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Title: Any games with a dynamic open-world campaign?
Post by: Apocalypse 31 on April 19, 2017, 08:31:03 AM
There's an older helicopter game called Enemy Engaged: Comanche vs Hokum that has a continuous open-world mode where two coalitions are duking it out. The player can contribute by conducting various types of missions that enable to AI ground forces to advance.

From the SimHQ Wiki
QuoteThe player pilots an attack helicopter inside a dynamic campaign. Instead of being confined to separate pre-defined "missions" like in so many other simulation games, it is possible to see the battle unfold across the entire battlefield in real time, without "load times" during missions. Your tasks in the game range from attack missions on enemy bases, FARPs and vehicles, close air support or interdiction of enemy air defenses, recon-missions to obtain photographic intelligence, down to simple transfer missions to replenish your forces.

I've heard Falcon 4.0 has something similar, but wondering if anything else is out there? Both games are a little older; EECH, especially, hasn't aged very well.
Title: Re: Any games with a dynamic open-world campaign?
Post by: Toonces on April 19, 2017, 08:44:23 AM
Falcon 4.0 is the gold standard that you're looking for.  It runs in real time, is very robust, and is straight up dynamic.  The BMS version is amazing, and has taken the original and improved it so much that it's barely recognizable.

To some extent, Wings Over Flanders Fields is dynamic, but it is not real time.  However, the missions are generated based on the activity on the front and are not scripted.  I've never lived long enough to see how the front moves, but I understand that it does.

The old IL-2 is dynamic to some extent, but not to the degree that Falcon 4 or WOFF are.  Better than scripted missions, but it's a poor man's dynamic campaign.

The Wings Over Vietnam/Europe/North Atlantic/etc. are somewhat dynamic.  Again, missions generated based on success and failure, persistent damage to resources between missions, etc., but not real time, and nowhere near as robust as Falcon.
Title: Re: Any games with a dynamic open-world campaign?
Post by: Toonces on April 19, 2017, 08:45:39 AM
BMS Falcon holds up very well, despite its age.  Watch a few YouTube videos of the newest version 4.33.  I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at what the community has accomplished. 
Title: Re: Any games with a dynamic open-world campaign?
Post by: Apocalypse 31 on April 19, 2017, 09:05:28 AM
Thanks for the detailed reply!

My fault for not being specific, but anything not a flight sim?
Title: Re: Any games with a dynamic open-world campaign?
Post by: Toonces on April 19, 2017, 09:43:10 AM
I'm not sure what you're asking, then.

All of the Total War titles are dynamic.  Crusader Kings 2, the EU series, etc. are dynamic. 

Mount and Blade is dynamic.

The Steel Armor games have a dynamic campaign layer.

And so on.
Title: Re: Any games with a dynamic open-world campaign?
Post by: Apocalypse 31 on April 19, 2017, 10:22:09 AM
I think what I'm asking has not been made.

Would love to play the EECH dynamic campaign, but with the  ability to control and play as ground forces.
Title: Re: Any games with a dynamic open-world campaign?
Post by: Bison on April 19, 2017, 10:23:52 AM
EECH?
Title: Re: Any games with a dynamic open-world campaign?
Post by: mirth on April 19, 2017, 10:25:51 AM
Quote from: Bison on April 19, 2017, 10:23:52 AM
EECH?

Enemy Engaged: Comanche vs Hokum

https://www.gog.com/game/comanche_vs_hokum

It was a helluva a lot fun back in the day.
Title: Re: Any games with a dynamic open-world campaign?
Post by: Bison on April 19, 2017, 10:27:42 AM
Ah...never played.
Title: Re: Any games with a dynamic open-world campaign?
Post by: mirth on April 19, 2017, 10:32:53 AM
^loser
Title: Re: Any games with a dynamic open-world campaign?
Post by: Bison on April 19, 2017, 10:33:13 AM
Aye...that I am.
Title: Re: Any games with a dynamic open-world campaign?
Post by: MikeGER on April 19, 2017, 10:43:23 AM
Quote from: Apocalypse 31 on April 19, 2017, 10:22:09 AM
I think what I'm asking has not been made.

Would love to play the EECH dynamic campaign, but with the  ability to control and play as ground forces.

IIRC there are several ARMA 3 user made mods/modules out where a persistant war is going on and you can pick missions to participate in different roles  ...i dont have first hand knowledge/experience  just remember reading about them
Title: Re: Any games with a dynamic open-world campaign?
Post by: undercovergeek on April 19, 2017, 10:59:09 AM
There's a sci fi FPS forget it's name - planet side? Where the war is always raging whether you're playing or not, lots of different classes and the like
Title: Re: Any games with a dynamic open-world campaign?
Post by: Skoop on April 19, 2017, 11:01:02 AM
Quote from: Apocalypse 31 on April 19, 2017, 10:22:09 AM
I think what I'm asking has not been made.

Would love to play the EECH dynamic campaign, but with the  ability to control and play as ground forces.

There's dynamic missions in Dcs that run off scripting that are ment for multiplayer but can be run in sp.  You could control and crew the ground forces with the combined arms module.
Title: Re: Any games with a dynamic open-world campaign?
Post by: Toonces on April 19, 2017, 11:52:40 AM
^ Yep.

And I was also thinking of ARMA 3, but I also don't have too much experience actually playing the dynamic scenarios either.
Title: Re: Any games with a dynamic open-world campaign?
Post by: Father Ted on April 19, 2017, 12:40:21 PM
Quote from: Toonces on April 19, 2017, 08:44:23 AM

To some extent, Wings Over Flanders Fields is dynamic, but it is not real time.  However, the missions are generated based on the activity on the front and are not scripted.  I've never lived long enough to see how the front moves, but I understand that it does.


