM
Looks like the official F-18 orientation vids are being finished right now:




I swear I've seen this video somewhere...if only I could remember where.  :idiot2:
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on July 06, 2017, 12:48:08 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on July 05, 2017, 09:22:21 PM
Quote from: Nefaro on July 05, 2017, 09:08:18 PM
Looks like the official F-18 orientation vids are being finished right now:




I swear I've seen this video somewhere...if only I could remember where.  :idiot2:
lmao - mmmm - I think you speak the truth...but where indeed?  :2funny:

Mind you, not having Facebook, I'm thankful for the additional link because if you don't sign in to FB, it gives you a huge banner at the bottom to get you to sign up or sign in and it pops up in yer face every now and again.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Yskonyn on July 06, 2017, 04:22:16 AM
I hate Facebook with a passion. And I don't find it ok that some companies post the brunt of their news on there. Luckily ED has newsletters and Wagner has a YT channel. :)
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on July 06, 2017, 04:29:34 AM
Quote from: Apocalypse 31 on July 05, 2017, 08:36:48 PM
I'm waiting on the 1.5 / 2.0 merge before I give up any more of my cash...
I desperately want to buy more modules - but I take the same view.

I can't recall specifically what it was, but I had to reinstall 1.5 I think in order to get a campaign...I think it was an A-10 one though I'm not sure. I also had issues (though resolved now) where I literally ran out of my 8 keys for my Mig-21 module because of loading it in 1.5 and then loading it in 2.

Get the merge done, show your path and I'm back in the game.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Pete Dero on July 06, 2017, 04:33:00 AM
Quote from: Yskonyn on July 06, 2017, 04:22:16 AM
I hate Facebook with a passion. And I don't find it ok that some companies post the brunt of their news on there. Luckily ED has newsletters and Wagner has a YT channel. :)

DCS also posts everything here : https://www.youtube.com/c/eagledynamicstv/videos

Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on July 06, 2017, 04:49:08 AM
Quote from: Pete Dero on July 06, 2017, 04:33:00 AM
Quote from: Yskonyn on July 06, 2017, 04:22:16 AM
I hate Facebook with a passion. And I don't find it ok that some companies post the brunt of their news on there. Luckily ED has newsletters and Wagner has a YT channel. :)

DCS also posts everything here : https://www.youtube.com/c/eagledynamicstv/videos
oooh. Thanks and subscribed  O0
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Destraex on July 06, 2017, 05:06:39 AM
I for one am glad DCS are doing ww2. Best sim for all eras imho.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Yskonyn on July 06, 2017, 08:16:32 AM
Thanks Pete. :)
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on July 06, 2017, 08:52:25 AM
Quote from: Destraex on July 06, 2017, 05:06:39 AM
I for one am glad DCS are doing ww2. Best sim for all eras imho.

Key words.  :peace:
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Millipede on July 06, 2017, 10:15:09 AM
Quote from: Destraex on July 06, 2017, 05:06:39 AM
I for one am glad DCS are doing ww2. Best sim for all eras imho.
Well, let's bump that up to two. I'm also looking forward to the F/A-18... there's room for everyone in DCS.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Skoop on July 06, 2017, 11:34:17 AM
Quote from: Destraex on July 06, 2017, 05:06:39 AM
I for one am glad DCS are doing ww2. Best sim for all eras imho.
I don't know, I'd say il2 BOS is the best WWII sim out right now.  Going from il2 to Dcs wwii you can definatly tell the difference.  The flight models for DCS wwii seem so generic.  In il2 the flight models are Taylor made for prop aircraft, it seems more immersive.  The stall sequence in il2 is unique for each aircraft, in DCS it's seems cut and past....you pull too hard screen goes black.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Nefaro on July 07, 2017, 12:50:18 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on July 06, 2017, 08:52:25 AM
Quote from: Destraex on July 06, 2017, 05:06:39 AM
I for one am glad DCS are doing ww2. Best sim for all eras imho.

Key words.  :peace:


:))
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Skoop on July 07, 2017, 03:52:09 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on July 03, 2017, 12:53:45 PM
I haven't even bought the Viggen yet. I promised myself I wouldn't be buying anymore modules until they get releasing.

1.5 is still in beta and 2 is in godamn alpha!

I do hope I can hold out. The weak pound is helping me mind  O0

It does look sweet though

You should have grabbed the Viggen in the sale to past the time until the F-18.  The viggen is one of the best AC in dcs, definitely the most elegant to fly.  It's worth a look, unique weapon set and mission doctrine.  Plus the anti ship missiles it carries can pretty much blank any ship in the game.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: jomni on July 07, 2017, 05:10:44 AM
Quote from: Skoop on July 07, 2017, 03:52:09 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on July 03, 2017, 12:53:45 PM
I haven't even bought the Viggen yet. I promised myself I wouldn't be buying anymore modules until they get releasing.

1.5 is still in beta and 2 is in godamn alpha!

I do hope I can hold out. The weak pound is helping me mind  O0

It does look sweet though

You should have grabbed the Viggen in the sale to past the time until the F-18.  The viggen is one of the best AC in dcs, definitely the most elegant to fly.  It's worth a look, unique weapon set and mission doctrine.  Plus the anti ship missiles it carries can pretty much blank any ship in the game.

How does it fare in MP?
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Nefaro on July 07, 2017, 09:09:36 AM
Quote from: jomni on July 07, 2017, 05:10:44 AM
Quote from: Skoop on July 07, 2017, 03:52:09 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on July 03, 2017, 12:53:45 PM
I haven't even bought the Viggen yet. I promised myself I wouldn't be buying anymore modules until they get releasing.

1.5 is still in beta and 2 is in godamn alpha!

I do hope I can hold out. The weak pound is helping me mind  O0

It does look sweet though

You should have grabbed the Viggen in the sale to past the time until the F-18.  The viggen is one of the best AC in dcs, definitely the most elegant to fly.  It's worth a look, unique weapon set and mission doctrine.  Plus the anti ship missiles it carries can pretty much blank any ship in the game.

How does it fare in MP?



It's AtA fits in with the MiG-21 and F-5.  Sidewinders only.  Not great energy retention in sustained turning iirc.

Think the Cold War server added them.

Of course, if you wanna attempt being a sneaky low-level bomber, you could try that on the other servers.  But the F-15s, Su-27s, and MiG-29s will have a big advantage over you.  The Mirage 2k also, although to a lesser extent.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Skoop on July 07, 2017, 01:38:23 PM
The Dcs viggen variant is primarily a strike AC hence the ir missiles only.  The viggen has an interceptor variant but it's not the one in Dcs.  The appeal is the strike capability it provides, only AC in Dcs that carries JSOWs and smart anti shipping weaponry.
It's actually one of the easiest modules to learn basic flight ops because of the autopilot system.  The viggens appeal in mp is more pve ground pounding, it's definately not the AC for airquake servers.

The viggens main characteristic is that it flies 100ft off the ground at Mach 1.2to be undetectable, plaster a target in one pass, then high tail it home.  The swedes anticipated all thier Airfields being destroyed in the 1st hour of WWIII so they developed a mobile ils system to allow the viggens to operate from roads.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Destraex on July 07, 2017, 10:29:00 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on July 06, 2017, 08:52:25 AM
Quote from: Destraex on July 06, 2017, 05:06:39 AM
I for one am glad DCS are doing ww2. Best sim for all eras imho.

Key words.  :peace:

lol Jar. I should have said at least 4 of my friends that I know of plus myself.
I like to think of us as the "silent majority", you know, the common man without the flying computers, the real pilots :P.... ok that was laid on a bit thick.
I am looking forward to the tomcat and the f18 personally.

I really do think DCS has the potential tol end up with superior everything for ww2. I don't see the same potential from games like BOS and il2 clod anymore. BOS has advanced a lot, but until they add an "earmuffs/in helmet" mode so I can hear the engine without my tinitus flaring up. I  won't know.

Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Yskonyn on July 08, 2017, 07:10:22 AM
Quote from: Skoop on July 06, 2017, 11:34:17 AM
Quote from: Destraex on July 06, 2017, 05:06:39 AM
I for one am glad DCS are doing ww2. Best sim for all eras imho.
I don't know, I'd say il2 BOS is the best WWII sim out right now.  Going from il2 to Dcs wwii you can definatly tell the difference.  The flight models for DCS wwii seem so generic.  In il2 the flight models are Taylor made for prop aircraft, it seems more immersive.  The stall sequence in il2 is unique for each aircraft, in DCS it's seems cut and past....you pull too hard screen goes black.

The screen going black has nothing to do with stalling though. That is the effect of over-G on the pilot suffering a blackout. DCS models this quite nicely, but in fact it feels arbitrary because there is no sensory input from your body when pulling to hard in the sim.

Stalling is when the airflow over the wing seperates and in effect the aircraft ceased to fly and turns into a brick plummeting to the earth.

The stall characteristics of the Mustang feel quite dynamic. The Spitfire feels less detailed, but the aircraft is still in early access, so that might be a reason. On the other hand it does sport the elliptical wing design which became famous for its relaxed stall characteristics. I haven't flown other WW2 birds yet in DCS.
The stall characteristics of the A-10C feel very dynamic as well, however.
This tells me the sim-engine is capable of very detailed simulation, perhaps the various flight models are limited at this point still.

Try flying the KA-50 or Mi-8 helicopter in a mountainous area in DCS with strong wind conditions. You'll be amazed at the feedback from the simulator.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Skoop on July 08, 2017, 02:27:29 PM
Quote from: Destraex on July 07, 2017, 10:29:00 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on July 06, 2017, 08:52:25 AM
Quote from: Destraex on July 06, 2017, 05:06:39 AM
I for one am glad DCS are doing ww2. Best sim for all eras imho.

Key words.  :peace:

lol Jar. I should have said at least 4 of my friends that I know of plus myself.
I like to think of us as the "silent majority", you know, the common man without the flying computers, the real pilots :P.... ok that was laid on a bit thick.
I am looking forward to the tomcat and the f18 personally.

