anyone know anything about this ?
http://shop.decisiongames.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=2108
Talk about sparse - info wise ...
Funny, I was just looking at this the other day and was wondering the same
Quote from: Zulu1966 on November 22, 2016, 04:53:16 AM
anyone know anything about this ?
http://shop.decisiongames.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=2108
Talk about sparse - info wise ...
By the look, it is based off the solitaire wargame
RAF (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/40209/raf-battle-britain-1940).
Specifically one side of the newer edition: running the British defenses (Lion).
I played the tabletop version of Lion in
RAF. Definitely enjoyed it as a tabletop game. Even though the interceptions started getting rather repetitive near the end, it was fun enough to play it to the end. I thought the Lion side was a bit easy to win, so I need to go play from the German side sometime.
As far as a computer game version would go, I don't know if it would translate well. While I enjoyed the physical game, I would think a digital version would get dull rather quickly.
As far as solitaire-to-PC games of this sort go, I would think that stuff like D-Day At Tarawa (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/67600/d-day-tarawa) would be a bit more interesting on PC. At least it wouldn't be as repetitive as the air raids in RAF. I think they have, or are creating, a PC version of one of the D-Day games too.
Both RAF and the D-Day series were created by Butterfield, and use a somewhat similar card system to run the automated opponent. Even though the map play is different.
Note: my tabletop version of RAF had the worst die-cutting of the counters I've ever seen. It was difficult getting all of the counters separated without tearing some faces off, so I had to get my X-acto knife and cut them all out of the counter sheets. The excessive corner bush also required trimming even more than usual, of course. From what I understand, at least some of these newer games from DG have this poor cut issue.
Thanks Nef. I think you are correct - though the publicity around their computer games is non existent.
Anyhows - its quite cheap so ordered. will see what its like.
Let us know how it goes..
Quote from: Zulu1966 on November 22, 2016, 05:35:25 AM
Thanks Nef. I think you are correct - though the publicity around their computer games is non existent.
Anyhows - its quite cheap so ordered. will see what its like.
Is it digital download or disk (as there is a disk shown in the page, I assume that?)
If it's DD, I'd punt for it - give it a go.
I am a HUGE fan of the boardgame, though I've only played it once (as with all things, fav or otherwise, shiny new sometimes puts the game away - but I always want to pull it out...it takes some space mind)...but it was excellent. As with Nefaro, I only played one side (and I don't recall if it was the British or German side I played) but I thoroughly enjoyed it. The rules were very easy to pick up.
Would it translate well? I don't know but for $20 I would be willing to try it. I'm not paying postage though, so if it's not DD, then it's not on my PC.
*EDIT*I played the German side which was great fun
http://grogheads.com/forums/index.php?topic=8282.msg206498#msg206498
Quote from: Zulu1966 on November 22, 2016, 04:53:16 AM
anyone know anything about this ?
http://shop.decisiongames.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=2108
i do ;)
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi66.tinypic.com%2Fo7n1v7.jpg&hash=39bfbe7a5cd764b7f1a1e0dc16fd11b5fb68cfac)
was in the mail last Saturday :-) (custom took its time forever)
hadn't had much time with it yet but what i saw so far was good and i really like it O0
...its very close to the board games without the hassle and so you can play turns very fast.
There is a text log-file with dice roles and cards drawn and also shows the active card in the display so you could even replay/check the steps by hand on your board if you like
here is a review over at BGG which is pretty much on point (and had made me order the game)
https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1590067/quick-review-raflion-pc
i hope the programmer Michael Olsen makes the Eagle version too real fast.
Quote from: JudgeDredd on November 22, 2016, 05:54:56 AM
Quote from: Zulu1966 on November 22, 2016, 05:35:25 AM
Thanks Nef. I think you are correct - though the publicity around their computer games is non existent.
Anyhows - its quite cheap so ordered. will see what its like.
Is it digital download or disk (as there is a disk shown in the page, I assume that?)
If it's DD, I'd punt for it - give it a go.
I am a HUGE fan of the boardgame, though I've only played it once (as with all things, fav or otherwise, shiny new sometimes puts the game away - but I always want to pull it out...it takes some space mind)...but it was excellent. As with Nefaro, I only played one side (and I don't recall if it was the British or German side I played) but I thoroughly enjoyed it. The rules were very easy to pick up.
Would it translate well? I don't know but for $20 I would be willing to try it. I'm not paying postage though, so if it's not DD, then it's not on my PC.
Hi Judge - think you are uk ?
Same here - about 9 dollars postage - so all in cam out about £25 - (Ordered D-Day at Tarawa earlier and it arrived surprisingly quickly. about five days from order. which aint bad from the states for 8 pounds. Disc only - no DD. Customs werent interested in mine for whatever reason. But then again its UK customs.)
Quote from: JudgeDredd on November 22, 2016, 05:54:56 AM
Quote from: Zulu1966 on November 22, 2016, 05:35:25 AM
Thanks Nef. I think you are correct - though the publicity around their computer games is non existent.
Anyhows - its quite cheap so ordered. will see what its like.
Is it digital download or disk (as there is a disk shown in the page, I assume that?)
