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Tabletop Gaming, Models, and Minis => Wargaming => Topic started by: Bison on March 20, 2017, 08:40:33 AM

Title: Spring Cleaning the Collection
Post by: Bison on March 20, 2017, 08:40:33 AM
Well I'm getting ready to cull some chaff out of my collection.  Mostly I'm going to be ditching several expansion boxes, because they are empty or only contain an ill suited inserts.  I pains me to get rid of them but its time.  The contents can be fit into the original box.  It's not a lot.

The really painful part is I need to make a decision on Panzer Blitz and Panzer Leader.  I have them mostly out of nostalgia, but to be honest the games are in rough shape.  The boxes are heavily damaged and some of the corners are held together with duct tape.  A number of the counters are missing and replaced with homemade ones.  I think I'm just going to toss them in the garbage, but it seems like blasphemy. 

I've also put a few games on the block to move to a new home.  Lock 'N Load Band of Heroes and MMP's South Mountain for sure.  I wanted to like the games, but I don't.  LNL's rulebook is an absolute nightmare to read and figure out the game and I just don't like MMP RSS gameplay.  There are a few others but I'm going to vendor those at goodwill.  Not sure what to do with these two yet. 

No point here just a collection of random thoughts as I go through the process.
Title: Re: Spring Cleaning the Collection
Post by: mirth on March 20, 2017, 08:45:57 AM
Quote from: Bison on March 20, 2017, 08:40:33 AM
The really painful part is I need to make a decision on Panzer Blitz and Panzer Leader.  I have them mostly out of nostalgia, but to be honest the games are in rough shape.  The boxes are heavily damaged and some of the corners are held together with duct tape.  A number of the counters are missing and replaced with homemade ones.  I think I'm just going to toss them in the garbage, but it seems like blasphemy. 

You can't just through them in the trash!  :o At least take them to Goodwill or something.
Title: Re: Spring Cleaning the Collection
Post by: Bison on March 20, 2017, 08:48:38 AM
Dropping them off at the DAV or Goodwill will most likely be what I'll do with several games including those two.  I consider it the gaming butterfly effect.  Maybe just maybe it'll create a disturbance in the air that generates a new gamer or two. 
Title: Re: Spring Cleaning the Collection
Post by: Bison on March 20, 2017, 08:52:36 AM
I'd like to give or trade LNL and South Mountain to someone, but I think I might just donate those two too.
Title: Re: Spring Cleaning the Collection
Post by: mirth on March 20, 2017, 08:57:21 AM
Too bad South Mountain wasn't your thing. It's a beautiful looking game.
Title: Re: Spring Cleaning the Collection
Post by: Bison on March 20, 2017, 09:02:09 AM
Yeah.  I really wanted to like it too, but alas the rules are a mess and the order system is a pain in the ass.
Title: Re: Spring Cleaning the Collection
Post by: bayonetbrant on March 20, 2017, 10:33:52 AM
there's a few sites online that'll take really beat up copies of games and strip them for parts for people who are looking for that 1 random mapboard to replace the one that the kids accidentally spilled juice on
Title: Re: Spring Cleaning the Collection
Post by: Pinetree on March 23, 2017, 01:10:34 AM
Quote from: Bison on March 20, 2017, 09:02:09 AM
Yeah.  I really wanted to like it too, but alas the rules are a mess and the order system is a pain in the ass.
Have you tried the LoB rules? They're compatible with RSS.
Title: Re: Spring Cleaning the Collection
Post by: GJK on March 23, 2017, 03:37:14 PM
Was thinking the same thing that Pinetree was.  Try it with LoB rules (http://www.gamersarchive.net/thegamers/archive/rss.htm).  RSS had some cool things but it's very fiddly.  Dean has that cleaned up now with LoB.
Title: Re: Spring Cleaning the Collection
Post by: egg_salad on March 23, 2017, 04:56:57 PM
Agreed, LoB is a great system.
Title: Re: Spring Cleaning the Collection
Post by: Bison on March 23, 2017, 05:46:06 PM
I'd actually considered None but Heroes when I picked up South Mountain, but the actual MMP guys convinced me that South Mountain was a better intro game.  /sigh/ So much for public relations.
Title: Re: Spring Cleaning the Collection
Post by: mirth on March 23, 2017, 05:55:56 PM
I don't see South Mountain as an intro game.
Title: Re: Spring Cleaning the Collection
Post by: Bison on March 23, 2017, 10:31:37 PM
In terms of units on the map, it has the smallest foot print. The rational is that fewer units, fewer orders and movement, etc...so its a gentler introduction into the system.  Not an intro game as in something for new gamers to pick up and play.
Title: Re: Spring Cleaning the Collection
Post by: GJK on March 24, 2017, 06:47:45 AM
Someone at MMP suggested South Mountain?  When LoB was released and S. Mountain is an RSS game?  Nah, somebody misled you.  The *only* advantage that I see to going with S. Mountain instead is that you can get it for dirt cheap and it's easily obtainable which is probably the reason why it was suggested to you.


NBH has the "Cornfield" scenario which is a small section of one map with few units and orders are pre-set so I don't know how much of an easier intro to the system there is than that.  S. Mountain though has a single map and the scenario is very interesting- a precursor to the Antietam battle with Hill getting into a tussle with the "Iron" brigade and "Fighting Joe" Hooker.  It makes for an interesting situation to game but you have to enjoy the game system that you use to do that gaming with of course and if RSS/LoB isn't it for you, then it's not going to be much fun for you.
Title: Re: Spring Cleaning the Collection
Post by: Bison on March 24, 2017, 01:22:21 PM
Yeah that makes sense too GJK.  Anyway the point is I don't really like the games mechanics too much.  I think the order system is cool in principle and would really shine in a multi-player setting, but otherwise it just becomes a lot of bookkeeping in my opinion.
Title: Re: Spring Cleaning the Collection
Post by: Bison on March 24, 2017, 01:24:51 PM
I'm also trying to decide what to do with my expansion boxes.  I hate to throw them out, because I know that people are actually looking for the boxes or inserts.  But they are just space taker uppers for me at the moment.
Title: Re: Spring Cleaning the Collection
Post by: Nefaro on March 25, 2017, 10:56:39 AM
Quote from: Bison on March 24, 2017, 01:24:51 PM
I'm also trying to decide what to do with my expansion boxes.  I hate to throw them out, because I know that people are actually looking for the boxes or inserts.  But they are just space taker uppers for me at the moment.

I kept a handful of my larger expansion boxes since I often use them to store extra components from other games that came with shitty or no boxes.

The small ones I often toss.  Along with box inserts on the larger games when I use the small plastic containers or tackle boxes for the pieces, and need to fit them all inside the game box.


My reasoning is that if I plan to ever sell these games, I'm not going to just piece them out, bit by bit.  Otherwise I'd be left with some little expansion(s), which didn't sell, to a game I wanted to completely get rid of.  For used stuff, better to just put it up as a collection/lot IMO.  Even if I don't make much more off it over the base game.  For me, part of the reason for getting rid of them is to free up the space.