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Figured I should start a new thread since the old one dated back to 2014 and expected a June 2018 release. (Instead there was a trailer release.)

First trailer from this summer for context. More artistic than the second trailer.




Second trailer. Amanda Waller of the Suicide Squad is dubious of the plan....  >:D

Not impressed. I guess I'm just 'old school' but I prefer my giant monsters to be about nothing more complex than stomping the shit out of little, tiny trains and tanks in downtown Tokyo as opposed to saving the Earth. I understand there is a couple of new generations that can't relate to that though. So, whatever.  :peace:

I'm with Sir Slash. Maybe I'm becoming a grumpy old bastard, but I'm getting tired of all this alien, outer space, galactic ending BS that movies keep shoving down our throats.

Looking forward to seeing Bree Larson in a space suit though fighting intergalactic aliens  :bd:

Godzilla vs. Your Lawns 2019

I'm another old skooler that would prefer to see Gojira and Rodan team up for a rematch against King Ghidora. 

That would HAVE TO be on Pay-Per-View.  :clap: 

I loved the Godzilla movies as a kid. King Ghidora was my favorite, save the Big G himself. Heh heh, I'm old enough I remember catching King Kong vs. Godzilla at the Saturday matinee.

I've said this before, but literally the first film I ever watched at a theater was a drive-in showing of Godzilla vs Megalon; and if my first indoor theater film wasn't Godzilla vs Gigan (known in the states as Godzilla on Monster Island) then it was close!

Quote from: W8taminute on December 10, 2018, 06:39:46 PM
I'm another old skooler that would prefer to see Gojira and Rodan team up for a rematch against King Ghidora. 

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...that's kind of what's going to happen, except without the Xilians. The 2019 film is broadly referencing Ghidora's first Showa era appearance, also 1964 (that was a busy year with G vs Mothra to start it off!) Which was also the first Toho daikaiju film where the monsters end up saving the Earth -- but the film starts off being a running battle between Godzilla and Rodan, so they aren't friendly to humans! (They have to be shamed by Mothra into fighting Ghidora to save the earth.)

In this case, the plot seems to be borrowing elements from -- of all things -- the Hanna-Barbera 1970s Godzilla run, where a sonic device summons Godzilla to fight for his friends. (A show with a structure weirdly based on Pete's Dragon... except set in modern day. And with Eliot turning out to be Godzilla's "nephew" Godzooky. {shudder} Please God don't let them go that direction...)

Anyway, it's the newer film series (the Heisei in the 90s and the Millennium in the early 00s) where the monsters were rarely saving the Earth. The "old school" Showa series are where the monsters were more-or-less grumpily heroic -- after Ghidora first shows up anyway!

In short: some of the monsters treating humans like pets is old school.  :P

And I'm personally glad they've returned to that, sort of. I've missed Godzilla being (kind of) heroic. That hasn't been true since the mid 70s.

I miss Japanese villains with sunglasses and antennas coming out of their heads.

clearly you have not watch enough Japanese Anime over the last 30 years.

Why doesn't Eleven just send all the bad things into the Upside down? Problem solved.

Also, Godzilla looks like a Punk Sumo Wrestler.

Quote from: Staggerwing on December 11, 2018, 06:35:36 AM
Also, Godzilla looks like a Punk Sumo Wrestler.

And with that image stuck firmly in my mind,  another piece of my childhood bites the dust   :'( :'( :'( :2funny:

^At this point your childhood must be almost all dust, Dad.

Jason my first movie I ever saw at the theater was also Godzilla vs. Megalon.  I think it came out one year before Star Wars did which was the second movie I ever saw at a theater.  Good times!

I suppose I should give the new movie a chance based on your description.  Ok, ok twist my arm.   :)

I wonder if the new movie will have Gorosaurus riding girlies or not?

Quote from: Gusington on December 11, 2018, 09:06:41 AM
^At this point your childhood must be almost all dust, Dad.

Childhood is highly overrated anyway  ::)  I have more fun as an adult. 

Is that one of Mothra's two girls?  :o  She two-timing him now? Some women, first pretty face that comes along.

Quote from: W8taminute on December 11, 2018, 09:23:19 AM
I wonder if the new movie will have Gorosaurus riding girlies or not?

PHRASING!!! (...also grammatically incorrect as to the photo.)

This reminds me, there's a pretty amazing fan animation of a fight between Gorosaurus (from King Kong Escapes, if anyone wants to know), fighting a very similar but far more fan-maligned Toho kaiju, the "Zilla" from 98's American Godzilla.

