Well, of course I caved on this as well....picked it up today (can't resist Star Wars, whether good or bad) and so far totally completed the 1st mission and a little of the 2nd. Also got some time in with the single player Arcade mode.
I won't go into spoilers, but the first two missions had a good feel to it....of course linear kind of feel but love the graphics and Star Wars atmosphere. Guns a blazing with the sound of lasers! First mission had a little stealth/blast your way out fun across a ship and the 2nd put me on a planet for continuing dealing death blows to my enemy. It's a unique feel as you play as the Empire....and I feel a little guilty as I line up the Rebel scum for head kill shots!
Arcade mode seems like it could be good light fun too for those that don't like multiplayer....basically allows you to setup a battle and play against bots for training. Had a good time running around as Rey slicing the bad guys! I can see myself playing this mode for some good mindless fun in the Star Wars universe.
I didn't bother trying multiplayer yet, really not why I bought it and likely won't play that much anyways.
If the rest of the game continues down this path, I can see myself enjoying it, nothing earth shattering...like COD WW2, I didn't expect this to be game of the year material and it certainly won't be mine. But I feel like a little kid in a Star Wars sandbox so I will get some decent fun out of it. The campaign is supposed to last 5-8 hours, which on the surface does seem short but sounds like they are already adding additional single player missions in December so maybe they will continue to make it more robust.
Are you ready for the loot boxes?
nope, very little interest in multiplayer with or without loot boxes.
How are you playing this? It doesn't release until 11/17?
There is some kind of special edition out now and if you buy it you get to start playing it early. To me, the space flight sim of the game looks very good but I'm not sure about the on foot combat. I have to see map sizes first.
https://www.origin.com/usa/en-us/store/star-wars/star-wars-battlefront-2/deluxe-edition
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on November 12, 2017, 06:28:45 PM
How are you playing this? It doesn't release until 11/17?
ea has early access...it's a subscription you can buy to play games early up to 10 hours plus you can play other games they have.
^That doesn't release until 11/14. I think the only way to be playing now is with the First Trial which is only accessible if you have a subscription to Origins Access.
EDIT: Ninja'd by Grim
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on November 12, 2017, 06:46:06 PM
^That doesn't release until 11/14. I think the only way to be playing now is with the First Trial which is only accessible if you have a subscription to Origins Access.
EDIT: Ninja'd by Grim
I stand corrected. I knew I saw it somewhere earlier today when I had Battlefield 1 open. That must have been it.
Fully completed the 2nd mission which turned into a space dogfight.....flight controls take a little getting use to. But in the end the x-wing and y-wings were no match!
In the early access you can only play the first 3-missions of the campaign so I will save the last mission for another day this week.
I'm having a lot of fun with it. It's a much better game than the first Battlefront, which I was turned off of in the Beta.
But yeah, the loot crate system is absolutely horrific, especially since the heroes are locked behind a credit paywall. You essentially have to decide to pay in game credits to level your character, or pay them to buy a hero and instead rely on real money to progress.
But, man it's really solidly well made. The starfighter assault mode alone is worth the price of admission. You just have to ignore the progression side of the game.
Does it accept joystick input?
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on November 12, 2017, 11:30:23 PM
Does it accept joystick input?
Nope, but it's much easier to use emulators like Joytokey to make up for it than the previous game.
As much as I want to use my HOTAS, the Starfighter Assault is fun even without. It's completely viable to fly from the cockpit, even preferred for a couple of the ships. It's not even remotely comparable to Battlefront 2015 and it's the most fun I've had in a starfighter since Tie Fighter.
OK, I hope it's better because using M+KB to try to fly fighters in Star Wars: Battlefront was not fun at all.
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on November 13, 2017, 01:32:14 AM
OK, I hope it's better because using M+KB to try to fly fighters in Star Wars: Battlefront was not fun at all.
i am using an xbox controller for the pc to play and so far pretty straight forward. didn't even try using the mouse and keyboard, no idea how easy that would be but nowadays i mostly stick to controllers even if not as precise as mouse when targeting.
Quote from: SirAndrewD on November 12, 2017, 11:20:13 PM
I'm having a lot of fun with it. It's a much better game than the first Battlefront, which I was turned off of in the Beta.
But yeah, the loot crate system is absolutely horrific, especially since the heroes are locked behind a credit paywall. You essentially have to decide to pay in game credits to level your character, or pay them to buy a hero and instead rely on real money to progress.
But, man it's really solidly well made. The starfighter assault mode alone is worth the price of admission. You just have to ignore the progression side of the game.
Are you talking multi-player here specifically?
Quote from: SirAndrewD on November 12, 2017, 11:20:13 PM
I'm having a lot of fun with it. It's a much better game than the first Battlefront, which I was turned off of in the Beta.
But yeah, the loot crate system is absolutely horrific, especially since the heroes are locked behind a credit paywall. You essentially have to decide to pay in game credits to level your character, or pay them to buy a hero and instead rely on real money to progress.
But, man it's really solidly well made. The starfighter assault mode alone is worth the price of admission. You just have to ignore the progression side of the game.
Somebody mentioned above that this game has a space sim side to it? But then somebody mentioned no joystick?
Is it better than XWING or Tie Fighter?
