Napoleonic FPS 9 days from steam early access - Holdfast Nations at War

[Destraex]

That's $30 aud. As usual getting ripped here by conversion rates.

[JasonPratt]

Asid seems pretty happy with it so far, although by a logical consequence of the design, the experience is totally dependent on who you get to play with you (and to some extent who you get to play against you).

[Destraex]

Actually the price info is in my initial link. It also says they are working in regional pricing!

[Destraex]

With 3 in the team I think development will be painfully slow though.

[IronX]

Asid seems pretty happy with it so far, although by a logical consequence of the design, the experience is totally dependent on who you get to play with you (and to some extent who you get to play against you).

Joining a clan is probably key to enjoying this game. Because unless there is some mechanism whereby a commander can govern the actions of friendly soldiers, having a dozen or so Napoleonic avatars running around doing their own thing is going to ruin any sense of immersion - even then this will not totally eliminate lone-wolfing.

[Cyrano]

In.

[Barthheart]

In.

::)

[Cyrano]

What Are Ya' At?

[Destraex]

They seem to be reloading on the move which is not very Napoleonic.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9oBdlNTxeAs

[Destraex]

This is probably the best commentary I have seen:

[jomni]

Asid seems pretty happy with it so far, although by a logical consequence of the design, the experience is totally dependent on who you get to play with you (and to some extent who you get to play against you).

Joining a clan is probably key to enjoying this game. Because unless there is some mechanism whereby a commander can govern the actions of friendly soldiers, having a dozen or so Napoleonic avatars running around doing their own thing is going to ruin any sense of immersion - even then this will not totally eliminate lone-wolfing.

It's called skirmishing.  And it's an effective tactic to defeat a line. :D

[Destraex]

The problem Jomni as I am sure you well know. Is that command and control and the organization of armies meant massed firepower was the order of the day and skirmishing although important, never decided a battle. It was considered a specialist role. Now how do you get enough people in a game to simulate this?
Because most people want to be hero snipers right?
I think the civil war game, war of rights, has a system that makes it easy and encourages players to stand in firepower lines to exchange fire in line with the doctrines of the time. I see this game however just relying on officers to try to get player cooperation with house rules.

[jomni]

Yes house rules don't work. The scale is actually too small for line battles if you ask me.  These are skirmish sized battles. A line of 10 men is actually not immersive either.  At least M&B Napoleon has AI bots in a line and all players are officers.

I did play some fun small scale line battles in Battlegrounds 2 (Source mod).

[Destraex]

Jomni. I knew that in mount and blade you could play as an officer with Ai as the soldiers. I just had no idea that you could do it multiplayer. Your right about nations at war. The scale seems to be smaller than mount and blade Napoleonic.

[jomni]

Jomni. I knew that in mount and blade you could play as an officer with Ai as the soldiers. I just had no idea that you could do it multiplayer. Your right about nations at war. The scale seems to be smaller than mount and blade Napoleonic.

Yes you can MP with AI squads too. It's called Commander mode. But don't think a lot of people play that game anymore.