I really do think DCS has the potential tol end up with superior everything for ww2. I don't see the same potential from games like BOS and il2 clod anymore. BOS has advanced a lot, but until they add an "earmuffs/in helmet" mode so I can hear the engine without my tinitus flaring up. I  won't know.
I'd like to think so too about dcs WWII, but after flying both sims...IL2 BOS kills dcs wwII on everything except the ease of editor and clickable cockpits.  DCS WWII has a long way to go to even be close to IL2 BOS. Many of us wish they hadn't even gone there because the modern setting is where DCS rocks.  If we hadn't had to sit through this WWII excursion, we probably all would be posting about how awesome it is to fly the F18 on the straights of Hormuz map.  I don't want to pile on too hard though cuz I did buy it.  I figured I'll get use out of the map for sure and I got a few planes for 12 bucks.  So what ever DCS does with WWII is just bonus, not really expecting much. 
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Nefaro on July 10, 2017, 08:01:14 PM
Quote from: Skoop on July 08, 2017, 02:27:29 PM
Quote from: Destraex on July 07, 2017, 10:29:00 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on July 06, 2017, 08:52:25 AM
Quote from: Destraex on July 06, 2017, 05:06:39 AM
I for one am glad DCS are doing ww2. Best sim for all eras imho.

Key words.  :peace:

lol Jar. I should have said at least 4 of my friends that I know of plus myself.
I like to think of us as the "silent majority", you know, the common man without the flying computers, the real pilots :P.... ok that was laid on a bit thick.
I am looking forward to the tomcat and the f18 personally.

I really do think DCS has the potential tol end up with superior everything for ww2. I don't see the same potential from games like BOS and il2 clod anymore. BOS has advanced a lot, but until they add an "earmuffs/in helmet" mode so I can hear the engine without my tinitus flaring up. I  won't know.
I'd like to think so too about dcs WWII, but after flying both sims...IL2 BOS kills dcs wwII on everything except the ease of editor and clickable cockpits.  DCS WWII has a long way to go to even be close to IL2 BOS. Many of us wish they hadn't even gone there because the modern setting is where DCS rocks.  If we hadn't had to sit through this WWII excursion, we probably all would be posting about how awesome it is to fly the F18 on the straights of Hormuz map.  I don't want to pile on too hard though cuz I did buy it.  I figured I'll get use out of the map for sure and I got a few planes for 12 bucks.  So what ever DCS does with WWII is just bonus, not really expecting much.



I'm with Skoop on this.

DCS just can't stand up toIL-2:BoS, and it's add-ons, based on the Rise Of Flight engine (which is pretty awesome, too).

As you can tell in this recent Magz video featuring some damaged & low-speed Spit fighting:





I'm grateful that DCS has been doing modern jets & helos.  They're pretty much the only steady one in the full-sim business right now.  Which makes their foray into a different era, which is already being covered better and more efficiently elsewhere, needless.  It also continues to confirm my view that a small, but vocal, swath of people think WW2 should be shoe-horned into every game engine whether it fits or not.     :pullhair:


Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Destraex on July 11, 2017, 05:19:01 AM
I get the feeling Nef and scoop, that you are more talking about a ww2 game needing a complete set of aircraft to simulate a war rather than comparing the flight models?
One of the things that is said of DCS is that some aircraft feel easy to fly.... because they were in real life. Some simulators go out of their way to exagerrate the flight failings of aircraft to make them seem hard and therefore more amazing to fly. I am not saying BOS is one of these. In fact I think CLOD probably had the most detailed model. But really what I find stands out when it comes to DCS is the depth perception and the feeling of flight I get, that I definitely do not get from the rather flat feeling BOS or for that matter CLOD.

What I am saying is that having flight models complex for the sake of saying it's cooler rather than having them simple because it was realistic for the aircraft to handle that way is not my bag.
When BOS came out everybody was saying the dx9 graphics (now dx11 I know) and the arcade like features and simplified flight model adapted from the ww1 engine were absolute shockers. It has come a long way I am guessing. What's even more confusing is that they seem to now have two engines running in tandem development since they brought the CLOD modders project in house.

I really hope that the DCS ww2 does well so that the DCS team can expand. That imho would be much better than BOS or an updated patched up CLOD.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Skoop on July 12, 2017, 11:56:16 AM
My perception from flying both sims simultaneous daily is the complete opposite.  Il2 Bos flight models seem more refined and organic.  It just seems like the Il2/ ROF engine is tailor made forprop aircraft so it feels the most authentic to me.  There's unique historical ins and outs to each aircraft.  I just don't get the same viceral experience from Dcs wwII, it just seems like the models and core are all dragged over from and engine gear for modern jet aircraft.  There's always going to be debate over which one an individual fancies over another.  Flight siming has become such a priority for me, I just do em all.  Rather than debate if Xplane or prepare is better, or IL2 BOS vs Dcs WWII,I just do both.  Then you have the luxury of having the perspective of both, but that might not be an investment for everyone.

Many of my criticism probaly stem from the fact that the 3 aircraft I'm flying are the origional prop aircraft released 3 years ago, so Dcs could very well be in the process of refining the WWII aircraft.  Plus they are working on the p-47, which will be interesting to see their rendition of it.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on July 12, 2017, 12:01:54 PM
I really just wish they had stayed focussed on modern era, adding modern aircraft and, more importantly, scenarios and even new maps.

To go WWII just seems like a distraction that wasn't needed.

I'm happy that WWII fans are happy about the inclusion - personally, I wished they had finished just finished the mess of two versions first. Perhaps WWII didn't take away from that - I don't know. All I know is my perception of that merge of 2 versions is HORRENDOUSLY long
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Pete Dero on July 28, 2017, 11:00:46 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on July 04, 2017, 12:55:51 AM
Does anyone else subscribe to this Bunyap Sim's channel on Youtube?

He's done some superb videos for DCS modules but I haven't heard anything from him for 5 months? Anyone got any scoop? I hope he's ok.

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/products/campaigns/spitfire_operation_epsom_campaign/

The campaign he was working on is released.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on July 28, 2017, 03:05:42 PM
Thanks Pete. I got an email from DCS saying this was out but I didn't know he was involved.

I don't have the WWII stuff and very unlikely to get it...but it's good to see he's still about. Who knows, his videos of his campaign may well turn me (please, God, no!)
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Pete Dero on July 29, 2017, 07:05:30 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on July 28, 2017, 03:05:42 PM
Who knows, his videos of his campaign may well turn me (please, God, no!)

Yeah, you don't need this.

Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on July 29, 2017, 07:15:14 AM
Quote from: Pete Dero on July 29, 2017, 07:05:30 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on July 28, 2017, 03:05:42 PM
Who knows, his videos of his campaign may well turn me (please, God, no!)

Yeah, you don't need this.


B******  :'(

It might actually get me to fire up the game as I don't often do so (because of time limitations and complexity). WWII would suffer much less from this I imagine
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Yskonyn on July 29, 2017, 08:32:44 AM
Engine management on the Spit is quite complex.
As is the taxi procedure with a taildragger.
As is the aerodynamic model in the sim itself.

:)

Of course you can chicken out by using Game mode, but I dont think you want that? 😊😇
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: PanzersEast on May 13, 2018, 10:25:41 AM
This bird is the new standard..... the weather effects are amazing!
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 13, 2018, 12:38:23 PM
You got early access???
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Yskonyn on May 13, 2018, 02:44:00 PM
Moar Hoarnet!
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on May 13, 2018, 02:54:43 PM
This is one sweet MF aircraft! So nimble and powerful
Shit. Posted this and meant to come back and say "jk"...I got tied up in the Harrier and forgot...so, jk.  O0
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 13, 2018, 05:03:32 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on May 13, 2018, 02:54:43 PM
This is one sweet MF aircraft! So nimble and powerful
Shit. Posted this and meant to come back and say "jk"...I got tied up in the Harrier and forgot...so, jk.  O0

You bastage!  I knew you were pulling my leg...but there was that slight tinge of possibility. Grrrrrrrrrr....
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Grim.Reaper on May 13, 2018, 05:19:11 PM
Was looking at this all day and realized the specs of the game might have passed my computer by in terms of graphics card...could have sworn things were OK with older DCS World, guessing the latest 2.5 might have upped the specs.  Tried playing the modules I had and seemed to skip quite a bit.....maybe picking this up right now won't be a wise thing until I get some upgrades.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on May 14, 2018, 12:15:30 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 13, 2018, 05:03:32 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on May 13, 2018, 02:54:43 PM
This is one sweet MF aircraft! So nimble and powerful
Shit. Posted this and meant to come back and say "jk"...I got tied up in the Harrier and forgot...so, jk.  O0

You bastage!  I knew you were pulling my leg...but there was that slight tinge of possibility. Grrrrrrrrrr....
Yeah sorry. I genuinely meant to leave that for 5 minutes.

Seriously though, Spring must be over, right?
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Yskonyn on May 14, 2018, 12:20:15 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on May 13, 2018, 05:19:11 PM
Was looking at this all day and realized the specs of the game might have passed my computer by in terms of graphics card...could have sworn things were OK with older DCS World, guessing the latest 2.5 might have upped the specs.  Tried playing the modules I had and seemed to skip quite a bit.....maybe picking this up right now won't be a wise thing until I get some upgrades.

Minimum specs have been raised indeed for 2.5.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Pete Dero on May 14, 2018, 04:27:45 AM
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Grim.Reaper on May 14, 2018, 04:43:43 AM
Quote from: Yskonyn on May 14, 2018, 12:20:15 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on May 13, 2018, 05:19:11 PM
Was looking at this all day and realized the specs of the game might have passed my computer by in terms of graphics card...could have sworn things were OK with older DCS World, guessing the latest 2.5 might have upped the specs.  Tried playing the modules I had and seemed to skip quite a bit.....maybe picking this up right now won't be a wise thing until I get some upgrades.

Minimum specs have been raised indeed for 2.5.

thanks for the confirmation.  wish i would have noticed sooner, time to seriously consider replacing my computer.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Pete Dero on May 15, 2018, 02:50:01 AM
Don't look if you decided not to pre-order  >:D.




Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on May 15, 2018, 03:20:59 AM
lol - at 2:37 I was imagining the Top Gun scene
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: PanzersEast on May 15, 2018, 11:54:20 AM
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on May 15, 2018, 01:24:42 PM
Please stop posting these  :'(
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Pete Dero on May 15, 2018, 01:59:38 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on May 15, 2018, 01:24:42 PM
Please stop posting these  :'(

Would you prefer we just post the links ?  >:D


DCS needs your money !       (they already took mine  :-[)
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 15, 2018, 03:52:21 PM


The wait is killing me...
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on May 15, 2018, 04:02:43 PM
Quote from: Pete Dero on May 15, 2018, 01:59:38 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on May 15, 2018, 01:24:42 PM
Please stop posting these  :'(

Would you prefer we just post the links ?  >:D


DCS needs your money !       (they already took mine  :-[)
I've already paid - I'm just waiting for release. It must be imminent. This weekend? Please?  :hide:
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: mbar on May 15, 2018, 09:49:18 PM
The maneuvers. Just wow.

Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: RyanE on May 16, 2018, 08:30:50 AM
Holy Crap!  That is one of the most amazing flght sim videos I have ever seen.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on May 16, 2018, 11:04:26 AM
people need to stop posting in here until it's released. Everytime I see a new post, I think it might be released....stop - including me from now!
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 16, 2018, 11:18:13 AM
My money is on this Friday for the Hornet (its May 18th) and the following Friday for the Persian Gulf map.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on May 16, 2018, 11:24:44 AM
please be true  :notworthy:
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 16, 2018, 11:29:48 AM
Yeah...if the hornet doesn't come this Friday I'll be really disappointed too.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: PanzersEast on May 16, 2018, 11:37:02 AM
I'm not going to lie.... when flying Falcon BMS compared to seeing the  DCS FA-18 in action, it feels really outdated now and feature poor...... I still love BMS, but man looking at the FA-18 makes you engrossed in the sim and want to touch all the buttons.....  Carrier ops is a huge bonus.  I had started back learning the A-10, however really no point as I am all in on the FA-18 now.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 16, 2018, 11:42:48 AM
Quote from: PanzersEast on May 16, 2018, 11:37:02 AM
I'm not going to lie.... when flying Falcon BMS compared to seeing the  DCS FA-18 in action, it feels really outdated now and feature poor...... I still love BMS, but man looking at the FA-18 makes you engrossed in the sim and want to touch all the buttons.....  Carrier ops is a huge bonus.  I had started back learning the A-10, however really no point as I am all in on the FA-18 now.

I really believe the Hornet and Persian Gulf map combo is going to set a new standard for flight simming...certainly for DCS. Although the same issues will remain (ie. no dynamic campaign), I simply don't see how any dedicated sim jock could resist.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: PanzersEast on May 16, 2018, 11:55:11 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 16, 2018, 11:42:48 AM
Quote from: PanzersEast on May 16, 2018, 11:37:02 AM
I'm not going to lie.... when flying Falcon BMS compared to seeing the  DCS FA-18 in action, it feels really outdated now and feature poor...... I still love BMS, but man looking at the FA-18 makes you engrossed in the sim and want to touch all the buttons.....  Carrier ops is a huge bonus.  I had started back learning the A-10, however really no point as I am all in on the FA-18 now.

I really believe the Hornet and Persian Gulf map combo is going to set a new standard for flight simming...certainly for DCS. Although the same issues will remain (ie. no dynamic campaign), I simply don't see how any dedicated sim jock could resist.

I think one thing that cannot be over stated enough is the fact they have now included interactive training flights..... this could potentially greatly reduce the learning curve if done right.


Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Pete Dero on May 16, 2018, 12:36:26 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 16, 2018, 11:42:48 AM
Although the same issues will remain (ie. no dynamic campaign)

Never tried them (and don't know how they run in 2.5) but there are few user made dynamic campaigns.

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=153020

http://www.mudspike.com/guardians-of-the-caucasus-dynamic-campaign-for-dcs-world/
https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=136618   

Due to technical limitations of the DCS framework, the following instructions should be followed:
- In order to allowing carrying over information from one mission to the next, it is absolutely necessary to modify the file 'MissionScripting.lua' in the folder 'DCS World\Scripts'. Add two minus signs in front of line 17 'sanitizeModule('io')' and line 18 'sanitizeModule('lfs')'.
  (Installation instruction in Read Me or in the link https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=136618 )
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Grim.Reaper on May 16, 2018, 04:30:08 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 16, 2018, 11:42:48 AM
Quote from: PanzersEast on May 16, 2018, 11:37:02 AM
I'm not going to lie.... when flying Falcon BMS compared to seeing the  DCS FA-18 in action, it feels really outdated now and feature poor...... I still love BMS, but man looking at the FA-18 makes you engrossed in the sim and want to touch all the buttons.....  Carrier ops is a huge bonus.  I had started back learning the A-10, however really no point as I am all in on the FA-18 now.

I really believe the Hornet and Persian Gulf map combo is going to set a new standard for flight simming...certainly for DCS. Although the same issues will remain (ie. no dynamic campaign), I simply don't see how any dedicated sim jock could resist.

Although not dedicated sim jock, only reason I haven't bought it is because my stupid computer can't even support the lower end of this game:(  For most every other game out there, I am fine...maybe some day.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Skoop on May 16, 2018, 05:33:36 PM
All flight sims are resource hungry by nature.  Prepar3d, xplane, FSX, IL2, and DCS all require a top of the line computer to get good graphics with playable fps.  It's become the nature of the beast.  The 90 fps requirement for VR has forced many of these sims to fix the software bottlenecks, but has left behind some of the legacy systems out there.

The DCS dynamic campaigns are cool, they still aren't the falcon campaign, but the losses carry over mission to mission.  I've seen some near falcon style dynamic campaigns running on MP servers, scripting allows the editor to do just about anything in DCS if you know how to code. 

The best thing about the hornet is that it will bring back alot of people that may have been on DCS hiatus....which will spark even more community activity.

Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on May 17, 2018, 12:08:47 AM
Damn I'm going to have to get a new joystick...the powered USB port didn't make a difference...unplugging my X52 Pro hangs my PC  :'(
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Pete Dero on May 17, 2018, 04:59:30 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 16, 2018, 11:18:13 AM
My money is on this Friday for the Hornet (its May 18th) and the following Friday for the Persian Gulf map.

F = 6
A = 1
18 = 2018

But also could be june 1st 2018 ....
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 17, 2018, 05:45:26 AM
Quote from: Pete Dero on May 17, 2018, 04:59:30 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 16, 2018, 11:18:13 AM
My money is on this Friday for the Hornet (its May 18th) and the following Friday for the Persian Gulf map.

F = 6
A = 1
18 = 2018

But also could be june 1st 2018 ....

Yes. I saw this theory posted in the DCS forum. It is a twisted, heathen theory. Wags already said it is coming before the end of the month. He also said Persian Gulf is coming before the end of the month, and that hornet will come first. So I don't think 6/1 is correct.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: mbar on May 17, 2018, 10:38:58 AM
I just pre-ordered the F/A-18 and Persian Gulf Map. I feel so dirty.

<curls up into a ball at bottom of shower>
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 17, 2018, 11:03:17 AM
^Slut!
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: mbar on May 17, 2018, 11:27:53 AM
 :DD ^^This guy gets it!
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 17, 2018, 01:08:00 PM
Prevailing speculation on release has now shifted to next Friday. Apparently ED posted on its facebook page that there are still some issues they need to iron out and Wags will be making a further announcement during a livestream scheduled for this Sunday.

Sucks. Was really hoping this would come tomorrow.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Grim.Reaper on May 17, 2018, 05:49:02 PM
Well, I went ahead and purchased a new PC, I guess I now have to purchase this game, even though I am very poor now:)
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: PanzersEast on May 17, 2018, 06:31:43 PM
Looks like I'm back to the skies over N. Korea and the Middle East in the 16 for another week.......

Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on May 18, 2018, 12:05:00 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on May 17, 2018, 05:49:02 PM
Well, I went ahead and purchased a new PC, I guess I now have to purchase this game, even though I am very poor now:)
lol - but your life will be enriched beyond your wildest dreams when it's released  :notworthy:
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Pete Dero on May 18, 2018, 02:44:04 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on May 17, 2018, 05:49:02 PM
Well, I went ahead and purchased a new PC, I guess I now have to purchase this game, even though I am very poor now:)

You also must have :

- a new HOTAS to fly the plane
- Track IR for immersion
- Tacview software to analyse your performance
- a Creditcard you can max out
- ...

O:-)   ;)
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Nefaro on May 18, 2018, 03:04:08 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on May 17, 2018, 05:49:02 PM
Well, I went ahead and purchased a new PC, I guess I now have to purchase this game, even though I am very poor now:)

Don't forget the extra wallet draining hardware! 

Can't be flyin' around without HOTAS and TrackIR now, can we?!   :-"
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on May 18, 2018, 05:47:34 AM
Quote from: Nefaro on May 18, 2018, 03:04:08 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on May 17, 2018, 05:49:02 PM
Well, I went ahead and purchased a new PC, I guess I now have to purchase this game, even though I am very poor now:)

Don't forget the extra wallet draining hardware! 

Can't be flyin' around without HOTAS and TrackIR now, can we?!   :-"
I ain't got no stinking HOTAS - though I will eventually admit that TrackIR does enhance the experience somewhat
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: mbar on May 18, 2018, 07:56:24 AM
I do have HOTAS and TrackIR now but I did start out learning to take off and land with an F-15C using the Xbox controller. I put quite a bit a thought into the configuration of the controller and mode switching to make it all fit.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 18, 2018, 10:14:53 AM
Release dates set...

Persian Gulf map on 5/23 and Hornet on 5/30.

Oh well...
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on May 18, 2018, 10:16:10 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 18, 2018, 10:14:53 AM
Release dates set...

Persian Gulf map on 5/23 and Hornet on 5/30.

Oh well...
Wednesday? pfft

I suppose it gives me time to watch those 10 intro missions posted by someone somewhere
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: IronX on May 18, 2018, 10:46:26 AM
Booo!
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Nefaro on May 18, 2018, 04:52:36 PM
QuoteDCS: F/A-18C Hornet and Persian Gulf Map for DCS World Update

As we rapidly approach the release of the Hornet and Persian Gulf map this month, we are now pleased to announce the exact release dates. We will first release the Persian Gulf Map for DCS World on 23 May 2018 and then DCS: F/A-18C Hornet on 30 May 2018! We will release both this month as promised.

In order to meet your expectations for the Hornet early access release, we decided to move the Hornet release to shortly after the Persian Gulf Map release. Items we still need to complete are:

    Completed radar-directed AA Gun, AIM-9, and AIM-7 symbology
    AUTO bombing mode
    Radar contacts on the Electronic Warfare (EW) Page
    The Moving Map

We believe these are all vital for a great early access release.


Still not sure if they have AAM capability done. 

