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Current Events / Re: Israel
Last post by JasonPratt - Yesterday at 11:52:34 PMQuote from: GDS_Starfury on April 18, 2024, 11:35:56 PMfwiw they dont have squadrons of Tomcats.
Well, y'know, container units.
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Current Events / Re: Israel
Last post by Gusington - Yesterday at 09:32:40 PM^Wow that guy is pissed.
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Current Events / Re: Israel
Last post by GDS_Starfury - Yesterday at 07:02:30 PM
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Current Events / Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Last post by Gusington - Yesterday at 06:48:11 PMJust in time.
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Current Events / Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Last post by GDS_Starfury - Yesterday at 05:51:24 PMcoincidentally the New Jersey was just put into drydock for extensive maintenance. 
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Current Events / Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Last post by Gusington - Yesterday at 05:48:28 PMReturn of the battleship?
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Enigmas of the Mystical / Re: More Pix For A Laugh
Last post by GDS_Starfury - Yesterday at 04:24:33 PMACHTUNG!
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Beer & Pretzels / Re: Bacon, the alpha and omega...
Last post by steve58 - Yesterday at 03:49:44 PMNow that is a BLT. 
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Current Events / Re: Russia's War Against Ukrai...
Last post by Tripoli - Yesterday at 10:51:56 AMCNN is reporting the Tu-22M3 BACKFIRE was shot down by an S-200 (SA-5 GAMMON) system.
That would explain it being shot down almost 200 miles from Ukraine. I'm surprised/impressed the SA-5 actually hit anything. I also assumed the Ukrainian SA-5 were out of action, as it is a largely static system, and most of them should have been hit by the Russians by this point in the war. My guess is the Russians got cocky and thought they were largely immune from being hit at that range, and either weren't properly using their defensive ECM systems or they are sending out strike aircraft without operational defensive systems, believing the long range made the risk acceptable.
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/04/19/europe/ukraine-air-defense-russian-bomber-dnipropetrovsk-intl/index.html
[Addendum] Apparently, I missed this little detail regarding the use by Ukraine of SA-5s: According to Wikipedia (and yes, I'm embarrassed that Wikipedia showed me up on this point) Ukrainian armed forces claim to have used an S-200 to shoot down the A-50 over the Sea of Azov on 23 February 2024.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-200_missile_system
That would explain it being shot down almost 200 miles from Ukraine. I'm surprised/impressed the SA-5 actually hit anything. I also assumed the Ukrainian SA-5 were out of action, as it is a largely static system, and most of them should have been hit by the Russians by this point in the war. My guess is the Russians got cocky and thought they were largely immune from being hit at that range, and either weren't properly using their defensive ECM systems or they are sending out strike aircraft without operational defensive systems, believing the long range made the risk acceptable.
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/04/19/europe/ukraine-air-defense-russian-bomber-dnipropetrovsk-intl/index.html
[Addendum] Apparently, I missed this little detail regarding the use by Ukraine of SA-5s: According to Wikipedia (and yes, I'm embarrassed that Wikipedia showed me up on this point) Ukrainian armed forces claim to have used an S-200 to shoot down the A-50 over the Sea of Azov on 23 February 2024.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-200_missile_system