Quote from: Destraex on November 13, 2017, 04:57:27 AM
Quote from: SirAndrewD on November 12, 2017, 11:20:13 PM
I'm having a lot of fun with it. It's a much better game than the first Battlefront, which I was turned off of in the Beta.
But yeah, the loot crate system is absolutely horrific, especially since the heroes are locked behind a credit paywall. You essentially have to decide to pay in game credits to level your character, or pay them to buy a hero and instead rely on real money to progress.
But, man it's really solidly well made. The starfighter assault mode alone is worth the price of admission. You just have to ignore the progression side of the game.
Somebody mentioned above that this game has a space sim side to it? But then somebody mentioned no joystick?
Is it better than XWING or Tie Fighter?
Not comparable in my opinion. Battlefront space battles is not meant to be a deep flight experience, more arcade and light. With that said, I still find it enjoyable.
Quote from: Moreb on November 12, 2017, 06:42:13 PM
There is some kind of special edition out now and if you buy it you get to start playing it early. To me, the space flight sim of the game looks very good but I'm not sure about the on foot combat. I have to see map sizes first.
https://www.origin.com/usa/en-us/store/star-wars/star-wars-battlefront-2/deluxe-edition
space flight sim?
https://twitter.com/AngryJoeShow/status/930025206730690560
Dogfight sequence then. Is there a reason to split hairs?
Quote from: Moreb on November 13, 2017, 11:22:40 AM
Dogfight sequence then. Is there a reason to split hairs?
Only I suppose to prevent people from thinking there's anything remotely relating to a space flight sim in this game. Someone
might decide to get it based on that. Not me though - I research the games I buy :DD
^Indeed. There is no "space flight sim" portion to the game. There is an arcade starfighter portion that is far deeper than the one offered in Battlefront 2015 and a lot closer to what you had in the original 2005 Battlefront 2. I'd say it compares pretty well to War Thunder.
The space portion is very fun and aims hard towards a cinematic experience. If played properly, the maps are objective based and heavily Star Wars inspired, so lots of opposed torpedo runs against shield generators, droid control nodes, main reactors ect. You WILL die a lot, but that's the point, you're the guys that didn't live in the Death Star trench run. Once you play the objectives enough and rack up enough points in the map, you can switch to hero ships like Vader's Tie or Luke's X-Wing and start wrecking people.
So, don't expect X-Wing vs Tie Fighter. Expect 2005 Battlefront meets War Thunder.
This video has a pretty good rundown of the biggest problem in the box/progression system.
I'm hopeful the current outcry makes a dent in EA, because the game is really good outside of this madness..
Wow...a really damning video. Hard to believe this is happening in the gaming world. Glad I don't play this genre of game. :'(
And EA craps their pants and backpedals. Hero costs just took a step back across the board. I wonder what will be done for those that already blew a ton of money to get enough credits to get an early buy.
Sometimes negative backlashes make a difference...
https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/battlefront/battlefront-2/news/swbfii-changes-launch?utm_campaign=swbf2_hd_ww_ic_soco_twt_swbfii-launchchangesblog-tw&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&****=41287&ts=1510608670004
Good to see, because the fact that all expansions and DLC will be freely released content has me VERRRYYYYY interested in this one.
I feel that even without a dime spent, either real or in credits, on loot crates, the game is worth it.
The game is essentially the anti-Battlefront 2015. Even the single player campaign is good, and does not feel like a bolted on bot fest. I haven't dug too far into it, but it's some of the most fun I've had in a Star Wars shooter since the old Dark Forces days. Also, I have to give a lot of respect for ANY single player Star Wars experience that unapologeticly and totally commits to being from the viewpoint of the Empire.
Oh, and the future DLC will add to the single player portion, and provide some background into the founding of the First Order and lead into Last Jedi.
In a way, this makes it even more sad that it's got the loot crate system bolted on. DICE made a great game that listened to every criticism of their failed outing in 2015 and made up for it. EA then made sure to monetize the heck out of progression to make up for the fact that they're avoiding prices on season passes and DLC. They finally managed to put a mobile game cash grab system into something worth buying and playing.
The way I see it, I'm rewarding DICE with the sticker price for the game and the $5 I paid for a month of EA Access to play the trial. I'm not going to reward EA with any micro transactions from there on. May be a bit of a Devil's bargain, but oh well, I'm having fun with it.
I'm a bit disappointed about playing the Imperial forces...I wanted to play some of my fav characters from the Rebels, including Rogue One (easily the best one of all the Star Wars films imo).
But I was still going to get this.
I now just have to hold onto my cash when TOAW IV is released to be able to get this
Quote from: JudgeDredd on November 14, 2017, 01:27:08 AM
I'm a bit disappointed about playing the Imperial forces...I wanted to play some of my fav characters from the Rebels, including Rogue One (easily the best one of all the Star Wars films imo).
But I was still going to get this.
I now just have to hold onto my cash when TOAW IV is released to be able to get this
Imagine the horror of loyal Imperials high fiving their victory on Endor, and then looking up at their beautiful instrument of victory in the sky, the Death Star, and watching it explode.
Then...
The screams of the Ewoks, thirsting, hunting..
They're hunting us. From the trees. They're in the trees!
The campaign has a lot to offer even if it's not our favorite characters.