Will watch some people flying the Hornet.  Just hope there is some action when it comes out.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on May 18, 2018, 04:57:51 PM
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Grim.Reaper on May 18, 2018, 05:48:55 PM
Quote from: Pete Dero on May 18, 2018, 02:44:04 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on May 17, 2018, 05:49:02 PM
Well, I went ahead and purchased a new PC, I guess I now have to purchase this game, even though I am very poor now:)

You also must have :

- a new HOTAS to fly the plane
- Track IR for immersion
- Tacview software to analyse your performance
- a Creditcard you can max out
- ...

O:-)   ;)

Already have that gear, so no need to buy (except for Tacview)   :)
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: jomni on May 18, 2018, 07:47:32 PM
I don't think I'll be able to land on a carrier. :(
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: IronX on May 18, 2018, 07:47:59 PM
You only have to buy Tacview if want the full-featured program. The free version is still pretty useful.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Toonces on May 19, 2018, 04:15:30 PM
That video makes me want to join the Navy!   :bd:
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Grim.Reaper on May 19, 2018, 05:23:54 PM
Quote from: IronX on May 18, 2018, 07:47:59 PM
You only have to buy Tacview if want the full-featured program. The free version is still pretty useful.

Yep, understood....not sure I am good enough player to use those types of tools.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: IronX on May 19, 2018, 06:25:12 PM
 I've used it a few times for IL-2, more often out of curiosity than as a serious analytical tool. It is great for showing you what's going on around you as much as what you're doing right or wrong. I've been surprised to find, for example, how many other aircraft were near me during MP missions that I never saw because I was so focused on what I was doing.

Edit: Coincidentally, this came up in my YT feed last night and shows how TacView can be a useful post-action review tool.

Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Grim.Reaper on May 20, 2018, 07:01:25 AM
Curious, since the Hornet and new map will be in early access mode, anybody know how it will be made available?  Just show up in DCS World?  Or do you have to download and implement some kind of separate early access/beta version from somewhere?  Never participated in this stuff below so not sure.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 20, 2018, 08:07:49 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on May 20, 2018, 07:01:25 AM
Curious, since the Hornet and new map will be in early access mode, anybody know how it will be made available?  Just show up in DCS World?  Or do you have to download and implement some kind of separate early access/beta version from somewhere?  Never participated in this stuff below so not sure.

It will appear in your modules section within DCS World. You install it from there.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Grim.Reaper on May 20, 2018, 08:14:47 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 20, 2018, 08:07:49 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on May 20, 2018, 07:01:25 AM
Curious, since the Hornet and new map will be in early access mode, anybody know how it will be made available?  Just show up in DCS World?  Or do you have to download and implement some kind of separate early access/beta version from somewhere?  Never participated in this stuff below so not sure.

It will appear in your modules section within DCS World. You install it from there.

Great...I was reading some place and they talked about a "beta" branch so wasn't sure if you needed that our just the normal install of it.  Glad to hear its business as usual versus something different.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Yskonyn on May 20, 2018, 02:07:44 PM
It IS something different.
You will need to have the open beta installed of DCS World to be able to load the Hormuz map and the Hornet.
Luckily you can force your install to the OB branch by using the updater.exe program in a command prompt environment. More info is linked earlier in the thread.
But for clarity; the map and Hornet will NOT show up in the module manager of the stable branch yet come the 23rd.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on May 21, 2018, 02:39:15 PM
I've decided I'm either going to get a HOTAS Warthog or a Logitech X56 Rhino HOTAS


I think.

I'm not really sure. I'm having issues with my X-52 Pro. I love it and bought it second hand quite some time ago. I would be tempted to buy another new one if I knew the problem would go away - but I'm not sure it will. I've been looking at other sticks and I'm really taken with the Warthog.

However...I do play racing games more than I play flight simulations. But - there's nothing wrong with my steering wheel...and I have spent plenty of money on DCS - so I kind of think even though I play driving sims more, the stick seems a decent choice.

Unfortunately, I don't have £400 sitting around - so I'll have to save up fora few months first. Can't have the kids going hungry.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 21, 2018, 03:04:05 PM
For the record, I'm not 100% thrilled with the X-55. I suppose, overall, I'm satisfied, but I don't like it as much as the X-52Pro, which I had for years. Now, I've heard the X-56 does have some improvements, but it seems like more or less the same HOTAS to me.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on May 21, 2018, 03:45:17 PM
I love the X52 Pro - but the damn thing locks my PC when I unplug it and I can't find what the problem is (PC wise). So my only conclusion, thus far, is there's something wrong with the stick - and I've seen posts where people suggested power being the issue. So I bought (and wasted I might add) £20 on a powered hub in the hope that solved the problem. Nope.

Anyway - I thought you had a Warthog?
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 21, 2018, 04:44:40 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on May 21, 2018, 03:45:17 PM
I love the X52 Pro - but the damn thing locks my PC when I unplug it and I can't find what the problem is (PC wise). So my only conclusion, thus far, is there's something wrong with the stick - and I've seen posts where people suggested power being the issue. So I bought (and wasted I might add) £20 on a powered hub in the hope that solved the problem. Nope.

Anyway - I thought you had a Warthog?

Negative. I have a Rhino.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on May 21, 2018, 05:35:53 PM
Aaah. So you preferred the X-52 Pro to the Rhino?

Maybe I could try a new X-52 and if I get the same issue, return it  :dreamer:
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Nefaro on May 21, 2018, 06:15:25 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on May 21, 2018, 05:35:53 PM
Aaah. So you preferred the X-52 Pro to the Rhino?

Maybe I could try a new X-52 and if I get the same issue, return it  :dreamer:

1) I've heard the X52 has internal wiring issues that tend to show up over time.  Someone I spoke to mentioned recently getting rid of his due to some wires shorting out while he was using it.

2) I believe Saitek was bought out by a different company recently.  Not sure if they're still producing much of their products.

Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 21, 2018, 07:49:07 PM
^ Saitek was bought by Logitech from Mad Catz.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on May 21, 2018, 11:46:50 PM
Quote from: Nefaro on May 21, 2018, 06:15:25 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on May 21, 2018, 05:35:53 PM
Aaah. So you preferred the X-52 Pro to the Rhino?

Maybe I could try a new X-52 and if I get the same issue, return it  :dreamer:

1) I've heard the X52 has internal wiring issues that tend to show up over time.  Someone I spoke to mentioned recently getting rid of his due to some wires shorting out while he was using it.

2) I believe Saitek was bought out by a different company recently.  Not sure if they're still producing much of their products.
I've read lots of posts and tried various fixes...nothing has worked yet.

I have no problems using the stick in game. It's when I unplug the stick my system becomes unresponsive and needs a reboot. Not the end of the world, but annoying as hell...especially now I let it get under my skin.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 22, 2018, 03:13:03 AM
I'm far from an expert, but that sounds more like a driver issue than a possible power problem, no?
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Yskonyn on May 22, 2018, 06:35:38 AM
I'd say thats a typical driver thing as well. Not a hardware issue (at least not of the stick).
But buying something new is great regardless! :P
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on May 22, 2018, 06:53:37 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 22, 2018, 03:13:03 AM
I'm far from an expert, but that sounds more like a driver issue than a possible power problem, no?
Mate - I initially thought exactly the same thing but I've tried so many different drivers you wouldn't believe.

It wasn't doing this a year or so ago. Maybe some MS update. I don't know.

I've tried different drivers. A powered hub (people saying it might be drawing more power than the USB can handle). I've tried removing all my other USB devices and just having the stick in. I just can't track it down.

I'm fed up trying now too...because everytime I try something new and it fails, I need to hard reboot.

Hence why I'm looking to splurdge money on a new stick.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Nefaro on May 22, 2018, 12:02:13 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 22, 2018, 03:13:03 AM
I'm far from an expert, but that sounds more like a driver issue than a possible power problem, no?

Most likely a driver problem.  Whether an issue on the manufacturer's side, or by Microsoft, dunno.  Although the onus is often ultimately on the manufacturer.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Grim.Reaper on May 22, 2018, 07:44:05 PM
Well, built my new computer and got it all ready for this game now.....I better be able to run it with this thing:)

Although I am a little pissed with it....I get the whole darn thing built, only to find out one of the front panel case USB ports is dead on arrival.  Not a chance that I am rebuilding this thing again but hate that something brand new already has a defect.  Did not want to send the whole case back as replacement for just the port....Amazon at least did something reasonable by giving me a credit so I could purchase a USB card expansion where I can add my own ports.

This is what I ended up building.

Intel 8700k
32 GB of RAM (yep, probably over kill)
GTX 1080 TI Card (11GB)
4TB SSD Drive for Games/Windows
6TB Data Drive for all my other crap

Hoping this takes care of things for awhile.....
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 22, 2018, 08:49:36 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on May 22, 2018, 07:44:05 PM
Well, built my new computer and got it all ready for this game now.....I better be able to run it with this thing:)

Although I am a little pissed with it....I get the whole darn thing built, only to find out one of the front panel case USB ports is dead on arrival.  Not a chance that I am rebuilding this thing again but hate that something brand new already has a defect.  Did not want to send the whole case back as replacement for just the port....Amazon at least did something reasonable by giving me a credit so I could purchase a USB card expansion where I can add my own ports.

This is what I ended up building.

Intel 8700k
32 GB of RAM (yep, probably over kill)
GTX 1080 TI Card (11GB)
4TB SSD Drive for Games/Windows
6TB Data Drive for all my other crap

Hoping this takes care of things for awhile.....

Wow. 4TB SSD? What did that set you back?

Bravo on a fantastic system!
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Grim.Reaper on May 22, 2018, 09:00:03 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 22, 2018, 08:49:36 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on May 22, 2018, 07:44:05 PM
Well, built my new computer and got it all ready for this game now.....I better be able to run it with this thing:)

Although I am a little pissed with it....I get the whole darn thing built, only to find out one of the front panel case USB ports is dead on arrival.  Not a chance that I am rebuilding this thing again but hate that something brand new already has a defect.  Did not want to send the whole case back as replacement for just the port....Amazon at least did something reasonable by giving me a credit so I could purchase a USB card expansion where I can add my own ports.

This is what I ended up building.

Intel 8700k
32 GB of RAM (yep, probably over kill)
GTX 1080 TI Card (11GB)
4TB SSD Drive for Games/Windows
6TB Data Drive for all my other crap

Hoping this takes care of things for awhile.....

Wow. 4TB SSD? What did that set you back?