*EDIT*
I played the German side which was great fun
http://grogheads.com/forums/index.php?topic=8282.msg206498#msg206498
its physical CD order only atm,
but if you chose the cheepest shipping service offered at Decision Games its IMHO bearable
it can take quits some time so depending on how long its sit in custom offices
(D-Day at Tarwar which i had also ordered later only took a week or so)
I'd have bought quite a few of their PC games if they just sold downloads. I really don't understand the decision to stick with physical copies on a platform that has moved pretty much entirely to downloads.
Maybe I'll get them eventually, but I'm sure I'm not the only sale they are losing in that I'd probably impulse purchase if I could get it instantly.
I'd quite like the Galactic Empire game as I have the boardgame of that but I'd probably get to play it a little more if on PC.
Rowans Battle of Britain game had a good strategic game reminiscent of RAF the board game, also allowed you to then take control of an individual fighter in a flight sim sub game, little like total war for air battles, good game if I recall correctly.
Quote from: weateallthepies on November 22, 2016, 09:48:23 AM
I'd quite like the Galactic Empire game as I have the boardgame of that but I'd probably get to play it a little more if on PC.
I looked at that too but noticed the requirements were Win95 or NT! I can only imagine what screen resolution it supports.
I have the board game and played the German side a couple of years ago.
A very good game but the system is like nothing I have ever played before. Took a lot of reading and several playthroughs before I felt comfortable with it.
@Zulu and JD
Did you not also get hammered with import tax, as well as the postage? Sometimes the tax can be more painful than the postage.
Quote from: Boggit on November 23, 2016, 02:02:56 PM
@Zulu and JD
Did you not also get hammered with import tax, as well as the postage? Sometimes the tax can be more painful than the postage.
I haven't bought it...yet :dreamer:
Quote from: Boggit on November 23, 2016, 02:02:56 PM
@Zulu and JD
Did you not also get hammered with import tax, as well as the postage? Sometimes the tax can be more painful than the postage.
Quite a few years back I bought
Over Flanders Fields first payware from across the pond and it remains the most I've ever paid for a videogame (in one go). I think about 30% was postage and tax.
Quote from: Boggit on November 23, 2016, 02:02:56 PM
@Zulu and JD
Did you not also get hammered with import tax, as well as the postage? Sometimes the tax can be more painful than the postage.
Not on Tarawa which I got the other day. It seems quite random what they pick up on.
i didn't paid any taxes or custom at all on the two items i ordered separately from Decision Games.
i guess the value was below the EU-threshold. but custom still had to 'inspected' (usually x-ray like at the airport) the envelopes if they don't contain anything expensive or verboten in addition
I still have the original RAF boardgame designed by John Butterfield and published in 1986 by West End Games. Had many a fun night playing it some 30 years ago. Might have to read the rules and play it again for old times sake.
Edit - My first post here? Been lurking for years. :)
Quote from: Geezer on November 24, 2016, 10:13:51 AM
I still have the original RAF boardgame designed by John Butterfield and published in 1986 by West End Games. Had many a fun night playing it some 30 years ago. Might have to read the rules and play it again for old times sake.
Edit - My first post here? Been lurking for years. :)
Welcome! :)
Quote from: Barthheart on November 24, 2016, 10:38:48 AM
Welcome! :)
Thanks. Some of you know me as elmo3 from the Matrix forums or Lee Elmendorf from The Wargamer forums.
I remember you elmo3.
Welcome geezer O0
Hi people,
I just stumbled upon this thread, and being the guy who created the software I thought I would drop by.
To tell the truth I do not normally venture too far away from boardgamegeek, but I will try to check this thread from time to time.
It seems like the questions about the product has been answered by now. It is basically a faithful recreation of the boardgame, "Lion" part only (so far, see below).
My aim was to facilitate playing the boardgame in a faster manner, allowing the user to spend his/her time on making important gameplay decisions rather than controlling the AI.
Do not get me wrong, controlling the AI is not necesarily a "bad" thing, but sometimes you just want to play a faster game, maybe to try out some strategy.
Yes, it is shipped as a CD-ROM. For what reason I honestly do not know. I am not involved in those decisions.
Quote from: MikeGER on November 22, 2016, 05:55:25 AMi hope the programmer Michael Olsen makes the Eagle version too real fast.
We are right now looking for beta testers of the Eagle version. I believe you can find an email address to contact here: https://decisiongames.com/wpsite/whats-new/
Currently the introductory scenario can be played, and the other scenarios should be added soon(-ish).
Please be aware that Eagle requires a larger screen than Lion. This is because where in Lion it made sense to move pieces on a digital version of the map, in Eagle you would be moving from one end of the map to the other a lot of the time. If you did not zoom in you could not see what you were doing, and if you did zoom in you could not access both ends of the map.
Therefore I opted to use more dialogs, but they tend to obscure the map beneath them (the map beneath is used as a reference for which areas to bomb etc.).
In any case, I wish you all good gaming, boardgame or pc-version.
I'm not that interested in the Lion version but I'll be a first-day buyer of the Eagle version. As I posted previously, I played the board game version a couple of years ago and enjoyed it -- except that I found the system very challenging. I expect the computer version will alleviate that issue.