It is craaaazy.

Reviews are going up.



A good 1/3 of this review is Bob complaining about how much of a boring slog G14 was (and Kong:SI wasn't)... and then orgasming about this one!  O0

"It doesn't need to be reviewed, it just needs to be seen!"

Stuckman is sounding kind of tired. C- !

"You are going to be bored to pieces with the people in this movie." Exposition through storytelling by the human characters. Competent actors giving fine performances reading bad dialogue. (Unlike Jurassic Park where the humans are great characters.)

Thinks G14 is better.  :o "I know that's a fanservice moment, and I know the fans are going to go nuts..." More fun if drunk!

What isn't more fun if drunk? Even drinking is more fun if you're already drunk. I really like the first movie but will probably pass big time on this one. But not on the 'drunk'.

I'm beginning to realize that modern day Godzilla movies, whether they're made in the USA or in Japan, suck.  They are visual special effects masterpieces but story line wise they are horrible. 

I think it's because they are making Godzilla movies by trying to tell a realistically plausible story.  Everyone knows that to truly enjoy Godzilla movies you must tell the story in a campy non serious manner.  Couple that with modern day special effects and you'll have an awesome movie realism be damned!


Sub question:

Which Godzilla movie alien looks like they'd be more fun to hang around with?

(https://wikizilla.org/w/images/1/1a/Simeons-TrueForm.jpg)
Choice 1

(https://www.syfy.com/sites/syfy/files/styles/920x514/public/2019/01/xiliens_final_war.jpg)
Choice 2

Isn't that first pic Sir Slash before he puts his face on, but after he gets drunk?

Well, the Xilian leader overacted histronically (this was on purpose), so was one of the seriously great things about that film. (Which had a lot of problems but that guy was swinging for the parking lot.)

The original Planet X aliens from Monster Zero, however -- or at least one of them -- was practically by definition more fun to hang out with: Miss Namikawa! (The love interest for Nick Adams' character.)

Incidentally, while that film has I think the lowest amount of monster screentime (up until G14 anyway), it was one of the few G films with a seriously entertaining story and characters.

Some snapshots of her roles in Toho kaiju films.

W8aminute's first pic is NOT of me. My gun is bigger. I do still have a shirt like that in my closet from 1974.  :dreamer:

This is one movie where reviews that contain the words "nonsensical, absurd, over the top, silly, incoherent" do not at all turn me off from going to see the film.  On the contrary. 

I have returned. You know I know what time it is...

IS IT TIME FOR A FAQ?!

It is, oh fictional voice in my head.

ARE YOU GOING TO INDULGE IN SPOILER DISCUSSIONS?

No. .....if I can help it.

WAS THE FILM ABSURDLY OVER THE TOP?

Yes. And I loved just about every second of it.

WAS THE FILM NONSENSICAL AND INCOHERENT?

My first impression was gladly, no! -- and that is still my impression around two hours later. Certain things happen faster than they really should, but that's about all. The script is tight.

Is the story high art? Absolutely not. But it's pretty simple and well paced, and unlike G14 (or Kong: Skull Island for that matter, which I enjoyed much more than G14) it is not aggressively stupid to keep the plot going!

I treasure that increasing rarity in film these days. I genuinely cannot recall the last film I watched that wasn't crippled this way. ....maybe Spiderman: Homecoming.

Overall, I think this film is better than Avengers: Endgame.

---THAT IS ONE THOUSAND PERCENT CRAZY TALK----!!!

Well, you can't coherently say it's only because I'm a fanboy because (1) I am infamously on record about trashing films and properties I'm a genuine fan of, when they crap all over the bed (G14 being the first obvious relevant example); and (2) I'm as much a fanboy of the MCU as I am of Toho kaiju films, arguably moreso because those films have been generally high quality and tokusatsu films are very much an acquired taste due to........ let's call it "splotchy" quality. Maybe even "spotty".

BUT BETTER THAN FREAKING ENDGAME?!!?

Not better than the one real strength of Endgame, which are the characters and characterization. Of course. Duh. Although -- and here I am being super-critical of things I'm a fan of! -- Endgame stumbled a number of times on that regard, too. Not enough for me to hate it, by far, but enough for me to notice and be palpably disappointed.

Music? Equal. Easily.

Effects action? G19 is far superior to Endgame... overall. Some moments from Endgame rank up there, but for regular consistency, G19 wins hands down period.

