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Title: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: bbmike on July 26, 2016, 07:02:34 AM
Modiphius Entertainment is publishing the next Star Trek RPG (http://www.modiphius.com/star-trek.html). The awesome news is that it IS NOT based on the new Jar Jar crap. Can't wait for this! Anyone familiar with Modiphius?
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Dammit Carl! on July 26, 2016, 08:17:54 AM
As someone who currently owns FASA Trek, LUG Trek (TOS, Next Gen and DS9 books as well as any/all supplements I could find), Decipher Trek (somewhere, I swear), Prime Directive (both GURPS and Amarillo's house rules) and a slew of netbooks, I can honestly say that I need this too.

I love Star Trek like former Speaker of the House Bohener loves scotch and cigarettes.
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Nefaro on July 26, 2016, 11:55:42 AM
Quote from: bbmike on July 26, 2016, 07:02:34 AM
Anyone familiar with Modiphius?


Yes. 

I've also been getting familiar with their relatively new 2d20 system, created by the same guy who did the FFG Star Wars series and WFRP 3rd.  Looks like a really cool RPG system.  One that has some similarities with those FFG games, but doesn't use custom dice.  Notably the different levels & mixtures of success instead of a simple pass/fail system, and some abstracted parts such as zones for movement & range.  The latter of which makes it super easy to play without minis, and easier when you are.

Both of the 2d20 Modiphius games I've been reading have pretty awesome "Lifepath" style character creation.  Kinda like that in Traveller, but with extra.. soul?  It adds background story hooks while you're doing it, and instead of randomly rolling everything (unless you want to), it provides a few character creation points that you can spend to manipulate various parts of your character's previous lifepath (in MC3).  Wonderful stuff. 

I got in on their RE Howard's Conan recently, being finalized at the moment but with sizable preview PDF chunks to read at the moment.  Also have numerous Mutant Chronicles 3rd Edition physical books.  Both use the same 2d20 system, generally the same but with appropriate differences to suit the setting in question.  Beautiful quality stuff, and jammed full of content.

O0


I've seen two or three vid reviews on MC3 that were all quite positive.  They use the same system in one or two others but I don't own them... yet?

Drive-thru RPG has Quick Start pdf kits for them, if you want to get an idea how the system generally works.  It's pretty bare bones, with pre-gen characters, but you can see the basics:


http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/126929/Mutant-Chronicles-3rd-Edition-FREE-Quickstart

http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/174829/Robert-E-Howards-CONAN-Roleplaying-Game-Quickstart

http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/159673/INFINITY-RPG-FREE-Quickstart





Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: mirth on July 26, 2016, 12:09:29 PM
I'll be keeping an eye on this. Haven't bought a new ST RPG since the FASA days. Still have those books around somewhere.
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Nefaro on July 26, 2016, 12:20:40 PM
Also note that the vehicle/ship combat in MC3 is also a bit similar to that in the Star Wars RPGs.

In that the whole player group has a variety of actions they can do, depending on which station they're manning.  Maybe even more so than the Star Wars RPG.  So the flow of some players isn't interrupted by thumb-twiddling while a driver and gunner are having all the fun through the whole stretch.  I imagine they would further expand on this in a Star Trek RPG.
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: bbmike on July 26, 2016, 12:25:30 PM
I'm not familiar with their 2d20 system. I'll have to look it up. As far as ship combat I'll probably still use SFB to resolve.  :)
We really should think about starting a play-by-forum RPG game here.
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: mirth on July 26, 2016, 12:30:14 PM
Quote from: Nefaro on July 26, 2016, 12:20:40 PM
Also note that the vehicle/ship combat in MC3 is also a bit similar to that in the Star Wars RPGs.

In that the whole player group has a variety of actions they can do, depending on which station they're manning.  Maybe even more so than the Star Wars RPG.  So the flow of some players isn't interrupted by thumb-twiddling while a driver and gunner are having all the fun through the whole stretch.  I imagine they would further expand on this in a Star Trek RPG.


I remember doing something similar with FASA's Starship Tactical Combat Simulator. We broke things up into stations. The Captain gave the orders, but it was up to the individual players to allocate power, maneuver the ship, fire weapons, etc. It made for a pretty cool combat system and everyone had something to do in a battle. We used the STCS in conjunction with the RPG. When space combat happened, we broke out a hex mat and the ships and used the STCS charts to game the battle.
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Dammit Carl! on July 26, 2016, 12:35:20 PM
Quote from: bbmike on July 26, 2016, 12:25:30 PM
We really should think about starting a play-by-forum RPG game here.