Oh - yeah - Ewoks. I hope you Stormtroopers brushed up on your tickling skills! :knuppel2:
Sir Andrew
does the MP battles feel good also
did the developers had found the right balance between an arcade and a more "realistic" one shot kills approach,
(i hope its not tooo arcade)
and is first person view/cockpit view available in all situation (i guess not when operating a lightsaber-whirling hero, which is total understandable)
is there a bit of destructible/degrading environment like in Battlefield 1?
is there a bit of difference between cover an concealment ?
does at least the Rebels side is able to duck ( to avoid the contested word kneel ^-^ ) or even can get prone
i could understand that Stormtroopers never do that cause of their doctrine and SOPs, but IIRC i saw Rebels kneeling in corridors and going prone in the movies
i am on the fence O0
Quote from: Moreb on November 13, 2017, 11:22:40 AM
Dogfight sequence then. Is there a reason to split hairs?
No, just showing people why I got my hopes up 1% higher than they should have been and started asking about it. :P
People that know me here will know I don't consider it splitting hairs, I don't think a lot of wargamers would. Well those that argue about brass buttons on uniforms being incorrectly placed anyways.
Nothing personal, just the way I roll.
From War Thunder's FB feed.
(https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/fr/cp0/e15/q65/23550947_495644187475552_7540928582073239058_o.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=eeb9149dd1c00399a507257b69dbe0f6&oe=5A93FD46)
Quote from: MikeGER on November 14, 2017, 03:04:02 AM
does the MP battles feel good also
did the developers had found the right balance between an arcade and a more "realistic" one shot kills approach,
and is first person view/cockpit view available in all situation (i guess not when operating a lightsaber-whirling hero, which is total understandable)
is there a bit of destructible/degrading environment like in Battlefield 1?
is there a bit of difference between cover an concealment ?
does at least the Rebels side is able to duck ( to avoid the contested word kneel ^-^ ) or even can get prone
i could understand that Stormtroopers never do that cause of their doctrine and SOPs, but IIRC i saw Rebels kneeling in corridors and going prone in the movies
Yeah, the MP feels very good. Battles progress via phases and have a very Star Wars feel. Weapons all feel like they do something different, and playing the objective is massively more rewarded than racking up kills.
Time to kill I feel is pretty decent. It's absolutely not one shot one kill, but that's fine as it discourages COD style run and gun play. Both you and the enemy can take some damage before going down, and this is why you should stick to squads and play the objective.
First person and cockpit view is available on all the ships and classes, with the exception of some of the heroes. It's a mixed bag on if you will want to use the cockpit on all the ships. On some it's good, others an improvement on third person, and yet others it's actually a major handicap.
The environment is not freely destructible, but it will take cosmetic blaster damage as the battle goes on. There is also some scripted destruction as the battle moves between phases.
There's no specific cover mechanic, but there is suppression by heavy weapons. You can kneel, and it's actually useful when you're using a shield as it provides full cover against incoming fire while crouched. Still, the game is meant to be fought Star Wars style, in the open and with daring feats of heroism that generally results in death.
All the maps do have a lot of good terrain to hide behind though.
If you're on the fence check out some lets plays on Youtube, they're pretty representative of what you'll get. Also pay attention to all the info about the loot crate system. It's nefarious, greedy and draconian and does absolutely drag the product down. Some are boycotting the game because of the progression system, and in honesty, I don't blame them. The trend this game is following is troubling and very bad for both gamers and gaming. I just found the game too much fun personally to pass on it completely.
When you talk about loot boxes and progression, you're talking about MP, right?
Quote from: JudgeDredd on November 14, 2017, 02:04:24 PM
When you talk about loot boxes and progression, you're talking about MP, right?
Yes. They're not tied to the single player campaign at all.
Cool.
Well finished my third and final mission available in the early access....mostly a space battle and was entertaining....now just need to wait until the final release to continue the campaign.
Sir Andrew, THX for the detailed headup :)
mmmm....the more I read about this game and it's loot boxes, the more I'm thinking perhaps I shouldn't signal to EA that their model is ok.
They wouldn't really affect me. If I do play online, it would be in and out here and there - but - by buying, regardless of whether I'm affected by loot boxes or not, I'm telling EA it's ok to shovel this stuff out. And that could affect me in the future.
I am really torn on whether to support this or not... :pullhair: :pullhair:
Quote from: JudgeDredd on November 16, 2017, 02:05:32 PM
mmmm....the more I read about this game and it's loot boxes, the more I'm thinking perhaps I shouldn't signal to EA that their model is ok.
They wouldn't really affect me. If I do play online, it would be in and out here and there - but - by buying, regardless of whether I'm affected by loot boxes or not, I'm telling EA it's ok to shovel this stuff out. And that could affect me in the future.
I am really torn on whether to support this or not... :pullhair: :pullhair:
over thinking:)
if you like the material, go for it....
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on November 16, 2017, 02:14:55 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on November 16, 2017, 02:05:32 PM
mmmm....the more I read about this game and it's loot boxes, the more I'm thinking perhaps I shouldn't signal to EA that their model is ok.
They wouldn't really affect me. If I do play online, it would be in and out here and there - but - by buying, regardless of whether I'm affected by loot boxes or not, I'm telling EA it's ok to shovel this stuff out. And that could affect me in the future.
I am really torn on whether to support this or not... :pullhair: :pullhair:
over thinking:)
if you like the material, go for it....
I know
But there is another game from another development team that at least deserves money and support.