Story? G19 wins simply by not requiring regular injections of plot nonsense to keep its bootstraps going. Unlike Endgame (and a lot of the MCU increasingly, which worries me. The writers should take a few years off and plan what the hell they're doing going forward.) Also unlike G14.

Emotional resonance? I'll give Endgame that one, because they've built it up over time. Factoring that long-running advantage out, however, maybe the same! There's a central core to G19 which is both simple and nuanced.

WE'VE HEARD THAT CHARACTER MOTIVATIONS CHANGE ALL OVER THE PLACE FOR PLOT CONVENIENCE!

I was prepared to cringe about that going in, but... well, they don't. I notice that people who say that tend to have been reaaaaalllly distracted by the action, for better and/or for worse. Can't say I blame them, but I could follow the shifts in how the key intentions worked out. Maybe that's because I was looking for it to be worse?

WE'VE HEARD THAT THE CHARACTERS ARE DIRT SIMPLE AND UNINTERESTING!

They aren't MCU quality, I fully acknowledge this. But they get the job done. And the key ones have some time for nuance.

WE'VE HEARD THE DIALOGUE IS TERRIBLE!

I heard a few clunky lines. But no, the dialogue is straightforward and gets the job done. It is as flourishy as 08 Kong (written by literary authors and also starring Kyle Chandler by the way, who gets some pretty good lines in that film?) No. Would I like it better if the dialogue was more artistic? Sure. But I don't hate it. I actually find the dialogue realistic, under the circumstances, and that's all I actually need.

YOU AREN'T TALKING MUCH ABOUT GODZILLA ET AL!

You aren't asking about Godzilla et al, oh fictional interlocutor. That's going to get into spoilers, though. And maybe needs a second part to the review.

Look, if you enjoy disaster spectacle, you should enjoy the film. Buy tickets with confidence. Be aware that little kids might find it too loud and intense, and the language was a little harsher than I was expecting (though not nearly as much as could be realistically expected!) The fact that G--d---m was used in the middle of the first trailer, was not a fluke.

If you don't enjoy super-loud flashy-bang action with creative visuals, you aren't going to like the film regardless. But it has a lot to offer along that line for afficiondos. Would it be nice if the characters were as engaging as in the first Jurassic Park (for example)? Sure. But they aren't crap. They aren't pizza, but they're steak. I'm happy with both, though I eat pizza more when I can get it.  O:-)


TL;DR -- it's like John Wick for kaiju fans instead of for gun-fu crime-drama fans. This is not praise I give lightly. It is very solid for what it sets out to do, and deserves to make a lot more profit than it will probably end up making.

THIS IS GOING TO BE THE SILLIER PART OF THE FAQ ISN'T IT?

Probably.

AND SPOILERYER!

Maybe.

IS KONG IN THE FILM?

Glimpses, at a distance by camera, on monitors. The story references Skull Island's plot in passing several times, and sets up the sequel next year -- which, as I started to suspect, now looks very much like a Part 2 to a duology. That said, this film does not by any means end on an unresolved cliffhanger.

IS THERE A POST-CREDIT SCENE TO SET UP G VS K?

Technically yes, but it doesn't reference Kong at all. What does set up G vs Kong, along the way, are the main end credits, which serve as a nice epilogue. (And also serve as a callback to the opening credits of G14, in the same style -- but with vastly much better music!)

IS THE POST-CREDIT SCENE WORTH STAYING AROUND FOR?!

I'd say yes, partly because I enjoyed listening to the end credit music. If you skip it though, don't worry, I'm sure its plot point will be very adequately covered in the next film.

ARE YOU GOING TO SPOIL IT?!

No, but I'll give a hint: it resembles a pre-opening-credit scene to one of the two best Heisei Series Godzilla films. (And might be an intentional reference. This film is made by fans for fans. But fandom isn't required.)

THAT WAS FAR TOO VAGUE TO BE USEFUL!

On purpose; I said I wasn't going to spoil it. I appreciated its fridge brilliance, though! -- on the way out of the parking lot in the car, I realized the film had set this up about halfway through! (I said this script was surprisingly solid.  :smitten: )

WE'VE HEARD THERE ARE OVER 17 KAIJU IN THIS FILM!

That...... might be technically true, although I somewhat doubt it. Only seven kaiju are clearly seen: four of those are the classic Toho stars of the film, one is a Muto, and two are new. Other new ones are glimpsed in passing. One of the two clearly seen new ones could be a nice upgrade to a classic Toho monster, if Toho wanted to go that route, however.