Dibs on the yeoman-with-a-horrible-drinking-problem spot!
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Nefaro on July 26, 2016, 12:38:49 PM
I loved STCS.  Despite the Fed ships and torpedoes being so OP.  My favorite era of ST, especially the ships.  O0

I'm positive Modiphius will put out a Quick Start for this ST rpg too.  SOP for them.  Around the time they're getting ready to launch the KS (if that's what they're doing with this one).

They also seem to have their KS-to-Production process going fairly quickly & smoothly lately, now that they've been at it numerous times.
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: mirth on July 26, 2016, 12:44:47 PM
Quote from: Nefaro on July 26, 2016, 12:38:49 PM
Despite the Fed ships and torpedoes being so OP.

QFT. You had to give the Klingons and Romulans a significant numerical advantage in most battles. Even cloaking devices didn't really level things, particularly with those useless plasma weapons the Romulans had.

I also spent a fair amount of time modding ships to make them somewhat competitive with the Feds.
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: bbmike on July 26, 2016, 12:47:02 PM
Quote from: Dammit Carl! on July 26, 2016, 12:35:20 PM
Quote from: bbmike on July 26, 2016, 12:25:30 PM
We really should think about starting a play-by-forum RPG game here.

Dibs on the yeoman-with-a-horrible-drinking-problem spot!

Only if the Yeoman is named Otis.
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Dammit Carl! on July 26, 2016, 12:52:01 PM
Quote from: bbmike on July 26, 2016, 12:47:02 PM
Only if the Yeoman is named Otis.

Not a problem.  Otis is the name and Saurian Brandy is the game!
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: BanzaiCat on July 26, 2016, 02:08:16 PM
Screw the Gorn and their homing plasma torpedos. Just sayin'.

I have the original FASA RPG books too (light/powder blue covers, three of them). I'd be interested just for the reading material itself.
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Nefaro on July 26, 2016, 03:34:42 PM
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on July 26, 2016, 02:08:16 PM
Screw the Gorn and their homing plasma torpedos. Just sayin'.




I have plenty Federation Commander (http://www.starfleetgames.com/federation/) sets to placate my old ST ship-to-ship hexfare battles nowadays.   :)

Also noticed ADB is supposed to have an official Campaign system for it (FC and SFB) coming out sometime in the near future.   ^-^



I'm mostly just into the ship combat, in the ST universe, and not so much role-playing red shirts.  But as far as modern RPG games go, I think it's getting one of the best systems out there, from a quality game company (Modiphius).   

IIRC, Modiphius also has some other ..different.. IPs on the way.  Like John Carter Of Mars and Thunderbirds games.  Their Mutant: Year Zero rpg has also gained some acclaim, although it's a different system.
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Dammit Carl! on July 26, 2016, 04:22:16 PM
Curious to see how they play that out; the days of licenced IP games as RPGs aint what they used to be (with the exception of maybe Star Wars perhaps). 
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: bbmike on July 26, 2016, 04:35:56 PM
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on July 26, 2016, 02:08:16 PM
Screw the Gorn and their homing plasma torpedos. Just sayin'.

I have the original FASA RPG books too (light/powder blue covers, three of them). I'd be interested just for the reading material itself.

Sounds like you have the 2nd edition of FASA. The 1st edition had one rulebook with a color front. Here's mine next to classic Traveller:

(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aarcentral.com%2Fpics%2FTravtrek.jpg&hash=c96e684d5de3a3ee716a2a5b3be865f14f94a750)

Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: mirth on July 26, 2016, 04:54:57 PM
I have 2nd edition of FASA's ST RPG. 3 core books, plus I have a bunch of expansions & scenario books. It was a pretty good system.
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Dammit Carl! on July 26, 2016, 05:30:15 PM
I got lucky and found the FASA boxed set with the deckplans for the Enterprise and D7 as well as having 2 additional sourcebooks at an antique store in South Carolina years back.

Same thing goes for the LUG Romulan and Starfleet Academy boxed sets. 
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: mirth on July 26, 2016, 05:32:00 PM
^good score. Those deck plans are rare.
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: BanzaiCat on July 26, 2016, 07:48:23 PM
I had the 2nd edition, yep. Spent MANY afternoons in the summertime at my grandparent's apartment off of Old Columbia Pike near Silver Spring, MD building countless officers for numerous ships.