Bravo on a fantastic system!

thanks...the ssd drive was around $1000.  just couldn't imagine putting something smaller as i hope to make last next 5-6 years like my old system.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Yskonyn on May 22, 2018, 09:06:23 PM
Wow that's a killer system! Congrats!
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Nefaro on May 22, 2018, 11:47:57 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on May 22, 2018, 07:44:05 PM
Well, built my new computer and got it all ready for this game now.....I better be able to run it with this thing:)

Although I am a little pissed with it....I get the whole darn thing built, only to find out one of the front panel case USB ports is dead on arrival.  Not a chance that I am rebuilding this thing again but hate that something brand new already has a defect.  Did not want to send the whole case back as replacement for just the port....Amazon at least did something reasonable by giving me a credit so I could purchase a USB card expansion where I can add my own ports.

This is what I ended up building.

Intel 8700k
32 GB of RAM (yep, probably over kill)
GTX 1080 TI Card (11GB)
4TB SSD Drive for Games/Windows
6TB Data Drive for all my other crap

Hoping this takes care of things for awhile.....

Nice rig!

I had an issue with a PC case I picked up from Amazon a few years ago, for building a nephew's computer.  The front panel USB came loose in short order, and the power switch failed.  Unfortunately the bad reviews mentioning the same issue didn't start showing up until after the purchase.

Never had issues with budget towers before, other than some sub-par layouts with a penchant for cutting you open via the sheet metal edges, and I had built quite a few over the years.  Gonna have to be careful shopping those at Amazon from now on after that shoddy PoS.  Got one since then and it was fine; good value. 
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on May 23, 2018, 12:28:03 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on May 22, 2018, 09:00:03 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 22, 2018, 08:49:36 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on May 22, 2018, 07:44:05 PM
Well, built my new computer and got it all ready for this game now.....I better be able to run it with this thing:)

Although I am a little pissed with it....I get the whole darn thing built, only to find out one of the front panel case USB ports is dead on arrival.  Not a chance that I am rebuilding this thing again but hate that something brand new already has a defect.  Did not want to send the whole case back as replacement for just the port....Amazon at least did something reasonable by giving me a credit so I could purchase a USB card expansion where I can add my own ports.

This is what I ended up building.

Intel 8700k
32 GB of RAM (yep, probably over kill)
GTX 1080 TI Card (11GB)
4TB SSD Drive for Games/Windows
6TB Data Drive for all my other crap

Hoping this takes care of things for awhile.....

Wow. 4TB SSD? What did that set you back?

Bravo on a fantastic system!

thanks...the ssd drive was around $1000.  just couldn't imagine putting something smaller as i hope to make last next 5-6 years like my old system.
:hide:

$1000 for a hard drive!!!!!!!!

You should defo get some mileage out of that rig. Nice one pal.  O0
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Grim.Reaper on May 23, 2018, 04:28:13 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on May 23, 2018, 12:28:03 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on May 22, 2018, 09:00:03 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 22, 2018, 08:49:36 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on May 22, 2018, 07:44:05 PM
Well, built my new computer and got it all ready for this game now.....I better be able to run it with this thing:)

Although I am a little pissed with it....I get the whole darn thing built, only to find out one of the front panel case USB ports is dead on arrival.  Not a chance that I am rebuilding this thing again but hate that something brand new already has a defect.  Did not want to send the whole case back as replacement for just the port....Amazon at least did something reasonable by giving me a credit so I could purchase a USB card expansion where I can add my own ports.

This is what I ended up building.

Intel 8700k
32 GB of RAM (yep, probably over kill)
GTX 1080 TI Card (11GB)
4TB SSD Drive for Games/Windows
6TB Data Drive for all my other crap

Hoping this takes care of things for awhile.....

Wow. 4TB SSD? What did that set you back?

Bravo on a fantastic system!

thanks...the ssd drive was around $1000.  just couldn't imagine putting something smaller as i hope to make last next 5-6 years like my old system.
:hide:

$1000 for a hard drive!!!!!!!!

You should defo get some mileage out of that rig. Nice one pal.  O0

regular price as around $1500-$1600 so i got a bargain:)

the 2tb was about $800 so i thought what the heck for a few $$$$ more.

i just wanted to make sure that i could fit all my games for a long time without having to install and uninstall all the time,

to be honest, i think this is my last gaming rig where i will go all in.  as i am getting older, finding myself not gaming as much so after this dies, likely will go simple.

and what made the decision even easier...i really only paid out of pocket around $1500 for the total rig.  i had some reward points that i was able to turn into cash so that made decision even easier:)
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on May 23, 2018, 04:36:13 AM
Sweet   :bd:
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 23, 2018, 08:31:32 AM
Persian Gulf hits today, ladies.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on May 23, 2018, 08:31:48 AM
Ready
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Pete Dero on May 23, 2018, 10:45:15 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 23, 2018, 08:31:32 AM
Persian Gulf hits today, ladies.

Released.

But : It seems the Persian gulf map is only available for the open beta for now.
If you run 2.5 (latest stable release) it asks you if you want to install the Persian Map but you probably will get an error.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 23, 2018, 10:52:04 AM
I only run the beta. I don't see any reason to install the stable version yet.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on May 23, 2018, 12:16:09 PM
mmm. It's not showing in my module manager. I have 2.5.1.16978 installed and the shortcut says it's DCS World OpenBETA

Aaahh....
Quote
Requires DCS World version 2.5.2 or above!

Well my updater isn't "updating". So I'm sitting on 2.5.1 and so don't have access to Persian Gulf yet.

Updating manually running DCS_Updater update @openbeta and is currently installing 2.5.2
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Pete Dero on May 23, 2018, 12:49:34 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on May 23, 2018, 12:16:09 PM
mmm. It's not showing in my module manager. I have 2.5.1.16978 installed and the shortcut says it's DCS World OpenBETA

Aaahh....
Quote
Requires DCS World version 2.5.2 or above!

Well my updater isn't "updating". So I'm sitting on 2.5.1 and so don't have access to Persian Gulf yet.

Updating manually running DCS_Updater update @openbeta and is currently installing 2.5.2

The DCS Updater GUI Utility (https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=160053)

I use this app to manage my updates (select advanced update options) so you no longer need to use the manual method.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on May 23, 2018, 04:18:11 PM
Thanks. But I knew about that - I just didn't like that tool

8GB download installed - now the 13GB map  <:-)
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 23, 2018, 04:20:04 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on May 23, 2018, 04:18:11 PM
Thanks. But I knew about that - I just didn't like that tool

8GB download installed - now the 13GB map  <:-)

I'm installing the map right now too...

Really, really wish I had a hornet to fly over it with.  :'(
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Grim.Reaper on May 23, 2018, 05:21:04 PM
Downloading as well...I can't wait to see how this thing performs on the new machine...although I suck at the game so dont expect that to change....
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on May 24, 2018, 01:07:37 AM
This map is simply stunning and I'm hugely impressed with how smooth flying it is. The cities look very populated with a huge amount of varied buildings and yet flying low level is smooth as silk.

I love this
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Yskonyn on May 24, 2018, 03:51:36 AM
Their new terrain and rendering tech is awesome indeed.
If you haven't yet, flying on Normandy is much better these days as well!
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on May 24, 2018, 03:56:07 AM
Quote from: Yskonyn on May 24, 2018, 03:51:36 AM
Their new terrain and rendering tech is awesome indeed.
If you haven't yet, flying on Normandy is much better these days as well!
I don't really have much of a desire to buy the Normandy map. I know you can fly anything on it, but I have no desire to get into anything WWII related in DCS.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Grim.Reaper on May 24, 2018, 04:55:50 AM
my download took forever last night so couldn't really play it....hope to get some time tonight, but does look nice.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 24, 2018, 06:48:21 AM
I had some trouble setting up a quick mission. When using the advanced settings, I couldn't generate a mission because it kept telling me there was no aerodrome in the region I selected? I was able to generate missions fine if I didn't use the advanced options menu. Weird.

Anyway, the one mission I flew was over a region that was mostly desert, and would you believe it was raining!? Pouring! Nevertheless, it was all still so fantastic.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on May 24, 2018, 06:58:03 AM
I had an issue with the quick mission. I managed initially to get one going, but the second time I created one, I selected the advanced options and when I went to fly, it hung around 70% loading. Ended up quiting and going to bed.

I created a mission using the Mission Editor this morning with some simple waypoints and it worked great. I don't know the city I flew over (Dubai?) but it was stunning.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Pete Dero on May 28, 2018, 03:55:31 AM




Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Grim.Reaper on May 28, 2018, 05:32:06 PM
A little bit of discomfort being show by Steam users....sounds like they were able to bump up the release for Steam to June 1st, but doing that somehow does not allow them to provide a discount to those users which was previously indicated.  I guess the good news is they do get it sooner, but probably some disappointed no discount until some future sale comes along.  For me I bought through the developer, which I plan to do going forward if I buy anything else.

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=209863
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: mbar on May 28, 2018, 06:28:29 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on May 28, 2018, 05:32:06 PM
For me I bought through the developer, which I plan to do going forward if I buy anything else.

I'm doing the same. The publishers module manager has improved and I find it more user friendly now.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Grim.Reaper on May 29, 2018, 06:53:40 PM
Bummed that I need to work late tomorrow night on release day....I guess I will need to read impressions and have envy until I get home.  Although I guess no hurry since it will take me forever to learn how to fly this thing, or event get it off the ground:)
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Pete Dero on May 30, 2018, 09:04:01 AM
Released !
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 30, 2018, 09:06:59 AM
god damn it...of course, just the second I walk out the door for work. Russian bastards!
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Yskonyn on May 30, 2018, 09:13:21 AM
I don't have time either. Darnit!
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Pete Dero on May 30, 2018, 09:13:42 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 30, 2018, 09:06:59 AM
god damn it...of course, just the second I walk out the door for work. Russian bastards!

Don't worry, error codes are popping up (https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=210033.)

Can't install it for the time being ..

edit : Version for DCS: F/A-18C IS: 2.5.2.17978 (and this version isn't out yet !)
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 30, 2018, 09:25:21 AM
^OMG. The internet is going to meltdown. Glad I'll miss out on the frustration...unless it isn't sorted out by the time I get home!
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: IronX on May 30, 2018, 09:51:10 AM
Got the same error. Not even the forum is working now. Is the apocalypse? Is this how it all ends?
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Pete Dero on May 30, 2018, 11:15:21 AM
https://forums.eagle.ru/announcement.php?f=105

DCS 2.5.2.17978 Update 1 for Open Beta

Hello, The files are still being uploaded. Please don't force an update when the files are still being sent to servers around the world. Thanks
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: IronX on May 30, 2018, 12:04:20 PM
Downloading files now. Whew. Apocalypse avoided.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 31, 2018, 09:04:07 AM
So...what is the trick to depressing two separate switches at the same time on opposite sides of the cockpit?  The FCS test procedure on cold start-up has me stumped. Has anyone found a good cold start tutorial video where the narrator describes the correct hot keys to press for each step?  The official one from Matt Wagner is good, but he does not indicate hot keys when required.