SO GODZILLA, MOTHRA, RODAN, AND GHIDORA ARE THE REAL STARS OF THE FILM?

Yes, yes, a thousand times yes. The fx crew do a lot of cool things and they get to be characters. I was even surprised to see some characterization given to the three Ghidora heads! -- not a lot, but it's there! All things considered, that's genuinely amazing.

ARE THEY BETTER CHARACTERS THAN SMAUG?

Ha ha ha ha, no. But they're very sufficient for what they are.

IS GHIDORA A BETTER DRAGON THAN SMAUG?

Absolutely (aside from necessarily having less characterization). The director and fx team obviously had Smaug in their sights, and they go above and beyond. Not to take anything away from Smaug, he'll never not be awesome.

IS THIS THE BEST GODZILLA FILM EVER MADE?

The first film (in 54) is technically better in some ways, and more important obviously, also more meaningful. But this film reaches hard for a meaning relevant to G films generally, and then has a debate about that meaning! Wasn't expecting that, and I appreciated the effort (even if I don't agree with either flavor of the meaning philosophically, which amounts to humans being no inherently better than any other animals but also somehow more likely to destroy the earth than any mere animals as though we aren't really part of nature after all. I realize why this is incoherent, but I don't think anyone in the film does.)

Overall, though, yeah: by far the best Godzilla film ever made. I don't know how that can even be seriously debated. And it's a genuinely good, solid film, easily one of the very best films (per se) this year so far. I don't doubt it'll still be near the top by the end of the year.

FINE, WHATEVER, BACK TO THE MONSTERS. WE'VE HEARD 60% SCREENTIME?

Might be more than that overall! I can understand some reviewers being fatigued by monster overload.

WE'VE HEARD THE FOUR STARRING MONSTERS RARELY INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER!

....that's probably true, strictly speaking. Godzilla and Ghidora fight a lot. More than I was expecting! I'm unsure if Rodan and Godzilla are even ever in the same frame for more than ten seconds total. Ditto Mothra for more than 30 seconds total (and less than with Ghidora).

DOES GHIDORA COME FROM SPACE?

That would be spoilers. Let's say not in this movie.

ARE ANY TOHO KAIJU KILLED OFF PERMANENTLY?

Kind of a spoilery question. Let's say I was perfectly fine with the end result.

ARE ANY MORE TOHO KAIJU TEASED FOR NEXT FILM?

I'm not sure if he'll be in the next film (G vs Kong), but I'd say there's a reasonably good chance that a version of the Destroyer will be on the way, and/or one of the other Kaiju from the Heisei Era. If you have no idea what that could even possibly mean, don't worry about it: it'll be super-nifty, that's all.

DOES THAT MEAN THE OXYGEN DESTROYER FACTORS INTO THE STORY?

I had seen teases from the director it would be referenced; I was surprised at how they did so. A little disappointed but not much. It looks like it will be a lot more important going forward.

DOES THAT MEAN SERIZAWA DIES?

That would be spoilery. I was not surprised, and was not disappointed. But I also continue to maintain that he's "Serizawa" in name only: he's a totally different character. (This is only important, though, if you know and care about what that character originally means.)

...UM... TRYING TO ASK NON-SPOILERY QUESTIONS... DO MOTHRA'S TWIN FAIRIES SHOW UP?!

Not as such, but they are definitely referenced. Twice, in two very different ways, come to think of it! It's cute and topically appropriate but mainly a nod to the fans.

NOT A KAIJU QUESTION: WE WERE TOLD SOME CHARACTER FROM KONG: SKULL ISLAND WOULD SHOW UP. IS THAT CHARLES DANCE'S VILLAIN CHARACTER?!

....um, maybe? I honestly don't know. I was looking for this, but if one of those characters returned (other than glimpses and mentions of Kong himself), it wasn't clear to me. At no time does Dance's character give any indication he's Tom Hiddleston's previous character, and their names are totally different (as I just checked to be sure). Nor is he treated by Monarch (the human hero group) as though he's using an alias. Maybe Zhang Ziyi is playing the daughter of the Chinese character from K:SI? That was my expectation and tentative guess, but when she shows some family photos they don't seem to be referencing that. I might have missed something though.


Okay, even I'm tired of doing this now, especially with almost nothing to gripe about! I wish I could see it in Imax; and I'd like to see it at least once more on the big screen. Oh, okay, relatedly, one more thing...