I remember on one of our outings (I know I mentioned this before but can't remember where), I found a Top Secret RPG and a set of D-7 deck plans. I went with Top Secret and I think you guys berated me for it, but hey, I had literally multiple weeks to fill and just staring at a D-7 deck plan and memorizing it wasn't going to cut it. I spent a lot of time building a bunch of secret agents in that game, too.
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Dammit Carl! on July 26, 2016, 08:29:04 PM
Serious statement here:  if I can. I'll be happy to scan the deck plans in as pdf and distribute.  Will be to scale as I've got a 36 inch width machine to use (the joys of working for engineers, eh).  Looks to be 11x17 double sided by my estimate.

If I'm in the wrong here, mods please kill this reply, eh?
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: bayonetbrant on July 26, 2016, 08:52:18 PM
Quote from: Dammit Carl! on July 26, 2016, 08:29:04 PM
Serious statement here:  if I can. I'll be happy to scan the deck plans in as pdf and distribute.  Will be to scale as I've got a 36 inch width machine to use (the joys of working for engineers, eh).  Looks to be 11x17 double sided by my estimate.

If I'm in the wrong here, mods please kill this reply, eh?

C:-) C:-) C:-)  MOD HAT ON   C:-) C:-) C:-)

We're not going to kill it, so that we can point out that while we can't stop you from infringing on someone's copyrights (we're not the cops), please don't use our forums to make such offers to others so that we don't get in trouble.

Thanks!
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Dammit Carl! on July 26, 2016, 09:19:19 PM
No problem.  No boat rocking here intended.  Didn't know how something that old would still be touchy but certainly ain't going to cause you guys problems.

Backing away slowly...no eye contact...dulcet tones...
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: BanzaiCat on July 27, 2016, 06:37:06 AM
 :'( :-\ :-X
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: bbmike on July 27, 2016, 06:40:02 AM
Quote from: Dammit Carl! on July 26, 2016, 09:19:19 PM
No problem.  No boat rocking here intended.  Didn't know how something that old would still be touchy but certainly ain't going to cause you guys problems.

Backing away slowly...no eye contact...dulcet tones...

And you want to be our drunken Yeoman...
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Dammit Carl! on July 27, 2016, 07:21:20 AM
Well, I did post that while drunk, so I'm in character at least.

Deckplan copy query submitted to FASA, so we'll see where it goes.
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: mirth on July 27, 2016, 08:36:32 AM
I don't want to turn this into a copyright discussion but the old FASA materials are all available online as scans. I'll leave it at that.
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: bbmike on July 27, 2016, 08:37:53 AM
^ Hey! You were going to be our Security Chief!
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: mirth on July 27, 2016, 08:40:05 AM
A good Chief knows all the angles.
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Dammit Carl! on July 27, 2016, 08:48:31 AM
Did get a reply from FASA - I can make copies for the immediate gaming group only so... O0
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: bbmike on July 27, 2016, 09:22:31 AM
Quote from: Dammit Carl! on July 27, 2016, 08:48:31 AM
Did get a reply from FASA - I can make copies for the immediate gaming group only so... O0

Wow, that's really cool!  O0
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: BanzaiCat on July 27, 2016, 09:25:46 AM
Do we count as an 'immediate gaming group?'

Granted, it's kinda stretching the definition... :D
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Dammit Carl! on July 27, 2016, 09:27:14 AM
I leave such matters to bigger brains than I've got; I've reenlisted several times, so I can't be too bright.   :crazy2:
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: bbmike on July 27, 2016, 10:04:58 AM
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on July 27, 2016, 09:25:46 AM
Do we count as an 'immediate gaming group?'

Granted, it's kinda stretching the definition... :D

Not if he starts our play-by-forum game here.  ^-^
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: BanzaiCat on July 27, 2016, 10:07:42 AM
An excellent suggestion, bbmike.  O0
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Double Deuce on July 27, 2016, 11:48:24 AM
Quote from: bbmike on July 27, 2016, 10:04:58 AM
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on July 27, 2016, 09:25:46 AM
Do we count as an 'immediate gaming group?'

