Total War: THREE KINGDOMS In-Engine Trailer - Reveals plans for non-historical c

[Destraex]

It would be interesting indeed if the mongols invented the trebuchet. Because they initially had no engineers and had to get Chinese ones to build siege engines. Which would mean that the Chinese could have invented the trebuchet.

One unrealistic thing I always wanted fixed with total war games that were set in the dark ages or medieval period. Was that a lot of units carried a variety of weapons. Most of not all would have had a spear or pole weapon I would think. But total war would have you believe that guys who could afford a sword just carried s sword. But total war love their Rock Paper Scissors so we have to put up with fantasy weapon configurations for units. In fact now that's I think about it most wargames separate units into weapon groups to make it easier to calculate damage and defence.

I'd love to see a game that does things properly and focuses more on weapon and armour quality of a unit as well as training and cohesiveness. What formations and moves they can pull off. The game would have units able to form giant formations by locking in with the unit next to them if the army was capable of such things. You would be able to see the weapon variety visually. A lot of units would have the majority equipped with one main type of weapon. There may indeed be specialist units with one weapon type. But most units would probably have spear and shield with a mix of secondary weapons at least for the dark ages. Spears would break on individual men and they may draw secondary or perhaps fall to the rear of the formation depending on training. Shields may sunder as well. Weight and pushing would really matter. Depth of ranks modelled. You would however have the option with specialist units to strip them down to light raiding configuration without their armour. But don't get caught. Same would go for the March, less armour for travelling unless you want to be slower to a crawl.

Think of all the things total war could model but does not "because fun" these days. For total war history is just s theme. I need a new wargame with all the goodies total war has that makes an effort to simulate warfare in whatever age it depicts. No lazy strategy layer mechanics either.

With original total Wars I thought their were technical limitations but by now we know they were just cheesing it. So much so that now a historical game is an afterthought, a secondary mode.

[Toonces]

 ::)

[Philippe]

Just to be clear, the Mongols didn't invent the counter-weight trebuchet. 

The non-Chinese version was probably the brainchild of a Persian, Arab, or Byzantine engineer, but spread quickly because everyone could see what a good idea it was,  and it was easy to understand why it worked.

The wiki articles on mangonels and trebuchets are worth reading.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trebuchet

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mangonel

[jomni]

Hero System... looks like it's shaping up to be a "Human Resources Managment Game" like Koei titles.

[Sir Slash]

I saw that and had the same feeling. Something a little different in a TW title would be welcome but I still want to be able fight wars and build things-- manage my empire. Have to put this one on the, 'Wait & See' list.

[Grim.Reaper]

i am easily fooled so this is actually looking very good to me:). no doubt a first day or very close to that purchase for me.

[MengJiao]

i am easily fooled so this is actually looking very good to me:). no doubt a first day or very close to that purchase for me.

  I'm resigned to the fact that I buy every TW and for many of them I just suffer the pangs of vague and mostly bored annoyance -- but some I like a lot (Fall of the guys with swords)
and Rome II for example

[Grim.Reaper]

i am easily fooled so this is actually looking very good to me:). no doubt a first day or very close to that purchase for me.

  I'm resigned to the fact that I buy every TW and for many of them I just suffer the pangs of vague and mostly bored annoyance -- but some I like a lot (Fall of the guys with swords)
and Rome II for example

Yep, I have bought them all....although I haven't really ever been bored with them, I often get overwhelmed on how to manage everything and understand how it all has an impact.....love the battles as well, but find it near impossible to control all the troops in real-time, find myself fixated on watching the coolness, and forgetting to watch the rest of the battle.  I do wish they would introduce some more battle management options such as giving high level directions without having to micro manage.  I know they have some AI stuff, but not sure enough.

Regardless, I'll be buying to add to my collection:)

[Gusington]

Fall of the Guys with the Swords FTW!

[Sir Slash]

That's why you should NEVER run with them in your hand, you might fall. And hurt yourself.   :nerd:

[Gusington]

Like drinking and driving?

[Sir Slash]

Like drinking and driving with sharp scissors in your hand.  :hide:

[MengJiao]

Like drinking and driving with sharp scissors in your hand.  :hide:

  Like drinking and driving with a sword while somebody shoots a gatling gun at you.

[Grim.Reaper]

Delayed to May 23

[Gusington]

As I learn more about it I get less excited, I have to be honest. And you know there is no bigger TW fan than me. It's just not doing it for me in the previews.