Well - I'll see. I'll most likely be in tomorrow - I'm not buying TOAW IV anyway until I can get the postage cheaper.
The way I looked at it, my money to buy the game was for DICE, as they did what they didn't do in 2015 and made a really good Star Wars game.
My decision to spend $0 on loot crates is my decision not to support EA, who I'm quite sure is almost wholly responsible for the system being grafted on to the game anyway.
As it is, I've managed to earn enough credits from the Campaign and matches to afford crates and heroes without issue. I got lucky and got several good cards on my fighter that has it at level 16, which is higher than most people in matches. It hasn't kept me from being killed and hasn't vaulted me to #1 any more regularly than when my fighter was level 0. If you don't spend money on the game, it's not going to put you in a hole, at least not after EA lowered the cost of heroes.
I suppose I'm not supporting their model if I don't buy loot crates, which I wouldn't.
Excellent rationalization O0
Quote from: mirth on November 16, 2017, 02:50:56 PM
Excellent rationalization O0
Are you taka de pees? :2funny:
Quote from: JudgeDredd on November 16, 2017, 02:45:16 PM
I suppose I'm not supporting their model if I don't buy loot crates, which I wouldn't.
and consider you could kick my ass all over Tatooine or Hoth ^-^
i took the plunge (PC version) and i am downloading and played a little arcade mode while its downloading
i don't care much about the crates (and will surly not buy one single one)
...even just standing in a corner of a map and soaking in the cinematographic atmosphere is good.
(TOAW IV will be on sale sooner or later and than it will be still the same game (experience), while StarWars is more like a recent event and when you get that when its on sale, the servers will be either empty or full of highest level super nerds all with all the legendary stuff and you provide just an easy target for their amusement ...that was part of my thoughts when making the decision)
One thing that worries me is that there's some long wait times on the servers on PC. I'd expect them to be popping very regularly, but I actually couldn't find a match of Starfighter Assault after I got home from work today (and I was itching to blow stuff up after 7 hours of Sixth Graders).
I'm hoping that the negative backlash on the crate system hasn't resulted in an early death to the servers. I know the game hasn't released for non Deluxe Edition buyers, but I expected a much higher population in non-primetime.
And here we go. The buyable Loot Crate progression system has been removed from the game.
https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/battlefront/battlefront-2/news/pre-launch-update?utm_campaign=swbf2_hd_na_ic_soco_twt_swbfii-prelaunchblog-tw&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&cid=42029&ts=1510882077024
Now the question is, what happens to all the people that DID spend money on crates? Do they get to keep their stuff while everyone else has to grind? If they don't, are they going to have an option to be refunded? I can see EA opening up a big can of worms if they take the purchased items away with no option for a refund.
(https://i.redd.it/iy640iitgeyz.jpg)
http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/16/technology/battlefront-ii-star-wars-game-ea-costs/index.html
I love how EA makes it sound like they're doing customers a favor by "tuning" the game
https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/battlefront/battlefront-2/news/swbfii-changes-launch
This kinda sorta makes me want to get this game now.
Downloading now - will be playing in a couple of hours :)
Quote from: JudgeDredd on November 17, 2017, 12:57:10 PM
Downloading now - will be playing in a couple of hours :)
Good. Gooooood.
Do what must be done. Do not hesitate. Show no mercy.
My training is almost complete. The Dark Side awaits.
You joined the Dark Side when you gave EA your money :P
I don't see what all the nego fuss is about, the game is fun as hell loot crate or no loot crate. The SP campaign alone is worth the price of admission. The only thing that would be better than this would be a totally different game, like an RPG of conan exiles or elite dangerous, but its star wars.
Quote from: Skoop on November 17, 2017, 02:36:40 PM
The SP campaign alone is worth the price of admission.
I'm not sure a 4-5 hour solo campaign in any game is worth $60 :-\
Quote from: mirth on November 17, 2017, 02:42:04 PM
I'm not sure a 4-5 hour solo campaign in any game is worth $60 :-\
Yeah, having played through it in two sittings, I'd have to agree.
Surprisingly not tacked on and not awful is more what I'd say.
It's fun, it's a very good compliment to the game and it's got a few really good story beats that add something to the canon. It also adds a better understanding to who and what the First Order is and stands for in the sequels. I'm shocked that I enjoyed it, as I expected DICE to just bolt on a story light bot fest.
The game itself however is worth the sticker price, especially with future DLC free. And I actually had no problem with the idea that you could buy progression with real cash. The problem I had, and still do is that credit earning for people that don't want to spend money is stunted to encourage real spending, and the crate system is so random as to be pointless as a true progression.
Now that monetization has been removed, I hope EA will move quickly to fix those issues. Even with the problems there, the actual game is very fun and well done.
I have no doubt I'll pick this up at some point (my son is already badgering me about it) but it will be when it is steeply discounted. However, I will admit to being more than a bit jealous of you guys who have it already.
Quote from: SirAndrewD on November 17, 2017, 02:55:22 PM
Surprisingly not tacked on and not awful is more what I'd say.
It's fun, it's a very good compliment to the game and it's got a few really good story beats that add something to the canon. It also adds a better understanding to who and what the First Order is and stands for in the sequels. I'm shocked that I enjoyed it, as I expected DICE to just bolt on a story light bot fest.
This is completely in line with what I've been reading in reviews.
How very annoying. I started downloading this over 3 hours ago.