Granted, it's kinda stretching the definition... :D

Not if he starts our play-by-forum game here.  ^-^

Well, we could use a good play by post game here.   O0
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: mirth on July 27, 2016, 12:17:09 PM
I'll play a Red Shirt.
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: bbmike on November 24, 2016, 05:42:36 PM
Just received my links to the Alpha version rules and other items. Time to read up on some (hopefully) goodness!
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Nefaro on November 25, 2016, 12:31:43 AM
Quote from: bbmike on November 24, 2016, 05:42:36 PM
Just received my links to the Alpha version rules and other items. Time to read up on some (hopefully) goodness!

Damn!  They're moving fast!

I only received the pre-production draft of their previous title based on the 2d20 system within the past couple weeks ( the new Conan RPG). 
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Martok on November 25, 2016, 03:36:59 AM
Aw, man.  I could've happily gone the rest of my life without knowing this existed/was being released.  Now it's another game whose charms I must resist... 
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Dammit Carl! on November 25, 2016, 07:28:34 AM
Quote from: Martok on November 25, 2016, 03:36:59 AM
Now it's another game whose charms I must resist...

Hah.  Your avatar is from Star Trek!  You can't resist it and you know it!  Shit is in the blood, man, in the blood!
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Martok on November 25, 2016, 08:42:34 AM
Have to try. 

<Setting this thread to "Ignore">
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: BanzaiCat on December 01, 2016, 07:46:14 AM
DC, just curious, did you create PDFs of those deck plans?  O:-)
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Dammit Carl! on December 01, 2016, 07:55:13 AM
You know, no...totally slipped the ol' brainpan.  Will have to remedy that next week!
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: BanzaiCat on December 01, 2016, 07:57:37 AM
No hurry at all, sir. It took me six months to follow up...LOL. No worries at all.
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: bbmike on December 01, 2016, 08:18:53 AM
Also ask him if he's ready to run our Play by Forum game!  :dreamer:
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 01, 2016, 10:11:29 PM
playtesting is open!

http://geekandsundry.com/star-trek-rpg-playtest-launches-led-by-nyt-bestselling-author/
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Dammit Carl! on December 02, 2016, 08:26:32 AM
Schweeeeettt!!!  :bd:
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: bbmike on December 02, 2016, 08:38:27 AM
I glanced at the documents and was confused like usual. I'll have to spend some more quality time with them later.
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Dammit Carl! on December 02, 2016, 08:58:54 AM
...and signed up for the Lexington playtest!  TOS or bust!
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: bbmike on May 24, 2017, 06:23:25 AM
Looks like pre-orders for this start in a couple of weeks. I'm still not 100% sold on the game yet. I have signed up to play it at Origins so more thoughts to come.

Of course, I will buy it and all of the accessories. I mean, it is Star Trek. And just take a look at that Worf mini!

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/1889/5g9YH8.jpg)
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Nefaro on May 24, 2017, 08:08:58 AM
Quote from: bbmike on May 24, 2017, 06:23:25 AM
Looks like pre-orders for this start in a couple of weeks. I'm still not 100% sold on the game yet. I have signed up to play it at Origins so more thoughts to come.

Of course, I will buy it and all of the accessories. I mean, it is Star Trek. And just take a look at that Worf mini!




They're beginning shipping of the Conan core book this week, and are supposed to have them all shipped before two more.  So I imagine efforts will begin switching over to filling out the Star Trek line after that.

If you're concerned about Modiphius shirking on the amount of content, I don't think you have much to worry about.  After seeing how packed full of stuff their previous 2d20 system core books are, and the huge amount of densely packed 'splat' books they create alongside, I'm sure they'll cover an immense amount of the setting.  I'm impressed with the amount of writing done for Mutant Chronicles 3rd, and a similar quantity being done for the Conan line, too.  8)

The 2d20 system is also pretty cool.  I'm curious as to how it will be adapted to Star Trek, but it should fit pretty well.  Especially considering it already has implementations for crewing different positions on vehicles/starships, as one notable facet.
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: bbmike on May 31, 2017, 05:56:31 PM
This should probably be in the WANT! thread but here goes:

(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aarcentral.com%2Fpics%2Fborgbox.jpg&hash=1d69081e16b918ec85d658539e1465d5215ea350) (http://nerdapproved.com/gaming/the-star-trek-adventures-rpg/#more-168690)
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Crazy Girl on May 31, 2017, 05:58:44 PM
I'm I suppose to feel overwhelmed? That's how I feel right now.
I'm not smart enough for that. I'm just like, wow! Intense.
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Nefaro on June 02, 2017, 12:41:38 AM
They're not messing around!   :o
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Dammit Carl! on June 03, 2017, 01:41:26 PM
Mother of God...it's beautiful!   :dreamer:
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: bbmike on June 08, 2017, 08:40:02 AM
The pre-order is live! (https://www.modiphius.net/collections/star-trek-adventures) The prices seem way to high to me. I did order the core rules, dice and GM screen though.  :D
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Bison on June 08, 2017, 08:47:58 AM
What?  No minis?
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: mirth on June 08, 2017, 08:51:24 AM
Quote from: Bison on June 08, 2017, 08:47:58 AM
What?  No minis?