WE'VE HEARD THAT G14 IS BETTER BECAUSE IT SHOWS OFF THE MASSIVE SENSE OF SCALE OF THESE CREATURES --

Gareth Edwards (the director) was good at that, but he also did so in wildly incoherent ways sometimes. (The scene with the Muto and the train track comes to mind.)

I absolutely do not understand what film some reviewers I've read/heard were watching, who complained that this film is not only worse but somehow signally fails at doing that. This film reeks with the massive scale of the kaiju! -- showing them off in lots of colorful ways! Sometimes I think some people are trying desperately to justify why G14 must be better somehow, and I don't know why that would even be happening, but this is by far the silliest attempt I've heard at comparing G19 disfavorably. Maybe it's a side effect of showing them so much? -- the same reviewers I've heard that from are also the ones who sounded exhausted at having too much kaiju action and who treated that as a bad thing.

Arguably the monsters move too fast sometimes, and that seems to be what the disfavorable sense of scale comparison is coming from. But in terms of the film: one of them has three snakey heads (which have historically twitched around a lot more than in this film!); one of them is much lighter and fluffier (so to speak) than the others; one of them has always been dangerous generating sonic booms from flying too fast, so speed has always been a thing with him; and as for the scene they're thinking of with Godzilla... in the context of the film he was just supercharged, so he'd have more energy to move faster in the fight. I think one of the characters even briefly mentions this in terms of the plot that just happened. So... I kind of understand this complaint, but not really. And even factoring that fast movement in, this does not by any means eliminate the other major artistic ways of showing off the massive size.

Jet Jaguar approves.

No sign of mecha in the series yet by the way.

Which is kind of spoilery as an observation?

Here are a random bag of other kind-of-spoilery notes.


1.) Godzilla wins every kaiju fight, although at least once he has some distraction help. This is partly important as sealing his claim to be the King of the Monsters, which is a big plot theme in the film (unlike the 1955 American re-edit of 54's Gojira, where being "King of the Monsters" was just a marketing title comparing him to other movie monsters.) I was not, however, expecting this!

2.) Considering the main story theme for humanity in the film (that we're basically an out-of-control virus and shouldn't regard ourselves as any more special than any other animal), I was a little surprised to see the writer(s) eventually suggest that humanity (as a corporate species) also counts as an Alpha Titan. This adds an interesting re-contextualization to a lot of the plot, on both humanity's side and the Titans, in hindsight. I'll be keeping this in mind the next time I watch it -- partly because I'm unsure yet if the writer(s) intended this implication, much less as a factor to the plot.

3.) The writers go out of their way to explain how something that can only swim (and so which has major limits on how fast it can go), could travel at flight-speed around the world; and they tie it to their developing over-arching plot! It's clever, but it comes at the expense of some plot plausibility in G14 where Godzilla just swims around at normal speeds with natural boosts occasionally. (Then again, the plot of that film is a dire wreck, so...)

4.) Relatedly, I'm starting to wonder if the producers are setting up a modern-day adaptation of Edgar Rice Burrough's Pellucidar novel series. Which might be gold, if they can do it! (By the same token, since Warner Brothers actually owns the characters, they could even segue into a classic DC series called "Warlord of Skataris" which straight-up steals the Pellucidar setting for the mid-1970s and new characters.)

5.) Comparing jump-scares between films. In G14, the scariest thing is a seagull. Not true for G19.  O0 (It's a more pointless and obviously coming jumpscare to be honest, but still miles better.)

6.) All the Toho Kaiju die. I think. I'm a little unsure in one case but that's the implication.

7.) The creators reaaaalllllyyy like the Heisei Era, and borrowed the final confrontation from both of the two best films from that series. I do not disapprove of this.  :bd:

We saw Godzilla this evening.

This is a perfect MST3K movie - a monster movie with an incoherent plot.  But all of these monster movies have incoherent plots.

My regret - I had a conflict this afternoon that pushed the viewing into the evening - the theater was not empty.

Watch this at home when you can drink beers and play MST3K with your family.  Watching it this way would make it a solid B movie on an A-F scale.

The only way to explain the plot is the old telephone game.  Somebody wrote a plot.  They then read it out loud, fast, to another person who typed what they heard with inadequate typing speed.  This was repeated 4 to 5 times each time with a new person.

Monster special effects were well done. 