2 screens opened up...both showing a counter for download - one was the Battlefront II window and the other was my Origin window.
I left both open - not wanting to break the download process. When I came back in my fans were going mental on my computer and it had still only downloaded 50% or so. I decided to kill the Battlefront II window because all 4 cores were running at 70% and memory in use was up to 6GB.
As soon as I closed that window, fans slowed, my 4 cores dropped to 20%, my memory is down to 3GB and - more importantly - download is estimated at 20 minutes!!
So that Battlefront II window - which was doing sod all - was hogging my entire system AND slowing my download considerably!! :knuppel2:
I think the Battlefront II window that opens during download is a portal to play around in arcade mode while it downloads. Not 100% sure though since I preloaded.
Origin should download everything on its own.
It was - but I was wary to shut it for fear of stopping the huge download.
I very baffled why a window - which appeared to do nothing apart from show a counter was ramming my memory and all 4 cores
Quote from: mirth on November 17, 2017, 03:07:50 PM
I will admit to being more than a bit jealous of you guys who have it already.
Let your jealousy turn to anger. Embrace your hatred and let it fuel you! It gives you focus, makes you stronger!
Give in to your feelings!
Only that way can you bring true peace and justice to the Galaxy.
Quote from: JudgeDredd on November 17, 2017, 05:13:25 PM
It was - but I was wary to shut it for fear of stopping the huge download.
That's what she said!
Yikes, sorry, it's Friday. No work tomorrow.
lol - no - that's what she used to say :2funny:
Quote from: JudgeDredd on November 18, 2017, 01:13:59 AM
lol - no - that's what she used to say :2funny:
Aha! Saw what you did there.
Anyway, anyone wants to friend me, I'm SargePinback in Origin. Not like we can play together as far as I can see, at least in the current form of the matchmaking system.
20,000 Quatloos to those that get what my Origin name refers to.
Quote from: SirAndrewD on November 18, 2017, 01:17:15 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on November 18, 2017, 01:13:59 AM
lol - no - that's what she used to say :2funny:
Aha! Saw what you did there.
Anyway, anyone wants to friend me, I'm SargePinback in Origin. Not like we can play together as far as I can see, at least in the current form of the matchmaking system.
20,000 Quatloos to those that get what my Origin name refers to.
haha - Dark Star O0
Holy Crap - this games production values are outstanding.
Tell us more :dreamer:
You can't kill the Ewoks.
I've tried. A lot.
http://thefederalist.com/2017/11/17/shouldnt-buy-star-wars-battlefront-ii-today/
A story about a backlash about the game's supposed pay to win: Inside the huge consumer backlash against Star Wars Battlefront II (http://www.cbc.ca/radio/day6/episode-364-evangelicals-for-roy-moore-battlefront-ii-outrage-grace-mugabe-puerto-rico-s-power-grid-more-1.4401739/inside-the-huge-consumer-backlash-against-star-wars-battlefront-ii-1.4401775?cmp=rss)
"This week, the video game's publisher faced a massive consumer revolt over accusations that Battlefront II encourages competitive players to "pay to win" — not to mention accusations that the game's monetization scheme amounts to gambling for kids."
Quote from: SirAndrewD on November 18, 2017, 04:39:52 PM
You can't kill the Ewoks.
I've tried. A lot.
That's pretty annoying. Of all the things I'd love to kill in a Star Wars game...
Quote from: Gusington on November 18, 2017, 03:58:59 PM
Tell us more :dreamer:
Just what's been said really. They've very much captured the Star Wars world. And it looks stunning to boot.
I'm having an absolute blast with it - pun intended.
It even got a large topic in a mainstream consumer program on the Dutch TV last night :
https://kassa.bnnvara.nl/media/379398 (dutch language)
Local gambling authorities in the Netherlands, Belgium and the UK have started investigations into gambling in games.
They believe that games include matchmaking algorithms that put a few regular gamers in matches with other gamers who have premium items or weapons, forcing them to buy these with real money if they want to be competitive.
They also seem to conclude that when you can sell in game items outside of the game it should be considered gambling (demanding of the game company to get a gambling licence and putting even more warnings on games).
However, It doesn't look as they seek to ban this kind of 'marketing'.
He's not a happy bunny.
It has to be said - asking people for real money for "random" shit is a pretty poor showing.
I spent "in game" currency on a couple of loot crates yesterday and was pissed off that I had Victory Poses and duplicate cards!! And that wasn't real money!
Well, finished the campaign last night for a total of 6 hours of game time......overall I don't think there was anything fabulous about it, but I will say I did enjoy playing it which was the most important thing. It seems if your a Star Wars fan its well worth it, others may not think so much. If the only thing you play is single player, some may question the value of $60 for it, but hard to judge until we see all the additional content that may come. If your into multiplayer and you get over all the loot stuff (and/or EA continues to modify it), definitely seems like it would be worth it. At some point I likely will dabble in it, even if I completely suck could still be fun running around the Star Wars universe.
For me, no regrets although I do wish it was longer and far less linear....very story driven but a decent although predictable story.
Its my only second game that I have completed a full campaign, with the first being the Sniper series....
My daughter completed the game in about the same time and her exact words were "Is that it? Finished? You don't get alot for your money, do you?"
Can't argue with that.