Those ain't cheap either.
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: bbmike on June 08, 2017, 08:56:02 AM
Quote from: mirth on June 08, 2017, 08:51:24 AM
Quote from: Bison on June 08, 2017, 08:47:58 AM
What?  No minis?

Those ain't cheap either.

Yep, that's exactly why I didn't get them. It was hard enough to bring myself to order the GM screen.
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: mirth on June 08, 2017, 08:59:33 AM
They are beautiful sculpts though.

I wish I had $500 to drop on the uber box set with everything.
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Bison on June 08, 2017, 09:07:49 AM
Well you can always just make your players show up in cosplay for immersion.
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Nefaro on June 09, 2017, 04:54:23 PM
Here ya go, Red Shirts:

The Pre-Orders are up and running.


https://www.modiphius.net/collections/star-trek-adventures
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: bbmike on June 09, 2017, 05:01:16 PM
Quote from: Nefaro on June 09, 2017, 04:54:23 PM
Here ya go, Red Shirts:

The Pre-Orders are up and running.


https://www.modiphius.net/collections/star-trek-adventures

You really should start reading entire threads.  ::)
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Nefaro on June 09, 2017, 05:10:27 PM
Quote from: bbmike on June 09, 2017, 05:01:16 PM
Quote from: Nefaro on June 09, 2017, 04:54:23 PM
Here ya go, Red Shirts:

The Pre-Orders are up and running.


https://www.modiphius.net/collections/star-trek-adventures

You really should start reading entire threads.  ::)


That would mean I'd have to filter through all the fondling of jibblies!   :))
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Bison on June 09, 2017, 08:27:13 PM
Quote from: bbmike on June 09, 2017, 05:01:16 PM
Quote from: Nefaro on June 09, 2017, 04:54:23 PM
Here ya go, Red Shirts:

The Pre-Orders are up and running.


https://www.modiphius.net/collections/star-trek-adventures

You really should start reading entire threads.  ::)

That's a request right up there with asking people to stay on topic, read the "front page," or not talk about My Little Pony wargames.
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Nefaro on June 09, 2017, 11:19:20 PM
Sad thing is...

I actually did read this whole thread.


Just not all at once....




(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.quotemaster.org%2Fimages%2F74%2F74608b0a149110df76965c05c80ce8f3.jpg&hash=9f054dc43596f3bc112295bd96bc247dfdf3d84e)
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: bbmike on June 10, 2017, 07:38:41 AM
Hi, Nefaro! Don't get the picture but glad to see you finally decided to post in this thread.  O0
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Nefaro on June 11, 2017, 01:14:49 PM
Quote from: bbmike on June 10, 2017, 07:38:41 AM
Hi, Nefaro! Don't get the picture but glad to see you finally decided to post in this thread.  O0


I'm a Modiphius fanboy, so I occasionally come back.  Like malaria or herpes.  :))

After owning books in their Achtung Cthulhu, Mutant Chronicles 3rd, Mutant Year Zero, and (now) Conan lines, I'll shamelessly sing praises of their quality & content.   :notworthy:  Even if I don't end up getting their ST rpg, I expect it will be great.
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: bbmike on June 30, 2017, 06:07:50 PM
Received my link for the Core Rules pdf. More good reading ahead.  O0
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Nefaro on June 30, 2017, 07:58:18 PM
Quote from: bbmike on June 30, 2017, 06:07:50 PM
Received my link for the Core Rules pdf. More good reading ahead.  O0


Is it a pre-release?  Or is it finalized, and all the art in?
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: bbmike on June 30, 2017, 08:30:45 PM
Mostly finalized. The art is in but there will be a few more text edits before release.
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Nefaro on July 10, 2017, 09:05:27 PM
After looking at the official character sheet, it seems like they tossed the Skills, in the new Star Trek.  In favor of a smaller set of skill categories, like the way monsters & NPCs were in previous 2d20 games.  Albeit with a few specialties taking place of the previous PC skill set.  ?