EDIT: Nevermind. Problem solved.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: IronX on May 31, 2018, 11:36:35 AM
How did you resolve it? I see that he has kept the Reset button depressed, but I can't work out how he did that.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 31, 2018, 01:04:38 PM
Quote from: IronX on May 31, 2018, 11:36:35 AM
How did you resolve it? I see that he has kept the Reset button depressed, but I can't work out how he did that.

hot keys. The default key for the rest button is 'y'.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: IronX on May 31, 2018, 01:24:15 PM
RGR. Thanks!
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: mbar on May 31, 2018, 01:34:54 PM
Thanks for sharing solution. This training mission is on my list for tonight. I was going to try a click and hold on "one" and see if I could then click on "two" to make it work. I was not optimistic that would work.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 31, 2018, 02:13:54 PM
My pleasure. The hornet is one complex bird. We need to all stick together if we're going to get her off the ground!
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Grim.Reaper on May 31, 2018, 05:18:09 PM
I knew this game would be tough for me, but I should become an ace now that my book has arrived on fighter tactics:)

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/513P2687GSL._SY90_.jpg)

People say this is supposed to be one of the best, let's see if it can really help someone that absolutely knows nothing about tactics!
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Toonces on May 31, 2018, 05:33:13 PM
^ Absolutely fantastic book and a must read for internet fighter pilot enthusiasts.

It's also just plain interesting in and of itself, even if you aren't a computer fighter pilot nerd.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 31, 2018, 06:32:50 PM
I've had that book for nearly 2 decades. One of my favorites.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: mbar on June 01, 2018, 08:18:51 AM
Started reading the PDF yesterday. The pilot quotes are gold.

Started doing the start up tutorial and did not even make it past starting left and right engines. Between real life interruptions, struggling with TrackIR and  bifocals, and a laptop keyboard (yeah I know). But found some +3.0 reading glasses and alternate key-binds for engine idle and I'm pressing forward.  :nerd:
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 02, 2018, 08:45:07 AM
Quite comfortable with cold start, take-off, ADF, TCN and WPT navigation...next comes weapons.

The Hornet is awesome. Its drawn me into DCS like no other module before it really, although I did go through A-10 and Black Shark phases. Now, with more terrain diversity, the Hornet and a number of other exciting aircraft on the horizon, there is more reason to invest serious time into DCS than ever before.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: jomni on June 02, 2018, 08:48:42 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on June 02, 2018, 08:45:07 AM
Quite comfortable with cold start, take-off, ADF, TCN and WPT navigation...next comes weapons.

The Hornet is awesome. Its drawn me into DCS like no other module before it really, although I did go through A-10 and Black Shark phases. Now, with more terrain diversity, the Hornet and a number of other exciting aircraft on the horizon, there is more reason to invest serious time into DCS than ever before.

Hornet seems to be a great choice as it has the all high-tech A-A and A-G weapons as opposed to the dedicated ground attack aircraft that DCS started with, the outdated Cold War planes and trainers, and the simplified FC planes.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Yskonyn on June 02, 2018, 01:54:35 PM
For sure she's be all the hawtness the boys will talk about for quite some time in DCS world, or dare I say combat sim world!
With several theatres now present she will start giving the Falcon boys a run for their money by all estimation.
On top of that she's probably be the cover girl for all things marketing concerning DCS.
Quite the game changer.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on June 03, 2018, 02:26:12 PM
Ok. So I started off directly in line with the runway. I know. I lowered my gear with the beast going too fast.

But I think the touchdown was super smooth.

Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Stryker07 on June 03, 2018, 06:51:17 PM
I am thinking it's time to take the DCS plunge, not entirely new to the series as I played FC2 and LOMAC before, but this here Hornet has got me by the heart strings.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on June 04, 2018, 05:12:18 AM
I agree with JH - for some reason, I'm "feeling" DCS more than I ever have done with this bird.

I don't know why - the A-10 and the Harrier should really have done it for me - and I do love them both - but there's something about this baby that makes DCS alive.

I'd like to say it's the carrier ops - but a) I haven't tried them with this and b) those are available with the Harrier.

So I don't know what it is - but I've been working all weekend on this baby.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 04, 2018, 06:19:06 AM
^me too. I spent hours with the Hornet this weekend. I've never done that with any DCS module before. Lots of cold start and general flight training, a couple carrier launches and some weapons practice with rockets and guns.

It's a very alluring aircraft to begin with and belsimtek did such a fantastic job recreating it. I really can't recommend it enough. If I could only have one module, this would be it.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: mbar on June 04, 2018, 08:00:01 AM
I've been working on configuring my HOTAS and the mission editor. I was feeling a bit confused with just what I really needed to map to the HOTAS. Just trying to get to a point to fire the cannon was frustrating. But setting it all down and doing some spring cleaning to clear my head and I came back to it and things began to click. I've been away from the DCS game for a couple of years but I am enjoying coming back and putzing around with this F/A-18 module.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 04, 2018, 08:48:27 AM
Quote from: mbar on June 04, 2018, 08:00:01 AM
I've been working on configuring my HOTAS and the mission editor. I was feeling a bit confused with just what I really needed to map to the HOTAS. Just trying to get to a point to fire the cannon was frustrating. But setting it all down and doing some spring cleaning to clear my head and I came back to it and things began to click. I've been away from the DCS game for a couple of years but I am enjoying coming back and putzing around with this F/A-18 module.

I tend to configure on an as needed basis. I always start with my axis commands. Roll, pitch, yaw, throttle and then start mapping from there...trim, TDC, countermeasures, weapon release, etc. I find it is much more manageable to configure if I do it in chunks, and only when the control is actually needed for whatever aspect of the sim I am learning or using.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Yskonyn on June 04, 2018, 09:35:43 AM
+1 I handle that the same way. It gets you in the action quickest. :)
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: mbar on June 04, 2018, 10:53:48 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on June 04, 2018, 08:48:27 AM
I tend to configure on an as needed basis. I always start with my axis commands. Roll, pitch, yaw, throttle and then start mapping from there...trim, TDC, countermeasures, weapon release, etc. I find it is much more manageable to configure if I do it in chunks, and only when the control is actually needed for whatever aspect of the sim I am learning or using.

Sound advice and order of priority.  O0
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on June 04, 2018, 12:08:01 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on June 04, 2018, 08:48:27 AM
Quote from: mbar on June 04, 2018, 08:00:01 AM
I've been working on configuring my HOTAS and the mission editor. I was feeling a bit confused with just what I really needed to map to the HOTAS. Just trying to get to a point to fire the cannon was frustrating. But setting it all down and doing some spring cleaning to clear my head and I came back to it and things began to click. I've been away from the DCS game for a couple of years but I am enjoying coming back and putzing around with this F/A-18 module.

I tend to configure on an as needed basis. I always start with my axis commands. Roll, pitch, yaw, throttle and then start mapping from there...trim, TDC, countermeasures, weapon release, etc. I find it is much more manageable to configure if I do it in chunks, and only when the control is actually needed for whatever aspect of the sim I am learning or using.

Quote from: Yskonyn on June 04, 2018, 09:35:43 AM
+1 I handle that the same way. It gets you in the action quickest. :)

+1 - the best way. Made all the easier by allowing you to do so whilst flying - which isn't always the case in games
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: jomni on June 04, 2018, 05:32:06 PM
There's "less" to configure with a clickable cockpit as you can leave some commands unmapped. I tend to look around and see what functions the real-life HOTAS has and map as close as possible.

So basically, flight, weapons, targeting, countermeasures go to HOTAS.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on June 05, 2018, 08:36:18 AM
This might be a general DCS question as opposed to the F/A-18

When I select the comms and contact ATC, the selections are all black. I can request startup, but I won't hear anything. I can request taxi - but I won't hear anything. Eventually when I get to the runway edge and request take off, I'll get a response...but the reason I ask this is because I was at the wrong end of the runway (is there generally a runway take off direction? I always thought it was opposite to landing).

I'll admit here and now I'm not fully able to work the comms system - not knowing how to set channel. I was watching a vid about it last night, but I still wasn't able to do it.

At what point are you able to set comms and contact the tower? The startup procedure has the comms setup a few steps in but you've already started your startup procedure - so what's the point in contacting the tower to ask them to allow you to start up?

O0
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Toonces on June 05, 2018, 02:59:31 PM
You usually both take off and land into the wind, so they'll share the same runway direction if there is only one runway.  If there are more than one runway, sometimes one will be for takeoff and one landing, but either way you'll want to avoid a tailwind.

Not sure on the engine start ATC thingy.  I don't think I ever had to contact a tower to get permission to start engines.  However, if that's something you do in DCS, you should have the ability to use the radios once you get electrical power on the airplane; either through an auxiliary power unit (APU) or an external power source like an electrical cart.  I'm not sure which the Hornet uses.  But once you have electricity you can dial up the right frequency and do whatever you have to do comms-wise.  I haven't played DCS in years so I don't know how all this is modeled in game.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 05, 2018, 03:12:28 PM
Quote from: Toonces on June 05, 2018, 02:59:31 PM
You usually both take off and land into the wind, so they'll share the same runway direction if there is only one runway.  If there are more than one runway, sometimes one will be for takeoff and one landing, but either way you'll want to avoid a tailwind.

Not sure on the engine start ATC thingy.  I don't think I ever had to contact a tower to get permission to start engines.  However, if that's something you do in DCS, you should have the ability to use the radios once you get electrical power on the airplane; either through an auxiliary power unit (APU) or an external power source like an electrical cart.  I'm not sure which the Hornet uses.  But once you have electricity you can dial up the right frequency and do whatever you have to do comms-wise.  I haven't played DCS in years so I don't know how all this is modeled in game.

I get so turned on listening to a real military aviator talk.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on June 05, 2018, 03:26:24 PM
Quote from: Toonces on June 05, 2018, 02:59:31 PM
You usually both take off and land into the wind, so they'll share the same runway direction if there is only one runway.  If there are more than one runway, sometimes one will be for takeoff and one landing, but either way you'll want to avoid a tailwind.