I've restarted the campaign - I got to a point and then decided to let my daughter play it. I'm very much enjoying it, but agree with AJ that the "turn" seemed very quick and rushed. Overall, enjoying it though.
The game looks amazing and has very much captured the Star Wars universe.
My daughter is enjoying playing the online stuff...especially the space battles.
I'm as big a Star Wars fan as you'll find, however, after reading this thread and watching Joe's review, EA can eat a dick.
Quote from: acctingman on November 26, 2017, 12:47:26 PM
I'm as big a Star Wars fan as you'll find, however, after reading this thread and watching Joe's review, EA can eat a dick.
ok
;D
Quote from: acctingman on November 26, 2017, 12:47:26 PM
I'm as big a Star Wars fan as you'll find, however, after reading this thread and watching Joe's review, EA can eat a dick.
Well this thread petered out. :D
Quote from: MC on November 26, 2017, 10:40:11 PM
Well this thread petered out. :D
Seems a bit limp doesn't it? Doesn't have the thrust it used to.
Maybe when there's new news from EA it'll rise to the occasion.
As for me, I'm going to keep pushing through. After enough friction, something's bound to come out eventually.
<takei>
Oh my...
<takei>
Well, in the afterglow of Thanksgiving, EA gave one or two flaccid responses today.
They acknowledge there's an issue with the rubber banding and constant jerking, and they're going to rub that out in the future.
As to the progression system? They did mention it was being reevaluated. Hopefully they'll get more rigid in their response soon and we'll have an acceptable climax to the situation.
Is anyone else having a problem loading Battlefront II today?
Everytime I fire it up, Origins hangs - seems there's a patch out for Battlefront II - but I can't get it because Origins stops responding. When it does, my mouse is sluggish as hell even though there's only 4GB of 8GB being used on the PC and all 4 cores are showing no more than 1 or 2% usage.
Damn - game will not start. It seems it's the update. I've uninstalled and reinstalled Origin. Because Origin was set to auto update my games (and I suspected it was the update), when I reinstalled Origin I set the auto update to false.
So now Origin loads and I can play Titanfall 2 (which is an awesome game - have I ever said that?) but if I click on Battlefront II, it starts to download the update, then Origin comes up with the standard stopped responding message.
I wonder if uninstalling Battlefront II will resolve it...? I might wait until tomorrow as I'm not in a hurry to play it at the moment anyway.
I can't find anything on the internet about it either.
I played (grinded ;) ) today short of an hour between 2pm -3 pm without problems
IIRC the patch came out yesterday and enforced to have the latest Nvidia graphics driver to start up the game, and i checked there was new one released and so installed that new driver yesterday too.
-edit-
i just fired it up for a test and was able to reach the home screen with my stats and are connected ...but to tired to brawl in the universe now.
Thanks MG
Don't know what the problem is. I wonder if the servers getting hammered with all the US coming on board?
Quote from: JudgeDredd on December 01, 2017, 05:09:52 PM
Thanks MG
Don't know what the problem is. I wonder if the servers getting hammered with all the US coming on board?
Americans ruin everything for everybody... :cowboy:
I've noticed lag is down a LOT from the Thanksgiving weekend.
This game will not launch now. I thought it might be down to busy servers but it's 7am here and I'm getting the same issue as yesterday.
Launch BFII
Origin shows a "Preparing" progress bar that starts moving, eventually stops and then "Origin has stopped responding" and mouse cursor moves like it's being moved through treacle.
I can't seem to find anywhere to manually download and install the BFII patch - which I suspect isn't an option anyway - which isn't helped by there being another game called Battlefront II from 2005 which is popping up on Google.
I guess it's an uninstall then. It's not working anyway so what I have I got to lose.
******* EA. :knuppel2:
Verifying game files first...
Update
All sorted. I have no idea what happened but basically because Origin was set to auto update my games and it couldn't update BFII for some reason, it just kept hanging. In the end I had to uninstall and reinstall Origin, remembering to untick the auto update option. This allowed me to at least load Origin. The game still wouldn't launch so it was a patch issue. I've just ran a repair on the game (something I couldn't do whilst Origin was in auto-update mode) and hey presto - it runs.
I'll be leaving off the Auto-update so I can get back to that repair option in future.
how about disk space ?
a) the HDD drive with the directory that has Origin (where it will probably download the patch and unpack)
b) the HDD drive where battlefront is installed (that can differ from the Origin place)
Quote from: MikeGER on December 02, 2017, 02:53:24 AM
how about disk space ?
a) the HDD drive with the directory that has Origin (where it will probably download the patch and unpack)
b) the HDD drive where battlefront is installed (that can differ from the Origin place)
See above MG - thanks though for sticking yer heed in
Disk space was fine. I did all the checks I could on all the usual suspects. Game files got corrupted somehow.
Great you can play again :D
see you in Mos Eisley ^-^
lol - that's definitely where you and I would meet MikeGer.