Not a big change.  Just saving character sheet space, I suppose.  ;)


I also wonder how they portrayed the Lifepath character creation in this one.  I thought it was pretty damn cool in MC3, but the Conan one leans more toward random generation, and simple picks of a list if that is preferred.  Perhaps they moved back toward the MC3 style with this one?  Plus it offers ship generation as part of it?  8)
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: bbmike on July 11, 2017, 05:40:53 AM
After more reading I'm not sure if I like these new 'streamlined' RPGs. Yes, the skills are gone and there are Focuses that can kind of replace them. Sure it may make the game move faster but I think this makes the characters too generic. I guess I like all the 'crunchiness' of RPGs that people seem to hate. For example, if you fire your phaser at something you use your Control attribute and Security discipline. Later, let's say your character is on a planet and fires a locally acquired musket at something. I guess that's Control and Security again with a difficulty modifier? And you can use Momentum to reduce that modifier back down? I'm still learning the system but I think I might prefer the skills of FASA and LUG.

Lifepath creation is a bit better. You do go through steps where you pick your background and career but it is nothing like FASAs system. I love the FASA system of character creation.  :smitten:
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Nefaro on July 11, 2017, 08:36:34 AM
Quote from: bbmike on July 11, 2017, 05:40:53 AM
After more reading I'm not sure if I like these new 'streamlined' RPGs. Yes, the skills are gone and there are Focuses that can kind of replace them. Sure it may make the game move faster but I think this makes the characters too generic. I guess I like all the 'crunchiness' of RPGs that people seem to hate. For example, if you fire your phaser at something you use your Control attribute and Security discipline. Later, let's say your character is on a planet and fires a locally acquired musket at something. I guess that's Control and Security again with a difficulty modifier? And you can use Momentum to reduce that modifier back down? I'm still learning the system but I think I might prefer the skills of FASA and LUG.

Lifepath creation is a bit better. You do go through steps where you pick your background and career but it is nothing like FASAs system. I love the FASA system of character creation.  :smitten:


I like skill-based systems, and was a bit surprised to see so much of it wiped from the 2d20 system in ST. 

There's definitely a sweet spot, regarding the right amount of skills available.  I'm sure it varies from person to person.  I think Conan's ~24 skills are around the higher end of what I'd prefer.  Edge of the Empire had a few more, maybe 28 or so, which is pushing it. 

But ST seems to effectively have 6 (?) categories equivalent to skills.  Skill-based systems are nice because they allow more customization, usually replacing "cookie cutter" classes.  But when there are so few, it begins to resemble a class-based system again despite still having some flexibility in the possible overlap.

I'm not familiar with the new ST, so I can't postulate on it much.  Just saw this noticeable change.  Perhaps there are lots of specializations available to make up for the much smaller skill set?  But Talents in previous 2d20 games were pretty cool in that each skill had a tree of them to pursue, themed on increasing ability in that skill.  There could be 4-9 of these extra special abilities available for each skill.  I wonder if those are similarly reduced down to only six trees, or whether there are just more in each.  Or maybe the 'Focuses' are intended to make up for some of it?

The damage model seems to be cut down quite a bit, too.  It used to be separate Mental and Physical damage & effect tracking.  Along with an optional Hit Location & Armor system, akin to WFRP/40k RPGs.


I get the impression that the 2d20 system was cut down quite a bit in Star Trek Adventures.  Likely to please some, but not others.  I'm leaning toward the "too cut down" side.  More so since what looks to be such widely reduced options probably makes the lifepath char-gen rather samey.  :-\  The 2d20 crunch was just about right, for me, before.

Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Nefaro on July 28, 2017, 01:45:54 PM
A look at the hardback print:





Looks pretty.


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I'm not a huge ST game fan, outside of the ship combat or grand strategy focused stuff.  Well.. I'd still probably volunteer to play it over the same 'ole D&D themed ones.  But with so many sci-fi RPGs out there, doubt I will pick this up.  Not a knock against it, other than the aforementioned oversimplification of the 2d20 system in this title.  Just comes down to theme, and 'crunch' to a lesser extent.  I'll probably pick up their other recent sci-fi release, Coriolis, before this one (as an example).
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: bbmike on July 28, 2017, 01:51:11 PM
Can't wait for it to arrive with the dice.  O0
I also have to say that the PDF looks great on my iPad.  :)
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Nefaro on July 28, 2017, 01:57:00 PM
Quote from: bbmike on July 28, 2017, 01:51:11 PM
Can't wait for it to arrive with the dice.  O0
I also have to say that the PDF looks great on my iPad.  :)


I recently received a couple Hit Location Dice (for MC3 & Conan) from Modiphius. 