Not sure on the engine start ATC thingy.  I don't think I ever had to contact a tower to get permission to start engines.  However, if that's something you do in DCS, you should have the ability to use the radios once you get electrical power on the airplane; either through an auxiliary power unit (APU) or an external power source like an electrical cart.  I'm not sure which the Hornet uses.  But once you have electricity you can dial up the right frequency and do whatever you have to do comms-wise.  I haven't played DCS in years so I don't know how all this is modeled in game.
Thanks. That's what I thought (take off and landing) but I'm sure Nellis directed me to take off from 03R last night - and that is the one which has the ILS cone but at the other end (21L). It's possible they suggested 03L - but either way it was 03 which is against the landing direction.

You don't have to contact tower for startup etc - but it's available as an option under ATC menu. In order to taxi to the correct runway (assigned by ATC), I should request taxi - so I just wanted to check when I can contact. You mentioned APU and ground power (which is available in DCS) which are both options...though the APU is several steps (4?) into startup...so I wondered if that was too late.

I'll go through some comms stuff to see what I can come up with.

Thanks for the reply.

What did/do you fly?
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Toonces on June 05, 2018, 03:33:10 PM
I flew the laziest airplane in the U.S. Navy.

It's quite possible to land opposite the ILS, it's called a back course localizer approach.  Check this:  http://www.boldmethod.com/learn-to-fly/systems/how-to-fly-a-localizer-back-course-approach/

But you shouldn't be taking off or landing with the wind.  You probably know this, but doing either with the wind behind you increases your ground speed, and consequently your takeoff/landing distance which is never a good thing. 

If your takeoff speed is 170kt, with a 20kt headwind you're actually moving 150kt over ground when you rotate; conversely with a tailwind you're moving 190kt at rotate.  So you're just eating up extra runway that you might need if you have some reason to abort your takeoff run; a flat tire, bird strike, engine malfunction, etc.

Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on June 05, 2018, 03:39:40 PM
Cool. Thanks  O0

What was the laziest airplane in the navy?  ??? You can tell me. I was in the army and signed the official secrets act and everything  ;D
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: bob48 on June 05, 2018, 03:45:55 PM
^P3 Orion?
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Toonces on June 05, 2018, 03:49:08 PM
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: bob48 on June 05, 2018, 03:52:50 PM
We used to have a friend who flew Nimrods, and he had some interesting stories to tell about that aircraft.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on June 05, 2018, 04:00:26 PM
Sweet.

Why is it called the laziest aircraft?
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Toonces on June 05, 2018, 04:04:00 PM
I don't want to derail Jarhead's excellent thread.  We'll find somewhere else to tell war stories.

On topic, how well are the carrier ops modeled?  How has the F/A-18 release impacted online play?
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Yskonyn on June 05, 2018, 04:19:23 PM
JD, unless you have 'Easy Communications' enabled in the options, you will have to mind the radios to be able to communicate with other stations.
Not only do you need to have the correct frequency dialed in, but also need to use the proper radio to send.

The fwd slash key brings up the comms menu by default, but I still haven't figured out which means of comms this is because most of the time my inputs don't do anything here. Save for the ground crew menu, so I suspect its either the intercom, maintenance or yelling voice (if canopy open) being simulated here.

For contacting the tower you will need to either use the VHF or UHF comms switch.

UHF usually works on emergency power (battery only) already.

Re: carrier ops
The carrier has a working deck, as in several aircraft can maneuver, be launched and be recovered at the same time. I am not sure if the lifts work yet, but I am pretty certain it was a planned feature.
There are four wires, all modelled, so realistic bolters can happen.
The 'ball' indicator works.
I don't know what else you would want to know?

As for the MP; there is no real inpact yet as the module is in open beta and misses a lot of functionality still. Radar is not finished. No AMRAAMs yet, etc.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Toonces on June 05, 2018, 04:37:35 PM
Well, things like if the pitching and rolling of the deck is simulated, the ball (which you answered), LSO comms, things like that.

Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: WYBaugh on June 05, 2018, 08:12:04 PM
Toonces, were you ever stationed at NAS JAX?
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Yskonyn on June 06, 2018, 06:01:00 AM
Quote from: Toonces on June 05, 2018, 04:37:35 PM
Well, things like if the pitching and rolling of the deck is simulated, the ball (which you answered), LSO comms, things like that.

Sea state is modelled in DCS, but I am not sure the vessel reacts to that yet. I am sure about it being a planned feature though.

ATC (and LSO) comms will see a big overhaul in a future version. At the moment its the same basic shit that has been in since Flaming Cliffs. Not much.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 06, 2018, 06:40:33 AM
Anyone have any info on optimal settings for conventional bombs? How should fuse, drag, etc. options be set for the various munitions, like Mk82s, CBUs, etc.?

I tried some CCIP target practice yesterday and my rockeyes were coming off the rails well, but didn't seem to be detonating with the proper effect. My Mk82s were also landing on target, but weren't very effective either. Not much of a BOOM.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on June 06, 2018, 07:24:55 AM
I haven't progressed to dropping ordinance yet - sorry

Maybe this will help?

Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Toonces on June 06, 2018, 07:33:27 AM
@ Yassy - that's unfortunate about the sea state modeling and comms.  I know that modeling carrier operations was one of the big things that ED had in store for them when they decided on the Hornet.  I'm glad the went with what they have rather than holding off on releasing the Hornet; it seems like a lot of folks are really enjoying it.  I'm going to have to check out some videos here at some point.  Right now I have all this stuff on hold until I finish my relocation and get my rig reconfigured at the new house...a couple more months at least.

@ Wybough - yes, I was in VP-30 for qualification in the P-3.  I haven't made it back to Jax since.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Yskonyn on June 06, 2018, 07:56:00 AM
Correction on the sea state reaction of the carrier: aparently my wingmates have corrected me and claim the carrier definately is moving on the waves. 👌🏻
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Nefaro on June 06, 2018, 10:51:05 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on June 06, 2018, 06:40:33 AM
Anyone have any info on optimal settings for conventional bombs? How should fuse, drag, etc. options be set for the various munitions, like Mk82s, CBUs, etc.?

I tried some CCIP target practice yesterday and my rockeyes were coming off the rails well, but didn't seem to be detonating with the proper effect. My Mk82s were also landing on target, but weren't very effective either. Not much of a BOOM.

DCS' explosions are underwhelming because:

1)  Fragmentation isn't properly modeled.  I keep hearing that bomb frag isn't implemented at all.

2)  The effective overpressure wave area seems a bit smaller than it probably should be regarding soft targets.


As for bomb settings, just arm Nose & Tail fuses for everything.  The rest is preference and attack profile related.

I've also heard that Rockeyes were extra broken, back when I was trying to drop them from the Mirage and asked some people why they were so ineffective.  Guess they still haven't fixed them..?

Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 06, 2018, 10:57:02 AM
Quote from: Nefaro on June 06, 2018, 10:51:05 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on June 06, 2018, 06:40:33 AM
Anyone have any info on optimal settings for conventional bombs? How should fuse, drag, etc. options be set for the various munitions, like Mk82s, CBUs, etc.?

I tried some CCIP target practice yesterday and my rockeyes were coming off the rails well, but didn't seem to be detonating with the proper effect. My Mk82s were also landing on target, but weren't very effective either. Not much of a BOOM.

DCS' explosions are underwhelming because:

1)  Fragmentation isn't properly modeled.  I keep hearing that bomb frag isn't implemented at all.

2)  The effective overpressure wave area seems a bit smaller than it probably should be regarding soft targets.


As for bomb settings, just arm Nose & Tail fuses for everything.  The rest is preference and attack profile related.

I've also heard that Rockeyes were extra broken, back when I was trying to drop them from the Mirage and asked some people why they were so ineffective.  Guess they still haven't fixed them..?

The fuse and arming options in the Hornet are more complex. There are menus for mechanical and electronic fuses and then various options for each. I need data on which type of fuse each weapon system has. This data is not in the EA manual.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Yskonyn on June 06, 2018, 11:24:23 AM
If its not in the EA manual then its a safe bet it isnt implemented yet. Perhaps the options show up on the DDI but lots of stuff isnt 'plugged in' yet.

As for theory on the settings. Check out the 476th vFG's Weapon Facts sheets Freely downloadable from their site.
http://www.476vfightergroup.com/downloads.php
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 06, 2018, 11:32:25 AM
Quote from: Yskonyn on June 06, 2018, 11:24:23 AM
If its not in the EA manual then its a safe bet it isnt implemented yet. Perhaps the options show up on the DDI but lots of stuff isnt 'plugged in' yet.

As for theory on the settings. Check out the 476th vFG's Weapon Facts sheets Freely downloadable from their site.
http://www.476vfightergroup.com/downloads.php

Sweet! Thanks for the link.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 08, 2018, 09:39:12 PM
JD...have you seen this thread? I think it will solve your comms problem.

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=211683 (https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=211683)

Apparently, easy comms are bugged presently. "\" doesn't work in the air. Must use Comm1 and Comm2 commands... "RALT+\" and "RCTRL+\"
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Yskonyn on June 09, 2018, 02:21:31 AM
Let me add that the Carrier's comms are not functional yet either.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on June 09, 2018, 04:55:36 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on June 08, 2018, 09:39:12 PM
JD...have you seen this thread? I think it will solve your comms problem.

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=211683 (https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=211683)

Apparently, easy comms are bugged presently. "\" doesn't work in the air. Must use Comm1 and Comm2 commands... "RALT+\" and "RCTRL+\"
No I haven't. I'll give it a look thanks.

Another issue I noticed before is some keys need remapping. A prime (and relevant) example is comms. The key bind for the radio is \ - however, it doesn't work on my system and when I go in to check the mapping, and press the \ key, it puts OEM102 in the box.

I'm going a-scouting to see if there's a fix for this.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Yskonyn on June 09, 2018, 09:21:23 AM
That is directly related to easy comms.
\ is the easy comms radio key, or when not using radio comms its the Intercom / Voice key.
Easy comms aparently is bugged atm, so thats why \ doesnt do anything.
Also, don't expect any reply from the Carrier; its comms arent workingeither.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Pete Dero on June 10, 2018, 03:24:34 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on June 09, 2018, 04:55:36 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on June 08, 2018, 09:39:12 PM
JD...have you seen this thread? I think it will solve your comms problem.