It's obviously pretty true to life then...
Title: Re: Any games with a dynamic open-world campaign?
Post by: Apocalypse 31 on April 19, 2017, 01:03:32 PM
Quote from: MikeGER on April 19, 2017, 10:43:23 AM
Quote from: Apocalypse 31 on April 19, 2017, 10:22:09 AM
I think what I'm asking has not been made.

Would love to play the EECH dynamic campaign, but with the  ability to control and play as ground forces.

IIRC there are several ARMA 3 user made mods/modules out where a persistant war is going on and you can pick missions to participate in different roles  ...i dont have first hand knowledge/experience  just remember reading about them

Can you hit me with a link?

I'm a pretty avid ArmA/OFP player, and I've never seen anything like that. Most of the Capture The Island game modes are player-driven and normally require a bunch of human-players to be effective.
Title: Re: Any games with a dynamic open-world campaign?
Post by: Nefaro on April 19, 2017, 09:15:36 PM
Quote from: Toonces on April 19, 2017, 08:44:23 AM


The Wings Over Vietnam/Europe/North Atlantic/etc. are somewhat dynamic.  Again, missions generated based on success and failure, persistent damage to resources between missions, etc., but not real time, and nowhere near as robust as Falcon.


The Strike Fighters 2 series is the newer version of the "Wings Over XX" series, with some improved graphics and later updates.


I'd recommend getting the SF2 stuff to a newcomer, instead of the older Wings ones.
Title: Re: Any games with a dynamic open-world campaign?
Post by: Toonces on April 19, 2017, 11:17:43 PM
^ Yes.

Also:

Title: Re: Any games with a dynamic open-world campaign?
Post by: Toonces on April 19, 2017, 11:28:47 PM
Of course, French pilots are freaking crazy.

Title: Re: Any games with a dynamic open-world campaign?
Post by: jomni on April 20, 2017, 12:18:15 AM
Quote from: Apocalypse 31 on April 19, 2017, 01:03:32 PM
Quote from: MikeGER on April 19, 2017, 10:43:23 AM
Quote from: Apocalypse 31 on April 19, 2017, 10:22:09 AM
I think what I'm asking has not been made.

Would love to play the EECH dynamic campaign, but with the  ability to control and play as ground forces.

IIRC there are several ARMA 3 user made mods/modules out where a persistant war is going on and you can pick missions to participate in different roles  ...i dont have first hand knowledge/experience  just remember reading about them

Can you hit me with a link?

I'm a pretty avid ArmA/OFP player, and I've never seen anything like that. Most of the Capture The Island game modes are player-driven and normally require a bunch of human-players to be effective.

Look up Whole lotta Stratis, Whole lotta Altis and Dynamic Universal War System (DUWS).
Though it feels more like GTA or Ghost Recon Wildlands.  You get to bring along a squad.
Title: Re: Any games with a dynamic open-world campaign?
Post by: Nefaro on April 20, 2017, 04:24:05 PM
It's amazing what the modders have done with the ancient Falcon 4 sim. 

Think I'm past messing with that old dinosaur, though.  I'd really like to see the Viper added to DCS sometime in the future, once they get past their current distraction and back to making good progress.
Title: Re: Any games with a dynamic open-world campaign?
Post by: mikeck on April 20, 2017, 07:51:00 PM
I really can't believe that will all the DCS planes available, there is no F-16
Title: Re: Any games with a dynamic open-world campaign?
Post by: jomni on April 20, 2017, 07:58:11 PM
Quote from: mikeck on April 20, 2017, 07:51:00 PM
I really can't believe that will all the DCS planes available, there is no F-16

Not exotic enough.
Title: Re: Any games with a dynamic open-world campaign?
Post by: Skoop on April 20, 2017, 09:36:03 PM
Quote from: jomni on April 20, 2017, 07:58:11 PM
Quote from: mikeck on April 20, 2017, 07:51:00 PM
I really can't believe that will all the DCS planes available, there is no F-16

Not exotic enough.

Might be still too classified to do it dcs study sim level, but after the F18 is done....I don't see why it wouldn't be possible to do the F16....all the technology would be in place to do a modern multi role.
Title: Re: Any games with a dynamic open-world campaign?
Post by: Apocalypse 31 on April 21, 2017, 07:36:57 AM
Quote from: mikeck on April 20, 2017, 07:51:00 PM
I really can't believe that will all the DCS planes available, there is no F-16

I cant believe there's no dynamic campaign!
Title: Re: Any games with a dynamic open-world campaign?
Post by: Skoop on April 21, 2017, 09:42:41 AM
There are user made semi dynamic with persistent losses for DCS.  Check the mission making forums at ED, there's ones for the mig21, f15, f5e,and mirage.
Title: Re: Any games with a dynamic open-world campaign?
Post by: Apocalypse 31 on April 21, 2017, 10:23:07 AM
Quote from: Skoop on April 21, 2017, 09:42:41 AM
There are user made semi dynamic with persistent losses for DCS.  Check the mission making forums at ED, there's ones for the mig21, f15, f5e,and mirage.

I don't own any of those modules, and I was looking at something more combined arms focused.

Again, I don't think what I want exists.

This is a mission for Microprose.
Title: Re: Any games with a dynamic open-world campaign?
Post by: mikeck on April 21, 2017, 10:35:08 AM
I think someone is working on the F-14 as mod but I would love a "US Navy " package. F-14, F-18 and maybe the A-6e intruder. Great plane that gets no love anywhere
Title: Re: Any games with a dynamic open-world campaign?
Post by: Skoop on April 21, 2017, 10:41:32 AM
I'd love to see an a6 too, the SAM and EW busting capabilities would be awesome in dcs.  The f14 is already being worked on by 3rd party devs.