I expected the white paint, or the symbol etchings, to be minutely flawed in some way.  Since it's a specialty die.  Nope.  They're impeccable.

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0225/4035/products/Hit_location_Dice_large.png?v=1460451823)

If all their dice are this quality, I may have to get some of the others in the future.
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Nefaro on October 10, 2017, 02:46:22 PM
Modiphius just put out a series of very short videos on how to play the Star Trek 2d20 system..

Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Cheimison on October 25, 2017, 01:59:50 PM
I REALLY like Prime Directive and want to get the GURPS 4E version of it. The setting in Prime Directive makes so much more sense than Star Trek, especially with all this ST:Discovery and ST:Enterprise stuff. The ancient empires and the wars of successor races, genetic engineering, so much better than actual Star Trek.
Though I modded phasers to be in line with GURPS particle beams, so they were vastly more deadly than in vanilla Prime Directive.
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: bbmike on November 08, 2017, 09:55:58 PM
Finally arrived today!  O0

(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aarcentral.com%2Fpics%2Fsta.jpg&hash=204278f8491319653181107bf119fbbc96dcfeec)
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: mirth on November 08, 2017, 09:59:19 PM
Needs more Alex Kurtzman.
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Nefaro on November 08, 2017, 10:08:43 PM
Quote from: bbmike on November 08, 2017, 09:55:58 PM
Finally arrived today!  O0



Smexy! 
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: bayonetbrant on November 09, 2017, 06:36:32 AM
not sure you got enough dice to go w/ it
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: bbmike on November 09, 2017, 08:34:20 AM
Quote from: mirth on November 08, 2017, 09:59:19 PM
Needs more Alex Kurtzman.

:knuppel2:
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: bbmike on November 09, 2017, 08:36:14 AM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on November 09, 2017, 06:36:32 AM
not sure you got enough dice to go w/ it

How could I not get the challenge dice in each division color? Besides, there are times you might need a lot of the d6 combat dice. See how I rationalize my purchases?  :buck2:
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: BanzaiCat on November 09, 2017, 09:02:29 AM
Haters gon' hate, bbmike. You can never have enough dice!
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: bayonetbrant on November 09, 2017, 09:43:08 AM
Quote from: bbmike on November 09, 2017, 08:36:14 AM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on November 09, 2017, 06:36:32 AM
not sure you got enough dice to go w/ it

How could I not get the challenge dice in each division color? Besides, there are times you might need a lot of the d6 combat dice. See how I rationalize my purchases?  :buck2:

You don't need to rationalize buying more dice...  sheesh.  I said you didn't have enough!
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: bbmike on November 09, 2017, 10:20:04 AM
^Good! Easy Roller Dice Co. just announced new dice sets (https://easyrollerdice.com/collections/7-piece-dice-set?__s=7wftsdqvdpku2k79rpwy)!  :D
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: bbmike on November 10, 2017, 02:35:06 PM
Actually I decided to buy the just released Mutant Crawl Classics: Kilra's Glow Dice (http://goodman-games.com/store/product/mutant-crawl-classics-kilras-glow-dice/). Because, you know, glow in the dark dice!

Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: BanzaiCat on November 10, 2017, 02:38:44 PM
I'm signed up on this dev's email list and they sent something earlier today about MOAR dice. I'm sure you got the same one, bbmike.

https://www.modiphius.net/collections/star-trek-adventures/products/star-trek-adventures-challenge-dice-set

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0225/4035/products/STA_BlackDice_MedRes.jpg?v=1510309416)
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: mirth on November 10, 2017, 02:39:45 PM
^my Nerd Sense is tingling!
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: BanzaiCat on November 10, 2017, 02:41:46 PM
The books and dice are damned pretty to look at...though way too expensive for a "just to have" buy. :(
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: bbmike on November 10, 2017, 02:44:06 PM
The book interior is beautiful. They did an outstanding job on it IMHO. I should probably think about a review eventually.
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Nefaro on November 10, 2017, 02:51:19 PM
Quote from: bbmike on November 10, 2017, 02:44:06 PM
The book interior is beautiful. They did an outstanding job on it IMHO. I should probably think about a review eventually.

