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Current Events / Re: Russia's War Against Ukrai...

Last post by Skoop - Today at 12:57:51 PM

I've heard many pro Russians cite that Clark incident in Serbia.  They tout that as nato aggression and the sentiment is probably what lead to Putin's rise. 

I don't buy all the nato expansion bad and caused Ukraine war that's being put out there.  Something has to keep the Russians in check from gobbling up the Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania.  Eastern Europe is thriving living free from Russian rule, no way that would happen with out nato. 

We wouldn't need to move nato East if Russia would let Eastern Europe live in peace.

I think really, the failure is letting the Russians become enemies 22 years ago.  Nato moving East could have been a friendly alliance with Russia moving closer, some how diplomacy dropped the ball 20+ years ago.

I'm certainly not pro-Russian. Just pragmatic, level-headed and citing a very well-documented fact. I personally draw no connection between the Pristina incident and the rise of Putin.

Wasn't directing that at you.  I've debated the Ukraine topic in other places with actually Russian guys, and they all bring up the Serbia incident.

Another thing they bring up is, was the maidan a true organic Ukrainian movement or was it a sponsored cia coup like the Russians say ? 

I've had actual Ukrainians tell me it was a genuine organic movement, but I'm starting to see some Maidan was a cia coup on western sites.

I gotta say it's awkward telling your Russian friend he's eating a propaganda shit sandwich, then come to find out he was right.

#2

Enigmas of the Mystical / Re: More Pix For A Laugh

Last post by Windigo - Today at 12:39:21 PM

this you Windy?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1779802297070911557

LOL, my beard is shorter, and I have less body hair.... that fer frick's sake is turning grey.... not sure if it is supposed to do that dammit!

#3

Enigmas of the Mystical / Re: A feel good thread

Last post by Windigo - Today at 12:37:38 PM

I especially want you to be happy Gus, sitting on the beach sipping some tropical concoction, looking at the girls (safely with sunglasses on), playing hide and seek with Star....

#4

Current Events / Re: Israel

Last post by JasonPratt - Today at 12:02:13 PM

Iran: "QUICK RUN A BUNCH OF WOMEN AND CHILDREN INTO OUR DRONE/MISSILE BUNKERS!" 

#5

Current Events / Re: Russia's War Against Ukrai...

Last post by Windigo - Today at 11:03:13 AM

I remember finding Gus' great great great great great great grandmother stuck in the dryer.... not casting shade, but she wasn't a quick learner apparently; she got stuck in their about 5-6 more times IIRC.

She repaid my kindness with some Маина

#6

Enigmas of the Mystical / Re: More Pix For A Laugh

Last post by GDS_Starfury - Today at 09:01:02 AM

vroooom vrooooom
a rare Floriduh guy win.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1780380474516631844

#7

Current Events / Re: RUSI article on Attritiona...

Last post by GDS_Starfury - Today at 07:36:05 AM

my understanding is that most of the drones and cruise missiles were shot down with Sidewinder type missiles which are relatively cheap and plentiful.

#8

Current Events / Re: RUSI article on Attritiona...

Last post by FarAway Sooner - Today at 01:11:14 AM

It's unclear if NATO has the ability to sweep the skies of cheap and plentiful Russian drones which seem to have been revealed as among the primary enemies of maneuver warfare.

this ability was pretty much proven last night over Syria and Iraq.

It's not about performance.  It's about stamina.

More specifically, I was referring to the $1,000 artillery recce drones that have been the primary agent in thwarting massed attacks to date in Ukraine.  I'm not as worried about whether we can shoot down something like the Shaheed; I just question whether we'll run out of Patriot missiles before Iran runs out of Shaheeds.

Do we have enough fancy weapon systems to shoot down those thousands and thousands of cheap-ass drones that both sides are now using to great effect?  Or, that failing, do we have the ability to use more really cheap weapons to shoot down their even cheaper weapons.

#9

Enigmas of the Mystical / Re: More Pix For A Laugh

Last post by GDS_Starfury - Yesterday at 04:45:19 PM

IYKYK

#10

Current Events / Re: Israel

Last post by nelmsm - Yesterday at 02:31:14 PM

I'd hit targets in Iran to show the Iranian people and the world that Iran can launch at us and do next to none damage but we can hit back much harder.  The big risk of that is that Iran might decide to make a much bigger strike and lead to continual escalation.