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You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy
:2funny:
...for those on the fence
there was an update
now the daily box (you get for just log-in) now seems to contains a basic card, 15 parts, and 75 credits instead of just 5 parts and a few credits (a bit randomized i guess) before. a basic card needs 40 parts to build
also the 'by the minutes' paying in credits for just being on a MP map has increased and the bonus for winning a match and high position in the leaderboard got added. (with my geriatric skills/performance in FPS its about 100 credits more then before in a generic long match when my side has won)
Also i found out wile playing , some of the cards that add a function like a special grenade, canon or idem work in the basic version as good as in the legendary version. it often just shorten the respawn time of that item not boosting it strength itself.
well there are items where it increased the blast radius from let say 4 to 5 in babysteps
but depending on the tactical situation and (adjusted ) playstyle it doesn't matter so much if you have to wait 32 seconds or 22 to get a grenade to throw again ...just stay longer in cover.
what i wish for would be more personal slots for the soldier classes like a general trooper-template 1 to 8 that i could kit-out and doesn't have to change cards and so abilities on the fly between the respawns.
lol - that is pretty accurate. I fell in love with the game - it is a thing of beauty - but the story is ridiculously fast in transition and really doesn't make a lot of sense. Almost like DC got a hold of the script and went "Hold on - we can shorten this shit".
Last Jedi DLC is out today.
First Order won the live event, as I expected.
Battle of Crait is very interesting. Those AT-M6's are nuts.
First impression is that Finn is WAY better than Phasma.
Going to crack open the second half of the campaign tonight.
https://kotaku.com/kylo-rens-snl-gag-is-now-a-battlefront-ii-mod-1821753016
https://twitter.com/JessicaChobot/status/958787278465200128
Quote from: mirth on January 31, 2018, 02:53:07 PM
https://twitter.com/JessicaChobot/status/958787278465200128
My work blocks twitter. What is this?
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on January 31, 2018, 02:56:47 PM
Quote from: mirth on January 31, 2018, 02:53:07 PM
https://twitter.com/JessicaChobot/status/958787278465200128
My work blocks twitter. What is this?
The Return of Loot Boxes.
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/star-wars-battlefront-2-underperforms-microtransac/1100-6456447/
So glad I never bought this game.
I'll buy it eventually...at a steep discount.
Quote from: mirth on January 31, 2018, 02:59:12 PM
The Return of Loot Boxes.
They never went away. They're still how the progression system works, you just can't buy them with real money.
DICE is somehow revamping the progression ahead of the return of the microtransactions. I'm not sure exactly what that means for the loot box system, or if it's even going to continue to exist at all. The game will be a lot better off without them, especially for new players. I just hope they don't go back to throwing up time bottlenecks that can be bypassed only with money.
Regardless, the game itself is still solid, I certainly don't regret getting it, and although progression is slow and grindy, at this point it really doesn't effect much of what I do in the game. I've unlocked all the weapons, and upgraded every ability I use regularly to maximum, and never had to pay a red cent over the sticker price for the game.
^This O0
Quote from: SirAndrewD on January 31, 2018, 05:12:11 PM
Quote from: mirth on January 31, 2018, 02:59:12 PM
The Return of Loot Boxes.
They never went away. They're still how the progression system works, you just can't buy them with real money.
I know, but it made a better sound bite than "The Return of Microtransactions" :P
Quote from: mirth on February 02, 2018, 10:36:17 AM
I know, but it made a better sound bite than "The Return of Microtransactions" :P
I don't know. I think that'd make a good band name.
Quote from: SirAndrewD on February 02, 2018, 03:07:50 PM
Quote from: mirth on February 02, 2018, 10:36:17 AM
I know, but it made a better sound bite than "The Return of Microtransactions" :P
I don't know. I think that'd make a good band name.
Sir AndrewD & The Grogsters would make a good band name.
Quote from: mirth on February 02, 2018, 03:25:58 PM
Sir AndrewD & The Grogsters would make a good band name.
Too bad I can only play chopsticks on a pinao and my singing sounds like a Water Buffalo being tortured.
I doubt you lot are much better.
But hey, you never know. Money for nothing and chicks for free and all that.
I sound like Barry White.
Quote from: SirAndrewD on February 02, 2018, 03:30:54 PM
Quote from: mirth on February 02, 2018, 03:25:58 PM
Sir AndrewD & The Grogsters would make a good band name.
Too bad I can only play chopsticks on a pinao and my singing sounds like a Water Buffalo being tortured.
I doubt you lot are much better.
But hey, you never know. Money for nothing and chicks for free and all that.
They've updated that song for microtransactions.
I never denied that.
And I love you because of that.
Hugs?
You know you want it.
At least you're honest about it.
Yep, life's too short to live without hugs.
^Damn straight!
Hugs or Uggs?
NOT Uggs
Just checking
Can never be too careful.
I caved to the demands of my 9 year old son and bought Battlefront II for Xbox One. Undeniably, it is a beautiful game. He's currently working his way through the story mode, which I expect he'll have done before he leaves for his mother's this afternoon.
Then it will be my turn ;)
You did it for the children. Same reason I went to see Black Panther with my kids.
I saw Black Panther this weekend with my kids.
Is Steelie your Dad?
I wish.
I did too and it came true.
I'll keep wishing then!
had bought Battlefront II for my inner child so ;)
This is on a 60% off sale on the Origin website, so I'm actually considering it.
How is the Singleplayer/Offline aspect of the game these days?
According to Origin, you can play the game entirely with bots, and still get progression, yet according to some googling, you only get 1 tiny game mode (Arcade), with a few maps,
small scale battles and no vehicles of any kind for the bots mode.
(And no mixing real players and bots)
Quote from: Tpek on March 23, 2018, 01:50:40 PM
How is the Singleplayer/Offline aspect of the game these days?