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=211683 (https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=211683)

Apparently, easy comms are bugged presently. "\" doesn't work in the air. Must use Comm1 and Comm2 commands... "RALT+\" and "RCTRL+\"
No I haven't. I'll give it a look thanks.

Another issue I noticed before is some keys need remapping. A prime (and relevant) example is comms. The key bind for the radio is \ - however, it doesn't work on my system and when I go in to check the mapping, and press the \ key, it puts OEM102 in the box.

I'm going a-scouting to see if there's a fix for this.

This might help a bit



Rest of the tutorial playlist : https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3kOAM2N1YJc5x-z99XdX-XxWg4I0Of-a
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 10, 2018, 06:49:21 PM
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on June 11, 2018, 02:11:16 AM
Thanks Pete and JH  O0

I didn't get any gaming done at all this weekend so I didn't get to check out comms. Hopefully this week.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Nefaro on June 11, 2018, 07:23:21 PM
By the time the F-18 is finished, and you guys have fingered it all out, I can just come pick your brains on all the quirks.   :))   :bd:
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on June 12, 2018, 11:55:38 AM
And by then, we'll have moved onto the Tomcat  O0
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: mbar on June 12, 2018, 12:51:33 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on June 12, 2018, 11:55:38 AM
And by then, we'll have moved onto the Tomcat  O0

Shooting six AIM-54 Phoenix missiles at range at multiple targets.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 12, 2018, 01:16:57 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on June 12, 2018, 11:55:38 AM
And by then, we'll have moved onto the Tomcat  O0

Which means we will have totally forgotten how to fly the F/A-18C... :uglystupid2:
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Pete Dero on June 12, 2018, 01:32:27 PM
Recommendation by Real And Simulated Wars (http://kriegsimulation.blogspot.com/)

DCS F/A-18C. Looking for a great book with plenty of passages about how it's done in real life?

https://www.amazon.com/Bogeys-Bandits-Making-Fighter-Pilot-ebook/dp/B005SHNO4E/ref=pd_sim_351_7?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=BTTBW1CZQF39VW6P05VT

In Bogeys and Bandits, Robert Gandt takes readers on a thrilling ride in the FA-18 Hornet, one of the fastest, sleekest, and deadliest aircraft in the world. Gandt lived and worked with several pilots learning to fly the Hornet: the identical twins from Middle America; the computer nerd with a penchant for speed; the grandson of a Tuskegee Airman, trying to live up to a proud legacy; and two women dealing with the post-Tailhook world of the Navy. Gandt weaves superb technological details of the Hornet and an insider's look at the highly demanding training program with portraits of the day-to-day lives of these very real people aspiring to fulfill a dream. Bogeys and Bandits will hold readers breathless as they soar through the skies in the cockpit of the fastest and deadliest fighter plane in the world.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on June 12, 2018, 04:20:57 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on June 12, 2018, 01:16:57 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on June 12, 2018, 11:55:38 AM
And by then, we'll have moved onto the Tomcat  O0

Which means we will have totally forgotten how to fly the F/A-18C... :uglystupid2:
I know. Such is the life of a spoiled simulation pilot.

I love the hornet - like you, it's grabbed me right in and I was surprised by that. I thought that would be done by the Harrier. But I can't wait to see how the Tomcat turns out.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 12, 2018, 04:26:05 PM
^Tomcat was my favorite aircraft growing up. Its what captured my heart and got me obsessed with naval aviation. It would have been a dream to pilot one...

Anyway, yes. I'm really looking forward to it too. If you're interested, and want something to hold you over, a Somalia theater was recently released for Falcon BMS and I believe there is a nicely improved F-14A or B modeled. Of course, avionics are still based off of the Viper, but the pit and exterior models are all Tomcat. 
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on June 12, 2018, 04:48:34 PM
Well - it's a ways away I'm sure. Plenty of Hornet action between now and then.

The sad thing is - like you - I've got most of the aircraft they've sold (apart from WWII) and as much as I really liked them, you just move onto the the next. I keep hoping something will stick. It may be the Hornet. It could be the Tomcat. It might even be something further on.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: mikeck on June 12, 2018, 07:07:03 PM
Quote from: mbar on June 12, 2018, 12:51:33 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on June 12, 2018, 11:55:38 AM
And by then, we'll have moved onto the Tomcat  O0

Shooting six AIM-54 Phoenix missiles at range at multiple targets.

And having 4 of them fail to ignite and plummet to the ground.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 12, 2018, 07:24:15 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on June 12, 2018, 04:48:34 PM
Well - it's a ways away I'm sure. Plenty of Hornet action between now and then.

The sad thing is - like you - I've got most of the aircraft they've sold (apart from WWII) and as much as I really liked them, you just move onto the the next. I keep hoping something will stick. It may be the Hornet. It could be the Tomcat. It might even be something further on.

Have you given the Mirage a look? I fired it up and flew around the Persian Gulf while waiting for the Hornet and I was really impressed with its speed and power. She was really fun to zip around in...
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Nefaro on June 12, 2018, 07:41:37 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on June 12, 2018, 01:16:57 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on June 12, 2018, 11:55:38 AM
And by then, we'll have moved onto the Tomcat  O0

Which means we will have totally forgotten how to fly the F/A-18C... :uglystupid2:

Dammit.

Need a new plan.  :nerd:
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Nefaro on June 12, 2018, 07:45:00 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on June 12, 2018, 07:24:15 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on June 12, 2018, 04:48:34 PM
Well - it's a ways away I'm sure. Plenty of Hornet action between now and then.

The sad thing is - like you - I've got most of the aircraft they've sold (apart from WWII) and as much as I really liked them, you just move onto the the next. I keep hoping something will stick. It may be the Hornet. It could be the Tomcat. It might even be something further on.

Have you given the Mirage a look? I fired it up and flew around the Persian Gulf while waiting for the Hornet and I was really impressed with its speed and power. She was really fun to zip around in...

The Mirage is easy to learn for a 4th Gen fully modeled DCS fighter. 

I found the cockpit and HUD relatively easy to get accustomed to - more minimalist.  Much fun to fly as well, although it's AAMs aren't quite as capable as the FC3 aircraft.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: JudgeDredd on June 13, 2018, 12:11:14 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on June 12, 2018, 07:24:15 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on June 12, 2018, 04:48:34 PM
Well - it's a ways away I'm sure. Plenty of Hornet action between now and then.

The sad thing is - like you - I've got most of the aircraft they've sold (apart from WWII) and as much as I really liked them, you just move onto the the next. I keep hoping something will stick. It may be the Hornet. It could be the Tomcat. It might even be something further on.

Have you given the Mirage a look? I fired it up and flew around the Persian Gulf while waiting for the Hornet and I was really impressed with its speed and power. She was really fun to zip around in...
Tep - beautiful aircraft and as Nef said, fairly easy to grab a hold of.

That and the Harrier were the two I managed to get into quite well with a relatively easy startup process.

Still can't see myself going back though once I start digging around in the bug.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 14, 2018, 09:47:08 PM
Still loving this aircraft. It's pretty much all I am playing. I've never been so engrossed in a flight sim that it excluded play with other games.

I just tore it up around Dubai with rockets, bombs and guns. So much fun.

I'm alternating between flying with trackIR and VR headset. I really love flying in VR, but it makes using the cockpit difficult. I've assigned most of the critical keys to the HOTAS, but I find myself still wanting to click buttons in the pit.

Anyway, best module ever.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Nefaro on June 14, 2018, 10:31:48 PM
I don't think I'll be attempting VR until more tech is advanced to support such things & well.  Such as 'mouse gloves' for punching buttons in the cockpit. 

Still a ways to go regarding peripherals and software refinement.  :nerd:
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: mbar on June 22, 2018, 02:42:12 PM
Ended up in the drink on my first CASE. Stuck the landing on the second try. That has me pumped! Could not get nose wheel steering to work at all afterward though. Wings up, catch bar up. I must have broke something.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: mbar on June 27, 2018, 08:22:11 AM
F/A-18 Pilot Gives Virtual Flyers Highly Detailed Explanation Of How To Land On A Carrier

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/21790/f-a-18-pilot-gives-incredibly-detailed-instructions-on-how-to-actually-land-on-a-carrier (http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/21790/f-a-18-pilot-gives-incredibly-detailed-instructions-on-how-to-actually-land-on-a-carrier)
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: RyanE on June 27, 2018, 10:26:15 AM
That is one of the coolest interviews I have ever seen. I am not if I have ever seen someone that close to a platform talk that much about the comparable flight sim experience on modern jets.

My friend who was a Harrier and Hornet flyer never really got into flight sims.  He used to watch me flight simming and laugh at how unrealistic and crazy it was.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: mirth on June 27, 2018, 11:30:39 AM
Great interview.
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Grim.Reaper on September 01, 2018, 06:00:38 PM
Was at local airshow today and the blue angels were there, which fly the hornets.  Plus, a number of hornets displayed throughout the show.  Had a chance to be in the front row to watch the pilots as they did their startup routines which was very cool....made me think about DCS Hornet and wanting to go home and play it:)
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Jarhead0331 on September 01, 2018, 06:38:08 PM
^pics!?
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Grim.Reaper on September 01, 2018, 06:50:04 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on September 01, 2018, 06:38:08 PM
^pics!?

Just a couple from the show....its funny, I was so much in awe of the startup routine, checking my camera I have zero of the blue angels:(  Also, they had a handful of A-10's, those things are just awesome to see up close!

(https://i.imgur.com/HLgzbhR.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/DDbR7lY.png)
Title: Re: DCS F/A-18C
Post by: Destraex on September 01, 2018, 08:28:50 PM
Quote from: mbar on June 27, 2018, 08:22:11 AM
F/A-18 Pilot Gives Virtual Flyers Highly Detailed Explanation Of How To Land On A Carrier

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/21790/f-a-18-pilot-gives-incredibly-detailed-instructions-on-how-to-actually-land-on-a-carrier (http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/21790/f-a-18-pilot-gives-incredibly-detailed-instructions-on-how-to-actually-land-on-a-carrier)
Should prove interesting to read.
At first I thought it was not on dcs but real. I know the Chinese and some other countries are still mastering the carrier efficiencies. So let's give em a tutorial. It really amazes me what is free and available from primary sources these days. But I guess it certainly ain't a national secret.
I am sure after watching and reading this material I will be inspired and have to resist the call of the dcs hornet.