Godzilla can seemingly go "boom."  There is "good radiation" that renews the earth which is not "bad radiation" which is made by man and hurts the earth.  Unless the "bad radiation" is used to renew Godzilla where the "bad radiation is used to revive a good monster."  Some of the titans are from Earth and are "natural monsters" and thus "good," while other monsters came from off of the Earth and are "not natural" which is of course bad.   Boss monsters from terrestrial or nonterrestrial sources can command other monsters regardless of their origin.  Think the head school bully of a reform school of idiots.   :uglystupid2:

I could critique the actions of the humans, but that becomes so silly that you will think I'm making things up.  I'm predicting rentals will be better in States with legal marijuana. 

I would 100% watch it being watched by the MST3K guys.

Godzilla is my spirit animal. My shirt says so.

I have a higher estimate of the plot than Airboy does (aside from the incoherency of the philosophy behind the plot, which we probably agree against), but maybe my audience wasn't as distracting. ;) (And I'm someone who posted a screed about the "dire wreck" of G14's plot.)


The good and bad radiation thing is silly on the face of it -- especially because the plot makes clear that even Godzilla involves bad radiation, i.e. inimical to life -- but probably has roots (pun not originally intended) in philosophical vitalism, which would connect somewhat well to the overtly magical notion of evolution in this science-fantasy movie (and series, and the series of series, overall. ;) )

Godzilla has been able to 'boom' since at least the 90s. Maybe for the first time in the Heisei series entry vs. Ghidora (though arguably one film before vs. Biollante). It's new for American audiences, but not for fans. Ditto "burning Godzilla" (also borrowed directly from the 90s Hesei series).

The boss monsters seem able to command other monsters through bio-acoustics, thus regardless of their origin (terrestrial or otherwise). This part of the plot, combined with "Asskicking = Authority", is pretty coherent, and rather overt. (More subtle, as I noted above, is the implication from some plot mechanics that humanity-in-general also counts as a boss monster, or Alpha Titan.)

There are hints in the story that the origin of even the terrestrial monsters isn't "natural" per se; and that this part of the plot will be developed more in G vs Kong.

A nice montage of G action stitched together (not in release order) from the original G54 through all three series (Showa, Heisei, and Millennium) plus recent work from G14, ShinG, AnimeG, and G19... set to the G19 remake of Blue Oyster Cult's "Godzilla" (which plays during the end main-credit sequence.)

My brother-in-law, another retiree, told me it was the worst Godzilla movie ever, a low bar indeed. How can you mess up a plot that a nine year old could write?

He's exaggerating. It isn't physically possible to be worse than 1955 up there (Godzilla's Counterattack, the only other G film in black and white. And even it has its merits).

I wonder what they paid Godzilla to do that film? Whatever it was, it wasn't enough.

Well, he does have a motion actor, so it was something! -- each of the Ghidora heads had a motion actor, too!

We can be sure that they were at least paid scale.













THE GIANT REPTILE ACTORS

WERE PAID AT LEAST

SCALE

You need a weird sense of humor to enjoy giant Japanese Monster movies.

Or you need some deep philosophy which is beyond me.   :D

It's the deep philosophy .........thingy.

Well, I sure don't agree with their philosophies, so...!

It is very much an acquired taste, but this is the most mainstream kaiju genre film I can even think of. Except maybe the Pacific Rim duology?

Well, I don't usually go for the stories (although this one is okay, and there are exceptions. 2015's Shin Godzilla has a very dry, and very Japanese, story; but the writers know what they're doing straight down the line.) As for the "tokusatsu" effects, I appreciate them as innovative low-budget challenges to big-budget films -- and for a few decades, they managed to beat everyone in the world!

So as film history they have a definite place. And I'll always have good nostalgia for them, since they were the first cinema films my Dad ever took me to see; and indeed he used to watch them (and kung fu films) late at night when it was his turn to give me a bottle. So emotionally they always remind me how much I love my Dad.  :smitten:

Godzilla movies remind me of my Dad too. Every time I'd stay up late to watch one, he'd yell at me, "Turn that Jap crap off and go to bed dammit"! My Father was a master at angry rhyming.

Quote from: Sir Slash on June 19, 2019, 10:08:06 PM
Godzilla movies remind me of my Dad too. Every time I'd stay up late to watch one, he'd yell at me, "Turn that Jap crap off and go to bed dammit"! My Father was a master at angry rhyming.

If your Dad were only alive today, he could be "rapping Grandpa" and really wow the ladies on his retirement home tour.

He would indeed Airboy. He would indeed.

Lol I know this is kind of a late post but I liked the new series except is it just me or do you find the original series art better than this one?