According to Origin, you can play the game entirely with bots, and still get progression, yet according to some googling, you only get 1 tiny game mode (Arcade), with a few maps,
small scale battles and no vehicles of any kind for the bots mode.
(And no mixing real players and bots)
There's no progression from Single Player at all, and the mode is very limited. You can get 1500 credits a day playing Arcade and sometimes there are daily challenges that are arcade based, but it's really just a practice mode.
Good news is that the loot boxes are gone as of this past Tuesday. All progression is now based on playing classes in mutliplayer. Loot boxes only will have cosmetic items in them when they return. The game now functions as it should've at launch and is no longer saddled with the arbitrary and random element that was its biggest downside.
So, if anyone was on the fence because of the progression and loot system, now would be a good time to give it a go.
I'll skip this one then.
I hate being forced to play MP with random idiots from the Internet.
I really miss the days of the old Battlefield and Battlefront games. :(
I'm afraid that AAA single player Star Wars games are dead as long as EA is holding the reigns of the franchise. We need look no farther than what was done to Visceral Games for evidence of that.
I got enjoyment simply out of the single player portion of the game, never even tried multiplayer. Sure it is rather short and wasn't too hard, but I had a good enough time with it....although certainly wished I would have picked it up a little cheaper just for SP.
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on March 23, 2018, 03:51:36 PM
I got enjoyment simply out of the single player portion of the game, never even tried multiplayer. Sure it is rather short and wasn't too hard, but I had a good enough time with it....although certainly wished I would have picked it up a little cheaper just for SP.
DICE's partner on Battlefront 2, Motive, has said that they're adding more single player content to the arcade mode in the future. So it's possible there will be more value to it in the near future.
The Campaign while short is also kind of fun too. The story's better than the gameplay, but it was a lot better than I expected.
I guess it's a matter of taste. I like MP and found little value in the Arcade, but a lot in the MP side. Still, that's just me. I like simple pleasures like butter in my as....er.....wait.
Yub Nub!
https://www.polygon.com/2018/4/13/17231722/star-wars-battlefront-2-ewok-battle-mode
Quote from: mirth on April 13, 2018, 11:13:15 AM
Yub Nub!
https://www.polygon.com/2018/4/13/17231722/star-wars-battlefront-2-ewok-battle-mode
F'ing Ewoks.
Quote from: SirAndrewD on April 13, 2018, 02:11:37 PM
Quote from: mirth on April 13, 2018, 11:13:15 AM
Yub Nub!
https://www.polygon.com/2018/4/13/17231722/star-wars-battlefront-2-ewok-battle-mode
F'ing Ewoks.
They defeated an entire legion of the Empire's best troops.
^Don't remind me. :'(
Won't lie: the mode in SWBF2 (or was it #1) where you could hunt Ewoks or Gungans was the best. Shooting those floppy-eared Gungan cocksuckers always put a smile on my face.
Yeah, I'm actually really down with it. It's something creative being added to the game.
Still...Ewoks...
And it's back on a 60% off sale, due to the May-4th day that's due soon.
soooooooo tempted at that price. Has to be worth it for the SP aspect at least
And now it's 67% off :P
I'm actually probably going to get it now that I've heard rumors about the devs adding new offline/bots modes.
Necro'ing.....
Anyone still play this? Is it worth it for single player?
Actually, for $13 it can't be that bad :bd:
Great production values. Single player campaign is very short and the story is pretty lame but it looks pretty. MP is about what you'd expect. Asshats, hackers, and Uber-skilled seal clubbers all conspiring to ruin your gameplay experience unless you're really into respawning.
Hmmm....maybe I'll save my $13
Thanks SDR
Eh, I don't consider my FPS skills elite by any means, but I more than hold my own in Battlerfont 2 MP.
There are some big balance issues however, and DICE has been slow to fix them.
I still find the game plenty of fun. Hackers are a thing on PC, but they're not in every game. The Starfighter portion of the game is VERY good, fun and the new Hero Starfighter mode adds more flavor.
I still think it's a good game. I go back to it regularly and have fun with it. Sure, there's the occasional match that's just absurd, but heading back to the lobby yeields better results a lot of the time.
Blast Mode and Ewok Hunt are also good.
Still, all my opinion. If you don't like MP games you have no reason to look into Battlefront. If you like them casually, it can be fun. The Starfighter mode is decent enough that it can be all you play and get good value out of it.
Depends on your background. I was an avid MP flight-simmer (and still fly occasionally) so the fact that you cannot use a joystick and throttle for starfighters is a real sore point with me. Mouse and keyboard is no way to fly.
Quote from: acctingman on August 16, 2018, 04:59:03 PM
Hmmm....maybe I'll save my $13
Thanks SDR
In my opinion, the single story campaign is worth $13......in fact, no regrets paying full price and I don't even play multiplayer.
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on August 16, 2018, 05:42:01 PM
Depends on your background. I was an avid MP flight-simmer (and still fly occasionally) so the fact that you cannot use a joystick and throttle for starfighters is a real sore point with me. Mouse and keyboard is no way to fly.
Oh, I get you there. I've got an X-52pro with rudder pedals, track IR and a few other bells and whistles. I completely agree that the lack of stick support in Battlefront is a travesty.
I'd enhance the fun by a lot if it had it. I find it enjoyable enough as is though. I may be a little easy to please.