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Organizations and Equipment / Re: Tanks!
« Last post by BanzaiCat on Today at 10:42:35 AM »


Not pictured: the twenty Ukranian slaves they have pushing these cardboard props along from underneath/inside, Flintstones-style. ;D
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Organizations and Equipment / Re: HMS Ocean Slated for Retirement
« Last post by BanzaiCat on Today at 10:20:36 AM »
The most eye-opening conversation I had about UK politics was with my Scots co-worker discussing why Thatcher was a brutal mess of a leader. I'd always thought Thatcher was the UK's version of Reagan.
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I wonder if Bawb cracked the lash there, too?
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References and Research / Re: The Loss of Sheffield
« Last post by JudgeDredd on Today at 06:50:51 AM »
wow...but no surprise really

Thanks for the link  O0
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Organizations and Equipment / Re: HMS Ocean Slated for Retirement
« Last post by JudgeDredd on Today at 05:35:14 AM »
oh - I know - that makes it all the more infuriating
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Organizations and Equipment / Re: HMS Ocean Slated for Retirement
« Last post by mirth on Today at 05:06:23 AM »
The worst part is the ships they're looking at cutting now aren't old at all. Ocean's been in service for about 20 years, the Albions were launched in 2001.
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Organizations and Equipment / Re: HMS Ocean Slated for Retirement
« Last post by JudgeDredd on Today at 04:58:30 AM »
Every time the Tories get in power, they cut the forces. Public sector pay and manpower is hammered under the Tories.

The next step will be to have a privately funded armed forces. I shit you not. They fucking HATE public expenditure.

Falklands Conflict - Thatchers government was in the process of running the armed forces down.
  • Hermes was being scrapped
  • Invincible was being sold to the Aussies
  • Not to mention one of the catalysts - getting rid of Endeavour - a signal to the Argies that Britain couldn't be arsed with the South Atlantic
  • Vulcan being scrapped
When things "get old" it's fine to think "They have to go"...but you have to think about replacement...and they never want to because they do not like any public costs. I think they've got better things to do with the money - like line their own fucking pockets or by votes in the House of Commons with the DUP!!

I guarantee you we would not have these two carriers being built if Labour hadn't fucked up and made it so bloody expensive for them to be cancelled....and in fact probably done so knowing that the Tories were going to get into power before they were completed.

Makes me sick seeing that twat Fallon siting there taking credit for those carriers coming into service everytime he's asked about the forces being run down!!

Please - don't get me fucking started on those fuckwits.
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