I keep saying -  Modiphius has superb quality in their RPGs.

Been impressed with everything I've got from them.  Made me a fanboy.   :smitten:
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: bbmike on May 17, 2018, 09:59:45 AM
There's a Star Trek Aventures Starter Set (https://www.modiphius.net/collections/star-trek-adventures/products/star-trek-adventures-starter-set) up for pre-order for $27.99. Looks like a pretty good deal to me considering what you get.

(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aarcentral.com%2Fpics2%2FStarter_Set_Low-Res.jpg&hash=2020d90909e39ae380c1c87ba7302c71d96a18fe)
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: mirth on May 17, 2018, 01:18:17 PM
^that looks good
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: BanzaiCat on May 17, 2018, 01:27:14 PM
It does. Can you play it solo?

:P
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: mirth on May 17, 2018, 01:28:30 PM
Quote from: BanzaiCat on May 17, 2018, 01:27:14 PM
It does. Can you play it solo?

You definitely can.

Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: BanzaiCat on May 17, 2018, 01:29:05 PM
Bonus if I'm schitzo I guess.
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: mirth on May 17, 2018, 01:33:43 PM
(https://factandfiction.webnode.com/_files/200000337-bbc92bcc35/thui.jpg)
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: bbmike on May 17, 2018, 01:37:23 PM
Quote from: BanzaiCat on May 17, 2018, 01:27:14 PM
It does. Can you play it solo?

:P

It's like gameleaper never existed.  ::)
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: mirth on May 17, 2018, 01:39:54 PM
He was fun :P
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: BanzaiCat on May 17, 2018, 01:45:17 PM
I don't think anyone could get to gameleaper levels.
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: mirth on May 17, 2018, 01:46:59 PM
blingy blobby
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: BanzaiCat on May 17, 2018, 02:14:39 PM
Close, but your post is far too condensed.
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: bbmike on May 22, 2018, 01:14:01 PM
Star Trek Adventures online character generator (https://sta.modiphiusapps.hostinguk.org/) is up. Just don't expect it to be as fun as generating a FASA character.   :P
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: mirth on June 21, 2018, 07:24:09 PM
Here ya go, bbmike. Pretty much every Star Trek blueprint or deck plan you could ever want.

http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/blueprints-main2.php
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Staggerwing on June 21, 2018, 07:27:57 PM
Quote from: BanzaiCat on May 17, 2018, 01:27:14 PM
It does. Can you play it solo?

:P

[rimshot] No, that's the Star Wars RPG... [/rimshot]
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: mirth on June 21, 2018, 07:29:58 PM
Quote from: Staggerwing on June 21, 2018, 07:27:57 PM
Quote from: BanzaiCat on May 17, 2018, 01:27:14 PM
It does. Can you play it solo?

:P

[rimshot] No, that's the Star Wars RPG... [/rimshot]

http://instantrimshot.com/index.php?sound=rimshot&play=true
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Staggerwing on June 21, 2018, 07:34:57 PM
^ More better if it played automatically. Are there any sound thingamabobs for web browsers that web lackies can add to the forum posting widgits?


EDIT: just noticed that they have a Wilhelm Scream button. Cooooollll....
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: mirth on June 21, 2018, 07:40:13 PM
my personal favorite

http://instantrimshot.com/index.php?sound=priceiswrong&play=true
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: bbmike on June 21, 2018, 08:35:22 PM
Quote from: mirth on June 21, 2018, 07:24:09 PM
Here ya go, bbmike. Pretty much every Star Trek blueprint or deck plan you could ever want.

http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/blueprints-main2.php

That's a nice find! Good reference for running a Star Trek RPG.  :bd:
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: Dammit Carl! on June 22, 2018, 07:49:22 AM
Quote from: mirth on June 21, 2018, 07:24:09 PM
Here ya go, bbmike. Pretty much every Star Trek blueprint or deck plan you could ever want.

http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/blueprints-main2.php

:notworthy:
Title: Re: New Star Trek RPG on the way
Post by: mirth on June 22, 2018, 08:09:29 AM
Quote from: bbmike on June 21, 2018, 08:35:22 PM
Good reference for running a Star Trek RPG.  :bd:

that's what I was thinking.